₦airaland Forum

Seun:
Every member of MMM is cheating the people he/she invites, and also encouraging them to cheat others in turn. This makes it immoral to me.

Mr Seun makes sense of ALL time

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plappville:
If Muslims were given the chance, they would do it.They will kill everyone that doeant believe allah. Cant you see them brag on YouTube they are going to doninate the world? How else can this be achieved if not by killing of infidels and by reproduction. In Marseille, the Jews living there no longer use the kippah to cover thier head because they get killed by the Muslims /Arabs. Yet Arab/Muslim women still cover thier faces without anyone killing them. Muhammad had given this order and those Muslims who understand the koran obey these commands. Are u aware 7 Muslims were stopped from a terrorist attack that was supposed to be carried in a Christmas market in Strasbourg on the 1st of this December? What else do you expect? Kill the infidels of course.

liar....you haven't been informed? . How about 2 imams murdered by Christian few months ago in front of the mosque in NYC?. About that time, a Muslim woman was stabbed to death by Christian in new York city for wearing hijab.

Another one just hapaned last week. A NYC correctional police office wearing hijab was verbally abused and her son was beaten. She was told to "get out of our country". Meanwhile, the Muslim officer was born in New York. Many cases like this. Another one last week on New York city train, Muslim girl was harassed on the train. There are many others we are not being told

Here he is not long ago

Demmzy15:
Nope, he isn't. You'll need to give us factual proof for that!

you dey mind her. The guy was already questioned by Muslims on YouTube about his new faith....he did not answer them. Then I saw his conversations on fb trying to consider Judaism. Matter of fact, he was reluctant to say Judaism. He specifically mentioned sect in Judaism he preferred. Not rabbinical one. The people who questioned him on fb are non-muslims. From the way they sounded appeared to be nominal Christians and atheists bcus they asked him if he now believes Jesus is God?. He reluctant to say he's not God. He said he doesn't believe Jesus is God but chosen one. The people asked isn't same thing Muslims and Jews believe?. He basically doesn't want to offend his Christian audience. That's why he doesn't want to give info about his faith. He's not a Christian. He's considering Judaism. ...period

parisbookaddict:
mr muslim shame on you for your al taqiyya..

LUKE 19-27
King James Version (KJV)
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.


so you are still posting your deceitful understanding on luke 19 after i have explained the parable to you..you didn't quote the context. Christ was telling a parable (story with a deeper meaning). Its called, "the parable of the Gold coins" and it starts from Luke 19 verse 11 to 27




for the benefit of those that are ignorant of the verse i will post the full context of that story,

[b]Luke 19:11-27

11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25(And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
KJV
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who needs this epistle from you? . Do you understand what we talking at all?. He quoted verses of Qur'an out of context and then claimed it is very clear. So I quoted from your bible that is also very clear. If true2god was not ready to know the explanations of those verses, then your explanation of Luke 19 vs 27 is meanless, null and void. VERY SIMPLE

usermane:
Your assertion that Hijab is not a basic of Islam is contradictory to your own theology. Virtually, all your clergymen agree hijab is a basic in Islam, that denial of hijab is tantamount to kufr. Let's not loose our focus. Denying the law and violating the law are not the same. What the speaker stated was that denying sharia is kufr. Hijab being an element of sharia, denial of hijab is kufr as well, according to the speaker and traditional scholars. As a traditionalist, you are accept this.
In response to the speaker, I disagreed. My evidence being Quran 2:62, you don't need to be believe in Sharia to be a Muslim. Islam is not limited to Muhammad or the Qur'an. You can't call a Muslim a disbeliever because he disbelieves in amputation.

I have refrained from responding to your other questions & posts, you should have sensed it by now, you are not intellectually stimulating enough for me. You employ many logical fallacies in your arguments; appeal to extreme, shifting the goalpost, straw man, appeal to majority. You ask questions that you already know the response, questions I have responded to in the past, downright silly or irrelevant questions. Also, try research your sources and traditions properly when you debate me, unlike those folks at Religion section, I understand your sources or traditions thoroughly. I was raised an observant traditionalist for over 20 years. So, I can tell when you are covering up, omitting, falsifying or contradicting your traditions. Believe me

Peace

Your opinion now. Not wearing hijab does not take one out of Islam. Amputation however is LEGISLATED i:e Allah''s Law. But if individual doesn't believe it could mean he or she simply doesn't understand. I can't call such a kafir until it's explained to him. The ayah is found in sura maida which says "whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed are kafir, wrong doer" etc.

