₦airaland Forum

felixomor:
Since i am boring.
I wont bore u with my answers.
Sha do well to answer the op directly

Formula dodge eeee

If you cant solve everything i have been saying concerning Jesus, God and your bible, how come you gonna understand my input about op?. My contributions so far was meant to prepare your brains (and bagdadi) by the time i answer op but since you fail and still failing, and also rejected aminusanti's contributions, then, you are a waste of time

true2god:
Just love Prez Donald Trump for not inviting any imam for his presidential inauguration and all services held by Christians. .

Donald John Trump listening to the Recitation of the Quran after he attended a national prayer service in his first week as president of the United States.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys_eUrhLSM4


He didnt want to do this openly during his inauguration service bcus of folks like you.

Either way, do i care what he thinks about religion?. nope

felixomor:
His " disguise " made people to have hope in his resurrection.
Thats what ur Dull answer implies.

Make i excuse u cus u boring

But before you vanish, answer this question that your buddy couldn't answer.


Those people who killed Jesus, are they going to be rewarded (paradise) or they are going to be punished (Hell)?

Rilwayne001:
He's always been a garrulous man — although a very humble person since he first sought the position in 2007. He first got elected in 2011, and as expected he did quite well. But since he got re-elected in 2015 (something that never happened in Oyo state) his arrogance has been something else. From insulting elders to doing stupid things while expecting no one to criticize him. Imagine him telling one of his men to arrest one of those students.. , dayumm!! I like what those guys did there.

That's how we roll in Nigeria. Stupid politicians come here to tell all kinds of different lies. Pacify us with #500 and stomach infrastructure, next thing they get our votes and treat us like animals. After all we've eaten their stomach infrastructure, and so they can treat us anyhow they like.

Only us can have mercy on ourselves until God can intervene. Things are not getting any better.

Chai, seems to me the governor truly leave you people in O. Y. O

I bet his children, (if any) are attending great schools. I think Nigerians should have been smarter than this actually, They should have got used to how politicians operates. Like they are cool their first term FOR ONLY ONE REASON, to be re-elected the second term

They should just return to voting elected officials one term and let him pack his stuff commot

Second term gives them luxuries

alBHAGDADI:
He sent his son for the purpose of dying for mankind's sins. [s]The person who made a mistake is satan who foolishly led his followers to kill him just as muslims are led by him to kill christians in all over the world.[/s][s][/s]


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Knowing that he was sent to "die for your sins", how come he was crying and wailing and screaming for help to his baba to come safe him on the cross from murderers?

Leave satan out of this. You have said he was sent to die for sins he didnt commit, which in itself contradicts Bible which 'he that sins shall die'. So how come satan led people to kill him?. Does that means God fulfill his promise through Satan to deceive and kill His son?

felixomor:
What u just wrote up there is the evidence.

OLODO How does that promotes your christianity. << < That's rhetorical question

Rilwayne001:
Interesting! As you can see, the man is exactly what the woman described him to be up there. He's got no respect for the people that voted him to power.

Imagine students staying at home for the past 8 months??

This county tire me aswear.

Very careless, useless talks on his part to say closing school for 8 months isnt a big deal. Be like say he de smoke igbo. Didnt he act like this his first term and why would people 'revoted' him the 2nd term?. Or did he hide his stup!dity his first term?

Rilwayne001:
He's arrogant.. He's always been arrogant.



He sold 30% of public schools to private individuals all in the name of privatization, people have been groaning about it for a while now. Despite alleging that it's all for the betterment of the state, nothing is yet to be shown for it. The idiot is still owing workers. People are dying like chickens here.

I tell you, APC'l government is the same everywhere, except for lagos i think. The rest, starting from Buhari, are catastrophic scam. .

This video i was talking about earlier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP5vagUbfwQ

alBHAGDADI:
A country that barely covers beyond 100 acres is where you want to situate a mosque?

Mind you, muslim women are allowed to roam free in the smallest country in the world with their hair covered. But can christians roam free in saudi arabia with their hair uncovered?

stop being silly.

You never been to Saudi neither do i. But I have watched documentaries, especially those white people. Christians are allowed to worship. Those white folks who work there attest to that. Besides, what's your business if Saudi allowed or not allowed something? .

Black people too in the US have boundaries (limited access) they dont cross which means "freedom" is not really free. So get over it.

Besides, how would you expect Saudi to allow brainless people who have no idea who jesus was to teach their children? ..

You believe God gave birth to jesus bcus He can do anything. But same God has no power to save His darling son from murderers of his son. ?. You are fantastic!

