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I have travelled to several countries in the Middle East and Asia on business trips and i am always ashamed when i see what this people have done to beautify their country. Hope fully the Nigerians in Diaspora will one day come together to shape the future our landscape.

Look at the tallest building in the world ,The Burj Dubai which was built in Dubai by the Samsung Construction Company for just a little over $4 billions dollars, the building is now the new landmark of Dubai after the Burj Al Arab 7 star hotel.

Australia has the Opera house as it's landmark
The USA has several landmarks like the San Francisco bridge and the statue of liberty
South Africa has the Vodacom building and the Table mountain of cape town
England has the London bridge and the London Eye
China has the Great wall

But Nigeria has no single internationally recognizable Landmark, only Fashola seems to be making efforts to change that with the proposed Eko Atlantic city bridge.

We need crazy ideas like this one in singapore which has just been won a design award;

THE.AMAKA:
this in all honestly, all jokes aside.
run for president and im sure people will vote for you.
even me sef, i will vote for you.

Thank you for that, I appreciate the compliment. But my sister it is easier said than done.I don't want to derail this thread into political matters so i will keep it short. In today’s Nigerian party politics ,it will be difficult for someone like me to win an election. I am not popular and i don't come from one of the prominent political families. Thank you anyways for the suggestion. I wish Nigeria well.

We must modernize our architecture to attract all sorts of wealthy buyers from out side the country as well as inside the country and to promote a property boom in our residential markets. If we have a solid development plan put in place, Nigeria could start "exporting" properties within a few years. We also need to get rid of quack and uncertified construction companies in the industry and bring in hundreds of small foreign constructions companies to undertake massive constructions projects, these companies will be mandated to oversee the construction of these estates. They will also be mandated to hire Nigerian skilled and unskilled workers. That will end up creating thousands if not millions of jobs.

Residential estates must be carefully planned and measures must be put in place to maintain the estate’s infrastructure and the environment. One of the major problems with Nigerian estates is that they don't take care of the grass. They leave them to grow and turn into weed. Gutters should also be covered with slabs to prevent unwanted odours and mosquitoes:

THE.AMAKA:
lmfao! did i say i was living in Nigeria? I wasn't born there and neither do i live there but i still think Abuja is a beautiful city, oya, die!

Be civil, refrain from comments like that, we are arguing here not fighting.

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We must mandate our architects to be more creative in their design and to stop designing buildings that look like churches or mosques all the time :

Instead of constructing those metal overhead pedestrian bridges which can become death traps during lightening storms, why can't we construct underground lightening-safe tunnels which pedestrians can make use of to cross roads?

Look at what our city center and parks are supposed to look like ,clean and inviting:

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THE.AMAKA:
@EmperorOlu
what a dumb thing to say. have you seen Abuja?Calabar? Port Harcourt?
im impressed by those cities and im not naija born or raised.
Abuja is simply wonderful, the best in naija i would say. and Calabar is not too far behind it.
carry your rant go, abeg!

@akinalabi
well people that have lived in both places have given their testimonies, people that have done their NYSC there, people that have traveled their think so. even while i was in naija my uncles were telling me about calabar since they have traveled there. so i think i'll take their word for it. besides, i havent heard any bad thing about calabar yet. maybe cross river (in other parts) but not calabar.
Lagos is nice (this island) and that is not even the majority of Lagos.
im sure calabar may have some ruff areas too, but not in abundance or as bad like Lagos.
anyway here is a video.
*those okadas are making the place so ugly, pretty soon they will be gone*

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2KjYQz1EfA[/flash]

Restrain yourself from throwing insults. You can put your point across without resulting to ghetto tactics.

I said before and I will say it again Abuja, Lagos, Port Harcourt, Calabar are wack cities when compared to other cities worldwide. You should not limit yourself or your imagination just because you live in Nigeria.

