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Islam › Re: How To Ccelebrate The Prophet's (peace Be Upon Him) Birthday(maulid) by Empiree: 9:39pm On Dec 05, 2017

People Need To Ponder Over This Hadith.

Hadith Doesn't Have To Mention Mawlid By Name. ..that's elementary methodology. It is the same way Qur'an doesn't use Tawheed

Car Talk › Re: Ford Sues John Cena For Selling High-End Car Within A Month Of Purchase by Empiree: 3:47pm On Dec 05, 2017*

charlsecy:
You didn't have to assume.

well, you are right but I'm just telling you that's how it works. You go to car dealer, choose car you want, put application on it, your credit is pulled, if you qualified you are approved. If your want to put down payment or zero down, no problem. It means you finance(purchased) the car and since your name is on it, it is yours. However, bank or finance company owns lien on the title.

The usual agreement is you have to own the car for at least 18 months to 24 months before you can upgrade. You can't just say you don't want the car anymore and want to exchange it for another one. They would tell you to wait. So that's why I thought he breeched the contract by selling the car less than 2yrs. I know what I'm talking about. They don't have to say he financed the car or leased it, perhaps, out of respect for him.

Truth be told, I'm not 100% in his case bcuz I don't know how he would sell the car if the title is not cleared or dealer still own lien on it. That's where I'm a little bothered. But if he paid cash for the whole thing, he has right to do whatever he wants with it. They simply did not want to publicize his financing in my opinion. If he owned the car 100%, they have no business with him. But they come after him to get their fair share shows that it was a financed car, buddy.

He was trying to do them "WAYO"

Maybe he was born in Nigeria cool

Car Talk › Re: Ford Sues John Cena For Selling High-End Car Within A Month Of Purchase by Empiree: 11:36am On Dec 05, 2017

charlsecy:
No such indication in the article.

they didn't have to

Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 11:02am On Dec 05, 2017

Abutwins,

I won't even take you serious on this issue at all. But alhamdulilah you said milad nabi involves dhikr contrary to your fellow brothers who always cooked up rubbish.

So then, the hadith you quoted about Allah being near when we supplicates, very well then. When grand muftis in Saudi supplicate in large gathering like Dua Qunut, he does so in silent or loud voice?. That's your homework. The moment you deny that I will bring up proofs. If they make loud dua and loud dhikr, they don't know Allah is close to them?. Oya, give another excuse like you gave Quran competition.

You don't make sense (no offense intended). The ayah you quoted, is quiet suitable for individual or small gathering. Mawlid gathering is large just like hajj is large. There are those who would have to learn the phrases. That's not possible with silent dhikr.

Anyways, since you claimed milad is bidah, when are you going to start practicing sunnah supported in the hadith of sunnan Nasai I posted earlier?.

Again, nawafil doesn't have to be specific act of worship. They are flexible. The only condition is they must abide by sharia. Hadith Qudsi already refutes you where Allah said

"My servants draw near to me through OBLIGATORY ACT OF WORSHIP which I ENJOINED on him. My servant also draw to me through VOLUNTARY ACT OF WORSHIP"

I didn't quote this ^ verbatim. Just paraphrased. It indicates that nawafil doesn't have to be specific way bcus they have no specific legislation. Same with Quran recitation. Did nabi (saw) give SPECIFIC instructions or you may made up your own.

And then you basically ignored all ahadith with respect to loud dhikr, forgetting that there is another hadith where the prophet (saw) called in S. ALI (ra) and some sahaba, asked him if he has wudhu?. He said yes. He said sit down and say lailaha ila Allah. Upon saying that the prophet (saw) "raise your voice".

