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joshnes:
While I believe a person cannot be saved twice, once you are saved, you are saved. But people may fall because they don't understand that God saves you, you work out your salvation through The Holy Spirit in you (Phil 2:12-13). To think the Holy Spirit will work sin in you, bro that's blasphemy. If you sin, you should be convicted, that's why you have the Spirit of God. Sin as a born again child of God should not be tolerated (1 John 3:9 ; 1:9; 2:1). It is the trivializing of sin that has brought about some of these devilish doctrines. It is not a tragedy to sin, it is more of a tragedy not to confess AND FORSAKE that sin. Besides, God has given us grace to live above sin, so anytime one feels like a sin is dominating you, run to the Throne of Grace and apply for more grace (Heb 4: 14-16). Don't let any man decieve you, don't give any place to the devil, attack that sin on time, God is rich in mercy. People who backslide do not do so in one day, gradual toleration of sin eventually leads to a free fall.

I totally agree with you..

Just like Cancer is the disease of the flesh, Sin is the disease of the Spirit.
Cancer begins with attacking a cell in the body and if that Cell is not discovered, it spreads and eventually kills the entire body, so also Sin. It begins with a thought, Lust, and then graduates to an act, and as you said, if one doesn't run to the throne of Grace to remove it, it sticks and spreads and if God doesn't intervene, a total fall off can happen.

May the Lord help us to the end. Amen.

dalaman:
You claimed that man is made in the image and likeness of God and I asked you this:

He didn't need to tell me personally before i believe Him. The Bible told me so and reading the accounts and following events up till today, a whole lot falls into place, so i believe Him.

He also told me about you and here you are, for this, i believe Him more.

Hmmm. Agents of satan. Na wao.


Hooefullandlord, you hate Christians this much? I know mom is a Christian, if she was in Church on sunday and a man walks into her Church and opens fire, and you are called to identify her body, this will be your reaction? Or is it because it happened in far away Texas?

The way some of you are going about this, it won't be long, atheists in Nigeria will begin killing Christians too, and since Nigeria has no law to apprehend criminals, ours will be worst.

Let it be known that, when an atheist walks into a Church and kills people, our loves ones shall be amongst the dead.

dalaman:
I've asked you many questions and you've refused to answer any. My use of other religions is to show you that any body can also make empty claims, after all your religion isn't the one that is good at making empty claims other religions do that as well.

Why should I be scared of fiction? If I were scared of hell I'll be a believer.

You asked me questions? Pls redirect me to them.

Babalawos:
You should master "seeing lights and colours in darkness, learn how to the occult meaning of these lights and colours"

You should give your life to Christ, the Light of the world.

ArchangeLucifer:
Well, Islam is not a true religion.

It is a people's tradition/way of life that was wrongly morphed into a religion.

I'm yet to understand how wearing Burka changes who you are in spirit seeing as religion is of the heart and not the flesh.

They wear that to keep men from lusting after them, but no man on earth is as preoccupied by sex like a muslim.

A muslim man thinks about nothing aside from sex. From today begin to observe, you can hardly see any muslim lady without either pregnancy or carrying a baby. Sex is key in islam, yet they cover up.

plainbibletruth:
Notice carefully what Jesus says and what He doesn't say. Jesus clearly says that they will be dressed in white and He will not erase the believer's name, and will acknowledge the same before the Father and his angels. Jesus never says He will erase a believer's name.

Let's first establish the fact that He is talking to believers, not unbelievers. Yes, He is definitely talking to those who have heard His teachings and had believed and got saved by it.

Now let's look at what He is saying: 'The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life'.
Anybody who Remains consistent, faithful, abiding, enduring, committed, victorious through persecution upholding his name till end [death], He the Master, shall dress them in white and will not blot out his name from the book of life.


Here is what He is not saying. 'Anyone who falls off after hearing, believing, and accepting the Word of eternal life, but as a result of persecution, peril, hunger, sickness, the fear of death etc, will have his name blotted out of the Book of Life.


This here is the point i'm trying to make. BLOTTING OUT OF NAMES from THE BOOK OF LIFE.

Why will the Master talk about 'not blotting names from the book of life' if we remain faithful till the end?, what this means is that, the ones who are not victorious, gets their names blotted out.

Can't you see there's a condition there? The condition is IF a believer will endure to the end which is death, he shall be dressed in white, but what if he doesn't, will he still dressed in white becos he had previously believed?

OUR NAMES ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE AWAITING WHEN WE GET SAVED OR NOT. As we get saved and receive his new life in Christ, our names goes into the book.