First and foremost we lack good infrastructure and the few infrastructure we have lacks any EYE POPPING design. Most cities of the world have recognizable landmarks but Nigeria has “squat”

I don’t know why people like always settle for second class standards when we as a nation of intellectuals can attain first class standards. Nigerian cities are poorly planned from electrics poles littering the skylines to blocked drainage systems to massive port holes on speedways to dirty & ugly looking bridges to muddy roads to poorly constructed buildings and insanely network planned streets.

Let me show you what we could have achieved with some of the Monies stolen by our governments over the last 49 years:

PupetMasta:
I love your angle and it is good to have a new and fresh idea on an alternative way for Nigeria to move forward (enough of Nigeria must separate). I agree with you on a need for a long term (not less than 20 yrs) good leader that will change the status quo in Nigeria. Nigeria needs a total overhauling and it is almost impossible for a democratic leader of 8 yrs to achieve it.

South Africa is good today not because they have a democratic government but because they started their democracy under the masters of democracy (white), the white has instilled institutions that is guiding them today, Nigeria has non of these institutions. Even the democracy we are not running it well, imagine not knowing the whereabout of the President foe more than 30 days now and still the VP cant take over. We have been kept on hold by someone group.

Me as a person I don't care whatever governance system we run in Nigeria or who leads us so far it is good, fair and provides justice to everyone.

Pupetmasta ,you have made my day. Finally someone that shares my views on how to move Nigeria forward.My brother I don’t care who leads Nigeria, it could an Hausa ,Igbo or Yoruba but we need a leader who have vision and who can create jobs without depending too much on oil reserve. We need a long term leader who delivers.

Imagine if Fashola was to Govern Lagos state for the next 20years and develop it at the current rate which he is developing it now,do you think Lagosians will complain? What happens when Fashola leaves office in 6 years, what if Lagos get another visionless leader all in the name of Democracy.

Look at Libya,Gadaffi has been in power for years ,he denounced the USA and made the C.I.A gain his respect by control his oil and providing abundantly for his people.enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the Africa. That is why Chavez is always vsiting libya trying to learn from the best.

You are very right about South Africa; since the ANC took power from the whites in 1994 the country has started going down. There are so much violent crimes in the country and the black politicians are just looting the treasury. The only thing holding South Africa together today is the level of white investments in the country, the world cup as well as the whites in parliament and opposition parties. The people of South Africa have started complaining about the ANC government and if something is not done quickly ,the whites will leave the country and take their investments with them.

When you tell my brothers that we need “white” investments and “white” experts to help us turn around our ministry, they start calling you a traitor or they say that you have inferiority complex. What they fail to admit to themselves is that in our 49 years of existence as nation, we Nigerians with all the education we have acquired we are unable to manage companies or organizations. Look at the 5 banks that failed in Nigeria recently, one of the directors bought 28 properties in Dubai while another had over 300 billion naira in his account as well as 11 million pounds in another account. This is not the first time Nigerian banks have crashed ,you remember in the 90s way before the financial crisis when over 100 banks failed nationwide all because of poor management and greed.

Look at our infrastructure, our bridges are very dirty because no one maintains them, our roads are fill with mud and refuse because there is no proper management. When it rains in lagos, roads become flooded because the drainage system is blocked. The list goes on and on. What my brothers don’t realize is that Nigeria is now damaged to the extent that foreign managers are needed to bring discipline to our citizens and transfer proper management skills to our citizens.

real4life:
No but i have been following posts on nairaland long enough.


you are right on that point, what I am looking for is the "real motive" behind this plot to break Nigeria

You and I know that the North as a region is not the real problem of Nigeria. For one, the idea that the North has ruled the country for most of the time since independence does not hold much water. Those greedy military men do not have tribe, culture or religion, they are simply officers and everyone else is a bloody civilian. The North has suffered as much as (or even more than) the south since independence. We have been despoiled and battered by the military rulers, our civilian looters and corrupt government lobbying businessmen. The way forward in Nigeria is to do away with these criminals, seize their stolen cash and property and declare independence afresh. We must not waste our precious time and talent redesigning maps and looking for pins in the ocean.

