₦airaland Forum

JESHAL007:
@ emmaodet, saw your diary on that married woman cheating on her husband, Jesus, sir, will you advice one to marry like these, let's remember these our generation women are not like the 90's and early 2000's women, even these so-called women are promiscuous, tiktok women are going to skyrocket cheating and divorce, it's sad, i would always say these if you didn't meet your wife as a virgin and she's used to sex before she married you, that spirit of fvcking can't leave her it will enter marriage

Lol....I will say give marriage a chance if you can.

I have this believe that you can only get better in what you do and not what you keep avoiding.
We always get nervous when driving a car for the first time, riding a bicycle /okada/ swimming / football / starting and running a biz / entering ring to box / writing etc and always get better as we do more of it not avoiding it.
SO i am of the opinion that boys should go out and woo/toast ladies more, date more and with time you will get better and know how to filter out the seeds from the chaffs.
When i started toasting ladies, i always forget all the lines i had crammed to tell the girls.
After approaching and saying ''Hello'' every other thing disappers from my head. It was so embarrassing then.
Sometimes, my voice would be shaking while talking or afraid but consistency overtime made me better.
Now, i approach ladies with confidence and can keep conversation for as long as it worth it..... that is a lesson from experience and not shying away from it bro

Kipaji:
I get you. But aren't these kinds of men the ones who procreate the most?

I believe that, for the most part, women know the kind of men who would not be caring fathers. Sure we can make mistakes, we can misjudge people, but more often than not, I would say that the women went in knowing that this person is just not that type of guy.

I'm sure that we all know at least one good-for-nothing bum who has girls chasing him and at least one great guy on paper who has no woman around.

Well the men procreate but currently, there is big awareness among women not to settle down with these ass-holes because they are a pain in the ass.
It is what as lead to the rise of single mothers.
They will rather stay alone with their kids knowing they made mistake banging and birthing for an ass-hole, thereby enjoying themselves with men who have resources than staying put in a surffering marriage.

Gerrard59:
Omo, that post wey you quote shock me o. If na so Kano dey, it means I will have a lot of stories to write.

Nah! We have to start propagating the benefits of vasectomy to our men across all ethnic groups and religions.

The funny thing is that we place more value on Animals than we Humans sef.
In this same country and clime, someone who wants to open a poultry or piggery or fish farm will plan reasonably putting govt factors into consideration.
Someone who can only raise 500 birds won't go and buy 10,000. Someone who can only rear 50 pigs will dare not go and buy 500 pigs.
All knowing they don't have the capacity and the negative effect of not feeding them well or going broke and stuck in the process.
They are aware of the inflation where they buy a bag of feed for 5k today and maybe 5,200 next month.
They know govt is not coming to give them free feeds or fertilizers etc and they plan with all these yet when it comes to Humans, we tend to throw cushion to the wind and just birth them like flies putting the blames on the govt.
If we can plan and treath chickens, pigs, fishes well, why not Humans?

Gerrard59:
For the bold, there is a reason many say the ethnic makeup of the country is a hindrance to its progress. But I won't digress further.

For the rest of your post, thank you as you have done well. Just that from examples across the world, the strongest force against more children is having a high number of educated women. The more educated a society's women are, the lower its fertility rate. The other factor is prosperity - richer countries have fewer children. However, Islam is a potent force even in the face of highly educated women and prosperity. Malaysian Muslims, Singaporean Malays, Saudis, Emiratis etc., all have higher fertility rates than their non-Muslim counterparts or other countries. So even if all Northern Nigerian women are highly educated today and the society is prosperous, they will have more children per woman.

Maybe we should ask ourselves: On average, how many children does a university/polytechnic educated Yoruba Muslim woman have in her lifetime? How many children per woman does an educated Northern Nigerian Muslim woman have in her lifetime?

Thanks for your comment. Yes, an educated female society will correct alot of these errors but then, not just only education but good jobs because without ti, many women would be forced to marry so many ass holes roaming around.
I will say that from my own observation, many Yoruba muslim ladies only give birth to 2 to 3 max kids now in my enviroment.

GeneralDae:
SECNigeria wants Free Trade Zone Companies listed on the Stock Exchange

The newly proposed rules would allow FTZEs to raise public capital, with a minimum N7.5bn paid-up capital, a 3-year track record & full disclosure requirements.