I can't quote at the moment cuz I'm mobile. So calling ppl who disgree with you "alhubidah" is nothing but rubbish. I already seen flaws in similar cases of yours during elds. That's why I am not taking you serious. Keep confusing yourself

Car Talk › Re: Ford Sues John Cena For Selling High-End Car Within A Month Of Purchase by Empiree: 6:16am On Dec 05, 2017

fergieboy:
But him don buy the car now... I'm not understanding

Samusu:
No be him car?

iWasNotHere:
It seems Ford people are Mad.
It's his Car now, what's their business

It means the car was FINANCED most likely. Cena probably doesn't fully own the title yet at the time of sale. Just bcuz it says it is his car doesn't mean it is fully paid for.

Purchasing a car in a country infested with interest (capitalism) doesn't mean the car is his. In that case Cena breached the contract.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:54pm On Dec 04, 2017

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Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 5:43pm On Dec 04, 2017

AbuTwins:
Mammanbawa and others,

Do not be deceived by Empiree and AlBaqir.

The former is (Bid'iaphilic) a lover of Bid'ia and the later is a Shia (Hater of Most of the Sahabahs).

I think you know the capabilities of each of them since you are from the north!

...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it) , and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment. 59:7

This is how you guys go around tagging people alhbida'h. Your first post in response to me alone shows that you dont even understand what this thread is about. And since you want to tag me alhbidah, all i need is to provide evidence of loud dhikr. SAY NO MORE

From Uqba ibn Aamir (RA): "The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said of a man named Dhu al-bijadayn: "Innahu awwah He is a man who says ah! a lot" This is because he was a man abundant in his dhikr of Allah in Qur'an-recitation, and he would raise his voice high when supplicating.[Musnad Ahmed (5/161), Tafsir Ibn Kathir (4/193)] – Imam al-Haythami (rah) declared it's chain to be “HASSAN” in Majma uz Zawaid (9/616)]

Narrated by Jabir bin Abdullah (RA): The people saw fire (light) in the graveyard and they went there. They found that the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) was in a grave and he was saying: Give me your companion. This was a man who used to "RAISE HIS VOICE" while mentioning the name of Allah. [Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah Abu Dawood Hadith # 3164, Published by Maktaba al Asriyyah, Beirut, Lebanon]

Imam Hakim has mentioned this in the chapter : “Virtue of raising the voice in Dhikr and he declared it "Sahih on the criteria of Sahih Muslim" [Mustadrak ala Sahihayn (1/522)]

Now since you chose to cite your favorite sheikh ul islam (whoever that was), here is one shaykh (Mujaddad wal Imam Jalal-ud-din Suyuti (rah) also in favor of LOUD DHIKR in his verdict. He was asked a question about loud dhikr

Question:

All praises and thanks are due to Allah & He suffices. Peace be upon His chosen servants. You asked may Allah honor you, concerning "THE SUFI PRACTICE" of setting up circles in the masajid for the purpose of dhikr, in particular the "RAISING OF THEIR VOICES" when reciting La ILaha IL Allah. Is this (practice) hated or disliked (makrūh) or otherwise?

Answer:

In fact, "THERE IS NOTHING DISLIKED IN IT AT ALL" Many hadiths of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) have actually suggested that open and loud dhikr (al jahr bi al-dhikr) is preferred. There are also those ahadīth that justify silent dhikr. Both these views are correct in relation to the varying nature of individuals. [As-Suyuti in Al Hawi lil Fatawi, Volume # 1, Page No. 422]

There are more evidences. The largest and biggest LOUD DHIkR in world is at Ka'aba in Makkah. If you can refute that you can refute all. But kindly not derail this thread if you have nothing to counter mawlid ITSELF. Jazakallah Khayran

Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 5:26pm On Dec 04, 2017

AbuTwins:
And i should leave the opinion of Sheikhul islam and follow the opinion of Ahlu bid'ah right?

The relevance is that Allah instructed His remembrance to be silent, done humbly, within ourselves (not together in congregation as you do Mawlid and others). So the hadith you quoted was not for us.

brother, you also quoted one hadith. There are other narrations about loud dhikr. Quran and sunnah favors both. Loud dhikr only needs to be done appreciately. Why don't you tell them at kaaba to do dhikr silently when they tawaf?.