Now, here is what needs wisdom to unravel: If once our names enters the Book of life, they remain there even when we return to sin, the Master wouldn't mention BLOTTING in the first place.

plainbibletruth:
The only solid conclusion we can draw from Revelation 3:5 is that those who overcome[/] [b]will not have their names removed from the book of life and Christ will declare those same names before God and His angels. To conclude anything else – especially to conclude the exact opposite -- is go beyond what the text states into the arena of error and confusion

But what about those who will not overcome? Are you saying everyone who gets saved will endure to the end and overcome? Why then are we warned not draw back? The Lord doesn't take pleasure in those who draw back. What if we draw back? Will our names remain in the Book?

Do you know that if once we get saved and have our names written into the Book of Life, nothing can erase it, they won't be a word like 'Backsliding' in the Bible?

For the word 'backsliding' to have it's way into scriptures tells us that, some will backslide.

Why will the Master even mention the word 'Erase' if it's automatic that once names enter the Book of Life, that's it? Think about it.

dalaman:
I only gave you an example how you turned that to crying remains tour business.

My point is, when you are in a discussion with a Christian about YHWH, maintain your stance as an atheist, running around gathering other gods to make your point makes you look unserious.


And, give the hellfire scare a rest if you are not afraid of it.

Babalawos:
Aura has nothing to do with satanism and satanist

Tell me something i don't know pls.

ArchangeLucifer:
Oh, is he? I never knew. I'm relatively new to Nairaland.

By the way, that combination is somehow oh. Atheist + muslim cleric.

Anyway, I'm not against his ideologies. I just asked so I can know exactly what we are debating about - no blurred lines.

Well, he claims to be an atheist but he is very sympathetic to the Muslims. He'll come for you if you say anything against islam. He has a special section for them where you can't go in except you swear an oath.

Everyone protects the Muslims these days. It's their time to flourish.

spongeisback:
If you've enough space in your brain. Read it. Don't bother me again.

Oh i read it, but i'm sure you didn't.

I said rest in peace.

spongeisback:
Don't you have sense? I'm not "pained" you pay tithe I don't give a FUÇK what you do with your money you can stick it in the place where the sun doesn't shine. I just corrected your lie. You said this and I corrected you,you don't come online and give false information. Why can't you understand that?

Okay fine, even if the Jews don't pay Tithe, we Christians pay Tithe to Christ our eternal High priest. So rest in peace.

spongeisback:
Don't you have sense? I'm not "pained" you pay tithe I don't give a FUÇK what you do with your money you can stick it in the place where the sun doesn't shine. I just corrected your lie. You said this and I corrected you,you don't come online and give false information. Why can't you understand that?

Does the link you posted said Jews don't pay Tithe?

ArchangeLucifer:
So are you saying Jesus was not the true Son of God?

Wow. You are talking to Seu.n tje atheist and Muslim cleric at the same time. Fact is, he lies.

spongeisback:
More emotional outburst. No it's not my money I'd rather give my money to the orphanage I support than give it to scam artists like you. You know follow the REAL JEWISH way of tithing not your revised Christianity version.

Why then are you pained that i'm paying tithe?

Proudgorgeousga:
I think god possibly exists, the problem is which god

It won't be long now, you shall find out. Just breath some more.

Why is Hopefullandlord acting like he hasn't seen my post?

spongeisback:
Why're you not smart? Come on I've given you several chances to redeem yourself still you're just ranting like a crazed cow. Since I don't believe in god is it not obvious I don't believe in satan? Why're you so worried about satan? Do you love him? Are you scared of him? Why can't you converse without bringing him up? Why're you Christians so bothered about satan even to the point of knowing he collects dues?! My advice stop the satan obsession, work on yourself and stop LYING for your god.

You don't believe God, yet won't let me be, why?

I asked you, is it your money we pay tithe with?

spongeisback:
Poking nose in your business? Dude you gave someone a wrong information and I corrected you. Your money? How much do you've if I may ask? Please carry your madness to the back of the room. So much venom about nothing.

See? You go into business you nothing about. Tithing is not in volume geerit?

Just allow Christians will you? You satanists do as you pls, we don't bother you, but when we do our business you won't pass on.

In your sectret societies, you pay huge dues, but just a 10% of our own income is giving you people gas. Na waoo.

spongeisback:
If you're not too hasty to quote me you would see the info I posted. Btw I love that name Satan.

If you are not poking your nose into my business you'd see i don't borrow money from you to pay Tithe.

Why are you so pained?

Mind your satanic business.

mosupo:
A Muslim Salafist stated that daughters born out of wedlock can be married by the father since such daughter is born out of wedlock and regarded as illegitimate. He further opined that the father can even make love to such child as it was not against sharia. But is this true?Let Muslims in the house elucidate our understanding please. See Dailytimes today for source.

Islam is a religion where laws are added by individuals as time prohresses and later they become Allah's laws. All you find in the koran were added as tume went on.