I love that picture, i have never seen any picture that puts all of them in the same place. What year was it taken and what were their ranks then? By the way great argument, you have some valid points but the issue of religion still need to be sorted out if Nigeria is to remain one. Most southerners still feel detached from the north because of religious violence.

trueword:
Saving Nigeria doesn't require an emperor because one thing that I tend to see is the power corrups, especially absolute power. Nigeria is being held hostage by invididuals who only care about getting rich and could care less about governing the country.

The economic proposals put forth seem good, but the actions that will be taken to "cleanse the system" will meet some international resistance. Holding public executions and things of that sort won't really gain you any allies, but may actually open the door for western powers to come over and take over Nigeria in the name of "bringing democracy". A different approach needs to be taken if we want to get rid of crooks in government.

It's too bad that true constitutional amendment is not really happening. The terms of senators, house members and other important positions need to be limited in order to make sure that greedy people aren't in power positions forever. The powers given to the Fedral government must be reduced drastically. If states had more power then positions in Abuja will not be a powerful. So if someones is trying to cause harm they will only affect one or maybe two states instead of the whole country with their actions.

Most importantly, the idea of rotating the preseidency between the north and south has to be thrown out.
1. The current situation
First of all, the south is more diverse than the south. You have the south-west, south-east and south-south all wanting to hold the presidency so we can't just go back to the north after one part of the south has held the presidency. It must rotate through the south completely or 2/3 regions before going back to the northerners.

2. The ideal situation

The president of Nigeria needs to be selected on the basis of merit and not selection by politcal god-fathers. I wouldnt really care who is in office as long as they are doing their job.

All of these ideas that are being proposed are easier said than done but we must decise a very strategic way to rid nigeria of those holding it hostage.

Maybe we can find a way to protect the vote of people during elections. I'm sure if the people's votes are respected then the right people will be put into office.

Thank you’re for your valuable contribution ,I agree with most of the points you have made. My idea of an emperor came about not because I want to subject all Nigerians to bow to me but because I want to create an atmosphere of imperial loyalty and discipline.

Many people will not agree with me on the idea of a monarch in Nigeria because of what we have been through in the Nigeria for the past 49.That does not however mean that a monarch will rule the country badly.

In my opinion, monarchs perform better than elected presidents because being a monarch is a life long responsibility and most monarchs want to perform well to ensure that his people do not oppose his rule. If you look at modern day monarchs all over the world you will realise their countries enjoy the highest standard of living. Many people feel that a monarch has absolute power but I disagree, a monarch is only in power for as long as his people want him to be. A monarch strength is his people, if his people are happy, he will rule for long but if they are not he will have a lot problems to deal with. A revolution can topple a monarch anytime.

I am not saying a monarchical system of government is the only way for Nigeria, I am saying that if I happen to take power that is the way I will go. Allow me to explain why, I have studied the whole Nigerian system and I don’t think party politics will be a safe option because with party politics, my hands will be tied and I will have to be loyal to my party before I can be loyal to my people ,this in my opinion will corrupt me even if don’t want to be corrupted and because of my limited powers I could be impeached or assassinated easily if I decide to go against my party.

On the other hand if I am a monarch, my word is final and I will not have any loyalties to any parties or sponsors. I would have gained power by force and retain it by force. I know force is not a very nice word but if you want to defeat a group like the Kaduna mafia, you need force. No good president can survive in ASO rock without absolute power. Look at what is going on right now in ASO rock, yara adua is probably dead but the powers at play do not want Jonathan to take over power and Jonathan himself is a sitting duck for the military to take over. In a monarchical system, that will not happen, if the leader is no longer available, his wife or son will take over and there will be no need for arguments or any state of limbo scenario.

Democracy will never work in the Nigeria, maybe it will work in a split Nigeria but not in a united one. As per the executions ,I will tell you now that I am not scared of the USA you want to do something for the good of your people ,you have do it openly without fear or favour. I am sure you remember what Rawlins did in Ghanaian, he freed his people from the corrupt group and look at Ghana today.

