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What Musa or the lady said are irrelevant. What matters right is for you to sign this. PEDITION is going VIRAL wordwide to shut Nigerian Christians up They are becoming prejudice and evil everyday

Can you help me out by signing this petition?
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manutdadex:
i dont giv a Bleep... Nobody is against muslim women going places... But rather ur religion is against women's growth

now you're revealing your true self. How does Islam against women? . With your eyes open or close, you see pictures I posted of women in school, law firm, real estate, etc. I was right when I said you guys are prejudice and hate. Kontinu

For instance y are ur men not covering their whole body too.

Òdę. If you don't know anything about Islam you honestly need to be quite. Men and women dress codes are different. Men can wear short pant up to their knees.

So women cant b turned on by seeing cute muslim brothers.. Relegate ur women to d back in mosques.. And u are looking for d cause of downgrades among muslim women.

smh, why are your men so high when they see women's behind?. Why are men generally, especially boys in this day and age flirt women? . What exactly do they see in women when say, "hey baby, you look good"?. In case y you dont know or you refuse to answer, they look at 2 things: boobs, and backsides. That's why Islam enjoins women to pray behind men. It has nothing to do with "backwardness" or "downgrades" as you put it. You are ill-informed. You need to learn and stop prejudice.


Islamic source:

"The best of the men's prayer-rows is the first and the worst the last, while the best of the women's prayer-rows is the last and the worst is the first." Muslim, the Sunan, and Ahmad from Abu Hurayra, Jabir, and Abu Sa`id al-Khudri, Allah be well-pleased with them.

Yes, Nigeria is a secular country but you got churches piled up with funny names

Oooh yea, nigeria is a SECULAR country.

Bunch of them don't even know what secularism means

It is funny how Christians throw around the phrase "Nigeria is a secular country", yet they have 10 churches in a building , They are Fools worth capital F. Going to church is a do or die affair, and the country is filled with funny church ads��

Bunch of hypocrites and Fools with Capital F

See now they violated second CONDITION to earn the deed to the Holy Land. Although this is not new.


The CONDITIONS given in Quran and their bible is to be Muslim and be righteous in conduct. LGBT is not good conduct. It is nasty. Nigerian Christians only support them for their hatred of Islam and muslims. They don't understand that Israel doesn't give a fig leaf about them and Christianity.

Don't be surprised when US and other countries finally move their embassies to Jerusalem, they will parade LGBT on the street of Qudus. The holy land will look like the Sin City [Las Vegas].

manutdadex:
what are u saying young man... Make ur point Abeg. Lol.. U guys always forming d victim... Its obvious u guys don't c reason with other people once it concerns islam. Swearing with d Bible or quran can't b placed in d same logical setting with being Called into bar.

smh....you ppl copy everything from your slave masters.

This are Muslims in America. In public schools, at work, news reporter, in the street etc.

Is Nigeria more secular than USA?.

Stop being prejudice

Joagbaje:
As much as i don’t agree with muttleylaff post . But he didn’t do wrong . It’s allowed to quote from a post the area of your interest or concern . He doesn’t have to quote entire post just as you are not under obligation to quote entire chapter of the Bible but the verse or the line of your interest

this is not edit he made

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I believe that the "conquest of constantinople" by Sultan Muhammad Fatih was just one of the historical moment. It was not the Divine conquest of constantinople prophesied by nabi Muhammad(saw). Read the hadith again.

At the time of Sultan Muhammad, Jerusalem was not even liberated (for the Jews) and Medinah still functioned in the affairs of muslims back then. Plus since Muhammad's conquest, enough time had lapsed for the malhama but we are still waiting for it.

AlBaqir:
Its just unfortunate that it is only when this kind of a thing happens that you see Nigerian Muslims coming together. R We fought it together and won.

except saheedbinaliyu, alfa Jabata stooge. He called anyone who supports the lady kafir, because according to him, "that's not hijab". The guys needs help urgently.

Vivere:
I do not have a problem with your petition. If it makes you feel high, then please go ahead and revel in it. It is totally unnecessary in my own view.

Absolutely necessary. You Christian people are becoming too prejudice and evil everyday. It is high time you all need to caught that sh!t off.

The Firdaus lady could have gone to court to challenge this issue, and if the judge saw the merit in her case, she could have won. That would have settled the issue without all the pointless controversy.

no it is not pointless. You have no justice system in Nigeria. The only way you listen is by getting masses to loud their voice. This is the beginning of court process.