Muslims loving sex crazily may approve of this and in future, you' d see this as a fatwa.

spongeisback:
Can you stop lying please? The world is not as complex as it used to be and information can be gotten anywhere and anytime. Jews don't tithe anymore since the destruction of the temple. Tithe is fraud! They flourish because of hardwork not tithes. Stop spreading false news.

You call me a lair without presenting any contrary info to counter me. If the Jews do not Tithe anymore present info to that effect.

Is it your money i'm tithing? Why is it paining you so much that i'm paying tithe with my money?

I have not complained about the dues you pay in your occult group, but you won't let me be.

Satan, get behind me.

dalaman:
Fiction and mythology scares you. It doesnt scare me. If am scared of hell I'll be a believer.

Hell remains a fictional place.

Why then do you cry about it?

Sarassin:
who's been naughty then !
Opinionated is good, maybe some of the personal stuff was not that clever. But above all else just be yourself and stand up for what you believe in.

Thank you very much.

Sarassin:
I know, glad to see @bolded. Ahem ....but if we have the same father it ain’t gonna work is it? Much more fun this way don’t you think eh Cara Mia? So why the moniker change? Is this a paradigm change? we liked you just the way you were.

Got banned

Hmmmmm @ bolded. I'll hold my peace for the sake of some bitter souls here.

Wait!, you like me tough and opinionted? I thought you disapprove.

dalaman:
So you ever lose sleep when a muslim tells you that you'll burn in hell for not accepting the Islamic stories? I bet you don't at all. That's exactly how I feel when any religious person threatens me with hell. I just use the other religious claim of hell to show them how nonsensical their assertions are.

Yes you do. You loose sleep a lot. If you ask me, you are figjting Insomia as a result.

When a Muslim tells me i'd go to Allah's hellfire, this is what i ask him, what will be the basis for allah sending me to his hellfire?

He tells me, allah requires that my Good Deeds should out weigh my bad Deeds.

That means allah will not have anything to hold against me because my faith teaches that all sins takes me to hellfire, and i must cleanse them all up which i have by taking up the righteousness which is in Christ. When i shall stand before Allah, the righteousness of Christ in me shall blind allah. With this i luagh and sleep on.

You never hear me banter Muslims on this, never.


But, you! Lolzzzzzz, you talk about hellfire more than me who believes in it.

If you laugh over hellfire, you won't be talking about it as often as you do. It scares the hit shi.t outa you

dalaman:
It remains your baseless and idiotic opinion.

Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Look in the mirror.

dalaman:
Yes one of the effects of intentional states of consciousness is the ability to use tools. Many animals are able to use tools. I guess they are also made in the image and likeness of your God.

Use tools to do what? Pls show a video of these animals in their natural wild habitat using tools to affect their environment.


Pls which animal has been able to mentally repesent themselves?

jimmyjenseng:
Yup! Now answer the question.

Answer which question?

Pls mention an animal which has been able to Mentality and intentionally represented itself by taking concious and rational actions which positively or adveraely affected it's immidiate environment.

Lolzzzzzzzzzz, this guy.

ShySteady:
Ok... In the past/recent weeks, we have read on different forums why paying tithes is important. It has become so talked about that there was a report of some Church members walking out on a popular preacher because he was preaching on the subject of tithing.

So many Nairalanders have also talked for or against it.

My question is: why so much emphasis on tithing but nobody seems to be talking about offerings?

1. Is tithe better or more acceptable than offering?

2. God accepted Abel's offering but rejected Cain's?

Can anyone here enlighten us, please?

The reason is, Tirhing is God's command and offering is willingly.

Satan fights everything God commands us to do.

Listen, anything you see satan fighting, know there's more to it.

Kingdom Prosperity answers only to these mysteries, satan knows, but dumb Christians refuse to read their Book but allow satan use them against themselves.

Satan wants Christians wrecthed and hungry. He wants to dominate the arena financially, hence fights the avenue througb which Children of God can breakthrough, and we let him.


Look at the Jews, everywhere they go they lead in all things. Have you found out their secrets?

They carry this ordiance with them everywhere and pass it down to their children. The world laugh at them as non conformists, but it doesn't bother them, they follow the insteuctions of YHWH.

For instance. Start selling pure water and let a Jew sell the same pure water down the road. You'll be struggling to pay your rent and eat, and even break even, but the Jew selling the same pure water, will open branches, build houses, buy cars and florish. Have you asked yourself why?

They hold strongly to this ordinaces.

Let them say...

jimmyjenseng:
Animals too have intentional state of consciousness. Would you say YHWH put this in them to enable them be god?

You mean Animals have the capacity to intentionally take actions that will bring activities in their immidiate environment under their control?

Wait, really?