We can say this applies to authority but individeal Muslims is bound to believe it. To reject it is to reject Allah's Words. Which is kufr.

I repeat, when the speaker said "to reject sharia is kufr". This is just general statement. What upholds sharia that can throw you out of Islam faster are obligatory duties: salat, ramadan, zakat, haj. To reject these is to reject Islam.

Anything after these are debatable. Don't lump everything together. I never said hijab is not basic. It is but doesn't take you out of the fold. Just like drinking alcohol is legislated WE SHOULD NOT DRINK IT. If a Muslim does he's simply sinning not kufr. But its legislation is Sharia. Where problem of kufr is if a Muslim tries to LEGALIZE drinking alcohol.

Now proof to me from our literature that rejecting hijab or not wearing it is tantamount to kufr...please do.

Even salat etc, possibilities exist that a Muslim does not know gravity of negnecting it. You give dawah first to him or her unless and until the person openly rejects it. We can't just say "you are kafir" for not observing them. To reject them is what is kufr. Please stop twisting and stop mixing things up. You sound like those salafists sometimes.

Before my brother became religious he never used to pray but he believed it. No one called him kafir. We simply realized he didn't know the consequences. Such people need dawah not excommunication. Try to spot what I'm telling you. Get over your ego and cool off.

A while back in the US, when they campaigned #Stopsharialaw, Muslims understood it to me they can no longer pray, publicly or not. That was the first thing that came to mind. So stop messing around with my intelligence, sir.

I have not even quoted scholars yet. I'm just using my own initiative. I'm sure most scholars do not consider not wearing hijab to be kufr. I can bring it on if you want.

Exactly. Do not be quick to say something it's bida and dua will be rejected just bcus you frown upon it. Many others sects, even if their school of thoughts say a practice is weak, they do not go around to claim it is bidah. They just leave it as it is. We have giant of Ulama who have been practicing it for centuries but today, someone said it is bida and dua was rejected?. That not acceptable.

Nafizzey:
what if one wipes his face after making dua. what happens to his dua? Because I see people most often wipe their face after making Dua... is that wrong?? Pls elaborate..

See, you may just have to research and do what is right. Opinions vary on the issue of wiping face with your hands after making dua. It is up to you. But to say the dua is null and void, that's way off. No scholars said that as this brother portrayed. Majority early scholars (save few) including 4 madhabs consider it Sunnah but later scholars from certain region of Middle East consider it bid'a. Students of Hanafi school consider it Sunnah. Matter of fact,I made mistake earlier when i said Hambali school go against it. he doesnt. Those who consider it weak from early scholars never said it is bidah. It is only some scholars from area of middle east said so. So their opinion doesnt matter.

Up to you if you want to wipe your face or not. The thing is, people dont want to take chance to lose any baraka from the prophet or dua...Daif or not is matter of "science of hadith". Some sahaba too did not take the chance from the prophet. Some even drank his fluid seeking baraka. Was recorded that prophet would condemn it sometimes. Sometimes he just laughed. Which means it is irrelevant whether you wiped your face or not. It has no negative effect on sincere dua you make to Allah.There is nothing bidatic wiping your face. Do it or not is up to you.


"A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings." - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)


Ponder over this brilliant words of nabi(saw). ^ The hands you spread and make dua with are heavy and their is barakat in it. Wipe your face with it if you want. I dont take chance to miss anything in islam as long as i am capable to do so. It is your choice.

Go through this thread and read wide opinions. It is too wide for anyone to claim it is bid'a. It is simply NOT. Even if it is daef, still doesnt mean it is bidah.

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?317953-Is-wiping-the-face-after-dua-bidah

lexiconkabir:
Yeah case closed! Because no single authentic hadeeth from the prophet, i don't know who claimed raising of hands is not prescribed when we have authentic hadeeth on that, i wonder if Abu ddawood that declared it daeef did so because he doesnt agree with it, if that was the case he wouldnt bring the hadeeth in the first place, would he? common dont just make claims, prove them, don't slander Muslims.

I am not slandering muslims. I was simply referring to Imam at my masjid who made the claim. And since you dont know him, whats your point?

Set it straight. All those Ulama around the world who have been raising their hands and wiping their faces, their dua were not answered and rejected?. Just say Yes so I know where you stand. That's all I want to know

lexiconkabir:
As you've said, lets assumed you've agreed its bidiah;

If you deliberately add up an action in your fard salaah which is not part of it, is it only that added action that will be rejected or all of it? Note the word "deliberately".

