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Plappvillemoi:
You are laughable again. Where is Trump in the video talking? What a shame. Forging fabricating stories against Trump cannot help to change the historical fact that there is only one prophet who has really shown hatred to black people. He kept calling them names like "Ship" "raisin head" "pug-nosed slaves" etcetera.

Islam is an ideology, whose scriptures contain explicit denigrating remarks about black people. You ignore this facts and keep fooling around NL with fake stories. Even the 2015 Mecca Stamped that took over 2000 lives was blamed on the black people by the Saudi security. Do you think you are any value to the Arabs? I know them very well. They are worse than any other race you can think of. They believe they are the purest. They believe they are superior to the black people. Take it or live it. But thats just the facts. Those from north Africa says they are not African just because they believed Africa is a continent for black people.

proof to me that Muslim wrote the article and theven video. Did you read my text up there at all? . Donald trump ACTUALLY made related comments particularly about African Americans and Obama Democrats exerggerate him.

Plappvillemoi:
I didn't fall for him. I mean even if Trump say things like that its his opinions. He is still better than Muhammad who claimed to be a prophet but hate black people with so much passion.

the first black man to call to prayer in the time of nabi muhammad (p) was black man and also a scholar. Are you talking out of hate.

true2god:
I have finally lost hope on Muslims if this fake propaganda video, where Donald Trump never uttered a single word, is believed as true by brain-dead Muslim like you. Shame on you!

did u read to delibrately misunderstood what I wrote? . Where is Muslim in all of this?

lexiconkabir:
emm, just a correction, 73 sects does not mean every single group that emerges, no, before it can be regarded a sect, it's ideologies would be known and followed by people world wide, just as how when the prophet said 30 false Prophets will emerge before yawmul qiyaamah, obviously in lagos alone we've seen more than 30, so is the hadeeth to be taken metaphorically too? no, what is meant is, these false prophets would influence and have large numbers of followers throughout the world.

on this note, 73 sects is taken literally, if its not literal, then why mention "73" specifically?

ok. Thanks

Plappvillemoi:
He is just trying to play smart. He wants to divert the topic. That write-up is from a non experienced person. Fir the few times I have been following up Trump's Tweets I know He didnt write that rubish put up there by Em.piree. This man is a fat lier. UsING their same tactics as his fellows.Trying to fool himself to the highest level.

That's how NL moslims behave.

https://www.nairaland.com/3500799/donald-trump-full-speech-why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-GiX6d-L4E

Lol...I am only frustrating your reactions. This is not about Muslims. It is Democrats and pro-democrats media propagating this stuff prior to election to demonize him. This post exposes how you act toward negative comment about Africans and Christianity. But I am sure you would not act like this had it been about muslims and Islam. You would have believed it if he talked about Muslims like this.

This goes to show that you are very unscrupulous, cunning people. Anyways feed yours eyes with above.

true2god:
Lying is a hubby in Islam. Islam destroys conscience and promotes lies, theft and propaganda.

my post dey give you all serious disorder kikikiki kikikiki

Plappvillemoi:
And so what?

He is simply saying black christians are backwards and filthy

parisbookaddict:
If U believe he wrote that then U are deluded.

Bcuz it is not in ur favor

He said worse than this so why is this exceptional?

true2god:
If Obama is a Christian then I am a Muslim. Do you get the irony?

This video might help you: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp

Lord have mercy. You dont make any sense. You sent this manipulated video to prove what exactly?. Oh because he quoted Quran, praised islam and its history, so that proved he is muslim somehow?. What's wrong with him quoting from Quran?. Yourself quoted from Quran isnt?.

Maybe you need to read fbi reports about muslims Americans. They praised Islam and muslims for their rich history. That makes them muslim?. I watched the video in part by the way. They tried to say his slip of tongue for reference of his muslim faith. Rubbish!

true2god:
Obama Hussein Obama is a Muslim and a Muslim criminal. The Americans got it late.

you had to stoop so low after I gave you your own dose. Obama isn't Muslim

parisbookaddict:
Al taqqiyya alert!!

if you believe you can deceive any non Muslim with this Muslim propaganda write up then you are actually far less intelligent than i thought.