So you want Saudi, pretty much monarch society to allow you to teach and preach this nonsense to innocent people like Europeans did to you in Africa by telling you father is God, son is god, holy sprit is god and all 3 are one


^^^

That's sounds like a scam


Those who killed Jesus, are they going to paradise or hell?

ModestGal:
I ain't a fan of y'all, so please stop quoting me, I was just surprise that such thread is in existence, so my guess is that most of them will be UNILAGs student's because other local Mssn will just admit that Nairaland is haram.And due to the fact that I know that Unilags mssn are not dull,they are sharp due to exposure than other mssn that are local, boring, and hide it under Islam.That's my point

lol. ..don't let them rip you apart.

I always hear about mssn. Don't know whats that

alBHAGDADI:
Pls read what you wrote again. Or are you drunk?

Mind you, this thread is about something else not related to your questions aimed at derailing after failing to address the OP.

corrected ^^^ that was typo errors

Now, since you believe jesus died, did the people who killed him are going to be rewarded or punished?. Are they going to paradise for killing your God?

alBHAGDADI:
nA WAH O.

So, christian terrorists were among the people that you say tried to kill jesus. That means christianity existed before any attempt on his life. Your post makes no sense. Besides, i already provided a verse that proves that he didn't disguise. It was just the woman that was in error for mistaken him for the gardener. We really cant blame her, cos she never expected the person she knew was dead to be the same person talking to her. I believe that made her pass him off as a gardener or the keeper of the place.

Deal With it.

Proof to me jesus brought christianity. Proof to me he read the bible. Proof to me where bible is mentioned in the bible. Lo ba tan

alBHAGDADI:
It's like asking for a picture of a church in mecca. Below is a picture of a mosque in Italy and also a group of muslims praying near the colloseum. Can muslims allow pagans pray near their central mosques? NEVER

There are mosques in Italy where the Vatican is. But can you show me a picture of a church in Saudi Arabia where mecca is?

I have always known vatican to be an independent country even though it is aligned with Italy

felixomor:
Then Allah caused Christian to spread.
Period....
Allah is the author of Christianity...

your evidence?

WHO THIS IS?


STAY AWAY FROM THE UNREPENTANT SINNER ISMAA'EEL OLANREWAJU ABOO UMAAMAH.

Written by Abu Mardiy Kewdirôrun At-thaqoofiy and Faarooq Bn Ismaa'eel Al-egbaawi

Praise be to Allaah and blessings of Allaah be upon His Messenger and Chosen Prophet.

This is a public report of the case of a brother popular known on social media as Ismaa'eel Olanrewaju Aboo Umaamah, the proprietor of Aiman and Arabic Clinic School at No. 40, Mosaku Street, Oshodi, Lagos State, Nigeria.

Yes we once assisted this brother to call people to his Madrasah, we even made video lectures which were uploaded on Facebook to admonish people upon knowledge thereby calling them to his Madrasah.

That was indeed when he appeared to us as someone whom we trusted.

And the Scholars do say: Ruling (of matters) is based on apparent vividness.

But By Allaah he is not worthy of trust and Allaah knows.

So, what happened

This brother was actually accused of sexually harassing some sisters, a case of attempted rape and several secret sex discussions.

A sitting was thereafter arranged to address the issue, this meeting was carried out by our respected Asaatidhah which constituted Ash-Shaykh Murtadho Adedokun, Al-Ustaadh Kabir Al-asfar and Al-Ustaadh Ibraaheem Sanusi (Alias Karatu) on the case of our brother Ismaa'eel Olanrewaju Aboo Umaamah at Gidado Central Mosque, Egbeda, Lagos State, Nigeria .

The meeting comprised of both the three asaatidha, the accused unrepentant Liar Ismaa'eel Olanrewaju Aboo Umaamah and some of the sisters he was reported to have harassed sexually.

In the meeting, our brother agreed to two of the illicit cases tendered before the Asaatidhah but he disagreed with the last.

One of the cases he pleaded guilty of was that of the sister he sexually harassed in his school office after locking the door; the same location where he also holds his Madrasah.

Apart from this action he was accused of, it has also became crystal clear that he is a Liar, a Treacherous person, a Deceiver and an apparent criminal due to several evils he perpetrated.

It was concluded there at the meeting based on his own statement that he often fall into weaknesses when approached by sisters that:

1) He should leave Facebook by deactivating his account as it has become a fitnah for him; since the sisters accusing him of sexual harassment were linked up with him through the same social network platform called Facebook.

2) He should stop admitting sisters into his Madrasah to keep him safe from the fitnah of women.