I missed this part. See, I am sick of this. You people always play this trick. You said fard salat here. But earlier you simply talked about dua. Making dua is optional. Like for instance, I decided to make dua before i go to bed and wipe my face after that. So this has nothing to do with obligatory practices. Dont know why you brought it. Obligatory practices are LEGISLATED. If someone adds to it Deliberately it is null and void. That's bid'a No questions asked. If it by mistake, we already know how to rectify it. So bringing obligatory salat into this is irrelevant. Dua we talking about here is random one. See, this is the game those Alfas played with Sheikh Habib. He is saying A...they are saying B and he got tired of them. So you can not correlate fard with random dua. Just doesn't add up.

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By the same token apply it to dua, because dua is ibaadah according to the prophet, and as we know ibaadah can't be done anyhow except when prescribed by the accepter of the ibaadah Himself(Allaah).

Then, random dua you make in your dialect is bida bcuz the prophet simply did not teach you that. You have to say the random dua exactly as prophet said it. Dont translate. Translating it too constitutes bid'a. You people dont understand religion at all. Sorry to speak. I have said before that you people are mixing fard and sunnan and also mixing different sunnah together. Standard you are using is, you are saying every muslim MUST memorize hadith just as Quran. It is possible to memorize entire Quran but not hadith. NEVER. In that case, there is no way a muslim can possibly know every sunnah head to toe.

Now, here is your homework, there is a hadith about sending salawa on the prophet(SAW). Prophet did not prescribe when or where to say it. He only recommends it. But Madhabs differ on reciting salawa after tashahud (in obligatory salat). Some say it is obligatory and without saying it, salat is void. Others say it's mustahab. None of these mentioned by the prophet. Is it bida or sahih?. far as i am concern, I started reciting salat ibrahimiyah after tashahud in 2006. NEVER before that. So all my salat before that null and void? Thats your homework

No, we do our homework by separating falsehood attributed to the prophet, one of them is this action, which came through weak ahadeeth.

No, you can not say it is falsehood bcus even though Abu Daud did not say that. If something is daef, why are you relegating it to Mawḍūʻ (fabricated). Is that what Abu Daud called it or you just came up with yours?. If a narration is daef doesnt mean ti is false. The least you can do is place it at the bottom. Now you have changed its classification from daef to fabricated hadith.

lexiconkabir,

Exactly Deaf. I was expecting that. Case close. You fell for it BIG TIME.

That just reminds me of Alfa saying, " you better watch what you say about nabi(SAW) about all these sahih, daef etc. We came to this world to find these things". So you can post website saying it is daef. There is no way you can "authentically" proof whether the prophet did not say it or not. The people that daef ahadith simply do not agree with wiping faces. Case closed.

You can see clearly majority muslims wipe their faces. Thats not by accident. So it is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT TO CLAIM IT IS BIDA. That's overboard. Whoever wants to wipe their face can do so after dua. Nothing is daef about it. Since they also claimed raising hands was not sunnah before they retracted their stance, i no longer take them serious anymore.

So all ulama who have been wiping their faces all this years, their dua were rejected?. Joke of the century


Note, I knew this thread isnt about this. I wanted to ignore but i was compelled bcus i believe you passed wrong info by saying dua will be rejected for wiping face. So daef or not, it is optional and have no effect on dua one makes to Allah. Matter of fact, their is another hadith which says, telling people that their dua will not be answered bcus of so so and so, Allah steps in and answers the dua and says, what are you going do about it?

Case closed

This is Congregational Dhikr towards the end of this lecture. This is Sheikh Adam Abdulahi(ra) with his students in congregational dhikr.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du_koWhJiFE

lexiconkabir:
It's an innovation, bidiah.

Innovated idea?. Really?. Even a nigerian Sheik called Abdul Majeed Eleha did not say it is bid'a. He said prophet wiped his face once but in most cases he doesnt. Because of that he exhorts his followers that since prophet did it once, they should follow the practice he did most (i:e hands down after dua).

Now, let's bring it on. It is really bid'a to wipe face after dua?. First, what is bid'a without quoting any Sheik or opinion of anyone. Just bid'a itself without stretching its meaning. Bid'a is a practice not done by the prophet PERIOD. Very simple. We ain't going to sahaba yet. Lets stop where prophet stopped for now. Did the nabi (sallaAllahu alaiy wasallam) wiped his face after making dua or not?. Yes. not even a one time.


1) عن عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه قال : كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم إذا رفع يديه في الدعاء لم يحطهما حتى يمسح بهما وجهه”Umar Bin Khattab (radiyallaahu anhu) reports: When Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) would to raise his hands in du’a, he would not lower them until he passed them over his face” (Sunan Al-Tirmizhi, #3386)Ibn Hajr Asqalani has classified the above Hadith as sound. (Bulugh Al-Muraam, pg 264, Dar Al-Fikr)



Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Messenger of Allah [pbuh] said: “Do not cover the walls. He who sees the letter of his brother without his permission, sees Hell-fire. Supplicate Allah (SWT) with the palms of your hands; do not supplicate Him with their backs upwards. When you finish supplication, wipe your faces with them.” [Abu Dawud & Musnad-e-Ahmad]The Hadeeth narrated by Ibn Abbas (RA) related by Abi Dawud and others. Put together, they confirm that it (this Hadeeth) is Hasan.


Verdict of Shawkani (RA) in Naylul Awtaar: Imam Shawkani (RA) accepts this narration as Hasan in Naylul Awtaar



Narration of Umar Bin Khattab (RA) in Tirmidhi: حَدَّثَنَا ‏ ‏أَبُو مُوسَى مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى ‏ ‏وَإِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَ ‏ ‏وَغَيْرُ وَاحِدٍ ‏ ‏قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا ‏ ‏حَمَّادُ بْنُ عِيسَى الْجُهَنِيُّ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏حَنْظَلَةَ بْنِ أَبِي سُفْيَانَ الْجُمَحِيِّ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏سَالِمِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏أَبِيهِ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ ‏ ‏رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ‏ ‏قَالَ ‏كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ‏ ‏صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ‏ ‏إِذَا رَفَعَ يَدَيْهِ فِي الدُّعَاءِ لَمْ يَحُطَّهُمَا حَتَّى يَمْسَحَ بِهِمَا وَجْهَهُ ‏
Musaa Muhammad ibn Al-Muthannaa and Ibraahim ibn Ya’qub and more than one stating that Hammaad ibn ‘Eesaa Al-Juhani narrated to us from Hanthalah ibn Abi Sufyaan Al-Jumahiy from Saalim ibn Abdullah from his father (Abdullah ibn Umar) from Umar ibn Al-Khattab (radhiya Allahu ‘Anhu) who said that Rasulullah (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) when raising his hands in du’aa, would not put them down until he had wiped his face with them.

So even if it was done once by nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam), that's evidence. So clealry from this ahadith, it is NOT bid'a. You think it is by accident majority Africans, Asian and some part of Middle East wipe their faces?. There must have been evidences for it. Didnt islamqa see these ahadith?. Matter of fact, I got more narrations. but this are enough for now.

'Aishah (May Allaah be pleased with her) reported:
Messenger of Allaah (ﷺ) said, "If anyone introduces in our matter something which does not belong to it, will be rejected".

The narration in Muslim says: "If anybody introduces a practice which is not authenticated by me, it is to be rejected".

Both hadeeths are authentic..

This hadith narrated by Aisha(ra) only gives general meaning. It is not specific in this case or any other cases. If you think making dua any how to Allah in other manners not recommended is bid'a, it means making dua in local dialect is bid'a too. What you failed to understand is, there is nothing wrong in it if it is not directly recommended. What is wrong is supplicating to other than Allah, not being certain in one's dua like saying "if you wish accept my dua" etc. Stuff like this are what should be condemned. Not everyone has access to all ahadith and not everyone understands them. Therefore, Quran and hadith have set guidelines. Does not have to be specific words as prophet said it except some that are easily memorized. Not everyone is capable of doing so. What is legislated in worship are salat, ramadan etc as you rightly said. Other aspect of worship are flexible with conditions that you call on Allah and divert you dua to Him alone. However you want to do that is up to individual.

So that dua will be rejected,

Let's assume for the sake of this that wiping face is bida. Someone supplicates to Allah validly and then wipes his face. What is rejected is wiping face not the dua itself. I am saying this in case you consider wiping bida. The dua is not rejected but wiping face is. Afterall, after my post up there, face wiping is not bida. It is Sunnah. By the way, it seems these "people of sunnah" are inconsistent. At masjid where i seldom make jum'a, imam once said "dont raise your face it is bid'a. It doesnt matter how long it is being done in your tradition, it is not practiced by nabi" I just dey smile. It means you people aren't doing your homework thoroughly or you chose area that pleaases you. Finally, the method you and islamqa used is that of Hambali school. Other schools of Thought favor wiping face. This is why dont stick to one madhab even though i grew up with Malik school. I scrutinize all of them. What one school has other may not have. In this case only Hanbali school go against it.

wallau alam

People doing it don't make it right, Islam in this part of the world has gone beyond that, whatever you do as act of ibaadah, it should be legislated, such that if i ask "why are you doing this act" you can confidently say "because the prophet did it"

already tackled

ShootToKill:
Close your odoriferous ewedugerian mouth, you should be one getting your 'shot'. Why didn't you champion the arrest of your dog-and-baboon master who was threatening heaven and hell should he lose the election? I guess your dullharry was preaching peace talking about blood of dogs and baboons.
To you his enslaved sycophants, I guess he has more right to threaten others than kanu does, because his marauding forefathers, conquered enslaved and kick our your coward amala-swallowing fathers from Illorin. So you give him more respect and fear him than Kanu's peaceful people. Get outta here!

Could you please STOP derailing this thread if you have nothing meaningful to say?. Thank You

tintingz,

Here comes interesting part in your response to Mr. sino. Not only is percentage gap is beyond word but polyandry itself is nonexistence in societies.


A comprehensive survey of traditional societies in the world shows that 83.39% of them practice polygyny, 16.14% practice monogamy, and .47% practice polyandry. [size=18pt]Almost all of the few polyandrous societies practice what anthropologists call fraternal polyandry, where a group of brothers share a wife. Nonfraternal polyandry, where a group of unrelated men share a wife, is virtually nonexistent in human society.[/size] Why is nonfraternal polyandry so rare?



Legal definitions


First, let’s once again get the terminology straight, as we did once before. Monogamy is the marriage of one man to one woman, polygyny is the marriage of one man to more than one woman, and polyandry is the marriage of one woman to more than one man. Polygamy, even though it is often used in common discourse as a synonym for polygyny, refers simultaneously to both polygyny and polyandry. Scientists therefore tend not to use this ambiguous term.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200806/why-are-there-virtually-no-polyandrous-societies

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Tintingz,

What is the percentage of POLYANDROUS women WORLDWIDE?

As you can see in the links, even polygamy is bolstering in the West, from 2001 to 2015 was a big jump. Eventually in years to come, it would be welcomed and favored over mono and polyandry. As you can see from the links, polyandry is frown upon.

ShootToKill:
Of we know the wicked zoogerians that believe in torture, they are wicked yoruba muslims and hausas. They are the one praying to their miserable Allah and bloodletting pedophile mohammed that Activist Kanu be kept in prison despite being innocent.

These group of people deserve no pity whatsoever. That's why when I see them bleed too, I become happy.

You are obviously off topic out of hate and ignorance. There are muslims tortured as well in various Western countries. So get your hate off this thread. I am no supporter of torture but you Kanu threatening govt was treasonous case, Why didnt you advice him to keep his mouth shot before getting nabbed?

supersystemsng:
I quite agree but what of this ? Why don't the president offer banks incentives so loans for food production can be easily acquired ?

Still in agreement with me. We sayin the same thing.

Why don't we work on the projects and reseach documented in Journals that our varsities have been reaserchin on for decades ?

This is another subject. Food comes first. Americans dont play with food

Why don't we encourage farmers to get long-term loans they can pay in say 20years ?

Incentives comes before this. They can repay loan they cant afford

Why don't we give free duties on Agricultural implements ? Try importing a tractor and see what customs would slam on it

Good idea. Nigeria still has hope so long as many think like you

Rafidi:
brother, are those attachments the only ahadith found in regards to prostration on the earth? those hadiths do not contradict praying on earth or from products of the earth. if you had read the preceding posts, we wont have to rehearse. we Shia maintain based on the prophetic hadith, that we should pray as the Prophet (s) prayed. from all indications, we insist that we pray on the earth. if we cant pray on the earth, then we can pray on any material that is a product of the earth. khumrah or palm leaf is fine. wooden mats are also fine. even paper is fine to prostrate on if you cannot prostrate on the earth. however, it is evident from a number of sources that prostration is on the earth.

My concern really is, say for instance, you enter to pray in a masjid already furnished with carpet or rug, do you think it is still necessary to prostrate on that little clay of yours?. If so why since the place is already earthy and clean?. What other excuse do you have?.

For the mat, it is only carried for space, or to avoid praying with cloth on dirts, etc. Not specifically for prostration or anything of sort. If i enter masjid and already carried my rug with me, but I am fortunate to get a space, the rug means nothing. It is not about prostration.

Like me, I carry my carpet in my car all the time in case i travel and it is prayer time. I can always stop by roadside and pray. Purpose of this is in case the area is not pleasant. Not becuz of prostrating on it. But from what i gathered, you seem to attach importance to the clay which is what I am against. There is no importance with mat, rug or carpet with me.

the prostration on persian rugs or turkish carpets is an innovation. even Ibn Taymiyyah had passed a fatwa against it. it is an innovation in salat that later came to be accepted.

really dont know how this is innovation to begin with. Is it bcuz of the name tag or what?. rug is rug. carpet is carpet unless it is made of port skin.

Yyeske:
Don't mind them, local Nigerian foodstuff were imported from India and intercepted recently but i trust many Nigerians will buy it for their love for imports yet they shout naira is falling

Thats the problem. They don't want to return to farm. Everybody wants "office jobs" with suit and tie. But I think govt should provide incentive to farmers to bolster local workers. If they continue this way, it is finished. Nigeria should never be importing food for that matter.

I think ban should be on imported food rather than cars (at least for now). This should encourage folks to return to farm.

hobermener:
Unbelievable?? Op you day craze Buhari is giving us Xmas bonus, at least if I send $1000 I my mama go get #500,000. Sai buhari!!! Baba we are with you. Sai baba till 2023 insha Allah, change is here finally

The only way you could be favored as a diasporan is if PMB could stabilize prices which is almost impossible.

hobermener:
Unbelievable?? Op you day craze Buhari is giving us Xmas bonus, at least if I send $1000 I my mama go get #500,000. Sai buhari!!! Baba we are with you. Sai baba till 2023 insha Allah, change is here finally

I remember in 2014 when it took 6000$ to save for 1 million naira. shm...everything is messed up.

You may think it is good for folks in diaspora but it is really a fraud coming from IMF. It is not PMB's fault as ignorant nigerians assume

hobermener:
Unbelievable?? Op you day craze Buhari is giving us Xmas bonus, at least if I send $1000 I my mama go get #500,000. Sai buhari!!! Baba we are with you. Sai baba till 2023 insha Allah, change is here finally

lol....hilarious. tola9ja

Keneking:
It is finished on the cross of CBN forex management unit

Informative but not surprised.

Thanks for posting

mufutau55:
YES. I was a Mod. I was fired (sacked) long time ago, without a reason... probably for not doing my job well. Since then, I have been un-employed o.
So, whatever happens about Moderating this Forum is no concern of mine... but I will be on this forum (not on this thread) doing whatever I can.

Hajji M.

Lol...I see. It is good to be "unemployed" sometimes. It takes off "responsibilities" off your shoulders

mufutau55:
We don start all the kata-kata again in this thread... time to "Un-Follow". Good-bye guys.

Hajji M.

I thought you are MOD, you should be able to properly coordinate it and get it back on trck. Me, I want to see buildings again.

Let's keep it rolling

And I dont even want to get involved in unnecessary argument over this. It is has been treated over and over. People who go against Mawlud are simply using certain criteria to discredit it. Like saying "celebrating death of the prophet". Nauzubillah. This is wrong. That's all I'm going to address.

There is no dispute on the month he was born and the month he passed. Dispute was the 'day' he was born. Similarly his death, the 'day' was disputed but not the month. So to say he was also born in Ramadan or Shaban was simply a way to distort things and discourage people.


Leave people alone if you don't want Mawlud. They did not tell you it's universal acceptable sunnah. And is not about "happy birthday to you muhammad. ......happy birthday to you". That's rubbish!

Lol. ..it's that time of the year. I was expecting this muhahahahagaha

Tola9ja

Well, EVERY BIDA IS HELL RIGHT?

InterNational Quran competition Only started in 1961 in capital city of Malaysia. This was long after the prophet (saw) had gone. This practice is all over Muslim world. By definition of bidah being thrown around daily, this Quran competition is bidah as well. Agreed?

true2god:
I watched with an open mind and I am not dogmatic. He made many allegations against your prophet and I never personally seen your refuttal. You can refute him personally with counter hadith narrations.

Open mind indeed.

If you watched with "open mind", it shouldn't be difficult for you to see many responses by Muslims directed at him.

Both written and video responses but the guy simply ignored them. That's why we ignored him too.