However, this is not entirely about dhikhr. Argument here is about permmibility of mawlid. So I have no idea how you got into loud or silent dhikh. Besides, it is still opinion of sheikh you referred to. There are tons of shuyukh, mawlana, alfas, khateeb, imams mufti with difference of options. Why do you guys love tagging people who against your ideal "alhubida"?.

Maybe competetors should be silent too during Quran competetion , since that's dhikr too. How about that?.

Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 4:41pm On Dec 04, 2017

^^^^

Sir, I don't understand what your problem is. What and how exactly is your input up there correlates with narration in sunnan Nasai?. Besides, whatever you posted was opinion of sheikh ul-islam, whoever that is.

The hadith quoted in Sunnan Nasai stated the reason they gathered. That's bottom line of the argument. Are you ready to revive that sunnan bcuz I don't understand what I "misrepresentated"?.

Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 4:14pm On Dec 04, 2017

^^^

Your input doesn't contradict my post so far. And I have not said anything in agreement with "free mixing". Bottom line in this line of argument is permmibility of singing and dancing, which they claimed is forbidden.

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 3:40pm On Dec 04, 2017*

It Is That Time Of The Year Again shocked

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 3:38pm On Dec 04, 2017

When Was The Last Time You Punished Mango Like This huh

Christianity Etc › Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Empiree: 3:29am On Dec 04, 2017

Goshen360:
gns

Adeboye is fraud. Did you watch his church service that circulated last week where he demanded One billion naira {#1,000,000,000} to receive "blessing"?. He goes further to say whoever can not afford that should come up with One Hundred Million {#100,000,000} shocked

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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Need A Teaching Job @ Muslim School by Empiree: 9:56pm On Dec 03, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
If you weRe a muslim, you would understand. .p

my post is clear. You contradicted yourself, buddy angry

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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Need A Teaching Job @ Muslim School by Empiree: 9:55pm On Dec 03, 2017

tosbobby:
Shaheed is not a professional.
What is the big deal or should i say his heart is polluted.
Do not forget, respect is reciprocal.
Do not conflict moral with belief.
Lets call a spade a spade.
Anyway, am sorry if my statement look hostile.

You think i mind him?. I am trying to get him to think

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Need A Teaching Job @ Muslim School by Empiree: 9:37pm On Dec 03, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
I STAND because that is what ALLAH commanded. that is what rosul practised and commanded and that is what every human who ls a muslim did to greet him back then and that is what every muslim does to greet themselves till date. .and will be . .FOREVER

But standing here to greet people at work is disbelief, ehen? Are you okay at all?

ShaheedBinAliyu:
. standing up to respect a human is disbelief.., standing up from a seat for another person to sit as a sign of respect is also disbelief...

You will have hard time getting employment. Thats not a curse but my observation

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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Need A Teaching Job @ Muslim School by Empiree: 9:26pm On Dec 03, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Exactly the way ALLAH told us to. Explained by rosul and also followed by sahabahs . . salamah to them . . atimes i do say ekaro or other weather greetingx

Do you stand up to say salaaam or you sit or you bend which one?

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Need A Teaching Job @ Muslim School by Empiree: 9:12pm On Dec 03, 2017

How do you greet your parents? ^^^

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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Need A Teaching Job @ Muslim School by Empiree: 8:25pm On Dec 03, 2017

zionmde:
A mass Com HND graduate who cannot to write a complete article in English. Anyway u can only be qualified to teach in an Islamic school as u indicated. After all I don't think any secular school will employ someone like u.