As for Christianity and slavery, the point still remains that the slave masters were not all Christians, while the abolitionists were mostly Christians. Go figure.

who cares! for the fact that there are christian slavers, that defwars your argument.

If I type anti-slavery and Christianity into the Google search engine, guess what kind of results I would get? And if I typed a query on Islam and slavery intoe search engine, what kind of results would be thrown up

Google whatever you want. Your Christian slave masters gave us another dimension of slavery in modern world which is "financial guatanamo". That's where Nigeria is now DEBT because they realized they can not possibly, physically enslave people now so they did it again without touching you. Trace back loan and interest, it goes back to them. Their purpose of loaning 3rd world counties money is to enslave them. If they can not repay the loan, slave masters put them on nasty conditions. You should know that this also link to Christianity and Europeans. This is there in your Bible.

One of the articles that came up, actually stated that "Islam neither ignores nor condemns slavery. In fact, a large part of the Sharia is dedicated to the practice."

Now, was that writer right or wrong, I wonder??

Lol, don't even go there. Islam abolished slavery in stages. If some so called muslims still do it today, it is them not Islam. Slave trade existed before Islam i:e before advent of prophet muhammad (saw).. So I wonder why Judaism and Christianity didn't abolish it once and for all. They had almost 600years to do that before prophet muhammad came.

PEDITION is going VIRAL wordwide to shut Nigerian Christians up They are becoming prejudice and evil everyday

Can you help me out by signing this petition?
http://chn.ge/2BBY6Aq

Vivere:
Madam, do you actually know what happens within the Google search engine, when you type in a query? Please find out what happens in the background when you type a query, on Google. Consult the search engine reports.

Unless you have read each of the articles cited on that Google page you posted here, then I do not think it is right for you to jump to conclusions about the contents of each article....

sorry buddy, you can't change history. Christianity is synonymous to slavery. Don't safe it from it.

You can argue all day but look at the attachments. The petition has gone viral sound the world top sit up you Christians on hijab. I just signed. So sign yours.

European gave you Christianity but then rendered your Christian faith useless by taking out religion out of private life. That's the attempt you slaves are trying on Muslims in nigeria and it is not gonna work.


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Vivere:
Madam, you seem to love making a mountain out of a molehill. Initially, you asserted that the colonial masters were all Christians. Your error was pointed out, and you turned round to claim I will "not let you vindicate christianity." Who is vindicating Christianity? I am just setting the records straight.

Secondly, you claimed " What is widely known macro wise is white christians are slave masters backed by their Bible, period." Again, you have erred by blandly generalising and grouping all those slave masters as Christians.

Was a survey conducted to ascertain this during the slave trade era? Please paste the results here. What is widely known is that most of those slave merchants were non-Christians, while the abolitionists of the inhuman trade, were mostly Christians.

The Western countries that banned religious dressing like the niqab, burqa etc., had some opposition, but the bans are still firmly in place. It is the nature of democratic societies to protest and debate everything, but at the end of the day, the matter is put to vote, a consensus is reached and a law is passed.

Except for a few isolated cases, many of those bans have not been revoked. What does that tell you? Their security measures are more important, that a piece of religious clothing. The hood does not make the monk, in the same way the hijab does not make you a good or bad Muslim. It is your actions, piety and soul that matters.

A few more countries such as Germany are even considering placing a ban on religious clothing, for security reasons. Go and check. In Italy, a woman was asked to remove her hijab as part of security measures, at a certain airport. She refused. They denied her access to the plane. She decided to take her flight at another airport, within the same country. When the airport personnel at the 2nd airport also asked her to remove her hijab, she complied. What does that tell you?

As for your US, which you keep waving as a standard, kindly note that not all Muslims share your view. The terrorist that screams Allahu Akbar like you said, before going on a bombing spree does not claim to be acting in the name of any other religion, but Islam. So what do you want the public to call him? An Amadioha worshipper?