Pain...any sad new's about christianity is 'taqiya'. Beautiful thing he didn't mention Islam and Muslims. He didn't waste his time on Arabs either. He was brief. But he spent his time on Christianity and blacks. That's good.

true2god:
'The word of God like a double-edged sword...' One of this best bible verses. thanks bro.

Obama, a very good demonic Muslim lying to be a Christian. Muslim's greatest Altaqiyya merchant after Mohammed (peace be upon me).

pain...

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true2god:
Sahih bhukari 4:52:220.

I would have took you serious if you agreed Luke 19:27 equally sent violent message. It is a clear cut bible verse. No silly explanations.

FriendChoice:
We are not talking on Jumuah or 73 sect. He ask whether its sunnatic or not.

I know. Just had to explain the hadith

FriendChoice:
What about. What about. What about. When you cannot answer this you move to this.

'Innal hamdalillaah, nahmaduhu wanasta’inuhu, wanastaghfiruh. Wana’udzubillaahi minsyururi
anfusina wamin sayyiati a’amalina, may yahdihillahu fala mudillalah, wamay yud’lil fala hadiyalah. Asyhadu alailahaillallahu wahdahu la sharikalah wa assyhadu anna muhammadan abduhu warasuluh.Salallahu'alaihi wa 'ala alihi wa sahbihi wa man tabi'ahum bi ihsanin illa yaumiddiin'. Fainna ashdaqal hadits kitabaLLAH wa khairal hadyi hadyu Muhammad Salallahu alaihiwassalam, wa sharral ‘umuri muhdasatuha, Wa kullu muhdasatin bid’ah. wa kullu bid’atin dhalalah wa kullu dhalalatin fin nar.

No one denies this hadith usually quoted on juma'ah. But if you think everything is bida base on this hadith, then, ALL Muslims are in bida one way or the other.

That means you take the above hadith literally just like "73 sects". Obviously if we count all sects carefully, they are more than 73. Every now and then, there have been sects coming up. Anytime someone wants to write about 73 sects, before they finish the book, another sect emerges which proves the hadith is not talking literally.

See attachment for its explanation of bidah

Sufisunni:
What do u think that makes quranic competition sunnah?

U dey mind him

He was skeptical bcuz he realized mawlud falls in the same category. That's why he refused to give his opinion on Quran competitions.

He knew where I was driving him at that's why he was careful not to fall on my hands

He cant deny ALL Muslims and ALL Muslim countries favored it. That's why I pressured him that, by his definition of bidah, "whatever not practiced by nabi (saw) or companions is bidah". This competetions of quran is in that category. So those saying there is no bid'a hassanat must be living in disneyland unless they would admit it's bidah which I don't believe.

Those imams he highlighted are not companions. They came after tab'in or tab'in themselves. What excuse does he have now.

Make I trouble him small about hadith (he posted) usually recited at khutba......


I dey come in sha Allah

President99:
This is sheer hypocrisy! Prophet(SAW) never did any quranic competition, same for Abubakar(AS), Umar(AS), Uthman(AS) and Ali(AS). The earlier salafs(earlier guided believer & not as misconstrued by the neo salfists) never practised quranic competition. Ibn qayyim is entitled his ijtihad likewise scholars like: Suyuti and Hajara Asqalani who supported Mawlud.
U r busy up there, that scholars differ on quranic competition, didnt scholars differ on Mawlud too? infact most sunni scholars supported.

Seconded. You understood my point. Thanks. They don't understand noffing

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Let her know that "Islamic Terrorism" is oxymoron

AlBaqir:
I've lost your whatsapp contact faah

But you still appear pretty much on mine

FriendChoice:
First of all it was never a religious gathering Saudi National King talkles of categorizing it as Bidi'a.

