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Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 3:55pm On Nov 13, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
Lolxxxxx,

can you now see tin line btw your manhaj and his jabata manhaj?. There is striking resemblance. He just say it as it is while you shy away from coming out of closet.

He doesn't believe all other sects are Muslims, period. Likewise you don't believe all other sects are rightly guided unless and until they become salafiya.

So you indirectly say all other sects are hell bound base on your own imaginary "saved sect". And what you said up there about la ilaha (negation) ila Allahu (affirmation), I don't know exactly what you tried to derived from that. Instead you had to come up with Deobandi believe that Allah is not upon His Arsh. This is a matter of tawil not necessarily aqeeda. Every muslim believe Quran exactly has it was revealed. That's how we recite on salat. But that doesn't mean there is no tawil or tafsir of Ayat. So what you raised is a matter of iktilaf on tawil.

Your problem is sect name, Deobandi. You may be surprised that Deobandis and Salafis are on the same page on some issues. So there is a very tiny line of ideology btw you and Mr. Plumber (jabata's mureedi). He's just crazier. That's all.

Islam › Re: Do You Still Sujud To Greet Creation Of Allah? by Empiree: 11:51am On Nov 13, 2018

Abuheekmat:
laughing[s] out loud..

why are you commenting on my post.

you are a plain kafir. plain one.. infact, you are worse than Christians and jews..

we are not talking about jalabi here. so just keep shut.. when your family are talking about magic, jalabi and other kufru.. join them to comment..

we are talking about islam here.. in which you know absolutely nothing about it..

and SUJUD.. go look up Arabic dictionary.. perhaps go look at the explanation of your oga in jalabi, baba adama ilorin(lahanatulah alaehi) ...

although the idiot later said that its allowed to sujud to greet[/s].

Politics › Re: Buhari Reacts To Ganduje Bribery Video by Empiree: 6:43am On Nov 13, 2018

Okoyeebo:
With or without your respect, Ganduje would be punished.

As long as justice is served, that's all we want.

Politics › Re: Buhari Reacts To Ganduje Bribery Video by Empiree: 6:38am On Nov 13, 2018

vastolord4:
Had it been a PDP governor.. the guy would have been sentenced to life

stop this partisan trash. This is number one problem you people have. You allow political party to cloud your sense

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Politics › Re: Buhari Reacts To Ganduje Bribery Video by Empiree: 2:06am On Nov 13, 2018

I will take him serious once the governor is found guilty by means of transparent judicial process. Once it is clear that he took bribe, agency in charge must ensure the governor resigns and his political career dented.

Not only that, there must be moral punishment which is jail to set example. Although I don't expect president to do this. It is agency job but president must follow the case with kin interest to ensure justice is served.

If this can get done, I'm sure it will shock some people and maybe this will be the beginning of setting things straight. I will truly respect Buhari for that.

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Islam › Re: Do You Still Sujud To Greet Creation Of Allah? by Empiree: 1:21am On Nov 13, 2018*

See Alhu arguing over what both of them got wrong. You both wrong. Alhusunnah continue to misinterpret Sujud/ruku. They use the meaning interchangeably.

Sujud, as someone said up there is exclusive to Allah. It is Haram to greet creation with sujud. Now, if a Muslim, out of emotion makes sujud out of respect to someone, we don't call him kafir. We consider it mistake as long as he too considers it mistake. So it is merely a sin. But it is not allowed in any form or shape to make sujud for creation whether for respect or not.

Therefore is no single English word for Sujud (placing forhead on the ground). Because there is no English for it, that's why they coined "prostration". Sujud in Yorubaland is ìfóríkánlè(placing forhead on the ground). We do not forikanle to greet people in Yorubaland. We either ruku or dòbálè (lie down) like the way we greet king.

Ruku is bowing and prostration. Which means a step of prayer in Islam where someone bows down (places hands on knees) and then goes to Sajdah (placing forhead on the ground).