My brother i am not a stubborn person and I am not advocating to be a monarch for ever, if I take power I may not even become an Emperor ,I might just call myself THE LEADER but never a president because that word sounds very weak in Nigeria and the power mafia does not respect it. To be able to do good things in Nigeria corrupt people need to fear you. You need to deal with corrupt people ruthlessly. Take a look at china and Singapore, how their laws are strict and how their nations are stable and developing at a rapid rate.

I know that there a lot of good Nigerians out there who can lead the nation but if we do not clease the system those good people will always be overshadowed.Once you cleanse the system and put fear in the heart of Nigerians.Nigerians will be very scared to peddle drusgs or commit fraud.Nigerians are naturally intelligtent but instead of using our intelligence for good ,we use it for crime.If you make harsh laws that execute drugs dealer and fraudsters ,the crime rate will reduce drastically.You need to execute some example to send a clear messge to the world that New Niegria does not tolerate crime or harbour criminals.The USA in it’s current state cannot invade Nigeria because their hands are full ,the only thing they can do is ask their CIA to assasinate the monarch.

Obinoscopy:
You keep on disclosing your true identity. Who told you I'm from the Igbo extraction? And real leaders don't judge people based on their race but based on their actions and achievements. Tell me what proof do you have that I argue in an uncivil manner? On the contrary I think the reverse is the case. If the americans think the way you do, they wouldn't have voted Obama afterall he is from Kenya where civilization is scarce. No they don't think like barbarians, they belief that a man is judged based on his credentials. I advise you improve on yourself before you can call yourself a leader, you are everything opposite of a true leader

So much for arguing in a civilized manner.

Dede1:
Only a dunce born in Nigeria will shower such praises on South Africa. Anyway I am not surprised since the mental state of the punk shouting the praises seemed to be unstable.

My say “when a person points a finger to another person, the other four fingers of the pointer are directed to him/her”. If South African is better than my town, there is no gain saying that your backwater town is even worse than my town.

It is only an overfeed fool that will be chasing rat while the fire engulfs his/her house. I thought you would have compared South Africa to the cesspit called One Nigeria you forbearers fought to erect for three years.

Let us assume that your conjectural craps were true that I am in Nigeria striking the pavement to eke out three square meals a day. I am of the believe that your forbearers would be causing that the day you were born for fleeing from One Nigeria many them fought and died to sustain.

Are sure you are an IBO man ,you are starting to talk like an ABOKI,by the way learn to spell properly.So much for your level of education.You are just trying to distract me like a noisy mosquito looking for blood to suck.Please control yourself and stop stalking me.Go watch an X-rated movie or something.

Jeez you are so local.

Dede1:
Any person born with deceitful and defective gene will always grow up to be a twisted or maniacal individual. In one thread you will proffer that crude oil has contributed to the retrogressive outcome of Nigeria and in another thread you will want us to believe that every backwater state in Yoruba land has awesome deposit of crude oil.

What a twisted fellow without self discipline and control. Of all places, you sojourned to South Africa in search of diamond. I wish you luck in the abyss depth of diamond mines in South Africa.

A deluded little honey bird that challenges its god for a fight on the bases of perceived meal of grains.

People ,I have a stalker……………………………………

Oh boy , dey send you come pursue me ? abi you no get work ?why you dey follow me up and down for this forum.You be gay ? abeg o i be christian i no dey that level.

Now on a serious note ,i think you are mentally challenged, do you ever read my comments and UNDERSTAND them or do you memorize to pass like you did in secondary school. Your level of s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y has reached catastrophic heights. Yes i did say that OIL has caused more problems than good for Nigeria and i am sure anyone with a brain(which i am sure you lack) knows that or has Oil wealth contributed to your Igboland in any positive way?

And yes i corrected "Kusamoto" letting him know that 2 states in Yoruba land has Oil. Now tell me what is wrong with those comments or how are they connected to each other? You just want to take a swipe at me every chance you get whether i am wrong or right. I guess you are feeling inferior to me and the only way you can make yourself happy is by insulting me every chance you get.