People that celebrate their birthday are not doing so in the name of Islam. Are they?


Maulud is done in the name of Islam. Salatul Fatihi also is done in the name of Islam (Its even have a stipulated reward which is greater than Qur'an.)

Maulud is bid'a and all Muslim should abstain from it.

bla bla bla....You are cornered. I am done. For your problems with solati fatih, i rather leave you in ignorance. That was explained and i understood it. NOTHING IS GREATER than Quran. Perhaps, you might even criticize a hadith which says reciting Sura iklas is like reciting entire Qur'an in one night.

Brother, your case is like tarzan who survived the jungle and then lost his way in the city.

FriendChoice:
And who has tell that is part of religion? Do they tell you its part of religion. Example if you celebrate independence of Nigeria as a Nigerian is that Islam.

It's not even Islam talkles of categorizing it as Sunnah or Bid'a. What of Maulud and Salatul fatihi?



Educate yourself here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_National_Day

Yea, I was expecting you to say "it is not part of religion". How then you all got mouth when individual muslim celebrate their own birthday?. They all shouting "the prophet did not do it, sohaba did not do it". Is that part of religion?. So next time, Never ever condemn people celebrating their birthday. And 'you' here does not necessarily mean you. If celebrating national/kings birthday is not religious one to you then one's birthday is not either. Saudi is 100% islamic. You cant compare it with Nigeria and many others.

I have absolutely no problems with whatever they do. However educate yourself too. http://www.almonitor.com/pulse/tr/originals/2013/09/saudi-national-day-contradictions-in-culture-and-identity.html


Now, using (sorry to speak) salafi methodology, "we are to not imitate kufar", here is what they wrote too.


The “National Day” is Bid’ah (Blameworthy Innovation) and an Imitation of the Non-Muslims

Help yourself please and make sure you read http://www.bakkah.net/en/the-saudi-national-day-is-bidah-blameworthy-innovation-and-an-imitation-of-the-non-muslims.htm


Now read the twist by your favorite islamqa website. Who are they deceiving?. They said National day is just a gathering. Dont other people said the same for theirs?. And who gave them authority to oversee islam?.

Help yourself http://islamqa.org/maliki/binbayyah/29785

If milad is bida'a this is bid'a as well. People just twisting base on ego. Abeg, make i hear word. So they can gather for nonsense national and kings holiday, beating drums, dancing and singing but condemn the same of other muslims. They dont want muslims together for religious reason but they can gather for nonsense holiday. I begin to understand more of this crazy fatawa now. This really exposes islamqa. I am speechless. As clear as day light, they are simply trying to protect certain people. Have long suspected that.

We cant gather for zikr, dua but we can gather to dance, smoke shisha, etc. What a world. I thank you very mr. friendchoice for pushing me through. Thanks again sir. Dont come with nonsense to me anymore. I got the picture.

AlBaqir:
Ma sha Allah. This is really nice. How ya doing brother.

Albaqir in the house. Ma Sha Allah. Welcome Back akhii. How is studies going

Parrisbookaddict must hear this



DONALD TRUMP'S FULL SPEECH ON WHY HE HATES AFRICANS & ARABS.

We are not obliged,even for a second, to try to prove to anybody and especially to blacks and Arabs that we are superior people - we have demonstrated that to the black and Arabs in 1001 ways.
The America we know today was not created by wishful thinking.We created it at the expenses of intelligence, sweat and blood.....we do not pretend like other whites that we like the blacks - We must admit,without any fear,that we don't like them,and for so so may many valid reasons.

The fact that blacks and Arabs look like human beings does not necessarily make them sensible human beings. Hedgehogs are not porcupines and lizards are not crocodiles because they look alike. if God had wanted us to be equal to blacks and Arabs, he would have created us all of a uniform colour and intellect. But he created us differently.Whites, blacks, yellow, the rulers and the ruled. intellectually we are superior to the blacks and Arabs.That has been proven beyond the reasonable doubt over the years.

