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DoTheNeedful:
What you Musims don't understand is that there is a difference between everyday crime and killings done in the name of religion which is backed by verses in the holy book of that religion.
There are Chrisitan, Jewish and Muslim criminals everywhere stealing and doing all sorts of horrible things. No one will associate that with religion. But when someone kill people because he can back it up with verses of the holy texts of his religion then there is something fundamentally wrong with that religion. Islam has a bad reputation and rightly so. It spread through most part of the world more by swords than persuasion. It doesn't guarantee freedom of worship for non-Muslims and recommend killing of apostates. It is easy to associate such religion with violence.

Abeg save your trash

Crime is crime. Does it make any difference to their victims?

Rashduct4luv:
Simple Question! Interpret the verse! Stop whining!

what verse?

DoTheNeedful:
You are very silly. Does that look like ash to you? Ash Wednesday is once in a year. You are a bad representation of muhammed and your family by call him dindinrin. The last time I checked I didn't insult anyone in my initial post.

and you sound like Christians don't commit crimes or sins as if only muslims are bound to err. That enough is an insult on entire muslim population.


But if a news of a suicide bomber in beard and Muslim attire surfaces, if muslims deny his religious credibility you guys will insist he's muslim. Your hypocrisy stinks

DoTheNeedful:
Seun, I still believe you need to audit your mods and news should be properly reviewed before putting them on FP.

There is everything wrong with the title of this thread even if the thief is a Christian. Although I strongly believe she is not. The post of this new and the mod that brought it the fp are part of the problems with Nigeria.

You mean a "Christian lady" with black mark on her forehead and hijab moved freely in Sokoto to steal items? Common! You can do better.

What is the essence of this thread if I may ask?

As if Christians don't have mark on their forehand?. How about Ash Wednesday?. Dindinrin

AlBaqir:
# On a more serious note, WWE went to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia about 2 - 3 years ago with their entertainers in white Jalabia and Iqal. No be small thing faah. Watch out for Beyounce, Shakira and Rihanna soon.

oh didn't even know that

Rashduct4luv:
Both of you Soofi and Shi'i are similar! He is scrubbing your back now and you will need to scrub his back later. That i understand well.

Can you explain the verse!

you just making noise in the wilderness

I thought you are smarter than this. Don't make this sectarian things. If the religion is complete why was the need for tafsir, why was the need for fiqh, why did your 20th century scholars like Sheikh Albani and Sheikh Utheiymeen(ra) had to correct sahaba?. All these and many more happened AFTER ayah 3 of surah Maida was revealed.


Your definition of bidah and understanding of "religion is complete" is narrow and rigid. You started what you can't finish. Get off your high horse or quit your thread as usual.

^^^^^^^

I talk am before say the man go disappoint the sheeples wailing here like wounded birds

Na McDonald's entered saudi we dey complain before. Now WWE to go on live in the land of Rosulullah(saw)

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Rashduct4luv:
Nailed the coffin Which coffin? Is this a competition to you?

Bigotry means intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Personally, i don't hate you or your Shuyukh! I hate falshood. I hate your creed! And as Muslims we should all strive to uphold the truth!

Do you expect me to believe this?
Sidna Shaykh then said: Once you have contemplated this with your heart, you will know that no act of worship is equal to a single offering of the salat upon the Prophet, so how about someone who offers it many times?” What gracious favor he enjoys in the presence of Allah, and this is received each time the invocation is offered!

Which cloud is around my judgement on this sayings about Salaah al Faatih?

Sidna Shaykh has said: “As for Salat al-Fatih when I asked the Prophet about it, he informed me first of all, that it is worth six hundred thousand invocation of blessing (600,000). I also asked him, ‘For each invocation of blessing does one bird fly up toward heaven-that being the bird which has seventy thousand wings, as described in the Hadith, or do six hundred thousand (600,000) birds of that kind fly up each time, and is the reward of their glorification assigned to the invoker of blessing upon the Prophet?’ The Prophet replied: “Six hundred thousand (600,000) birds of that kind fly up each time.”

As for the number of each bird’s tongues, the Shaykh said, “The total number of its tongues is 1,780,000,700,000,000,000,000,000. Each tongue glorifies Allah in seventy thousand languages in a split second, and all of is reward is assigned each time to the invoker of blessing upon the Prophet. This applies to every prayer on the Prophet than Salat al-Fatih. As for the latter, it gives rise, each time, to six hundred thousand (600,000) birds of the kind described, as previously mentioned.” Sidna Shaykh then went on to say, “When I asked the Prophet about the authenticity of the Hadith, ‘The invocation of showering a prayer upon him (peace and blessing be upon him) one time, is worth the reward of four hundred (400) military campaigns (ghazwa) and every campaign is worth four hundred (400) pilgrimages (‘hajja).’ The Prophet replied: “It is indeed authentic”. I then asked the Prophet about the number of these campaigns: ‘Are four hundred (400) campaigns equivalent to a single offering of Salat al-Fatih, or are four hundred (400) campaigns equivalent to each of the six hundred thousand (600,000) invocations of blessing?’ The Prophet answered: Salat al-Fatih is worth six hundred thousand (600,000) invocations of showering a prayer upon him one, and each of the six hundred thousand (600,000) invocations of blessing is worth four hundred campaigns’!

Incredible liars from the pit of Hell![/s]

Albaqir just did another justice to you. You obviously don't understand what "religion is complete" means.

Now, kindly point of "ambiguity" from solati fatih below.

Again, na by force you read it?

A má sé solati fatih tí tí ta ma fí kú ni



Albaqir, you can see he doesn't understand sura Maida ayah 3. Not only him but bunch of them. His approach and definition of bidah opens door to major criticisms of many things including Aimmah (the fuqaha). It means Islamic jurisprudence is innovation. Simple and short. He doesn't make sense

adejaresalami1:
kings can be whatever they like for all I care.

Is having up to 18-19 wives not an adulterous act? ....ya empiree

That's none of my business. It is their life. My concern was only to vindicate Sheikh Ibrahim Niyas (ra) against allegations you and mrlolai cooked up in order to mock him.

If I didn't bring up the kings' multi-plural marriages you two would be mocking the Sheikh. God is good.

How many wives the kings had is btw them and their creator. When I said in my previous post that you don't make sense you considered it an offence not knowing I was going to drop a bombshell you couldn't defend.

adejaresalami1:
No I am not......King saud saying or doing can in no way be use to justify our religion.

Post something with reference to Quran and Hadith or leave me be

but you could had the nerve to poke fun of Sheikh inyas(ra). If not that I brought this up you and mrlolai would not back off. Next time stop sticking your nose in what you no not.

You don't even have be evidence that the sheikh had 75 children or multiple wives. So maybe you need to answer mrolai's question.

Are those Kings adulterers and criminals as he rightly said?.

Demmzy15:
Why would someone in his right state of mind climb a pole for barakah? What kind of pole is it by the way? Flag pole? Construction pole or what exactly?

Go and ask him

Meanwhile....

Nailed the coffin

Albaqir, the guy doesn't know what he's doing. His problem is pure hatred for Sufi shuyukh and sufism altogether. That's called bigotry. That's sickening. When someone is sick with bigotry and hatred for fellow humans, there will always be cloud around his judgement.

MrOlai:
Up to 18 - 19 wives?

You guys are criminals!

So are those Kings are also criminals and adulterers?. Stop being hypocritical,.buddy. I asked you to prove it but you didn't.


I have read 3 different articles about his personal life just now. There is no mentioned of 75 children and 18-19 wives to his credit. The only wife associated with him was Sheyyiha Bilqis who died last year. So for record he had 1 wife.

MrOlai:
[/quote]this is not evidence. My post was a stunt. You start delving into his personal life when you said:


[quote author=MrOlai post=67066301]Emp.iree, I want a clarification on something about Sheikh Niyas. I learnt the Sheikh had 75 kids. Is this true?

If yes, how many wives did he marry?

Assuming he married 4 wives, that means each wife gave birth to around 18 -19 kids.

I need clarification please.

And I replied:

Emp.iree:
How's this your business?. I don't know how many wives he had and I don't know how many kids he had. If it is true as you said, what do you want to derive from it?

MrOlai:
Are you saying the Sheikh married 18 - 19 wives?

If the Sheikh married 18 - 19 wives as you said, then, that's wrong! That's a criminal act in Islam! It is tantamount to adultery!

This is abdulaziz ibn said https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Saud



This baba love women for

Rashduct4luv:
Subhanallah! Which thread did I run from? And I asked you a simple question which you need to answer. "WHY THE NEED FOR SOLAAT AL FAATIH IF ISLAM WAS COMPLETE? ALL THE SAHABAHS WERE THE BEST GENERATION AFTER THE PROPHET YET THEY NEVER KNOW THIS SOLAAT, WAS YOUR SHEIKH SO SPECIAL? I JUST WANT YOU TO TELL ME ISLAM WAS INCOMPLETE. THAT THE PROPHET LEFT AN UNFINISHED DEEN SO THAT'S WHY HE GAVE SALAAT AL FAATIH TO SIDNA SHEIKH IN A DREAM.

albaqir already answered you up there. Stop being fanatic

MrOlai:
You said it.

where did I say it?

MrOlai:
When did King Abdullah become reference in Islam?

Whether King Abdullah or Sheikh Niyas, what they did is a criminal act in Islam!

It is tantamount to adultery!

This is what Allah(SWT) says:

"
وَاِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ اَلَّا تُقۡسِطُوۡا فِى الۡيَتٰمٰى فَانْكِحُوۡا مَا طَابَ لَـكُمۡ مِّنَ النِّسَآءِ مَثۡنٰى وَثُلٰثَ وَرُبٰعَ​ ​ۚ فَاِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ اَلَّا "تَعۡدِلُوۡا فَوَاحِدَةً اَوۡ مَا مَلَـكَتۡ اَيۡمَانُكُمۡ​ ؕ ذٰ لِكَ اَدۡنٰٓى اَلَّا تَعُوۡلُوۡا ؕ‏

hypocrite. Now that I brought this up you humbled yourself. If I didn't you would accused sheikh inyas. I will bring more if you don't mind your business. Stop sticking your nose in what you know not. Where your is evidence that sheikh Niyas(ra) had 75 children and up to 19 wives?

Shariah is deeper than you think. There are conditions prompting marriage to more than 4. You gonna have to visit alhusharia to learn that

MrOlai:
Are you saying the Sheikh married 18 - 19 wives?

If the Sheikh married 18 - 19 wives as you said, then, that's wrong! That's a criminal act in Islam! It is tantamount to adultery!

This is Saud bin Abdulaziz Al Saud

And Terry you have no proof that sheik inyas had 75 children and 18-19 wives

adejaresalami1 , are you feeling the bombshells yet?

MrOlai:
Are you saying the Sheikh married 18 - 19 wives?

If the Sheikh married 18 - 19 wives as you said, then, that's wrong! That's a criminal act in Islam! It is tantamount to adultery!

Good. I know this is where you driving at. Now so you pass the same judgement on this one too?.


This is King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. He married over 23 women

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_of_Saudi_Arabia

Rashduct4luv:
Don't bring another case here. Nothing concerns me yet with albaqir. This stuff is relevant cos it's a misguidance! I won't sleep until I expose this falsehood. You keep saying the text is sahih but you reject ambiguous! And What happens to Qur'an 5vs 3 that says Islam is complete. Why innovate a good deed after the prophet's death? Why does your Sidna Sheikh need to receive revelations? IS IT THAT ISLAM WAS INCOMPLETE BEFORE THE PROPHET'S DEATH?

You are being unreasonable right?. Who told you this is revelation?. Your sheikh bin Baz said the text is sahih. Good luck in trying to "expose". La go melo?

Lazy Youth. Get off your butt and go find work to do, buddy. Proof to us the text in solati fatih is innovation. Please do.

Solati fatih was solely for him when he had his dream and you can't tell me his dream was false because there are ahadith that back up TRUE DREAMS & TRUE VISIONS.

So he was not been greedy by sharing this solati after seeing it virtues. Is anyone forcing you to recite it?. What's your problem exactly?.

If you wanna go ahead and "expose" it, you will end up running away as usua because at the end of the day we would show you (as we did before) other practices, deeds and sayings we do that aren't directly from nabi(saw). And I can guarantee you that you will end up abandoning your own thread. You are known to do that.

And yes, albaqir has the right to involve. He tackled this before. Oh you scare to confront him because he will finish you just like that.

There are bunch of adʿiyah in Hadith that didn't even come directly from nabi and nabi (saw) said "this man has just praised Allah the best manner", suggesting that there is nothing wrong making up your own dua. So why cant any Muslim make up their own?. Is solati fatih outside of Quran?. Absolutely not.

Demmzy15:
Why would someone in the right state of mind climb a pole to seek Barakah? Does that even sound sane to you?

I have told you that's their problem. My concern is how is this Sheikh responsible for this?. What's is his business with someone climbing pole?.


Now, remember in the time of nabi(saw), there was this bizzare behavior as well when some sahaba were instructed to pour the cupping blood of the prophet (saw) in a hole and bury it?. What did sahabi do?. He drank the blood with intention of seeking baraka.

When he returned to the prophet (saw), he asked him what he did with the blood?. Sahabi said he drank it in order to seek his baraka. So nabi frawn at him and told him not to do that again.

When next nabi (saw) did hijama again and asked another sahabi to bury his blood far from the place, that sahabi also drank his blood but he told the prophet he buried it. Nabi reprimanded him and he confessed he drank it. Thereby the holy prophet (saw) smiled and faulted him not.

Sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Ashile(ra) said Hausa people are descendants of these type of sahaba by this virtue. It is weird but you can't do anything about it unfortunately. This is weird and too wild control.

The State of Palestine Shall Be Restored

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adejaresalami1:
You dare call me senseless?.....I'll save my response to that for another day.

Oya drop the bombshell that will expose you........opuror jatijati

All i want to know is that what is your motives and mrolai about 75 children and multiple wives he had if the account is correct?

Rashduct4luv:
Text is sound but contains ambiguity! Also we have discussed it's origin! What was revealed to our Prophet is sufficient! Someone from somewhere received Salaat al - Faatih claiming it was a revelation from the Prophet! This falsehood!

Rubbish. If text is sahih case is closed. Solati fatih simply sends blessings and praises in nabi. What more do you want?. Why argue over irrelevant stuff?. Na by force to recite it?. Person forced you to recite it?. Abeg, go take sleeping pill.

Albaqir already dealt with this issue on similar sawalat like saying "ajimohin". Who added that to the text?. Nabi?. None of you refuted that


Yeyeman

Demmzy15:
Why would even climb a pole to seek Barakah?!

how does this concern anyone?. It is their problem if they choose to climb mountain.

I am a muslim. You aren't comfortable unless you add that adjective?

^^^

Who told your sheikh that solati fatih was adopted at the expense of Ibrahimiya?. This is how they always make up falsehood

Thank God he said text in solati fatih is sound. So what's the problem. There are other short solati in hadith. Why the fuss over fatih.


Whether fatih or Ibrahimiya, who do them the most?. Isn't the Sufi people?.

Lazy Youth Seeking Relevance

Fundamentalist:
Since you believe he claims , why the noise , make your contribution or keep your fingers at bay

what's this one saying

Why is it that only you folks who claimed to follow the sunnah are the ones opening stupid threads and causing trouble?.

Does that mean you can't survive without have some sort of schism to your fellow muslims?.

Mr. Plumber claims to be upon Sunnah of salad but he's reek and unintelligent. His threads don't go far without hullabaloo.

Same with Rashduct4luv and other salafi people. Isn't this a storm proof against you guys. Your conversations always deprived of spiritual insight and iqma.

All or most of your threads and contributions always have to do with gidigbo gidigbo

Demmzy15:
Which one? Safawiyyah(since you're now having inclinations to Shiism), naqshabandi, Chistiyyah? Which exactly are you?

smh. I am Muslim

Demmzy15:
So Ahmadis or Qadyanis that refer to themselves as Muslims are truly Muslims because they say so? You see why your analogies fall against your own face!

you can tell this to Rashduct4luv who thinks some guys climbing pole seeking baraka are Sufi or anyone who claims so