For your information South Africa is a million light years ahead of your home town. South Africa produces $8 billion worth of diamonds annually. South Africa manufactures Hummer 3 and Bmw which is exported to Australia and U.K .South Is the second largest producer of Gold in the world. South Africa host 13 million tourists everyear. Cape town was voted one of the most beautiful cities in the world. South Africa’s infrastructure is better than the U.K’s because it was developed by the Dutch.South Africa makes hollywood grade movies and they have already won one oscar award.

They can boast of many achievements in South Africa, i wonder what you can boast of in your village.How many tourist visit your village yearly.

By the way where did you sojourn to?,You are probably still stuck in Nigeria eating tuo shinkafa and you come dey player hate us wey don experience better life on greener lands.Oh boy go queue for embassy make you get visa travel ,otherwise go obasanjo farm go find work. LOL

Feast your eyes on a First Class nation known as South Africa you mumu:

Afam:
Why this type of ethnic bigotry? Igbos are now stealing lands?

Don’t take my comments to heart ,my comments are meant for that chump ezeagu and his cohorts who think Niger Delta land is the property of biafra

SapeleGuy:
It seems you stand alone on this precipice, why?

Tell him Sapele ,he is one of those Ndigbo people who wants to steal your land.They lack "country confidence",they don't believe that their nation does not need Niger Delta to survive.Their eye dey chook always,trying to claim other people's property.Anyway i trust MEND ,MEND go mend any Ibgoman wey try nonsense.

Dede1:
If I had not read your responses on some other threads, I would have given you the benefit of reasons. If the people of your stock do not care or give a damning fig about their kinsman in Kwara, Delta and Edo States, please note that Ndigbo do care.

I am beginning to wonder if your social order could be graded as adequate for this discussion. Granted that the Ogoni are not Igbo, there existed mutual cooperation between Igbo and Ogoni people. Again, there are striking evidences that your knowledge of Nigerian history rather constitutes hindrance to you than give you a boost in this discourse.

Can you please attch links to prove that your statements are true,show me one prominet Igbo man who has come out in support of MEND or who has critized the federal government about how it is managing the environmental damage caused by oil companies in the Niger Delta.It is good that you care about your extended folks but do they care about you or do they even want to join you?

Any one with an ounce of intelligence will hask himself that question first,do the Ijaws want to go with Biafra? Don't fool yourslef ,if Niegria splits there will more violence if we remain together as the South.Niegr Delat was it own freedom without any biraafra or odua,deal with it and don't force your Ndigbo on other who  don't want it.

Can you please attach links to prove that your statements are true, show me one prominent Igbo man who has come out in support of MEND or who has criticized the federal government about how it is managing the environmental damage caused by oil companies in the Niger Delta. It is good that you care about your extended folks but do they care about you or do they even want to join you?

Any one with an ounce of intelligence will ask himself that question first,do you think the Ijaws want to go with Biafra? Don't fool yourself ,if Nigeria splits there will be  more violence if we remain together as the South. Niger Delta wants it’s own freedom without any biafra or odua, deal with it and don't force your Ndigbo on others who don't want it.

You are just insulting yourself by stalking me with your tribal issues ,The topic reads :NIGERIANS DON”T NEED CRUDE OIL

Katsumoto:
You can not share what does not belong to you. If Nigeria splits into three Regions, the North or West will not have any share of the resources in the Niger Delta. I am confident that the Yorubas will find other sources of revenue; the North should do the same.

This is not 1966; the North can not fight a southern Nigeria or wage several campaigns against Biafra and Odua. Even a retard knows that the North will be comprehensively defeated. Do not for one second think that the North can use WAR as a threat against Southern Nigeria.

There is nothing practical about your suggestion. Your suggestion is analogous to the practice of paying homage to superior kingdoms in ancient times. The North is not superior to either a combined Southern Nigeria or a split southern Nigeria with a common goal and enemy.

If the concept of Nigeria only appeals to the North because or resource control and access to the ocean, then I think we should start preparing ourselves for this break-up either peacefully or violently. I never advocate violence as a means of resolving issues but do not for one second think that we will be afraid to fight if it boils down to it.