I believe that a white man is an honest, God fearing person who has demonstrated practically the right way of being a human.By now every one of us has seen it practically that blacks and Arabs cannot rule themselves. Give them guns and they will kill each other.They are good in nothing else but making noise, dancing, marrying many wives, alcoholism, witchcraft, indulging in sex, pretending in church, jealousy, fighting and complaining of nonsense.

Their only main concern (which according to me is stupidity of the highest magnitude) is same - sex marriages.They keep pointing fingers to us,we the west,that we have legalised it in our countries,and that we always outspokenly support gay people around the world.And because they always foolishly want to demostrate their ignorance,hatred and fear about the subject,some of them have even enacted harsh laws to codemn their own gay citizens.This shows that beyond illusions and doubt,what people do with their own bodies is Africans main concern.I hear they even strip their women publicly.

Let us all accept the fact that the black man is a symbol of poverty, mental inferiority, laziness and emotional incompetence.To make the matter worse,he can do everything possible to defend his stupidity.Give them money for development and they will fight and create hatred and enmity for themselves.Drill oil wells for them and they will not have peace all the days of their life.See,for instance,what's happening in Nigeria,Southern Sudan,Malawi,DRC just to mention a few.
this proves to anybody including a stupid fool that Africans do not know what they want. isn't that plausible?
Therefore that the white man is created to rule the black man, Africans will always have day dreams.And here is the creature (black man) that lacks foresight but only sees what is near him and still fails to know what to do. A black man is stupid to the extent that he cannot plan for his life beyond a year. Therefore how can they develop and live longer.

Corruption in west (And China) is a big abomination but in africa,it's so huge that it is slowly becoming an acceptable way of life.They sing and rejoice to their corrupt political leaders.They worship their scandal-ridden religious leaders like their gods.Lest you forget,these so called Africans are praising,dancing and praying for the people that have impoverished them,and who comes to hide their loot here.
Then which fool argues that the black man is not born a beggar, grows a beggar, looks a beggar, falls sick as a beggar and dies a beggar. this has been proven beyond reasoning. I wonder why even up to now most Africans still go to school by force and those who are at school are are just drug addicts who don't know what took them there.This is a pregnant stupidity in Africa that needs Jesus's immediate second coming. the body of Africans is a very fertile ground for all diseases in the world because they don't fear even HIV/AIDS. This leaves me with a question: are our eyes created the same with those Africans,,.? I hear there are still cultures in Africa that prohibit them from using latrines which is very annoying.
They cried for independence but have failed to rule themselves. For sure being African is a very untreatable disease that even prayers are not enough.
They have minerals but they cannot do anything with it.Therefore let us (whites) go to Africa and pick what we can pick and leave what is of no use.Poverty is a disease to the whites but to the blacks it is very normal.

The worst tragedy in Africa is that if you dare stand up and speak up for what's right,you may end up regretting.The few wise and open-minded Africans who have tried to educate these fools about civilization have met the worst.They have been pushed hard on the wall,they have been silenced and others have been killed.
Before I finish,let me tell Africans that before you jump and call me a racist,an anti-blacks or whatever term you may wish to use against me,first tackle runaway corruption,dreadful terrorism,tribalism,poverty,unemployment, diseases, illiteracy ,ignorance and inequality that have put your whole continent on the verge of collapse.Hate me or love me I don't care.I know this is the plain truth which will never see the light of the day to the cowards that are afraid to be told as it is.
Jesus please hurry and save Africans and Arabs. A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE.

By, Donald .J. Trump.

This One No Concern anybody. But if you feel the need to challenge it, bismillah. I have said earlier my post on Mawlud and related topics would be for educational purposes whether I am in support of it or not. Problems we are facing today is people seem to neglect Shari'a rules sometimes. We were taught basics definition of Hadith which comprises of ACTIONS, WORDS, SILENT APPROVAL of Nabi (sallaAllahu alaiy wasalam).

