martinosi: Have you lived in Libya? Have you been to the Country, Can your own Country boast of steady power supply and water and a developing economy and Jobs and a social safety Net?
You need to Stop parroting lies of People in the western media who dont give a damm about your Nigerian black A***,
There is a war being waged against Africans and you dont even know it, shame on you!!!
But i have to pity you as i have lived in Nigeria and can understand how the Media there is hopeless and are slaves to western information.
The worst slave is a slave that have no physical chains around him but has mental chains and he does not even know it,
Hey MR MAN you don't have the reply my post.
But if you want to argue, do it constructively and not with insults.
jjgirljay: its very painful when i read things like this,most nigerian women who keep bad company usually end up doing this,3 years ago i did the same,my man better not talk,i will slap and hit him all i can,if he tries to touch me i call the cops,he goes on his knees begging me before the cops arrives.
i knew he loved me and all that but friends mostly all dem girls with baby fathers,they just mess up your head.
i came to my sense when 2 of my so called friends husband walked out,now my man is my best friend
she needs to change or you better walk out,dont bring kids into a home where theres no peace.
Fimmy: People are so funny is this Forum, please what are the main criteria of a good governance? is Libya a Socialist or a Capitalist country? these are part things you should put into consideration when talking about Libya Gaddafi did a VERY VERY VERY good job in Libya, for me a prefer a Gaddafi to all the 15leaders that we have had since we gained independence, maybe you guys don't know, the NTC and Bokom Haram are of the same idea, they both want a change in government and rule of law. Trade Union is a agenda of a Capitalist nation. please what is human right?? in term of Opposition, Nigeria has opposition since 1960, where are we today. Point of correction the GREEN BOOK is Libya rule of law, more or less their constitution.Libya has never practiced democracy so how do you expect them to have a Constitution l
Libya once have a constitution.
Gaddafi replaced it with the green book which contains his personal philosophy.
Show me your friends, and I will tell you the kind of person you are !!!!! What you should be saying is, most of your friends use chinko phones, 50 % of my friends use Iphones. (before you comment, I have so so many friends ) !!!!
HA HA, listen to your-self.
100% of I-Phones in the market are locked to one foreign Network(AT&T.e.t.c) or the other.
And until they are unlocked no can use them on Nigerian networks.
Which means less than 1% of Nigerian use I-Phones.
logic101: as usual u avoided the questions , id int not blame anyone just pointed out facts, asnwer my questions then i would get back to you but i guess you wont ,
logic101: your equating a country(russia) not having so called"democracy" to it not beeing attacked by the powers that be.Well lets discuss you also have to define the meaning of the word attack(there are various forms of attack/warfare) a.Physical(military campaigns) russia has one of the best military in the world, cant mess with them,
b.financial(former french colonies in west africa have their currencies tied to the franc) rigging of socalled free market, financial institutions(imf,worldbank)funnily enough gaddaffi never asked for loans from them.
c.Pyschological----colonialism leads to hate of one selfs, lack of belief in ability, dependence, new way of lifee,
d, media(well aljazerraa has done well (qatar owned (qatar allies with the powers that be) hates gaddafii and does the willing of the master) why would qatar hate q/kadaffii?, well he pulled out of the arab league and ridiculed the arabs(arabs aint determined by the colour of their skin modern arabs are not really arabs) thats why the arab league hates him and sold him out, but hold on a little digression what is the relationship between arab league and an african country? or should nigeria form christian league and have a say in europe, ? back to media, Cnn has played its role(the so called liberal enlightened channel) , has cast the rebels(thugs) if you call them that as the oppresed . bbc(well posh etonian channel right? you see there is power in branding, they maintain the status quo of the powers that be) i have a quote from frantz fannon, "when a journalist from the west asks questions,it is seldom in order to help us"remember the word humanitarian , continue quote "in the algerian war,even the most liberal of the french reporters never cease to use ambiguous words in describing our strugggle .When we reproached them for this,hey replied in all good faith that they were being Objective" in conclusion western media is a propogator of orwellian information, there are other types of warfare but wont go into more details,
I see you keep on blaming the West.
But if may who do you blame for Nigeria woes since 1960.
Who do you blame for the Nigerian civil war.
Look, it is only looser that blames others for it failure.
Japan was bombed by the US,
Today Japan is one of the worlds largest economy.
Yet the-same US still operate a military base in Japan.
My point is that you don't make enmity with the WEST and expect success.
The-same people criticizing the WEST end up going their for education, health.e.t.c
Name one industrialized economy include China, without Western support.
ljila: SECONDED Bolded is true and a very valid point. If you carefully read the posts, i don't think he's saying we are to blame the West for all our problems because we also have a responsibility. He's saying they have a case to answer and they very well do.
Don't you think its ironic that the British Prime Minister took his time to come home when the rioting in London was outta control but broke short his holiday to head the TNC or whatever meeting and announce the troops are advancing? So this war is more important than running his country, isn't it? THERE'S MORE TO THIS NATO INVASION THAN THEY'RE TELLING US.