Correction Katsumoto ,ONDO has Oil and one of the  largest deposit of bitumen in the world

Oil deposit has also been found in Ogun state recently:

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/nta90408.htm

So the Oduas will have nothing to worry about

paddyboi:
@emperorolu

sorry to burst your bubble but the nigerian economy is stronger than all those african countries u list there apart from south africa. . .
GDP per capita for nigeria is about $2300. . .which is also higher than countries like cameroon,zambia,lesotho,swaziland. . .that u posted there. . .

as for namibia the population is 2million ppl
botswana population is 1.6million ppl
again this makes it skewed when u look at GDP per capita cause the population is so tiny

i hate it when ppl come online and advocate splitting nigeria after all this yrs based on only tribal sentiments. . .
u have millions of igbo ppl living and doing well in lagos,and all of a sudden in 2010 u want to start uprooting ppl and moving them like cattle just so u can fulfill some ancient biafra or odua dream . . .it doesnt make sense

u talk of oil. . .what has stopped the 5 igbo states with little or no oil from governing themselves with a little level of decency and civility?
how is lagos state which recieves only 20% of its budget from oil,managing to take care of 15million ppl with adequate security and impressive infrastructural development

i suggest that if u want to live in the east,move there and leave other nigerians alone. . .better yet move to lesotho or cameroon if u fancy it so much. . .

as for the white countrys u posted,i guess u dont know that the U.K and Norway are some of the biggest oil producers in the world,

You seem to have misinterpreted my comments ,you don’t seem to know what “GDP per capita” is ,maybe I should define it for you :

An approximation of the value of goods produced per person in the country, equal to the country's GDP divided by the total number of people in the country.

(GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita, the value of all final goods and services produced within a nation in a given year divided by the average (or mid-year) population for the same year.

Her are links to current list of GDP per Capita Per Country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita 

Nigeria may generate more federal income than those states but the economy is poorly planned that money does not reach the masses, there creating a major imbalance in wealth sharing amongst the citizens of Nigeria.

And yes Britain may and Norway may produce produce oil but it makes oil makes a small percentage of it economy unlike Nigeria where our economy is 60% dependent on oil.

By the way accusing me of having tribal sentiments is uncalled for ,my topic is about finding alternate source of income for Nigeria ,why are you focusing on those 3 sentences anout the 3 nations?

At the end of your comment you went of course by telling me to go to Cameroon or Lesotho, am I not allowed to citizen Nigeria and compare it to countries that doing better with little resources?

cap28:
emperor olu dont bother with dede1.

i  think dede1s negative response is  a reflection of why we  remain so backward, instead of focusing on how to move forward as an entity we spend time splitting hairs over boundary disputes which are irrelevant when you consider the bigger picture.  this is why it is so easy for western powers to prey on us, once a people are divided it is easier to control them.

what dede1 fails  to understand is that these so called boundaries are artifical as they were drawn up for the political and economic expediency of colonial powers. 

take the bakassi peninsular - it was originally part of the obong of calabar's kingdom, but wasnt the obong of calabar tricked into handing it over to the british  as a "protectorate" in 1894 (an indirect way for whites to steal land from unsuspecting africans).  bakassi was subsequently converted from a "protectorate" into part of the british colonial territory and then handed over to germany and then france in flagrant disregard of the earlier agreement wiht the obong of calabar, today bakassi is now part of cameroon a former french colony.  does this not tell you that we africans are not even in control over our own boundaries, therefore to start splitting hairs over where a boundary began and ended is to fail to understand that we are merely being used as pawns in a game that is being controlled by the west.

Thank you caps28,I am try as much as possible to avoid guys like dede but they are just so many of them. Instead of them to put their point across politely, they attach insults to it. How can we learn from each other if we keep doing that?

@sapeleguy –No offence taken my brother, I did not know how to correct it until you told me, we are learning everyday and there is absolutely nothing wrong in you correcting me. Cheers.