SHARIAH RULE that EVEN the MERE SILENCE of the Holy Prophet upon his witnessing of any event / action (and not preventing or expressly forbidding it) constitutes an implied approval of the same, and it thus becomes an approved action. It is most disappointing to see these days that Muslims are being accused of doing shirk etc at Mawlid gatherings. These are nothing but futile accusations for the very essence of being a Muslim is to worship the One and only One Deity worthy of ALL WORSHIP - Almighty Allah.


Take for example the saying of Shaykh al-Islam Imam Ibn Hajr al Haytami (Rahimuhullah):


The gatherings of Mawlid and Adhkaar which take place during our time, they are mostly confined to good deeds, for example in them, Sadaqat are given, Dhikr is done, Darud and Salam is sent upon the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) and he is praised.......And the second type of gathering is sunnah which comes under those ahadith which are regarding adhkaar Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The people do not sit but they are surrounded by angels and covered by Mercy, and there descends upon them tranquillity as they remember Allah - narrated by Muslim. [Fatawa al-Hadithiyyah, Page 202] (The fatwa also warns against prohibited actions - but this is standard all year round to avoid prohibited actions)


Definition of Milad-un-Nabi

The word Milad has been derived from "viladut" which means birth. Therefore, according to the Arabic language, Milad is a word which signifies the place and time of birth. In the light of Shariah, we mean, Milad is to remember the events which took place at the birth time of the Holy Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) and we get the opportunity of narrating the Seerat of the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) on this occasion. We also present the Holy Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) gifts of Durood -o- salam. We mention before the people attributes and praises of the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam). We do not believe that Milad is restricted to only one day but we believe that the remembrance of the Holy Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) is incumbent in every minute and second of time. Milad un Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) is a great source of preaching. It is an opportunity for dawah and the scholars to teach Muslims on this Holy occasion, moral behavior of the Holy Prophet, (salallaho alaihi wasalam) His etiquettes, His affairs, His Seerat, His dealings and His shamail.




Fixing a day or selecting one day for the propagation of Islam

One of the allegation brought is FIXING A DAY to send salaam on the prophet(SAW) for example. for this reason, they deemed it bid'a.

Did the Sahaba fix days for propagation of Islam like we see the Muslim ummah commemorating on the 12th Rabbi-ul-Awwal every year??


Read below for the answer from Sahih Bukhari..

Narrated Abu Wail: Abdullah ibn Masud (R.A) used to give a religious talk to the people on EVERY Thursday. Once a man said, "O Aba 'Abdur-Rahman! (By Allah) I wish if you could preach us daily." He replied, "The only thing which prevents me from doing so, is that I hate to bore you, and no doubt I take care of you in preaching by selecting a suitable time just as the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) used to do with us, for fear of making us bored." [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3, Number 70]


Of Course - the commemoration of Mawlid should not be restricted to the 12th of Rabbi-ul-Awwal but instead should be remembered every breath we take through constant dhikr of Allah and reciting durood upon the Master Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam). This is why some Ulama in Nigeria also commemorate Milad on other than Rabiu Awal to avoid such criticism.

Problem we have today is some muslims rely on only parts of Shari'a i:e ACTIONS and WORDS of nabi(saw) and discard the other (SILENT APPROVAL) unless where it suits them.


more to come in sha Allah

FriendChoice:
Hahaha frustrate who? Me or Yourself. The Truth is very clear from falsehood. You're only frustrating yourself 4 me to accept Maulud as Sunnah which is dead on arrival. Maulud is Bid'a.

You basically speaking out of desire now. You dont think. It is as clear as day light neither you nor your cohorts answer my question. Free mind readers know where i am driving at. You all silent when i bring Saudi and clans up. Thats called hypocrisy bcus you know I can dig up many things. I rather just leave it.

Keep shouting milad is bida while you support celebrations of Kings who are far beneath the prophet. So i know how you think. Until you openly declare here that National/Kings holiday celebrated on September 24 in Saudi Arabia is bid'a, then, what's the point of arguing with you.

lexiconkabir:
i wonder how Empi.ree also think, where in the quote did you see "mawlud"? abi ara n fun yin ni? are you being suspicious?

and yes! i didnt read that.