Meanwhile, these decisions were made to do two things:

1) To assist him by keeping him safe from the tribulation and future trials.

2) To plead with some of the accusers who already threatened arrests, court cases and other legal actions against the brother.

He however failed to adhere to the agreed judgement passed to assist him personally.

And as several efforts were put in place to make him remorseful and repentant he rather became heart-hardened day in day out.

Moreover, the assistance we rendered to him as regards calling people to his Madrasah was verily because we saw apparent remorsefulness on his face the day we sat to discuss over the issue at Abeokuta, Ogun State, Nigeria, after his sitting with the respected Asaatidhah at Lagos, where he attested to us and the Asaatidhah in both settings the correctness of the accusations, but Alas! It was indeed a pretence from this brother.

Pitiful enough, he goes ahead after the above mentioned sitting destroying the names of three Asaatidhah saying they were indeed unjust over their judgement in the first sitting that was held at Gidado Central Mosque, Egbeda, Lagos State, Nigeria.

More so, he kept feeding people with lies as regards the underlying issue making it seem like the matter was mere fabrications designed to tarnish his image.

He even went ahead to tarnish the image one of our respected brothers by chatting up his wife privately with a separate username aiming to destroy the brother's home.

Indeed reputation belongs to Allaah which He grants to whom He desires.

He also swears by Allaah deceitfully to every caller and questioner that he never did the evils he was accused of.

SubhaanaLlaah!!! This is one of the reasons why he is tagged an apparent liar.

So, on what basis did the respected Asaatidhah now sit? Are they people of fabricated statements and rumour mongers

To make it worse, he has separate Facebook accounts which he uses to threaten those who know about this issue and in antagonizing anyone who sees him as the guilty one.

Many of evils related from this brother are indeed overwhelming tribulations.

If you his supporters however feel that we are antagonizing him just to tarnish his image, then the wrath of Allaah is on the Liar and may Allaah judge between us both on the day not even money nor children will benefit any soul.

We should all remember that Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

And when two groups from the believers fight over an issue; then make amendments between the two of them; but If one of the two groups transgresses over the other, then fight (together) the group that fell into transgression till they return (in repentance and submission) to Allaah; If however the transgressing group returns to Allaah; then make amendments between them with justice and be fair (in your decision); Indeed Allaah loves the fair and just ones. Sooratul Hujuraat verse 9.

Moreover, the safety of the Ummah is more important to every sincere Muslim.

We hereby warn the people especially sisters from this brother Ismaa'eel Olanrewaju Aboo Umaamah.

May Allaah make the truth apparent to him and us; and soften his heart and ours to accept it and follow it.

May He, the Most High, make falsehood apparent to him and us; and assist him and us to stay away from it.

felixomor:
Abeg quiet and answer question.
Why did Allah disguise Jesus?

to secure and protect him against jewish and christian terrorists who slandered him and wanted to kill him

alBHAGDADI:
Look at how big the mosque is. Can you even show me a picture of a church in saudi arabia?

can u show me picture of a mosque in Vatican? .

alBHAGDADI:
Pls, what has Trump issue got to do with this questions raised by the OP which you are yet to answer?

Addressing your video, what they are doing in front of the mosque is a little compared to what Christians and churches face everyday in the hands of muslims in Islamic countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc, where Christians are getting beheaded just cos they converted from Islam or they held a Christian house fellowship.

Something you can't take in your own region, you demand when in someone else's region.

the video is headsup. Just happened yesterday. So now, how did God gave birth to Jesus?

Na by force? Christians harassing Muslims on the first day of Trump in office


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Je_vdHiPX0

aminusanti:
Lol..those guys are deceivers, is like theyr all programmed to be dishonest..why is it very hard to find a sincere/honest christian pls?
Nothing will make sense to them as long as they r still seeing jesus as God or begotten son of God.
As for alBHAGDADI he is dumbest among them all, Lying, deception, hate and hypocrisy is what he is good at...
he doesn't even know what he is doing thats why I stop giving him attention of any sort. You are really trying handling his foolishness

That's it.

Watch this 2 mins video on the first day of Trump in office, they are harassing Muslims in front t mosque.

They are liars. I hate it when you show them facts but they still want to be dumb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Je_vdHiPX0

plappville:
The prophets of the torah/bible. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel, Moses, Jeremiah, Ezekiel etc.., They are Israelites, Gods chosen ones to be precised.
The prophets who never step thier foots in Saudi Arabia. They are the true prophets of God.

O yeah?. but your bible mocks most of these prophets you mentioned. If we compare Bible and Quran treatments of these prophets, Quran elevates their status but bible relegates and disgraces them.