Did you know that Libya gold reserves is approx. half that of the Uk's and that's alot considering the population difference. Do you know about Ghadaffi's gift to the third world that was started and finished without any dime from the IMF/World bank? Did you know that Libya's GDP was over $90 billion as of last year? Did you know about the killings of the black Libyans by rebels? Did you know about the excellent living standards of the Libyan people pro-NATO invasion? Did you know Libya wanted to start there own nuclear program some years ago but the "World powers" managed to get their puppets, the United Nations to stop it eventually? Did you know the West were alright to deal with Ghadaffi all these time, till they realised his great dream/plan for Africa that was hopefully gonna reduce on dependence on them? Even the bible says "Whoever goes to war at his own expense?" Indeed, the Libyans are paying for this war. You think debt ridden America love the Libyans so much to spend billions just to overthrow 1 man, no strings attached? No stakes?? Haba mana. Cameron is making cuts whilst increasing VAT and all that but can afford to go to war??
You just said the truth there,
The west and Gaddafi were enemies since the 70s
The West and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are enemies.
But is the West friendly with Putin? NO
But they(West) can't touch Putin, because he has democratic structures in-place in Russia, while he works underground.
But the problem with Gaddafi is that he stubbornly held on to power, instead of creating a govt were he can be the godfather.
Today even the Arab league and Most African leader are not supporting him.
dullard africans are so full of inferiority complex that they dont even think europeans have a case to answer with regard to the atrocities that they have committed and continue to comitt against africans.
I urge these dullards to spend some time researching american and european foreign policy with regard to africa and when they find out what these people have in store for african people maybe a light might just go on in their heads.
israel received billions of dollars in compensation from america and europe to compensate them for the holocaust, to date israel STILL receives $3billion a year in military aid from america excluding other financial assistance and yet dullards in africa think europe owes us nothing despite the fact that europe continues to ra.pe, pillage and plunder africa.
these same dullards still cant get their heads around the fact that the europeans look upon them with nothing but contempt and disgust and are amazed at how africans continue to allow them to get away with even more atrocities.
i just overheard an american white house official gloating on newsnight over the "collapse of gadaffi's regime" this individual actually went as far as saying that the takeover of libya was cheap as no americans lives were lost in the "liberation" of libya!!!
what about the thousands of innocent libyan men, women and children that were massacred by NATO bombs, apache helicopters and marauding rebels?
The problem with you, is that you choose to close your eye to atrocities perpetrated by African leader on Africans.
For the past 20 year African govt have been receiving, donations, loan from the west and international organisation.
And what did our African leader do with those funds? Waste it off-course . And you blame the west for that.
Tell me what the AU did to help the people of Somalia, Sudan and Kenya apart from sending troops .
If the Chinese and Japanese were blaming the west for their problems, will they ever develop?
martinosi: Emmatok you need to crawl back under the rock where u were sleeping.
You are just talking ignorantly.
AND BY THE WAY WHO TOLD U THAT CHANGING LEADERS = IMPROVING A COUNTRY, GO AND CHECK U.A.E
So you think changing leader don't have improve a country.
Well the U.A.E :The politics of the United Arab Emirates take place in a framework of a federal, presidential, elective monarchy. The UAE is a federation of seven absolute monarchies: the emirates of Abu Dhabi, Ajman, Fujairah, Sharjah, Dubai, Ras al-Khaimah and Umm al-Qaiwain.
The UAE government comprises three branches: the executive, legislature, and judiciary. The executive branch consists of the President, Vice President, Prime Minister, Federal Supreme Council, and a Council of Ministers (the cabinet). The Federal Supreme Council is composed of the emirs of the seven emirates. It elects the president, vice president, members of the Council of Ministers, and judges of the Federal Supreme Court. The Supreme Council also formulates government policy, proposes and ratifies national laws, and ratifies treaties.
cap28: Those libyan rebels are criminals, butchers and terrorists - are you aware that they hate black africans? are you aware that they have been beheading and hanging their fellow black libyan citizens many of whom are from a tribe that remain loyal to muammar gadaffi?
are you aware that they hate gadaffi because he wanted to form a united states of africa that could resist european annexation and control?
are you aware that those racist arabs in benghazi hated him because he identified more with africans than arabs?
are you aware that NATO and the western media pretended as if they didnt know what was going on when these same rebels were slaughtering black african people in benghazi?
NATO armed, financed and fought this war on behalf of these al qaeda criminals - NATO are only interested STEALING LIBYA'S HUGE OIL RESERVES TOGETHER WITH THEIR VAST GOLD BULLION WHICH GADAFFI WISELY KEPT HIDDEN AWAY IN LIBYA.