Source: Proshare

This is going to be massive.
Really massive for NGX

LordAdam16:
iran fights a war, china helps
russia fights a war, china helps
nk, belarus, cuba, vz; china is the endless ocean of aid

when china fights in the pacific
any aid from the likes of iran, russia, nk will be puny compared to their needs

admitting it supplies weapons, be it to russia or iran, makes china an active participant in the wars
giving china's foes extra justification to impose more sanctions and punitive measures
all of which detract from their primary objective of getting ready for the pacific war

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that is the explanation from the chinese anyway

i don't exactly buy it
because after this iran war, i do not think a total pacific war is feasible anymore
the us does not have the aptitude, capacity, or tolerance to fight a total war in the pacific

the pentagon has frozen the fatality tally at 13 since week 2 of the iran war
they refused to update it
it is premium delulu to believe they can stomach the hundreds/thousands dead per day in a pacific war

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to put all of this in perspective
china refuses to modernize north korea's air force
since the end of the cold war and especially after china's admission to the wto
china's transfer of heavy weaponry to the only country it has a defense pact has been near non-existent

russia currently does more for north korea than china on pure military terms

so this is a deliberate policy that precedes xi

one area where china is enthusiastic about assisting is in boosting production and evolution of an ally's domestic weapon systems
beyond that, good luck

china sold its hq-9 air defense system to egypt, morocco, azerbaijan, turkmenistan, uzbekistan, and pakistan
but refused to sell/give it to north korea, iran, venezuela, cuba, belarus

sold its hq-22 air defense to serbia and thailand
none to a core axis country

china is not really a conventional military ally to anyone besides north korea and pakistan
both of whom they need to protect their land borders from the hegemony and india

which is why i've said repeatedly that when they fight the pacific war
everyone besides north korea in the axis will fold hands and chew gum
they'll still win the war
but no one is lifting a finger besides platitudes and token deliveries
even pakistan will ghost them
russia might assist with heavy weaponry, but it'll come with conditions/steep price tag

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nothing has emboldened the hegemony to start wars against axis countries
more than china's clear signaling that it will not intervene outside the pacific

-Lord

And this is a fatal error from their side.
If you are the Big Daddy, you duty is to protect your allies from constant harrassment.
It is the reason countries like UK, Germany, France even smaller ones like Estonia are having boldness to talk to Russia and act because their Big Daddy won't allow the Axis to harrass them without not paying an expensive price.
A tree can not make a forest.
Allies are there for a reason. When you get sanctioned, they won't enforce it thereby sustaining your economy, you can easily trade with them or by-pass sanctions through them but when all your allies are gone? you are as good as gone too no matter your economy or strategy.

WriterrNg:
⚡Russia's Medvedev:

Russian Defense Ministry’s statement must be taken literally: the list of European facilities which make drones & other equipment is a list of potential targets for the Russian armed forces.

When strikes become a reality depends on what comes next. Sleep well, European partners!

Imagine the number of countries supporting Ukraine yet still struggling to achieve anything.
They really want to escalate this war and if they do, they may not like the outcome.

WriterrNg:

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Person wey suppose don dey waka barefoot for market dey talk to himself.

obeegee:
Yes yes.

But this is us now trying to make excuses for the government's inaction.

If the govt deals decisively with crime (including kidnapping mentioned above), then these kids wont see it as an option, and would make themselves more useful economically. Yes they make less money roaming around with cows, but they still make a living from it, and when the cows are sold, it adds to the productivity of our economy

There is govt inaction and there is the citizens inaction too.

Agreed, the govt failed us and is that why we should also fail ourselves? at our own end?
Moreover, if we agree the govt is bad, is that not a point we need to factor into our decision making?
I know the govt is bad, won't sponsor or support me yet i still go ahead in birthing more kids that will even cause more problems for me, what do you think about thi? is it proper?
There is no way a govt will deal with crime when the populace are creating more problems. At a point, it will overwhelm the govt which is what we are seeing now.
Govt is not God. The don't have absolute power. They have limitations both in resources and manpower.
No matter how they cub it, if more criminals ar ebeen produced, it will overshadow the govt efforts.
Also, that they can herd cows and make little money from it in diginity doesn't mean it is good enough.
So a man who herd cows all his life and made meagre and then his children continued on that same path because the man never had resources to give them better or they become ma'guards or shoe makers in towns doesn't make the system any better.
With 2 kids and one wife, you are sacrificing your self-comfort for the betterment of the family's future.
Instead of the continues trend, you will start having something like -
My greatgrand father was a farmer/cow hearde/hunter/fisherman but trained his 2 kids (your own grandfathers) who later became teachers who also trained their kids (your immediate parents) who later became doctors/lawyers and now you (current generations) are now pilots/oil and gas workers etc
Do you notice the trend?

obeegee:
Fair point you made.

But i dont think we are the first country in the world with people having many kids. I dont think forcing people to have less kids is the solution. If opportunities are created for all (even through farming), then those MANY kids would be an asset to the country's economy.

Yes, we are not the first country with huge population but most huge population countries face the same issue.