So the whole nonsense that we can't dòbálè to greet is rubbish. And ruku is not exclusive to Allah. The entire world do ruku one way or another. It is human fitra. So we do ruku to greet in Yorubaland when we greet our elders. This Alhusunnah need to correct their rubbish and stop telling people not to prostrate (ruku) or (itekoko) to greet.

First picture is SUJUD (head touching ground) which is exclusive to none but Allah alone.

Second picture is rukuh(bowing or prostration). Every one does this or similar to it. This is not forbidden. What CHRISTIANs and Jews did for their rabbis and monks and that which a Sahaba saw them doing and did to the prophet, which Prophet (saw) forbade was Sujud not rukuh.

But people are using English translation to confuse the meanings. Very Wrong. So there's no dalil that forbids us from doing ìdòbálè for elders.

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Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 12:28am On Nov 13, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
rajiun. Go read all my comments from the beginning sir.

What's your relationship with this moniker?.

One of you has to be Mr. Plumber. The guy likes to clone his fellow Salafi. Are you. He's a clown. So are the the Mr. Plumber or he?.

Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 12:06am On Nov 13, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
first and foremost, I will take your insult as a compliment as I try to justify my stance with evidences, I will try as much as possible to comport myself like I have been doing as Islam never taught me to abuse my fellow muslims in a course of seeking truth. I gave u two good references where you said did ALLAH care about any sects to refute that statement of yours, you didn't say anything concerning that. ALLAH seriously warned us not divide like the other religions did (Christianity and Judaism), but unfortunately today, people have created a lot of sect and parties as opposed to ALLāh's instruction. Every of them are calling themselves Muslim and calling towards their party.

you quoted same verse I quote yet you are calling people to salafiya which is sect on its own. I have not mentioned any sect to call people as you did. And your salafiya deviated on some issues from mainstream. So you need to tell us what's "pure Islam".

Suffi called themselves a Muslim
Shias do same
Rafidhas do same
ikhwani do same
tableeghi do same

are these people not muslims?. What do you believe that they don't believe?. If some do magic among them, does that mean entire sects do magic?. Are there not people amongst them who called people away from magic?. Are all Salafis truly on salafiya?. Allah will not judge base on which sect you belong nor will He judge muslims collectively. This is the idea of Jews. The same idea you are teaching and promoting. You are indirectly saying that once a Muslim is Salafiya, he's saved because in your imaginary "saved sect" everyone therein believe the same way?. How would you know if some amongst Salafis are not involved in magic?. And how do you know everyone in other sects involved in magic?. I repeat, Allah will not judge you base on sect you belong. He judges base on iman and righteous conduct INDIVIDUALLY not collectively.

Now which of all these deviated from the pristine Islam, that is what a truth seeker should busy himself on, not just Shebi we are all Muslims, ALLAH warned us of division, but we now have many divisions today, is it not right a Muslim, a jannah seeking Muslim to know the pristine Islam? which if them is the original Islam which everyone deviated from.

How do you know you are not deviated?. What you may consider deviation may not be when it comes to scrunity. Other don't use Quran and Sunnah?. Problem is, your view is very narrow. Narrow minded people believe they are right and others are wrong.

your problem is the word SALAFIYYA, Lolxxxxx, I have explained that earlier and I won't get tired of doing so, SALAFIYYA get plenty names like Ahlus sunnah wal jamaa'ah, firqotun najiya, ahlul athar, ahlul hadeeth, if u don't understand the meaning of these names, u will just keep having headaches. They practice their Islam in accordance with what is contained in the Quran and Hadith of Rosulullah solallahu alaihi wasalam with the understanding of the companions, the companions, the generation that followed them (tabieen), and the generation that follows the tabieen (Tabi tabieen) are the three best generations as said by the prophet, they practice a pure pristine Islam without dilution. Those three generations are salaf (predecessor), we call them salafus soliheen (the righteous predecessors), we practise d deen d way dey practice it which is d way prophet practiced it, and as such SALAFIYYA came out.