In the US, it has been said that female Muslim soldiers serving in the US military, are allowed to wear religious clothing when in uniform, so long as their clothing does not pose: health or safety hazard, impair the use of weapons or machinery, or impairs the accomplishment of the mission at hand. So even their constitutional rights, have limits, and there are exceptions to the rule.

you have answered everything in your own post. Nothing else to add. However, i should point out that you first appeared to "not defending christianity but this post of yours raised red flag. On slave masters, upon typing the phrase, it linked christianity straight up without even opening them yet. The least you can say it they aren't christians of Paul but still does not vindicate christianity. Slave masters used the Bible one way or another to enslave africans. Thats the point.

manutdadex:
Publicly!!! Nice... Being Calld into bar is not a public exercise.it has its code and conduct and for people who have passed d bar exams. She is qualified to be swore in but she flaunt a a rule abt dress code. She knew what she did. If as a lawyer she has disobeyed a law bidding all lawyers or defiled d institution that she is hoping to be a part of. Only God knows wat will happen if she becomes a judge.

my friend, shut up and do away with religious bigotry. Why does Nigerian constitution allows people to swear on Quran and Bible?. If that's allowed, what's stopping her from wearing hijab?. Bar is not private but govt. So get lost

manutdadex:
so if she removes d ijab she has stopped being a Muslim? If yes.. Then i c reason y u f
Protest over cartoons and things that don't matter. Today if someone says nobody must carry a Bible... I wont but i always a copy in my head... Religion is a thing of d heart.

That's not the point. ^^


This is the point

The fact that it is clearly stated in the constitution that one is free to display or practice his religious belief publicly is a very strong evidence to defend the lady. It is those that denied the lady to exercise the freedom of showcasing her faith that have nothing to hold on to.

Vivere:
Can you see the mistake you are making? You are assuming that all the colonial masters were Christians. That is an error. Some were Christians and those were the first set of missionaries. The next set were business men and merchants, so they opened up trade frontiers with the colonies, on behalf of their govt. Alongside this set were teachers and medical doctors. So these ones promoted education and medicine. A large number of the.merchants, doctors etc were atheists. Go back into history, and check. They engaged in slave trade and oppressive acts.

You preaching to me?. I will not let you vindicate christianity.You can come up with all types of excuses. Their footprints are on Africa.

I dont deny that there were Atheists amongst them. What is widely known macro wise is white christians are slave masters backed by their Bible, period. @underlined, it is the same way you non-muslims see anyone who shout "Allahu Akbar" and then blow up something, you quickly tag him a muslim. What goes around comes around. Deal With It

You keep holding up New York as your standard, yet there are many Muslims in New York who do not wear the hijab, and there are several non-Muslims who do not like the hijab or support it. The authorities are merely trying to protect everybody's rights - both Muslims and nob-Muslims, alike.

Now you are talking. Hence, Nigeria can not be more secular than them. Any attempt by any nigerian christian to discriminate against muslim women who chose to wear hijab, is a violation of the nigerian constitution. If Nigerian officials are sworn in on Quran and Bible, who the hell has the nerve to criticize hijab?

Even at that, there are some grey areas where such clothing like niqab, burqa etc, needs to be shifted aside, to allow for easy identification.

I don't dispute this. For instance airport etc. But not Bar for crying out loud.I have posted picture of a muslim Judge in New York

When it comes to constitutional rights, you should realise that the freedom to swing your arms, ends where the next person's nose, begins. Rights are not absolute, and do not occur in isolation.

Tell this to your fellow believers. Better still, go to America and tell them that "rights" aren't absolute. They will give you middle finger You know what that means, dont you?

Tomorrow, the same New York authorities might wake up to ban it, if they feel it constitutes a security risk.

What can be more risky than 9/11?. Hijab survived

A few western European countries have banned the burqa and niqab, for security reasons. Yet, you fail to mention those ones. Is it because they prefer to uphold security above religious preferences?

Their ban is not absolute either. They are having internal struggles with the ban from opposition parties.

As for the subway authorities in New York, constitutional rights do NOT play a part in their acceptance of any advert. I have seen an ad promoting Buddhist philosophy on the subway, before. The acceptance of adverts, is driven by pecuniary gains - no more, no less!

As i have said before, all you have to do is board a plane to NY and remove hijab from a woman on the street and see what happens. In nigeria, christians still criticize hijabi on the street and in school. On the other hand, many muslim women wear hijab in schools in new york and it is considered constitutional right, just as much as the right to own guns

This recognition of Qudus (Jerusalem) as the undivided capital of Israel makes it so clear the timeline of events narrated in a hadith in sunan Abu Dawud and the 'conquest of constantinople' which majority muslims believe already came to pass i:e the fulfilment by Ottoman Sultan Muhammad. This is false. I remembered me and Demmzy once, yanni, debated this issue before.