There are 3 major factors that cause poverty - 2 are out of our control while 1 is which is ourselve.
I can control how much politicians will steal, i can't force them to do the roads, schools in my area. I don't even know which account number nigeria's crude oil money is enetring, when they are sharing it or into which account it is going into BUT i can control where i dip my dick, if i am going to release inside that woman, how many times i want to and how many kids i intend to have.
So betwen these 2 options, which one do you think a man should focus on?
I know we humans don't like to be blamed or know that we are part of the problem.
We feel okay pointing accusing fingers at others or govt for our predicament.
There are Natural laws you can beat no matter the argument.
The natural Law of Forces of Demand and Supply
Law of polarity and many more.
SO also is the natural Law of Population.
A family of 4 (man, wive and 2 kids) in Burundi or Somalia despite how poor and terrible they are should do better than a family of 6 or 8 in burundi or somalia.
A family of 4 earning 500k in kaduna will do better than a family of 8 or 10 earning same in kaduna.
A family of 4 in japan, canada, Uk or anywhere is expected to do better than a family of 8 or 10 in those countries.
A man earning 1m per month working for mobil with 2 kids and a wife is expected to do better than a man in the same company earning same salary but with 2 wives and 10 kids.
Nigeria wih 20 million population earning curent revenue, pumping same oil and passing this same budget will be better than a nigeria of 200m people with the same condition -- Nature bro, Nature

Lamasta:
Before the advent of terrorism in the north they have been over breeding and marrying many wives, the terrorism we are facing today is not due to the effect of marrying many wives and giving birth to many children but politicians are the major terrorist we are facing in this country once this evil politicians settle their score terrorism will be defeated

What the current world economy and Nigeria in focus is saying is that the bolded is not sustainable anymore.
That it was in the 50s or 80s doesn't mean it will be in the 20s.
"The only constant thing in life is change, and it sweeps away those who are allergic to it."

obeegee:
Yes it is the fuel.

But not what started it. If insecurity was and is dealt with decisively, these guys would not resort to terrorism.

A country having a big population is not a bad thing. There would always be the poor and rich. Making policies to increase the productivity of the population is the bigger question.

You can't solve a problem when those causing the problems will gladly add more even if you are trying to solve it.
We will always get back to this junction.

Okay, let's look it this way.
Let's assume for a moment the govt is good and doing things right - electricity, good roads, train, hospitals and schools.
What do you think will happen?
The THANK YOU the govt will get from these people is going to even be more wives - to more kids - back to our initial junction - more problems.
And we will be here referencing the old good action of the govt that afterall, past govt did it right and fed everyone, therefore the current one has no excuse than to find a way to do it too.
We will always come back to this junction.
The bitter truth is that population growth as to slow down drastically.

A man earning 300k who decided to marry 2 wives and have 5 kids will continue to struggle even if his income or salary is increasing by 100k every 5 years years while he keeps giving birth to extra kids every 2 years.
No matter what he does, he will always struggle compared to keeping just 1 wife and 2 kids while the salary keeps increasing by 100k every 5 years

obeegee:
Over 90% of farming in nigeria is not mechanized. Ask yourself, were these guys not having 17 children for many years before terrorism and insecurity started?

I still think the bigger issue is the displacements caused by this insecurity we face.

But the displacement is majorly caused by having too many kids that can't be trained and are all now ripe to take up arms to displace them.
Many of those husa/fulanis into farming and cattle herding are not interested in it anymore because what they will make in their life time can be made in just kidnapping and collecting ransom within a week or a month.
A boy left to rot in the street who is now working for alhaji taking his 50 cows around and only comes home toeat in the morning and night for 20 years after which he is settled with his own 5 cows to start his life.
Now imagine the same person been introduced to a kidnapping gang and after 1 operation gets 5m, do you think such a person will go back to cow herding or farming?
And they have so so so many untrained children who are jostling to be the next terrorists, rebels, kidnappers, cow rustlers etc

CorperKola:
I saw a story recently that made me vwry emotional
A man's wife died after child birth, she had five babies but one died remaining four
The man said ultrasound saw just 3 babies during her pregnancy but she delivered five
After giving birth she kept repeating that she might not survive this but the husband should make sure he takes care of their children and send them to school
I was really sad
Now they asked the man what do you do for a living
He said maruwa driver
How many children did you and your wife have before now
This man said 10
As in Ten !!!
Freaking Ten !!!
Now fourteen !!!!

I didnt even know whether to be angry or sad again
This was in Kano

Useless people.

10 kids before and still have 4 more and you are driving keke Maruwa ....... That is generational poverty.