So why do you have problem with others just because of their names?. Don't other use kitab and Sunnah, sahaba and tabin?. Did they reject all these?. What exactly is it that you do that they don't do?. Answer this question please?

Sorry, you don't need to tell me what salafiya means. We pray together all the time where I am. So what's your problem?

An attack on SALAFIYYA is an attack on the them like I said earlier we practice d den according to QUR'AN and sunnah bifahm salafus soliheen.

what is it that you practice that other muslims don't?.

So the Islam practiced by our predecessors is the correct and undiluted one, how is Salafiyya different from Islam now, can u tell me if you understand my explanation. If you don't, perhaps it may be because of my mentality downside.

by the time you get my point, you realize you are truly downside.

Muslim is the general name we all call ourselves, your aqeeda dictates where u belong either the correct Islam or deviated one. Shias that worship Ali also called themselves Muslim, or are they not Muslim to you?

see bold?. That's how you people go around with nonsense they feed you in your halqa. And when you said Shia, you lumped entire people. Allah named us muslims. Nothing will change this. Changing this to something else is bidiah. This is what Imran 103 protects(that we are all muslims). But you are trying to say a Muslim is not muslim enough unless he joins égbé Salafiya.

Let me come out clean to you. It is your scholar named sheik Albany (ra) who said that incantation that you all say today.

Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 9:40pm On Nov 12, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
This is why I said you should go back to read the Quran, did u just say "did ALLAH care about which group one belongs"? Have u forgotten the verse where ALLāh instructed us not to be divided like the other religions (Al imran Vs 103) and QUR'AN 30 Vs 31. You mean one can belong to any group ]right, Islam is Salafiyya and SALAFIYYA is Islam. take it or leave it.

this is why I hate dialogue with folks like you. Most of you people that call yourself Salafis are mentality downside. This is a fact. If you are reading with open mind already you would understand. At bold, where is your evidence?. I want your evidence from kitab and sunnah where this is mentioned. Don't lie about Allah.

When did I say other groups are not Muslims, I clearly mentioned in one of my comments that I didn't say they are not Muslims. Ina Lillahi wa Ina ilaihi rajiun. Go read all my comments from the beginning sir.

if they are muslims, why are you pestering them to be salafiya?. Did Allah say that?. Did Nabi Muhammad (saw) say that?.

In Sura Hajj 78, simply says "Allah named you (us) Muslims". Is being muslim not enough?. And you gonna tell me you are not doing taqleed?. Isn't your scholars that brainwashed you that you must be salafiya just to "purify" their salafi sect and condemn others?. And you do follow follow without seeking knowledge of what they taught you. Smh..

You agree others are muslims yet you are referring them to your sect. You think you are taking to a fool?. If by your definition of Salafiya you are the only one on haq, then, Qur'aniyun are more right than you.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:23pm On Nov 12, 2018

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Islam › Re: Justice: Insulting Prophet Muhammad Can Lead You In Jail by Empiree: 8:31pm On Nov 12, 2018*

usermane:
More pics.

Note, I'm not saying all Muslims are like these. Salman Taseer, a Pakistani governor who spoke out against Aasia Bibi's incarceration and the blasphemy law only to be assassinated in 2011, was Muslim. I'm a Muslim, yet I oppose blasphemy law.

I'm falsifying the myth that only tiny minority of Muslims are fanatics. These men protesting are not ISIS or Boko Haram. These are commoners, who work 9-5 by day, eat and sleep by night

I support blasphemy law. Govt of Pakistan displayed kind judicial process with the verdict to release the woman base on lack of evidence in their view or whatever it was. So I don't understand why the people took to the street to protest she must be hanged. But it is also their right to protest if they feel judge's decision was improper. Don't forget that.

This is none of the concern of other muslim countries. The alleged crime was committed in Pakistan and was subjected to Pakistani law.

There are hardened criminals in common law that are set free and also people that are innocent but they are jailed in common law, and people take to the street to protest their best interest.

