FL Gators:

Me too!!! And that's only because of the internet. I'v never seen so much people go at each other like this.
Even the young NLers who knew nothing absolutely nothing about Nigeria are so ready to be tribalists/ innocent tribalists.
Tells you how much the internet can influence you

real4life:

@all
sorry to disturb your little referendum, but please stop throwing insults at each other so we can enjoy this thread more,   

By the way, it would be interesting to see how your federal republic of south nigeria would turn out when you dont have hausa/fulani to call goats, mugus, malams etc.

if you may permit, I have a few questions to ask. would you guys be kind enough to

1. sell us fuel, or do we have to revert to animal transport or buy fuel from Ghana

2. keep abuja as our capital, or would you bomb it before you move on, or would u remove the infrastructure that was built with "oil money"

3. let the igbo people continue to live with us, or would you ask them to go back home. i dont know exactly how many of them are there, but they have communities in even the smallest villages in the North and are very happy living there. So are we

4. buy food from us, or would you import from abroad

5. let our expatriates continue working in the oil industry and other professional jobs or would u or send them back home

In short if you succeed to break up Nigeria, how do you plan to treat your new neighbour? As a friend or foe nation?

real4life:

strange reply, are you really from the south? i dont think thats the majority opinion

Anyway thanks for the reasonable post

Katsumoto:

It is because of this that we need to correct and perhaps isolate those that are fueling ethnic bigotry. There are many people who live their lives without any bias towards other tribes. But then they come on NL and think other tribes hate them and then develop a mindset against others. Thanks for also pointing this out.

I honestly think that this polictics section should only be accessible to certain people; I don't know how that will work in practice but the hate peddlers on this forum are doing a lot of damage to our very fragile co-existence.

Mekusxyz:

Did you conduct a poll to determine what is majority opinion?

SapeleGuy:

real4life- you didn't quite get the answer you were looking for.
My addition to onlytruth's response is that the north with one of the best refineries in the country are free to buy fuel from anywhere in the world.

Do you believe that the north can lay claim to the sea ports in the south as some other posters have?

real4life:

No but i have been following posts on nairaland long enough.


you are right on that point, what I am looking for is the "real motive" behind this plot to break Nigeria

You and I know that the North as a region is not the real problem of Nigeria. For one, the idea that the North has ruled the country for most of the time since independence does not hold much water. Those greedy military men do not have tribe, culture or religion, they are simply officers and everyone else is a bloody civilian. The North has suffered as much as (or even more than) the south since independence. We have been despoiled and battered by the military rulers, our civilian looters and corrupt government lobbying businessmen. The way forward in Nigeria is to do away with these criminals, seize their stolen cash and property and declare independence afresh. We must not waste our precious time and talent redesigning maps and looking for pins in the ocean.

Ooni of Ile-Ife Oba Okunade Sijuwade has blamed the disunity in Yorubaland on politicians who capitalised on the disagreement between Chief Obafemi Awolowo and Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola to sow the seed of discord in the Yoruba nation.

He said in his palace at the press conference organised to mark his 80th birthday anniversary which comes up on the 1st of January 2010.
Oba Sijuwade remarked that effort is being intensified to re-unite the race.

According to the monarch, Yoruba leaders all over the world will converge on Cotonou in the Benin Republic in March 2010 to discuss the way forward.

http://www.compassnews.net/Ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37592:oduduwa-state-not-a-do-or-die-matter-ooni-&catid=36:news&Itemid=702

IT was a global honour for the Ooni of Ife, Oba Okunade Sijuwade Olubuse II on Saturday, as dignitaries from all walks of life converged on his palace for the conferment of chieftaincy titles and a thanksgiving service which marked the grand finale of his 80th birthday anniversary.
The occasion, which attracted the presence of the President of the Republic of Benin, Dr. Thomas Boni Yayi and the Asantehene of Kumasi in Ghana, King Otumfuo Osei Tutu II, also saw dignitaries from other countries in attendance.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/03012010/news/news4.html

afemai:

As much as I agree that we have a debased, misnomer, deficient, treacherous, and perilous nation called Nigeria ,Publisher’s thread to me seems a comic relief…having read almost all the threads from that followed it I can only see the possibility of having a southern Nigeria as a mirage, the "quarrels" exhibited from the contributions to the thread between ONLYTRUTH and EmperorOlu on one hand and SEFAGO and DEDE1 on the other proved an interesting reading.
Emperorolu need to have some respect for other contributors and not thrive in invectives same applies to Dede1 though Sefago was pretty ready with a beautiful reply. Please BEAF should never refer to Afemai as one of the smallest ethnic groups.
your maps where great especially the one that depicted some semblance to Iraq,

real4life:

strange reply, are you really from the south? i dont think thats the majority opinion

Anyway thanks for the reasonable post

Mekusxyz:

Did you conduct a poll to determine what is majority opinion?

Beaf:

@real4life
The North has itself to blame in the current rounds of crisis facing the country. It is disenginous to hit out at the South whereas the threats to the nations unity are arising 100% from Northern attitudes.
The problems Southerners have with the North can be expressed in one word, "frustration".

[li]Forcing a unitary system on us, that is tearing the country apart[/li]
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becomrich;:

Beaf for the fist time you agree to break up.

look see it this way, the north is collecting oil money. if you give them a country. You can still continue to give them part of the share of oil revenue while they keep thier taxes and we keep ours. it is easy.

Katsumoto:

Sjeezy and SEFAGO
Please stop acting like Mekusxxx and WILYWILY. If you have to say something about other tribes, please stick to facts rather than perceived opinions.

tunku:

Disintegration is inevitable. All these Northern "one-nigeria" need to shut the hell up and start drawing up plans to live alone. The north can choke and immolate themselves with all the oil they want. I for one do not want a country dependent on one commodity. It would be nice to use the oil money properly but if these mallams don't want to give it up easily we should either give it to them or present a united front against them. real4life needs to shut it with its one nigeria bs.

real4life:

No but i have been following posts on nairaland long enough.


you are right on that point, what I am looking for is the "real motive" behind this plot to break Nigeria

You and I know that the North as a region is not the real problem of Nigeria. For one, the idea that the North has ruled the country for most of the time since independence does not hold much water. Those greedy military men do not have tribe, culture or religion, they are simply officers and everyone else is a bloody civilian. The North has suffered as much as (or even more than) the south since independence. We have been despoiled and battered by the military rulers, our civilian looters and corrupt government lobbying businessmen. The way forward in Nigeria is to do away with these criminals, seize their stolen cash and property and declare independence afresh. We must not waste our precious time and talent redesigning maps and looking for pins in the ocean.

Dede1:


The bolded statement is a feel-happy and also-said construct that holds no iota of truth. I guess you can convince the soldiers of northern region of Nigeria that executed the July 29, 1966 coup that there were no tribe, culture or religion, they were simply Nigerian officers.

Ironically, this same northern group of officers that precipitated the said coup has constituted into the ruling class of military men that ran Nigeria into the abysmal depth of socio-politico-economic point of no return with the help of cowed southern Nigerian counterparts.

The group picture of draft playing officers says more than words.

real4life:

I see where you are coming from, but it is really true that military officers stick together for their own. As human beings though there could be exceptions to this on rare occasions.
That coup was a special case, a dark period in Nigeria's history. Moreover, it was a reaction to an earlier coup staged January 1966 during which eminent Northerners were killed including 1. The prime minister, Tafawa Balewa 2. The premier of the northern region, Sir Ahmadu Bello 3. High ranking military officers from the north and even 4. Premier of western region, Samuel Akintola e.t.c. And you know the civil war followed shortly after. In short this topic is too sensitive, especially here so I prefer not to discuss it

Afam:

How convenient. You excused the actions of the soldiers who killed their own in July 66 but could not excuse the actions of the soldiers who killed their own and some civilians in Jan 66. Why the preferential treatment?

Funny enough, it seems the original topic has been relegated to the background.