I HATE people with more than 3 kids with passion.
If you want me to be active or comment alot on nairaland, just press my activation button which is a thread about irresposible parenting or too many kids.
You will always see me there pouncing on the useless parents.
I had trauma growing up and i don't pray even for my enemy to experience the poverty i passed through.
Poverty kills dreams, passions, aspirations, skills, love and so many things.
Life is very sweet and beautiful. SO many things to enjoy, to experience and see yet poverty will make evey seconds, minutes, hours and days of your life to be terrible, miserable and frustrating.
All you will know and experience is hardship, struggling, bitter experiences, low self esteems etc
Parents who deliberately through their actions subjects their kids to poverty are the real SATANS

SixSeven:
They are also not materialistic in nature so once the Maslow's hierachy of needs is satisfied, the rest is extra to them. It's those in cities like Lagos who want to have the biggest mansion, biggest car, extra buttocks etc. They are close to nature and contentment. This is why their elites take advantage of this simple life to buy all the luxury and pretend to be simple.

And being contented with the lowest maslow's ranking of human wants is their major drawback.
They are satisfied with just fulfiling the first step of human wants which is feeding and in today's world, there is more to humans than feeding.
Without aspiration to be better, to not be contented with the little you have currently, you will never be competitive with the outside world and sooner or later, those who aspire to get better, know better, earn better, get educated better, experiment more, innovate more will conquer those who are meek.
It is the reason our forefathers and african were conqured in the first place because they were just satisfied with the little they had - add more wives, drinking all day and dancing at the king's palace or market square all day long.
They were not inovative or aspiring alot and today we the generations are suffering it.

Mirasteel:
They are more educated than you and also try to respect people's religion.

Lol....and we are not seeing more of them online or social media contributing their quota with good comments.

obeegee:
Nah nah

Those people you see begging on the roads in Abuja are mostly people displaced from conflict zones. They usually have nowhere else to go. Hence, they come to the most lucrative part of the country for begging.

Insecurity is the bigger problem.

Actually the man having 17 children is good for the country. Where do you think the labor comes from to cultivate lands in the north to grow the food we all desperately need?

Are you really serious about this statement? that a man who can't take care of his 17 children is good for the country? because of cheap farm labours?
Omoh.......i think it is high time i need to hustle visa for my kids not to stay in this kind of enviroment.
What happens to having lesser kids like 2, well trained so that rather than working labourously in the farm for token, they can have the resources to get good eductaion for mechanized farming and earn better.
What 17 kids will do in a month, a well trained good earning tractor driver will do in a day or 2.
DOn't you think this is better?

zeyt:
This Lere thought he know something about the North but he dont. Whe you see Northerner earning less as a salary rest assured that its like hobby only stupid depends on salary. Average Norherner is a farmer and can feed your entire family all year round without reverting to salary.
In the North you see a family with over 20 children and yet they never experience deprivation and are all well brought up effectly contributing to the society.

Lol...Feed our entire family? depends on what you call feeding.
Those non-balanced diet foods?
And do you actually think raising kids is all about feeding?
We have a very long way to go in this country honestly.
I am afraid of the future of Nigeria my kids will grow into.

Realguyman1:
The north have been birthing anyhow right from day one of Nigeria nor be today e start, the problem we have is this useless set of civilians we have in government in the name of democracy.

Why didn't the people causing all this insecurities in Nigeria today dears it when the military guys of those days were in power? it's the politicians that are causing all this insecurity wahala we are passing through now, and the useless civilian government since 1999 have been the one enabling them because most of them in government are also part of it.

So unfortunate we are going to live with this insecurities for a very long time because Nigerians are not even ready at all for anything good.

At the bolded ......that something looks normal or it is what they do regularly doesn't make it right nor sustainable.
It may be right or sustainable THEN BUT it is no longer SUSTAINABLE and what you are seeing now is the dividends of their long term actions.
Nigeria can not afford the population it has NOW for the resources around.
One man, One wife and 2 kids MAX is the best going forward if not, no matter what a goverment do, if the population growth rate is constantly higher than GDP growth rate, the country will always fail.

obeegee:
I understand where you are coming from bro.

But these guys having 17 children is not a new thing. They have been existing many years in their part of the country, happy and living fulfilled lives mainly through farming. They never needed a lot of money to live good lives.

Insecurity displaced many of them and then they do not have any other option than to turn to begging or crime.

I still stand that insecurity is the bigger proble.

But insecurity is constantly fueled by having too many kids you can't cater for, right?
So it is a circle

WriteerNg:

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E get as person go take panel beat you, u go begin speak in tongues.

Na wetin dey do Trump.

Shaheed drones wey make Zelensky crase don turn Trump to psychiatritc patient.

LordAdam16:
iran: we will blockade hormuz
the us: we will help you

🤣😂😀

na the same bad cocaine wen dem dey sniff for washington
nai you go buy
change your supplier!

🤣😂😀

-Lord

WriteerNg:
Don Tzu:

Break an enemy blockade by blockading their blockade.

FoolishBoy419:
JUST IN:

US intelligence indicates China is preparing to deliver air defense systems including MANPADS, to Iran in the coming weeks – CNN

They should be less worried with what others are doing. After all, they are also rearming and doing so to isreal without anyone watching them