A Whole HND graduate opening his mouth to say he wants to teach in any Islamic school. Mtchwww

Did he sleep your wife to deserve this bashing?. You wicked ooo

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Islam › Re: What Will You Gain If You Die A Member Of A Firoq? by Empiree: 8:02pm On Dec 03, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Egbon e fi su sile. sufi ti o exist during rosul era & ALLAH has completed islam ...according to suratul maidah verse 3...during rosul era ni sura yen so kale. ibo ni e ti ri sufi

Islam › Re: Igbo Woman Reveals The Lady Who Made Her Convert To Islam. Photos by Empiree: 7:11pm On Dec 03, 2017

olasaad:
Seriously take it off

Now i am satisfied sad

Islam › Re: Igbo Woman Reveals The Lady Who Made Her Convert To Islam. Photos by Empiree: 7:05pm On Dec 03, 2017

Islam › Re: Igbo Woman Reveals The Lady Who Made Her Convert To Islam. Photos by Empiree: 6:48pm On Dec 03, 2017*

Islam › Re: What Will You Gain If You Die A Member Of A Firoq? by Empiree: 4:02pm On Dec 03, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Egbon, u know that sufi is not islam, u know sufi is different religion. i just dont understand why you are stil on it and still defending it. anabi is n0t sufi, saabe is not sufi. .tabin not sufi. tabintabin not sufi . . . bawo wa ni sufi se je muslim?

where is your brain?

Islam › Re: Prostration (sajda) On Earth/dust/clay As Against On Rug Or Carpet by Empiree: 3:48pm On Dec 03, 2017

^^ this guy, ehen, seems his brain is suspended between heaven and earth grin

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Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 3:42pm On Dec 03, 2017

Everyone got that dirty little secret shocked

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Islam › Re: Prophet Muhammad (allah's Peace & Blessings Be Upon Him) Is Light by Empiree(op): 3:27pm On Dec 03, 2017

Islam › Re: What Will You Gain If You Die A Member Of A Firoq? by Empiree: 11:07pm On Dec 02, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Very soon, u will say ahmad tijani and ibrahim niyass are SAHABAHS . .tshew . .sufi and muawiyun people claiming ahlu sunnah. DO NOT DIE EXCEPT U A MUSLIM. jani

what's this nonsense has to do with what i asked you to watch?

Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 6:46pm On Dec 02, 2017

I expected you to quote this, especially sura Lukman. I don't want to derail this thread much. I was gonna post lengthy explanation but eschewed. Let me tell you something, if there is parenthesis in a verse, it means it is opinion and it is not definitive as you rightly quoted. Of all Sahaba, only Ibn Abbas(ra) interpreted the ayah that way.

mammanbawa:
“[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…” [al-Israa’ 17:64]
Ma’aazif is the plural of mi’zafah, and refers to musical instruments (Fath al-Baari, 10/55), instruments which are played (al-Majmoo’, 11/577). Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated from al-Jawhari (may Allaah have mercy on him) that ma’aazif means singing. In his Sihaah it says that it means musical instruments. It was also said that it refers to the sound of the instruments. In al-Hawaashi by al-Dimyaati (may Allaah have mercy on him) it says: ma’aazif means drums (dufoof, sing. daff) and other instruments which are struck or beaten (Fath al-Baari, 10/55).

Evidence of prohibition in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:

Allaah says in Soorat Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning):

“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]

The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40).

Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451).

May Allah guide us unto the right path

Now, instead of engaging you in a lengthy argument, this hadith refute your post.

Hadith on Eid: The Prophet let Aisha sing and play on Eid

Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, came to my house when two girls were beside me singing songs of Bu’ath. The Prophet laid down and turned his face to the other side. Then, Abu Bakr came in and spoke to me harshly, saying, “Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet?” The Prophet turned his face toward him and he said, “Leave them alone.” When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled to the girls and they left. It was the day of Eid and the Abyssinians were playing with shields and spears. Either I asked the Prophet or he asked me whether I would like to watch and I said yes. Then the Prophet made me stand behind him while my cheek was touching his cheek and the Prophet was saying, “Carry on, O tribe of Arfida.” I became tired and the Prophet asked me, “Are you satisfied?” I said yes, so I left.

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 907, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 892

Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim

Lesson From The Hadith

# the Prophet prevented Abu Bakr and Umar from interrupting and scolding the players and singers, and he told Abu Bakr that this festival was a joyous occasion and that singing was a means on enjoyment.