I quoted the hadith before and will quote it again. The Flourishing State of Jerusalem will be When Yathrib is in Ruins


The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib is in ruins, the ruined state of Yathrib will be when the great war comes, the outbreak of the great war will be at the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Constantinople when the Dajjal (Antichrist) comes forth. He (the Prophet) struck his thigh or his shoulder with his hand and said: This is as true as you are here or as you are sitting (meaning Mu'adh ibn Jabal). [Sunan Abi Dawud - Book of Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim)


Another translation


The Prophet ﻰﻠﺻ ﻪﻠﻟا ﻪﻴﻠﻋ ﻢﻠﺳو said: "Omran (Re-building/flourishing/habitation) of Bayt al-Maqdis will be (lead to) Kharab (the desolation) of Yathrib (Madina in Saudi Arabia). The desolation of Yathrib will be (lead to) the outbreak of the Big Battle (with the christianss). The outbreak of the Big Battle will be (lead to) the conquest of Constantinople (Istanbul). The conquest of Constantinople will be (lead to) the coming of Dajjal. Then, ... said: This is as real as you (Mu'az ibn Jabal) are here or you are sitting." (Abu Dawud)


Writer of the second translation wrote:

"Notice the Hadith talks about Bayt al-Maqdis (the noble sanctuary or what is called today temple mount) not the city of Jerusalem as during the time of the prophet the actual city under Byzentines were known by it's Roman name i.e. Aelia (Aelia Capitolina to be precise). What is the exact meaning of the word Omran ? Is it re-building, flourishing, habitation or something else?"

Given that ^, i am afraid holy masjid in Jerusalem may be demolished by Israel. This is the actual arabi text


"‏ عُمْرَانُ بَيْتِ الْمَقْدِسِ خَرَابُ يَثْرِبَ وَخَرَابُ يَثْرِبَ خُرُوجُ الْمَلْحَمَةِ وَخُرُوجُ الْمَلْحَمَةِ فَتْحُ قُسْطَنْطِينِيَّةَ وَفَتْحُ الْقُسْطَنْطِينِيَّةِ خُرُوجُ الدَّجَّالِ ‏"

So we can see now that "conquest of constantinople" has yet to happen. It is underway. What happened in the time of Ottoman was coincidental. BIG WAR IS COMING.........

Diademk07:
Funny how you say wig is euphemism to christianity. Lol. Wig is actually foreign hairs, not Christianity, those hair could be made from Indian for all we care!

And yeah, I agree that there's no use conforming to any set of colonial rules, be either Arabic or the british! Africa cultures must be back in full force. A very colourful "gele" would suffice for all party.

Go ahead....whatever rock your boat. Talk is cheap. Just wear gele on Bar gown to the Bar already and post your picture here

Diademk07:
Why are you crying nah?

NBA says no wearing on the head, you and your sister cried.

And I suggested colourful 'gele', a proper africa wear, you still dey cry.. Note that this 'gele' also addresses the Nuns issue!

I repeat, stupid arabic wear will not be allowed in our institution! Cry me an Ocean.

It doesnt take degree to figure out there is hatred for islam and muslims in your heart. Again, anyone wants to wear gele on their gown can go ahead. Talk is cheap. Just do it already. Let me tell you again that Hijab is not Arabic thing. Dont you get it?. It is a universal religious command. If it is arab thing, why do White muslims wear it?. Why do Asian muslims wear it?. Why do Caribbean people wear it?

Hijab is NOT arab culture but Islamic culture

Vivere:
The wig was introduced by the colonial masters, but were they all Christians? Many of them were atheists. As for the subway adverts, it is about raising the revenue base of the subway, and not about constitutional rights. They did not accept to put up those ads, based on constitutional rights, but to raise money. Do you get it now?

Lol, Atheists?. Too late to come up with that crap. Atheists yet they handed us christianity?. You are incredible. Fact that you as some point agreed that wig is to christianity, hence, the implication is they forced muslim too to embrace christian headrag. Again, i dont doubt it is about money. But if you wanna know constitutional rights are involved, all you have to do is take off muslim woman's hijab on the street of the street of New York and see what happens. Your ass will be locked up. Besides, don't you see where it says about discriminations?

Diademk07:
I really don't understand what you're trying to say..