NATO have been using apache helicopters to strafe innocent civillians on almost a daily basis in order to force gadaffi to relinquish power - why are they doing this? to protect civillians? If you beleive that then you need your head examined.
why didnt NATO intervene to protect you in nigeria when obasanjo dropped bombs on the people of Odi or Gbamaratu?
the british and american govt has already STOLEN OVER $32 BILLION DOLLARS FROM THE LIBYAN SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUND - why is it so hard for you to understand that europeans hate you, why is it so hard for you to understand that they want to keep you enslaved for life - why is this so hard for you to understand?
Look i don't believe in your Anti-west sentiments.
The problem with Africa is from Africans.
Do you also want to blame the West for Zimbabwe crisis.
If Gaddafi is actually the good man that you preach .
How come Libya has no other leader for the past 40 years, instead him and his Son were ruling.
ljila: Britain not in the EU? Where did you get that from? They are very much in! Russia is not in support of NATO invasion. Check for evidence of Putin condemning it and asking who gave them the right to invade.I don't blame the West for Africa's problems because our leaders have cases to answer but the West have to take some blame where they have faulted. WHAT THE WHAT? Where on earth did you read that? NO HE DID NOT!
Britain is a partial member of the EU.A member of the EU, it chose to remain outside the Economic and Monetary Union for the time being.
[quote author=nna_bu_ike link=topic=740790.msg8983430#msg8983430 date=1314044732]By these comments I come to 2 conclusions, you are either very young or you are very naive for your age. I can still have children if I want?? What kind of a man will knowingly bear children out of wedlock? Do you not feel that somehow your position is fundamentally flawed, even though you cannot understand why? Do you think that the large number of man-lover-man degenerates that populate the western world is not somehow connected with an increase in the number of single mothers?
If the fear of jail puts a man off from exacting discipline in his own house then such a man is a coward.[/quote]How is my position flawed.
Even married men and women bear children out of wedlock in Nigeria Here.
knightride: Do you know the meaning of the New World Order? Whose idea is it? Ghadaffi's Why are you not condemning the EU? Please Show me one successful African Country??
cap28: those bas.tards that have invited the north atlantic terrorists into their own country because of wickedness and greed will never know peace in their lives, if they think that NATO will ever allow them to touch the vast oil reserves as well as over 140 tonnes worth of gold bullion that gadaffi wisely kept in libya they are living in a dream world, these arab racists will curse the day they ever had any association with the criminal entity known as NATO.
Nigeria and Angola you are number 2 and 3 respectively in terms of oil reserves and chinese investments - get ready.
Long live Muammar Gadaffi!!!!
90% of those fighters are Libyans, most of decamped from the Libyan.
It is easy to come here and blame the West for the problem in Africa.
Yet we African easy run to the West for refuge.
Even the Almighty Muammar Gadaffi cannot keep his stolen fund in Libya, instead he went to the west
all4naija: Where did all these Jihadist rhetoric come from? Why would somebody with the slightest sense support Gaddafi for killing his people and oppressing them whenever they go against his views. Guys supporting Gaddafi here, why not ask yourselves how did Gaddafi get to that position in the first place before you start hammering on free basic needs provided for Libyans?
I am not surprised that some of those siding with the Libyan govt. are not far from enduring the best of dictatorship and tyranny. Remember not everybody would side with that. I better be free than have all the basic things at my disposal in fear or being imprisoned. There is nothing that can be traded for freedom, it is the best thing that can happen to any human being.
What kind of backwardness is that for one family to rule a nation forever after stealing the power through coupe,rhetorically speaking?
The Rebels or rather the NATO lead fight should act quickly to remove that foolish head out of that country. Enough is a enough for the wise - Gaddafi is not needed in Libya, he is not their god. I think better life awaits Libyans in the future. What has having ethnic that can't organize themselves for? Like in the case of Nigeria. What has the large ethnic groups done to move the country forward order than cause trouble or kill each other.I mean if Libyans can't stay together as group after this war then let them divide for freedom and peace to reign!
Tell them .
Can you imagine this lazy and currupt Nigerians come here supporting Gaddafi.
The-same Gaddafi the wants Africa to be one country so that he can rule them the way he likes.
For those of you, shouting western this and that, tall me one successful African country without western backing.
[quote author=nna_bu_ike link=topic=740790.msg8983003#msg8983003 date=1314041053]If situations have devolved to the point that a woman is slapping/beating you and you come here to complain then you are not a real man!! Women are like children, they need to be taught how to behave. If you remove discipline from the rearing of children, then those children will grow up to be animals. If you remove discipline from the training of women, then those women will destroy your family. Sometimes a man must be physical and you will be surprised at how far a swift backhand to the face can cure belligerence. When I am confronted by people who insist that a man must not raise his hand at a woman, I often reply that we do not live in the garden of Eden and sometimes one must do what is necessary for the greater good.[/quote]If you get physical with your wife, i assure you she will be the first to send you to jail.
If you are married to a troublesome woman- Make sure you put all option including Divorce on the table, if the it get worse just separate form her.
If you are not married- Save your-selves the stress, stay single and enjoy your life. You can still have children if you want.