# on both occasions he(saw) stayed for a long time with Aisha, letting her watch the show of the Abyssinians and listening with her to the girls singing. This proves that it is better to be good-humored in pleasing women and children with games than to disapprove of such amusements out of a sense of harsh piety and asceticism.

# the Prophet encouraged Aisha by asking her if she would like to watch.

# singing and playing with the drum is permissible.”

Source: Iḥyā’ Ulūm al-Dīn 2/278

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Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 2:04pm On Dec 02, 2017

mammanbawa:
Saudi muftis dancing does not make dancing halal. To the best of my knowledge, only women are allowed to sing and dance in the absence of men.

Lord have mercy. Not even Quran and hadith evidence to back up your claims?. You guys are misguided. No doubt about it. So you know better than this mufti now? .

It is really laughable for you to say only women are allowed to sing and dance. Later you and your brothers would say it is haram for women to sing. You guys better return to madrasa and learn all over again. Or go for Tarbiya

You don't know what you are talking about

Islam › Re: What Will You Gain If You Die A Member Of A Firoq? by Empiree: 1:59pm On Dec 02, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
OTM and others? there is no single firoq on sunnah mr.man. dat name gan na bidia, amir na bida. those 2 qualities na sure bidia ..

You and your oga Jabata once said there is no tarbiya in Islam. I even defined it for you monthso ago.

Jabata even said Tarbiya is shirk. Here is your fellow salafi trying to "bring back" tarbiya. He said it is a "lost g legacy".

Lost legacy in salafism not sufism. Sufis have always kept Islamic legacy intact but you people are bidai'ing all Islamic legacy. Tarbiya is not lost. It is well and alive. It is you people that lost it. Sufis are correct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yw5087rVAY

Islam › Re: Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Celebrate Maolid Nabiyy by Empiree: 12:59pm On Dec 02, 2017

mammanbawa:
But do you think the great khaliphs wouldn't have celebrated the prophet's post humous birthday had it been a "good deed" with good intention cos I don't think they're not aware of the prophet's real birthday?

Oga, many things were invented post Nabi(saw) post sahab(ra). Today, we know a lot more than Sahaba in terms of studies. We read books of fiqh and shari'a. Sahaba knew nothing of fiqh. Figh started with tabi'n and tabi'n tabi'n. Despite this, Ta'bin didnt meet levels of sahaba. Why bcus, the presence of nabi(saw) amongst them was magnificent and sufficient. If you wake up sahaba from their graves today and show them books of fiqh, they would have no idea what it is, yet, fiqh is very useful and a good deed. In fiqh today, you can hardly read mentions of sahaba or even nabi(saw). What you hear are the Imams. So i don't get the idea of "if sahaba didnt do it it is bid'a". Do you then consider figh which detail our worship an act of bid'ah?.

mammanbawa:
I'm a muslim belonging to no sect. Like I said it's just common sense. I live in the north and I'm Hausa, I've gone places and I don't think there's any other ethnic group in Nigeria that celebrates moulud more than the Hausas. I haven't come across any celebration without music and dance (which is basically haram)

You really have no valid excuse. Eld which are even legislated, don't we see music and dancing going on there in every culture?. Does that make Eld invalid or bidia?. And says who that dancing and music are haraam?. where is your evidence that dancing is haram?. Here are saudi muftis dancing in this 30 seconds video, it is haram?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2zmKIUJ2g

And there are bunch of Arab music and dance like this. Where did you get the idea that these are forbidden acts?. Are you putting yourself forward before Allah and His messenger(saw). Making haram and halal is only Allah and His messenger's decision. No one else has the right and there is no new haram and halal after nabi(saw). Free mixing is what shari'a frown upon and that still not excuse that invalidate mawlud. You said yourself it is not even all places of mawlud do free mixing. So what exactly is the problem?. There are some free mixing in legislated Eld as well.

Watch 10 minutes video i posted up there in this page. When are you gonna start reviving that sunnah narrated in sunan Nasai?. Watch and read the hadith up there.

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