Dont you think now you are being a bigot, self-hate islamophobic?. You simply hate for no reason

EgunMogaji:
I'm still doing research.

PS: Would I have to pull my pants down?

Yes, and wet it with ice cold water before lashing

alBHAGDADI:
Ok, when are you going to answer the OP?

Since you failed here, how are you going to understand islamic stance on what op is trying to learn from us?

alBHAGDADI:
I only took the Quran verse to show you that the Quran claims God is very powerful enough to create the entire universe but the same Quran finds it difficult to believe that the same God can have a son without a wife. That alone shows that the Quran denies God to be really powerful.


I have showed you several times how God has done miracles that normal humans can't phantom.

I told you he created man from dust, yet you believe it will be impossible for him to have a son.

I told you how humans Now have children without sex and sperm, yet you believe their Creator needs a wife to have a son.

Humans Now clone each other, yet you believe their creator can have a son.


If you can't tell me how he created heaven and earth and all the beautiful things you believe he created, then don't expect me to tell you how he got a son.

Confused element.

God is not human. Begotten son is animal act that does not befits God. God is Creator. He doesn't beget. I am sure your fellow christian scholar8200 will disagree with you. You have a big problem.Your belief here is not different from polytheists.

I rest my case.

^

I dont understand these politicians.

alBHAGDADI


Why did you edit my post?. You see how desperate you are now?. ilynem aminusanti, see what this guy did bcus he can't refute me?. My post is right above his but he edited it from second paragraph.. Second paragraph is his words.

He cant tell us how God gave "birth" to Jesus despite clear proof from Quran and bible. Shows that he has no reasonable contributions.

alBHAGDADI:
I would have loved to quote the countless old testament and new testament verses that shows Yahshua is the son of God, but a typical Muslim like you will say those verse have been corrupted.

If you believe he is NOT the only son of God, then it means you believe God has sons.
Then why do you Muslims still say he cannot have a son without a wife? Are you contradicting yourself?

Is son according to your bible is biological?


son son son and even there are daughters of God. This doesnt mean muslims believe God has sons and daughters. It is your bible speaking not Quran. So we scrutinized your bible and realized 'son' is metaphorical.


For instance, it is not just son God has. Your bible even said that Adam is son of God Luke 3:38


Here, Bible says Israel is "firstborn" of God Exodus 4:22

Here your bible says God has millions and billions of sons and daughters 2 Corinthians 6:18


In your Bible 1 John 3:10, good people who know the right from wrong are called sons of God.


This is just heads up ^^ perhaps, you may think.



"son of God" is metaphorical. If you disagree, then how many sons and daughters God has?. If God has more than one son, it means christ/yashua/messiah/Jesus is not the only 'son' of God.

"Son of God", is what is coined in islam as "slave of Allah".


God does not beget. God does not have wife. This is blasphemy and a sin that is not forgiven. The recompense for anyone who believes God has a son is Hell Fire and to abide therein forever.



Qur'an says God does not have a wife nor a son


"Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth! How could He have a son when He has no consort, and He (Himself) created everything, and He is the Knower of all things." Sura 6:101


Also


"And to warn those who say, " Allah has taken a son.

They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers. Grave is the word that comes out of their mouths; they speak not except a lie." Sura 18 v 4-5

alBHAGDADI:
Cos God said so Himself.

Liar! This is blasphemy.

What is punishment for blasphemy according to your Bible?


Besides, Jesus is not only 'son' of God.

alBHAGDADI:
God doesn't have a wife. This doesn't mean he can't have a son without a wife.

If God could create the entire universe, why do Muslims think he can't have a beloved son?

If humans could give birth without sexual intercourse or even the use of sperm but human cell, why do Muslims still believe the creator of humans needs a wife to have a son?

If Muslims believe God created man from dust, why do they still believe it will be impossible for him to have a son without a wife?

I dont need story. How is Jesus son of God?. Simple question

alBHAGDADI:
We will accept that only when Muslims scream YAHWEH Akbar in Mecca and Medina.

Failure to do that shows that we do not worship the same God.

This makes you a bigot.



You skipped this. Answer it

Question, how is he (Jesus/Yashua/Messiah/Christ) son of Yahweh?

HIScraziness:
Lol!! Could remember the day I came back from school looking like a mechanic


Na neighbours save me from my mama

you probably used to do this

alBHAGDADI:
christ is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word Messiah. The same way you will say Jesus Christ is the same way you will say Yahshua Messiah

Now this brings to mind when muslims say Allah is God, the Creator of the universe. Allah is arabic word for God (to simply put). Why then did you christians reject Allah is God of the universe ?.