Why exactly did you want to permit an arabic wear in our institution?

Your women want a head covering in their call to bar and I suggested "gele", a proper african cultural garb yet you keep on gnashing your teeth. What else do you want me to do? Yeye.

Sorry, buddy, if you are a women and a lawyer or anyone you know decides to put on gele on thier gown, it is their choice if that makes you comfortable. Gele and hijab are simply headcover with difference in their appearances. A muslim woman decided to wear hijab on her gown, how is that your business?. I am sure 100% if a muslim woman wore gele to the Bar, you would still have something negative to say.

Vivere:
People can advertise anything in the subway in New York. It doesn't mean anything. There are spaces meant for adverts on the wall, and once you pay the required fees then you are free to put up your ad, once it does not conflict with the advertising codes. It is simply a source of revenue for them.

It does not mean that the New York subway authorities endorse the message in your advert, neither does it mean they agree with its contents, or they would adopt it.

If an IFA worshipper were to place an ad on the subway of the New York Train platform, it would be accepted. In fact, it might just be placed side by side with the advert on the niqab.

For your info, the niqab has been banned by France, Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium and a few towns in Italy.

my point is communicated. Wig used by nigerian lawyer was introduced by the colonial masters, and colonial masters are christians. Hence, wig is euphemism to christianity. For subway, you are just correct which suggests that it is still about constitutional right. Now your point is?

Diademk07:
If you want to become an Arab, go live in saudi!

We're africans, not arabs! It's not by force!

As i said before, ode nie. You are now sounding more like islamophobes in the West @underlined



Now this should further resolves your dilemma.

AgentOfAllah:
It's a poor example, sorry! I am not arguing against uniformity, I am arguing for the accommodation of religious diversity in the national institutions of a secular country. The Nigerian army is just as culpable as the law school in this regard. Look, hijab is clearly something that some religious people feel very strongly about. It takes nothing, absolutely nothing away from uniformity, nor does it change the overall character of your uniform anymore than wearing a wig, or having a mole on your face does.


Nothing! People should be able to put on whatever is sacred to them, unless it is obviously impractical. You cannot send a deeperlife devotee to war in a long skirt, for instance.

See, I'm not debating the army, so forgive my reluctance to go down a rabbit hole that will only prolong this conversation unnecessarily. Firdaus is not a soldier, she is a lawyer, and she is fighting for her right in her chosen profession. If a hijabi lady who wishes to join the army comes out to fight for her right to wear the hijab while practicing her profession, I will give her my full support! Such anachronistic and discriminatory rules have no place in the national institutions of a secular country.

Diademk07:
What's this one saying? Where did I mention that Islam is only arabic?

I stated that such Arabic dressings are not permitted in our institution. Christianity originated from the Jews, right? Did you see Christians wear a jewish attire to serve God? Did they speak in Jewish language to commune with God?

Is God not supposed to have created an africa man as well? How come you can't display your cultural garbs and your very essence before the God that made you that way? Unless you're saying Allah is impartial!

You confused?. As i said before, Ode nie

ShaheedBinAliyu:
AM HARSH ON KUFARS

You do so with no iota of knowledge

Diademk07:
Well, it's for Arab and Jews, or anyone who loves such attires! After all, no one's stopping your Muslim sisters from wearing their niqa on the streets! But it's a no no in our institution, now you can go and slam your head on a rock if you're pained!

I have said it, Ode nie

Diademk07:
What's this one talking about?

Look closely, those are arabs! I don't care what arab wear on their heads, they can even come to live in Nigeria with such attires like they did in America but what I won't permit is any stupid arabic wears in our institution!

If women wants covering on their head in Law, let them tie gele! Now, that's a proper africa culture! Yeye.

When i said you are ill informed, perhaps, you should know I was right. Who told you Islam is arab culture?. Is that black woman, who is a judge in New York Arab too?. Ode ni e.

And whether it is gele or hijab, it is simply headscarf for muslim women. How many nigerian christians even wear gele?. Ode nie

ShaheedBinAliyu:
NON IN MY AREA. I LIVE IN OSHOGBO but i do listen to jabata and his students lectures

Abalajo That's why you post trash.

Diademk07:
You're the one in need of an exposure!

We will not permit any dirty arabic wear in our institution!

This is niqa (fave veil) currently being advertised by new York authority in theIr subway platform. Who the hell is Nigeria?