Punishment for insulting Prophet (saw) doesn't have to be death. There are other punishments available like jail, community service etc. It is not always death death death. But definitely there should deterrent. If you have no problem with Germany for punishing someone for mocking holocaust, why should you have problem with blasphemy law in Islam?.

Germany set anti-holocaust law to deter offenders. What do you have to say about this?.

Also recall back in 2008 during Obama administration. There were sea pirates from Somalia. A group of young guys who hijacked American ship and detained the captain at ransom?. A movie titled "Captain America" was later made to portray the incident. My point is, when these young guys were arrested and were brought to America, mother of the youngest of them who perhaps was lured into the pirate business was crying so hard to have her son released. She made direct plea to then secretary of state, Hillary Clinton to release her son but Clinton said the crime was committed on American soil and his crime was subject to American judicial system. His mother was not asking for just release but to be punished in Somalia so that she would be able to see him. But being tried in America, she lost hope of seeing her son again. The boy was only btw 17 and 19 years old. He's in American jail since as far as I know. I'm not saying what he did was right. I'm saying if Pakistan govt feels someone committed crime on their soil like the lady, they have the right to enforce the law regardless of what you think. It is none of other muslim countries business. Just bcus this is religious related doesn't mean it is exceptional.

Btw, it is interesting that you called yourself muslim here. Hummm

Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 6:56pm On Nov 12, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
His father confirmed he is deobandi when he was called and he didn't refute it, what else do you want to hear. He went to deobandi school of thought in India after his study in madina university in Saudi, what else do you want. I hope taqleed will not push you guys into stray path. It is a confirmed report.

and?. What's wrong with that?. Did Allah care about which group or sect you are?. Allah cares about your iman and deeds. All these names are name sake and are seeking people into their group/sect. Or because you call yourself salafiya you are automatically alhujannah?

Do you know the number of scholars that have called him to correction. If he is not talking about aqeeda, what is he teaching people then, study mufti menk well yourself, he is only preaching morality which is easy to obtain in Christianity self.

This is all you can learn from him?. Did he not talk about eating Quran?. Did he not talk about seeking knowledge?.

It is very easy to know a scholar upon SALAFIYYA now, haba, I have hundred of his lecture, it is easy to know where he belongs.

Eni bad iwakuwa, ari irikuri. If you dig people's privacy, you will see what you not supposed to see. Therefore, Allah has not instructed you to police people. What you are saying in essence is that, no one is muslim unless and until he is salafiya. What nonsense is this?. Do you have dalil for this?. You critisize others of taqleed but you are doing it too.

Mufti menk sweet and smooth English and his stance on not condemning sects has lured u people away.

To condemn them for what exactly?. Has he condemned yours?

Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 5:54pm On Nov 12, 2018

caybee007:
How do you people know he is deobandi. Did he say so himself or because someone asked a sheikh about him going to preach in some deobandi gatherings. Fear Allah you this neo-salafi brothers. Why are you out to malign this brother. what has he done? Cant he make a mistake? and even he has made one, is maligning him through social media and broadcasting a some nonsense questions and answers about him the best way. The best way to correct a fellow muslim is to try and reach him according to the sunnah. Have you done that? And what made you think he is not on pure salafiyyah? Is it because you think he is not talking about aqeedah or what? Have you listened to all his lectures?............ Please fear Allah SWT.

Fact. They do not follow sunnah. They only speak "sunnah". They only criticize. At bold sums it all. The will never do this as long as their opposition is not from their manhaj. Fellow brothers just did same thing some days ago.

Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 4:25pm On Nov 12, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
Maybe when you read my comments with unbiased mind, you will understand my point. Go check my comments from the beginning, I said I still like him but, he speaks about goodness generally and truth be spoken, he's not balanced in his dawah.

Everyone in their area of speciality. There are many subjects in Islam. There are those specialized on figh. Those on lughat, those on aqeeda, those on ruh or Islamic spirituality, those on those on aqeeda of nature (law). Those on Islamic dietary. Those on Islamic medicine physical and spiritual. Those on Islamic family planning. Those on Islamic morals. Those on Islamic sciences and the list goes on. Which one are you on?. Do you have your area of discipline?. So instead of critisms, how about you pick your own subject of interest and treat it alongside his without conflicting his?.