I imagined you replied the brother on Mawlud so i responded.

RABIUSHILE04:
LOL, dat 'if dem born u well' tho..LOL!

I've an advice akhee, once you've given much evidence, you just leave argument with Mr.Emp... He's been clamouring for this walimotu Quran and Quranic competition since, and our dear SNAPSCORE has done justice with evidence(S).

May Allaah preserve you, I and all of us upon goodness.

Lol..."evidence"?. Evidence she prevented does not in any way validates Quran competition. It CLEARLY says scholars differ. And i was trying to say the same way they differ on mawlud. However, I was simply trying to frustrate friendchoice bcuz of his definition of bid'a bcuz i know for sure he is not against Quran competition. But it is not traced to the prophet either by definition of your bid'a. Quran competition itself started in 1961. Mawlud started centuries before that. So why supporting bida here, condemn it there is my problem with you people. And I still have more but hes already exhausted on Walimot and Quran competition.

I have no problems with Quran competition, Walimot etc but one of your brothers called fundament said it is bid'a. So i know how you people think.

lexiconkabir:
shawl, i wonder how you think.

I grew up on Maliki School Of Thought. Although in my family, we do not celebrate mawlid. But at Ile-Kewu, we did one time including Quran competition and Walimot. None of the members of my family criticized it. They simply considered it a gathering to learn and part of ile-kewu curriculum. I have stated what we did in mawlud in 1996 and I have absolutely no reason to go against it.

However, from your quote about Imam Maliki, I have just read about it and I see CLEARLY prints of salafism there. They have exaggerate Maliki stance on Mawlud. His quote up there is true but at the same time, it is an open statement encompassing everything we may term bid'a today. That's why i told the brother up there that if we should dig, we will realize that, by definition of bid'a given by anti-mawlud people, ALL muslims one way or the other still practice bid'a. We better just leave it cuz it is bigger than we think.

Thats why i said in the other thread to Abumuhmmad that Shuyuk in Nigeria in the 80s and 90s have done exactly what we are doing now. Those Nigerian Shuyuk MUST have came across Imam Maliki's statement(ra). Did they misunderstoof it?. I dont think so. Most of them are Malikis.

So Imam Maliki's statement was simply not specific about Mawlud. If you want, i can post the link i just read and you will like it bcuz it is in your favor. Then again, I read on Muwattadotcom analysis of what and what is not permissible. Some acts are just plain neutral coined 'mubah'. But from the website i am talking about, one doesn't need Phd to figure out The Salafis and other anti-mawlud have interjected and exaggerated Imam malik's stance bcuz they have used the opportunity to quickly condemned many other things. That's when I laughed big I can see that RED FLAG.

Knowledge I gained there in 1996 still in my head today. But the website said nothing is good about mawlud even just the name itself and no beneficial knowledge. Really?.

Meanwhile, I have read some stuff recently where some scholar like Ibn Kathir and other(ra) wrote poetry on the day of Mawlud. Scholar are basically divided over it. This is contrary to the saying that "majority of scholars" go against Mawlud. Very well then, how come majority muslims still do it today?. What troubles me is the only countries that dont celebrate Mawlud are Saudi, Qatar and perhaps, UAE. But Saudi celebrate their Kings Day. UAE bought the largest xmas tree in 2010 (stand to be corrected) on display for millions of dollars (govt money). All these are permmisble and Shari'atic but Mawlud is bid'a and haram?. On the idelogical side, only Salafis and Deobandis do not celebrate Mawlud. Yet Deobandi scholars embraced other "great celebrations".This is why Muslims dont take anti-Mawlud serious. They see it like hypocricy.


Below is attachment from muwatta website

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This Neil Griff dude is crazy.

Read his reply to BBC trash...

People aren't fools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXvbDdesKsY