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Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 11:17am On Jul 22, 2016

dare2differ:
I thought you guys would avoid this thread. It seems like you don't know who the op is. Please ignore this thread.

You need to delete every of your post on this thread!

Mrrights

Islam › Re: This Muslim Cleric Urged All Muslims To Convert To Christian To Avoid Hell Fire! by Empiree: 11:16am On Jul 22, 2016

truthman2012:
What do you mean by "derail" when the subject of the op is about 'hellfire'?

Dodging!!!

face front and comment on the video. That's the bone of contention. Your opinion on the ahadith you posted is irrelevant. I am sure it was previously discussed with you and others.

Christianity Etc › Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 11:04am On Jul 22, 2016

parisbookaddict:
For the record
1. i didnt read all the boring epistle of a reply u posted ^^^.

2. I really don't expect the exmuslim man to automatically convert to Christianity. It takes a while eg ali sina just embraced Christianity last year after decades as an exmuslim atheist.
The important tthing is that he has admitted mohammed was a fraud and admits he wasted 16years studying about the life of a paedophile rapist. Believe me many of his YouTube muslim audience will question Islam and some will renounce Islam.

Shalom.

Your opinion

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Islam › Re: This Muslim Cleric Urged All Muslims To Convert To Christian To Avoid Hell Fire! by Empiree: 12:04am On Jul 22, 2016

truthman2012:
Forget the video for now and concentrate on the tafsir of your famous islamic scholar (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir). It is not my writing you know ! What do you have to say about it?

Don't derail. Thanks

Islam › Re: This Muslim Cleric Urged All Muslims To Convert To Christian To Avoid Hell Fire! by Empiree: 8:35pm On Jul 21, 2016

lool truthman2012, did you understand the video at all?. Do you need help to understand what he's saying?. I will give you 2nd chance to watch and digest what the man said i the video.

Op, dont know your intention but did you post this satirically for the Christians or you dont understand what the man is saying?

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Christianity Etc › Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 4:54pm On Jul 21, 2016*

Farmerforlife:
Well worth reading it bro, if only to see the current trend of their polemics. In reality though, the guy said nothing new, just a rehash of what the Makkan idolators accused the prophet (ﷺ) of. Funny enough, he first of all stated that he doubted that the prophet (ﷺ) even existed, then went on to a whole lot of wild speculation about the 'non-existent' personality. Speculation garbed in a false cloak of pseudo-science. Really though, one cannot expect any ground breaking discovery after 14 centuries, from someone who spent a few years researching some online sites.

I am honestly tired of reading those stuff. I have some collections by James White, a christian apologist. I wont mention the title. So fascinating. Thats what enticed me to buy it in the first place. I even have subscription to their book store. So I am updated. Pretty much no breaking news on this issue in 21st century. Whoever wants to read this one may go ahead.

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Islam › Re: This Muslim Cleric Urged All Muslims To Convert To Christian To Avoid Hell Fire! by Empiree: 4:35pm On Jul 21, 2016

Christianity Etc › Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 2:30pm On Jul 21, 2016*

parisbookaddict:
I know the exmuslim U are talking about. He is a white guy. Got tired of defending Islam in his YouTube videos. Most Muslim converts renounce Islam in the 7th year Mark. He actually tried lasting 16years. Now his work as an exmuslim just got started. I read so many of the comments coming from fellow exmuslims on his denouncement video was so proud of them.. So many. He now receives death threats from ur bros..

We all know Mohammed was a sexual deviant. This book is unique in that it tries to explain his crimes from the angle from poor mental health. U should read it, very interesting.

You don't get it do you ?. Am glad you know who am talking about. Did he boldly and clearly say he returned to Christianity?. Answer that please. He refused to answer. I was one of those who asked him questions. His trouble and allegations still have nothing to do with message of Islam. Now dont pretend you did not see rebuttal videos against his allegations. Why didn't you say that?.

I am not really interested reading the book bcus it is repetition of the old garbage. I thought they brought something new. The allegation is about individual character not about islam. So what exactly are they trying to proof?. That he brought wrong religion?. Since you claimed you read comments as I did, you did not read where he was asked about his new faith?. He refused to say. A guy gave me his fake Facebook account. I see his new "faith" is a mix of Judaism and Christianity. That's hypocrisy. He actually distanced himself from Christianity. I asked him if he now believes Jesus is Lord?. He said his belief in Jesus remains the same as Muslims. He then compared "who is greater btw Yashua and Muhammad". Did you read that part?.

He's now trying to panel-beat old testament when we asked him about sexual immorality and crimes in the bible. He has nothing to say about that . So his claims are null and void. Far as those who threatened him are concerned, if indeed you read comments, I personally apologized on their behalf. And those Muslims are only 3 not majority of Muslims threatened him. He said it himself . He mentioned 3 ppl who threatened him.

Then again, note that it was reported that he left islam some 3-4 yrs ago. So his conversion is not recent. I thought it was recent when he woke us up in the middle of the night at the beginning of Ramadan about his renouncement. So he has been hypocrite bcus he continued visiting mosques and poking fun. Did you watch his video where he went to the mosque pretending to be Muslim and videoed inside the mosque and making silly comments?. Thats hypocrisy and very dangerous to his well being like that. The dude is confused. He's going to end as atheist.

So I am sorry maam....nothing is new here. Try harder next time. I am ahead of you. I basically remained silent on this issue. I knew since the beginning of Ramadan bcus i got alert on my phone and all my social media accounts except this one. He is not the first to act like this. Many did same thing and worst before him. Where are they now?. To sum it all, the brother is going through crisis of Faith. At this point, it is inappropriate to abuse or threatening him. He may as well return to Islam. Maybe he's the author of this book under this English name J.K Sheindlin or maybe not. But this author J.K Sheindlin said on his fb page that he's not ex-muslim. So if the author was never Muslim, why should i take him serious?.

This is YouTube comment on his video an hr ago in response to his video

Ehsan Firouzi1 hour ago
dude! the bible has fu!ked up sh!t in it too. you know that right? i find it really annoying when muslims leave Islam and the christians try to convert them into another dumb religion.

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Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 12:01am On Jul 21, 2016

ShiaMuslim:
^^^

You aren't telling me anything new. I think it's high time you reason with me here. Don't think i don't know what your saying. You may know what you talking about but one thing is knowledge - another thing is wisdom.

My point is this thread is not for what you feeding it. Be reasonable here brother. This thread is questioning Islam altogether and sectarianism won't solve it. There is a way around everything. What you saying is a matter among Muslims not the other way.

Christianity Etc › Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 9:11pm On Jul 20, 2016*

parisbookaddict:
Em.piree permit me for doubting u but u always claim refutation when there is none... in our arguments u claim refutation while u just insult.

Why i find this book intresting is because it comes from an angle i have suspected for a long time and it is that mohammed probably had mental illness..u claim to have talked to the author and he avoids u as well as ur muslim brothers discussing this book during ramandan, meaning this book really bothered you if u indeed try reading it.. i shall read this book.. Empi.ree download it and be brave enough to read it to the end..

You know how long I have been hearing this allegation @bolded?....since my childhood. Nothing is new to me anymore.

You said "probably" @ underlined, meaning you not sure. Knowledge is pretty buddy. Now, just when Ramadan started, a guy, a white guy uploaded video making the same allegations about sextual immorality of the prophet (saw) auzubillah. Although it came as a shock to muslims bcus he was muslim for 16 yrs according to him but his knowledge of islam is only lugha (Arabic language). Nothing more. So he feels he knows islam now. That makes him a suspect that he came for some reason to learn arabic and use it against muslims. Within a week, he's refuted by muslims who also uploaded videos to counter him.

He was badly EXPOSED. He has fake fb page where he's confused about his new faith. We asked him what his new religion is. DEFINITELY NOT CHRISTIANITY bcus everything he accused islam of is there in his bible plus he was a former christian. What he and this one are doing is they quote hadith from the middle and leave top and bottom parts to make a claim. At least 2 brothers have brilliant refutations knowing fully well the allegations were refuted centuries and decades back.

What's funny is the dude doesn't respond to their rebuttals. He just keeps making videos and that put off some people. Then again, nigerian scholars refuted these nonsense. I'm not saying this author but the same allegations.

Now all the allegations they brought are only distractions from message of islam. You know why? . In the grave and Hereafter, no muslim will be asked about how the prophet or his companions or anyone else in those days lived.

Questions In The Grave Are Clear To Muslims. They are as follows:

Who Is Your Lord?

Who Is Your Prophet?

What Is Your Religion?

So where are those allegations raised by the author in these questions?. That's why he's irrelevant.

On the day of Judgement we are asked individually how we lived our lives. Not how Muhammad(p), his companions, wives and other people lived. It has nothing to do with us. On that Day, you and I are accountable for our deeds not what or how people who came before us lived. Again, that makes him irrelevant. Get it? .

Only illiterate muslims listen to his trash and get carried away by his nonsense. Whatever is written in the hadith about someone or people that are not part of our religious duties are for educational purposes. So they are easily discarded by muslims who chose to. VERY SIMPLE

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Christianity Etc › Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 8:22pm On Jul 20, 2016

Don't know why I rushed to read it (at least some of it). I thought they've got something new to tell us not knowing it's the same old trash undecided

His claims on the cover are brilliantly refuted many times before this book even came about. They just refuted some of it again in Nigeria during Ramadan a month ago not to talk of many recent YouTube uploads refuting same old trash by a guy who claimed to used to be muslim.

I even talked to the guy, the author on Facebook but he stylishly avoids me. His fb page is so dry. He's just seeking attention like the op

Sorry, you brought nothing new maam

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Melania Trump Plagiarised Michelle Obama's Speech - PUNCH by Empiree: 7:12pm On Jul 20, 2016

morule20:
This is not plagiarism, people can have d same thought sometimes. Trump all d way.

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 4:57pm On Jul 20, 2016

cyojunior1:
Anx means of downloading the video

cyojunior1:
Hi brother ! Are there no other means of downloading those video instead of streaming live ! Jst for the sake of continuous learning

You can try www.keepvid.com

Type the address in your address bar. Click on Youtube video you wish to watch. Copy the YouTube video link and paste it in keepvid video download. You should download one video at a time if your airtime is slow.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Melania Trump Plagiarised Michelle Obama's Speech - PUNCH by Empiree: 2:39pm On Jul 20, 2016

morule20:
This is not plagiarism, people can have d same thought sometimes. Trump all d way.

Lie!!!!!!

I saw her cheating grin

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 4:52am On Jul 20, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym3Znb0wb7s

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:59pm On Jul 19, 2016

Yathrib

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Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 5:24pm On Jul 19, 2016

Seun:
What can be done about the Wahhabi school of Islam, which is being funded by Saudi Arabians? Is terrorism here to stay until their oil is gone?

So it is narrowed down to "Wahabbism" now?. Dont get caught up in that sectarian trash, sir. Did you even study "Wahabi"'s oil connection with the West in the regime of King Faisal?. Then US secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger who cajoled the King to sell oil for US $$. The king fell for it in direct violation of Allah's Law. The West is happy and there is no such thing as terrorism bcus its all worked i their favor.

Later, the King Faisal publicly voiced his support for the struggles of his muslim brothers in Palestine being persecuted by the zionists, which is not in the best interest of the West. What did they do?. They killed him(terrorism). King Faisal was shot point-blank and killed by his half-brother's son, Faisal bin Musaid, who had just come back from the United States. The dude returned from US with brief cases filled with $$$. That's blood money funded by the CIA. Before this time, we don't necessarily hear "wahabi terrorists" until after this incident. So basically, they got rid of Islamic man of peace who was misguided but later woke up from his slumber. The moment he returned to his Islamic senses, they got rid of him. So do you care if this isn't act of terrorism?. That's the start of it.

So now,, I have every right to say after the King's name, King Faisal (rahimohum Llahu - May God have mercy on him). Remember it was this King that completely abolished slavery in the peninsula in 1962. You may need to inform yourself on this issue of "petro-dollar". That's the genesis of terrorism. King Faisal did not want to be part of it until he was seduced by the US. He wanted to use "Sunna money" legislated by the Qur'an.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Islamic Perspectives On FAMILY PLANNING by Empiree: 4:39pm On Jul 19, 2016*

Walaikum Salam

It is not necessarily against Sharia when condition arises like recession. I dont think it is appropriate to simply say it is against the Shariah without explanation. Recently, Tukey authority decried family planning because they believe it is anti-Shariah. They said there should be no restriction of production on male and female. This is also because their economy is doing well. Dont forget that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/30/family-planning-not-for-muslims-says-turkeys-president-erdogan/

On the subject, your case may be diff bcus of nigeria situation but you are best to access your situation personally. When it comes to Islamic point of view in a sound economy, abeg, give birth to as many children as you want for Allah and His messenger grin

them go take care of them. grin

Nigeria is said to be some 150 million people. That's a lot and consider economy situation may be quiet stressful. In that case, let me bring you similar situation with respect to Egypt.

In a statement issued by the Fiqh Council (al-Majma’ al-Fiqhi) with regard to family planning. It was held during its fifth conference in Kuwait 1-6 Jumaada al-Aakhir 1409 AH (10-15 December 1988) – after studying the research presented by members and experts on the subject of family planning, and listening to the debate that took place on this topic, and based on the fact that one of the objectives of marriage according to Islamic sharee’ah is to reproduce and preserve the human race, and that it is not permissible to undermine this objective, because undermining it goes against the texts and teachings of sharee’ah, which call for having many children, protecting them and taking care of them, because producing and caring for offspring is one of the five kulliyaat (holistic principles) which sharee’ah came to take care of – issued the following resolutions:

1 – It is not permissible to issue laws that limit the freedom of couples to have children.

2 – It is haraam to remove the ability of men and women to have children, which is known as sterilization, so long as there is no need to do so according to shar’i principles.

3 – It is permissible to use temporary means of contraception in order to increase the gaps between pregnancies, or to stop them for a limited period of time, if there is a valid shar’i reason for doing so, based on the couple’s estimation and with mutual consultation and agreement, subject to the condition that this does not result in harm and that the means is acceptable according to sharee’ah and will not damage any existing pregnancy.

Wallahu Allam

Sources:

Resolution no. 38 (1/5), re: Family planning.

Majallat al-Majma’, vol. 1, p. 73)

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:15am On Jul 19, 2016

Do You Remember The Story of Juhayman al-'Utaybi - The Siege Of Mecca By A Self Proclaimed Imam Mahdi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj-JkIoOO-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TOsizlpOss

Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 8:52pm On Jul 17, 2016

^

smh.....u dont seem to get it, do you?. I understand where you driving at but that's not the point here really.

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Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 8:04pm On Jul 17, 2016

Rafidi:
why is this not irrelevant? is he Shia? why is this Sunni threatening Sunni-Wahhabi Saudi?

Bro, I only posted this for seun, usermane and the likes. I'm not about sectarian bcus that doesn't make sense here. Seun is addressing islam and muslims which concerns you and i.

If you paid close attention you would see that the brother that made this video refuted this angry man's view on ISLAM

Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 7:28pm On Jul 17, 2016

usermane:
To buttress my my points above, I recommend these videos to Seun and those who care for proofs. These documentaries exposes the titular moderate Muslims who may condemn terrorists groups like ISIS yet share the same hate-filled and radical discourse detailed in their religious texts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJk_AiK-4No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRKaX0ORuI

Counterclaim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-o9EAAnzh0

Cc: Seun

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Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 5:18pm On Jul 17, 2016*

usermane:
[color=#990000]1. Sunan Abi Dawud>>Book of Prescribed Punishments

2. Jami` at-Tirmidhi » Chapters on Seeking Permission

3. Sunan Abi Dawud » Book of Prescribed Punishments

These points you raised are exceptional cases and they have their context, sir. Especially number 2. Please do not recontextualize them. There is more to it that you avoided. Either you dont know or you deliberately avoided it. You may as well quote "muhammad said i have been ordered to kill ppl until they say shahada." Ahadith like these have their contexts. Some are mistakenly misinterpreted when it comes to English. The verbs get messed up. Please study further since you love to research. Be sincere please. Yes, there are fake ones but not all the time.

Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 4:39pm On Jul 17, 2016

^^
please let's maintain decorum here. This thread was opened by non-muslim. He's pretty much watching our activities but as usual but he wont respond. He opened this this thread to hear our views. So please dont turn this "them vs us". Face the topic

TV/Movies › Re: Empire Season 3 Is Coming, Everything You Need To Know About The Movie by Empiree: 4:34pm On Jul 17, 2016

krattoss:
dopest movie of all time...

see how they keep giving us new new faces and stuffs...
I will love to see birdman daddy on the set..

when will naija movie feature the likes of tuface' flavour..or any of our celebrities..

EMPIRE.E TILL I DIE

U unconsciously mentioned my moniker. I dont watch this type if movie undecided

Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 6:02am On Jul 17, 2016

ShiaMuslim:
@ Seun,

all the beating around the bush by Muslims on this board will not answer your question. they are either uninformed of the fact, or they are dodging the truth to cover up.

anytime you hear about faith based/related murders/terror/violence, search for the fingerprints of Wahhabism/Salafism.

the below thread will answer your questions with facts and evidence:

https://www.nairaland.com/3170976/terrorism-salafism-vs-islamic-rules

ALL TERRORIST GROUPS FOLLOW THE SALAFIST/WAHHABI IDEOLOGY CENTERED ON TAKFIR (PASSING VERDICT OF DISBELIEF ON OTHERS, EVEN FELLOW MUSLIMS) AND ITS PRODUCE OF TAKFIRI KILLINGS (KILLING ALL THOSE WHO ARE NOT WAHHABI OR WAHHABI ENOUGH).