We have different sects in Islam today where people are calling toward every of them, together with our understanding of the hadeeth of the prophet I quoted earli6, what has he said on these, can we join anyone we like? Someone who calls to goodness should address that, but he doesn't, he was asked this question in Malaysia, he dodged it. I know mufti menk very well.

You are calling people to your sect too, isn't?. Allah that revealed this Ayah 103 of sura imran knew there would be differences. So what's your own?. You need to study Hadith of 73 sects very well because it seems many of you built differences on that. The hadith is not encouraging sects in Islam. It is warning against it.

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:05pm On Nov 12, 2018

IdisuleOurOwn:
https://www.nairaland.com/4840607/terror-free-slovakia-completely-refuses-islam#72894194

What do you guys think is the cause of this?

It's simple now. If they don't recognize Islam, Islam doesn't recognize them. It is their country. They don't have to recognize Islam officially so long as they don't go inside individual muslim home and force them to renounce their religion.

I don't even recognize Slovakia. So the country is irrelevant. shocked

Travel › Re: Pls I Need Advice My Junior Brother Want To Travel To Us Or UK Or Canada For His by Empiree: 10:08pm On Nov 11, 2018

Illuminatus:
He should google the school he wants and learn what they need.

The decision of which school should depend on cost, locale and school’s reputation.

Most definitely, he’ll need to write the IELTS exam, obtain reference letters and even tests for things like TB. The order for these items will depend on the country and school.

Again, he needs to do big time research or seek the counsel of a travel agent.

that's it

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Travel › Re: Pls I Need Advice My Junior Brother Want To Travel To Us Or UK Or Canada For His by Empiree: 9:41pm On Nov 11, 2018

He has his tuition paid off?

He needs to contact University of his choice for details before making any move.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 12:01pm On Nov 11, 2018

Dominionng:
Ok I see reason now. Most folks charge dado rails on ceiling separately, but N4,000/sqm is fair for the volume since its being charged together.

ok. But this is POP. I don't necessarily have problems with POP quotetation. I'm worried about bricklayer part, where I have to buy 350 bags of cement. shocked

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 5:04am On Nov 11, 2018

SVPROJECT:
Can you give a proper description of the project?
Plastering and Rendering with 350 Bags sounds like a No No, The Sand too.

This ongoing project hasn’t taken more than 3 Trucks of Plaster Sand( Softsand) and 122 Bags of Cement, Scaffold didn’t cost me more than 90k with Workmanship.
That’s a 3 unit of 2bedroom Flat and 1 unit of 3bedroom flat here in Lagos.

actually I'm just looking at the quote properly but I knew something wasn't right when I got it. Bags of cement kinda high. I think the bricklayer gave wrong quote. I just feel like cement quote is close to building a bungalow. Lol

Zoom it and then envisage the other side you can see in the picture

Celebrities › Re: Bimbo Akisanya Rocks Cleveage-Baring Ankara Outfit (Photos) by Empiree: 12:58am On Nov 11, 2018

kennygee:
Why she white like Maleficent for the second pishur na?

Is anyone noticing the red marks on her hand, just below the sleeve in the first picture?

Is she a junkie?

You get eyes. Looks like she just got injection on that arm. Thats all i can come up with

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 11:15pm On Nov 10, 2018

Chekitaut:
all quote is high...

can you give quotation idea?

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 9:27pm On Nov 10, 2018

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:59pm On Nov 10, 2018

gabbytabby:
The sand is way too much. Double tipper is the 10 tonne that they call 15 tonne right and for my last project we used 4 plaster and 1 sharp.My cement was 120 and he has quoted 350 approximately 3 times that. Negotiate negotiate there is room for this.

As specified the rate for POP on average is about 3000 to 3500 per sq mtrs. Check the square meter also.

I suspect sand quote too.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:57pm On Nov 10, 2018

Adedward:
tell me the location, then l will tell u. If it OK or not, thanks

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Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 8:55pm On Nov 10, 2018*

AbdulHakeem44:
He belongs to a sect ( Deobandi), ALLAH had warned us not to be divided, but yet, today, Muslims keep creating and joining sect.

If you are a very good listener to mufti menk, you will discover he has some mistakes in his creed e. g not declaring his Manhaj, he so much believes in unity (he do disregard our differences in aqeeda), he hardly speak against the mushrikeen and innovators, 99% of his lectures are on general perspective, he hardly talk about tawheed.

For these reasons, he has many viewers worldwide because he doesn't condemn, he doesn't condemn shias, suffis and other astray sects.

I honestly don't know why you people can not be satisfied. The man tried to set balance but you still have issues with him.

Yet you said "may Allah guide him to pure salafiya". Isn't that sect on its own?. Does it mean there is misguided salafiya? You have evidence that Allah named us "salafiya" or salafiya has monopoly over Islam?. Are you saying other sects have no truth in them regardless how small it is?.

You said he belongs to sect of Deobandi but you belong to one too(salafi). Must he declare his manhaj?. Where is evidence from kitab and sunnah that he must declare his manhaj?.

The only requirement is "I am a Muslim"

Believe in shahada(Allah and His messanger)

Salat

Zakat

Ramadan

Hajj.

This is manhaj of MUSLIMS. Anyone who rejects any of these is not muslim. So recent lecture he delivered at large gathering was in Nigeria?

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 7:47pm On Nov 10, 2018

Dominionng:
For the POP, can't condemn the rate since the designs agreed are not attached. But for standard modern designs like the ones on these thread https://www.nairaland.com/4772973/nairalanders-pop-ceiling-project-anambra, we can do N3,500/sqm for that volume.

either of these designs and he said designs will be different for each section to seem fit.

He said anyone I pick they will do.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 7:01pm On Nov 10, 2018*

Chekitaut:
What is going on here, pls explain.

I think it is self explanatory.

Bricklayer is for plastering of the entire building and POP separate quote

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 6:16pm On Nov 10, 2018

Experienced homebuilders should say something on this. Are these prices fair for the square meters indicated?

Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 12:36pm On Nov 10, 2018

FriendNG:
I see! It's you that read. That's why you have been attacking me even before reading that the guy said inyas controls heaven. True or False?

okay, this got to be put to rest now. If you have any problems with them, take it to them on their page. And yes, you are right. I didn't read entire thing initially. But the first few lines i read were out of line to me. That's why I went to their page since Wednesday to tell them to review what they posted since October 27.

And when I said you didn't read, what I meant by that was that you said I'm hypocrite because I sent them message AFTER this argument. But in fact I indicated that the message was sent to them on a Wednesday at 7:30AM before we started back and forth argument. Up till now the guy didn't reply me privately until yesterday when he updated his status to explain himself. Not once I told you I supported the wordings used in the screenshots posted by abdelkabir. I have problem with the phrase too but I'm not gonna approach them the way you want me to. It doesn't solve anything.

Anyways, it is still better you reach out to them to correct them but definitely not with this approach you guys displayed here. They not gonna listen to you just as much as you won't listen to them. It doesn't solve anything. That was my point. There are guys like that on their page. Instead of communicating responsibly if they need to correct them, they retort to mockery and cursing a dead man who can't defend himself. So what do they achieved?. Nothing.

And remember how this started?. I simply posted what the group said regarding haqiqa you asked me few months ago. I saw their post on haqiqa that they distance themselves from them and that's what I posted and called your attention to it. And you had no problem with that until abdelkabir posted something to kick start this back to back argument because he had motives. Perhaps he should have contacted them instead of bringing it here?. It shows that he visits their page often. Sometimes they post sensible stuff and sometimes they don't.

Anyways, I'm not gonna get involved in this anymore.

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