This is irrelevant. You are just being sectarian. Seun simply sees you and other muslims as MUSLIMS, period. There is no need for this at all. When West attack, they attack ISLAM. They dont give a fig leaf about factions. Donald Trump said today that Hillary must not be allowed to be prez bcus she and obunma failed to call terrorists what they are, "Islamic terrorism". He didn't say wahabi/salafi. If you want to start on that this thread is NOT appropriate for that.

@madridguy, kudos!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Church Baki Iku Destroyed By Muslim Youths For Worshipping On Friday by Empiree: 1:08am On Jul 17, 2016

Run Faster From Christian [size=20pt]PROPAGANDA[/size] machine

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Church Baki Iku Destroyed By Muslim Youths For Worshipping On Friday by Empiree: 12:27am On Jul 17, 2016*

You better watch what you listen to and what you believe these days. Media is nothing but culprits. I wont deny some Muslims misbehave. But with the way Nigerian Christians constantly portray themselves as the victims of every attack made me to re-think. And media is NOT helping at all. It is just too difficult to believe stuff in today's world knowing fully well there is giant hatred for Islam.

Not long ago a woman was killed in the north before recent one that happened in Abuja. The headlined revealed it was muslims that killed her because she refused them to perform ablution in front of her shop. Further investigations show that it was a lie. The woman was killed by hoodrats. Since then the case is muted.
https://www.nairaland.com/3167828/nobody-forced-fast-kakuri-kaduna

Here again, media made false report that some non-muslims were forced to fast in Ramadan which is just incorrect
https://www.nairaland.com/3167828/nobody-forced-fast-kakuri-kaduna

And we have a case of a women murdered in Abuja. It was tagged "Muslims killed her". Just a few days ago, a guy who claimed to live in the area faulted the official reports that she was killed by Muslims. Here is what the dude said:

RoninSignals:
Category1
ALLEGATION:

When ur Islam brothers killed the redeem woman preaching, did u ask if the Muslims commenting are Christians? Fuckboys... As for all these pple wey dey cover face and body dey knack head for ground na Una dey fvck pass and na Una dey do bad things pass. As buhari daughters.

RESPONSE: A woman was killed in Kubwa, Abuja and the headline everywhere is: "Christian woman killed by Muslims for preaching"

I live where the sad incident happened;

It's a multi religious residential area with no previous record of religious quarrels;

We have witnessed several deaths in the same period (days before and after her gruesome murder);

A lot of cult activities go on in the area;

The other deaths are cult / gang related;

Her murder has not been fully investigated [size=15pt]yet but it's likely to be a run in with the hoodlums in the area as she goes out to her preaching very early...the time these gang members / hoodlums usually return from their nefarious activities...[/size]

I've heard this woman preach a couple of times early in the morning; her preaching didn't target other faiths and neither was she provocative in her manner of evangelism.

Those of you using the slightest opportunity to promote religious sentiments and hate that's likely to metamorphose into religious crisis in Nigeria, do you drink human blood or eat human flesh?

What is your gain?

https://www.nairaland.com/3225449/two-nigerian-women-dabbing-mecca#47530034

"PROOF ALL THINGS....HOLD FAST TO WHICH IS GOOD" ~ BIBLE

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Islam › Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 5:01pm On Jul 16, 2016

Seun is becoming a troll in his own company cheesy

. I observed him quiet right. I am not bothered by his recent topics on Islam.

Besides, y'all dont get it, do you?. Someone has just raised good point on p1. I wont mention.

Far As Am Concern, No Muslim. I repeat, No Muslim Is RESPONSIBLE for any act of terrorism we hear on the news. The world leaders know very well what's going on. They know everything EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. We can debate all we want about this. They gonna do what they gonna do. I am not interested in this subject at all because the nonsense has being repeating itself for yrs and no end in sight.

"AND [remember, O Prophet,] how those who were bent on denying the truth were scheming against thee, in order to restrain thee [from preaching], or to slay thee, or to drive thee away: thus have they [always] schemed: but God brought their scheming to nought-for God is above all schemers." ~ AYAT al-Anfal 8:30

"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners." ~ Imran 54

We can debate this all day long. We can condemn these barbaric atrocities all year long. They gonna bring another ones in succession until God unveils His final plan. So be patient and CALM

You watch their Hollywood, Bollywood, Nollywood, Rubbishwood and you see clearly what they do. Why should you be worried?. Or You forgot about NCIS-Los Angeles?. So Keep Calm

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 10:39am On Jul 16, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOyP8J_eIQw

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:00am On Jul 16, 2016

So True

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:51am On Jul 16, 2016

That Awkward Moment When Someone Compliments Your Hijab But You Know They Want To Deport All Muslims.

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