₦airaland Forum

anthoniosp:
give me ten reasons why I should know your pallema gutter? I don't know her and if she is a islamophobic den I don't wanna know her...BT if you truly despise her mutterings den why follow in her footsteps..you call som1 a devil but you do what d person does..den tell me what you are?

Ask google who she is

anthoniosp:
sheen.....see am a christian as you already know.........

1....this is not the only contradiction in the English Bible.... ah ah check in the old testament about number of years and deer are many contradictions in d bible because of translation from the original language to other languages of which Islam no fit even try am

2...oyaa wait you grabbed d whole message na..der was a field and there was a money, deer was a buy der was a Judas and der was a die....so wetin you want hear again...Judas die for field after he betray Jesus..

And you still remain in Christianity after knowing this?.

dolphinheart:
Bros, I believe that statement is easy and simple enough for one to understand na. Did you not see the law I was reffering to there? I'm beggining to seriously fear you o!.
I think this is a poor attempt at changing the direction of these thread.
Guys abeg, what's the final decision on "the camel piss and fly wing cure" discussion .
Have we agreed that the hadith is fabricated? Or that the prophet actually made those postulations and he is right ? Or the prophet made those postulations as an illeterate Arab man and he is wrong ?

Which one do we follow ?

I already arrived at my conclusion. Read up there

Actually drinking urine raw is harmful. It can kill someone. I remember watching documentary back in '08, a guy was lost in the jungle without food and water. He drank his own urine but not before he purified it.

Also recently someone posted article showing process of purification of urine and feces in the presence of Bill Gate. He later drank from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=14&v=bVzppWSIFU0
http://www.gatesnotes.com/Development/Omniprocessor-From-Poop-to-Potable

jcross19:
[s] there are differences between to be subjected to the mosaic law and penalties . Now christian live under grace but not under law any more , if you live under law you are slave it but as a christian believe that the righteous judge is God himself who can still give you a grace to change before you breath your last compare to under a law where you will be judge immediately without second chance like your sharia , amputation , flogging,hanging, stoning and many more , in this type of judgement only the minorities are the victims like people with people with poor background and poor personality. If your allah is merciful and compassionate it suppose to give you second chance but is evil, here in nigeria , the northern part of the country you will see man made handicap due to sharia law check the victim , you find out is poor fellow and they suffer from a lots of deadly diseases like leprosy,polio,slowpoke, blindness infact the highest rate of blindness is from that region didn't have camel urine to cure themselves? .[/s]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2WlWYHcqM

dolphinheart:
Seems I'm getting you small small pls where did I state christianity does not have law, or where did I portray such law free view . Abeg no put igbo for my pocket o. I never made such statement o.

I was wondering naa ! , as to say y u quickly jump to say you disagree and no gree talk wetin u disagree on

This is what you said @underlined

dolphinheart:
Christians are not under obligation to practise the mosaic law. you are the one propagating the false idea and not the bible or Christians.

dolphinheart:
Sir, I'm not watching any video , it is ur own personal reason, belief, view , opinion for dissagreing with me that I want you to post. And post it in words so that we can discuss it

hard to watch. I was simply saying Christianity is not without a law i:e not a law-free religion as you portrayed. So watch your fellow brothers (above). They answered you bro

Malvisguy2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGpDusvtUJo

dolphinheart:Thank God you are not me , ill still wait to see if you will post ur dissagrement .

This video should answer your claim that you Christians don't have to follow old laws. Do you disagree with your fellow Christians here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2WlWYHcqM

author=AllNaijaBlogger post=33905174]@ Emp.iree and Lan.rexlan,

Everything needs a reformation.

Yea, and yourself, too. You need to reform yourself by returning to teachings of Jesus. Watch this. Are your christian brothers here not reformed enough?

The LAWS of the BIBLE WILL STOP BLACK AND HISPANIC VIOLENCE - ISUPK HEBREW ISRAELITES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2WlWYHcqM

Change is the only thing that is constant. Christianity has come to adapt environmentalism after modern science has shown us that our planet is dying.

Trust me, @underlined is . Just depends how you define everything you said up there. I have to agree with you that Christianity has adopted "environmentalism". But do you have any idea implication of this?. I believe you are aware of environmental pollution, destruction of environmental or ozone layer through chlorofluorocarbons, carbon tetrachloride, methyl bromide, methyl chloroform, and halons by the very same people who have adapted environmentalism and modern science called Christians as you called them.

Just few weeks ago, there was air pollution in the UK causing breathing problem, radiation and exposure to cancer risk to mention a few. And you seem to see Islam and Muslims belligerent, anti-progressive. But you failed to question the so called christian environmentalists and modern scientists (Christians as you called them) who dumped nuclear waste and large containers/barrels of refuse from Europe off the coast of Somalia that got many Somalis sick. They used Africa (Somalia especially as garbage bin). This was the reason behind pirates back in 2009, remember?. Similar they did in Gaza. I ask you, is there any justice in that in the name of reforming your religion?.

Obviously, you have proved here again that Christians today aren't following Jesus' teachings. You people digressed already.

Furthermore, many muslim nairalanders have pointed out that stoning is not the punishment for adultery.

How about flogging, are you comfortable with that as well or we need to reform that as well? "Stoning to death" adulterers is in your Bible and upheld/fulfilled by Jesus.

Unfortunately, there are some Islamic socieites where women are stoned.

This was answered^^

Surely, don't you think that those societies should be reformed? Don't they need a more reasonable islam?

When muslims speak of reformation, it's definitely not Islam itself. Rather our own freaking selves. But from non-Muslims definition of 'reform', is crooked and devoid of fundamentals of Islam. Take 'nollyhood' for instance, it's despicable and void of everything Jesus stood for.

Peace. Salaam

walaikum salaam

dolphinheart:
Thank God you are not me , ill still wait to see if you will post ur dissagrement .

Save it for another thread. It will derail this thread if I should start with it.

I stood by my argument that the hadith attributed Aishah(RA) was fabricated for obvious reason. This is no longer an issue to me. Evangelists chose to capitalize on it and some among our ulama continue aiding them ignorantly (by employing lame arguments and excuses) because they do not want to dent sahih hadith.

I have not seen any Islamic scholar quoted hadith that contradicts the so called 6 or 9 yr old Aishah married to 54 yr old prophet, where it portrays Aisha playing with dolls. This is a clear illustration that Aisha portrayed in that hadith was a child. Therefore, it's haram to have sexual intercourse with a child.

Qur'an portrays Aishah as a woman. This can only mean one thing; that the hadith was fabricated. One doesn't need PhD to figure this out. And Allah Knows Best

spyder880:
Halted.

I see

And there’s another issue of great concern here. If Doggart had succeeded at his attack and slaughtered Muslims, ISIS would have been ecstatic. ISIS is hoping for these very types of attacks, which is why they release videos when they kill Christians. ISIS desperately wants Christians to attack Muslims in the West so that it makes ISIS’s recruitment pitch resonate more strongly with young Muslims.

Even though Doggart has been arrested, this case is far from over. As the Islamberg community’s spokesman explained, “We will not feel safe until he and his co-conspirators are behind bars.”

The FBI should be commended for its work in arresting Doggart before he could complete his terrorist plot. But the FBI needs to publicize these types of arrests the same way as when they arrest a Muslim on similar charges and also not hesitate in charging non-Muslims with terror-related crimes. That sends a clear message that the U.S. government is taking these incidents seriously and that Muslim lives matter. Plus, it serves as a powerful deterrent to the Doggarts of this country. This not only upholds our nation’s values, it protects all Americans by undermining ISIS’s sales pitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgi7I1GrpRg

Islamberg has long been a target of right wing groups, which have claimed it is actually a terrorist training ground. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=71&v=ltBCnfomv9M

Doggart, who was also recorded via wiretaps speaking to militia members in Texas and South Carolina, didn’t mince words about his plans for the Muslims of Islamberg: “We will be cruel to them. And we will burn down their buildings [Referring to their mosque and school.] ...and if anybody attempts to harm us in any way... we will take them down.”
He also detailed the weapons he would use in the attack, including an M-4 military assault rifle, armor-piercing ammunition, explosives, pistols, and a machete, because “If it gets down to the machete, we will cut them to shreds.”

Doggart expressed a hope that he would survive the terror attack, but explained, “I understand that if it’s necessary to die [in this attack] then that’s a good way to die.”

Doggart planned to travel to Islamberg on April 11 to do some reconnaissance. However, the FBI arrested him on April 10, before he could depart. Doggart was charged with violating a federal statute that makes it a crime to damage or destroy any religious property (or attempt to do so) and to use interstate communication to plan to injure persons. Astoundingly, however, he was not charged with any terrorism-related crimes.

On April 24, Doggart entered into a plea agreement, pleading guilty to one count of making threats via the phone, and he will be fined up to $250,000 and spend as much as five years in prison pending a judge’s approval of the deal.

It goes without saying that if Doggart had been Muslim and had planned to kill Christians in America, we would have seen wall-to-wall media coverage. Fox News would have cut into its already-daily coverage of demonizing Muslims to do a special report really demonizing Muslims. And few can doubt that a Muslim would’ve been charged with terrorism-related crimes.

One big reason for the lack of media coverage was that neither the FBI nor the U.S. Attorney’s Office put out a press release about Doggart’s arrest. In contrast, the FBI office in Knoxville, the one that handled this investigation, has posted press releases for numerous other recent arrests, such as for drug crimes and robbery charges. (My calls to the FBI about this issue have not been returned.)

However, when a Muslim is arrested in a sting-type operation, as we saw recently in Brooklyn, the FBI touts that arrest to the media with a detailed press release. We have also seen U.S. attorneys hold press conferences to announce the arrest of Muslims, as we witnessed recently with the six Minnesota men charged with planning to join ISIS. But not here.




In fact, this incident would have likely been ignored but for the local Islamberg community reaching out to the media. They even posted a powerful photograph on social media of the children of the town sitting under a big banner that asked: “Why do you want to kill us Robert Doggart?”

But here’s the reality: This will likely not be the last time we hear about a planned attack on Muslim Americans by right-wing groups. Alarmingly, a recent poll found 55 percent of Americans hold anti-Muslim views, the highest numbers ever recorded.

Obviously the images of ISIS committing horrific actions has fueled this sentiment. But Republican politicians like Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindhal claiming Muslim Americans want to create “no-go” zones, where Islamic law rules, and other Republicans alleging that Muslims aren’t loyal to America has ginned up the hate to levels that take some to the doorstep of violence.

[size=20pt]HOLY HYPOCRISY![/size]



America Snores When Christian Terrorist Threatens to Massacre Muslims


An ordained minister pleaded guilty to threatening to burn down a New York town full of Muslims. Where's the FBI press conference and Fox News panic? Have you heard about the Christian terrorist Robert Doggart, who was plotting a violent attack against a Muslim-American community in New York state? Probably not, because as opposed to when U.S. law enforcement officials arrest a Muslim for planning a violent assault, they didn’t send out a press release or hold a press conference publicizing Doggart’s arrest.

So let me tell you about Doggart and his deadly plan to use guns and even a machete to attack American Muslims in upstate New York. Doggart, a 63-year-old Tennessee resident, is an ordained Christian minister in the Christian National Church. In 2014, he unsuccessfully ran for Congress as an independent, espousing far right-wing views. Click to see court paper http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/robert-doggart-tennessee-congressional-candidate-islamberg-new-york-anti-muslim-islam-attack-arrest-court-documents-photos-charges-plea-patriot/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/265515973/Robert-Doggart-Plea-Agreement

But don’t dismiss Doggart as some crazed wingnut howling at the moon. He served in the U.S. Naval Sea Cadet Corps, worked for 40 years in the electrical generation business, has a master’s degree and a Ph.D. from La Salle University, and claimed he had nine “committed” men working with him to carry out this attack.

No, Doggart can’t be dismissed as simply a loon; he’s a lethal threat. That is why Muhammad Matthew Gardner, the spokesman for the local Muslim community in the Islamberg, New York, community that was Doggart’s intended target, explained to me, “Our community has been traumatized.” Islamberg is a hamlet in upstate New York, right along the Pennsylvania border, that was founded in the 1980s by a group of Muslims who left New York City to escape racism, poverty, and crime. Gardner added, “Our community consists of veterans, doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. We are true American patriots, unlike Doggart, who is not representative of Christianity, but more like the American Taliban.”

The criminal complaint against Doggart, filed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Tennessee, paints a bone-chilling picture of a plan to launch a violent military-style assault on Islamberg, home to about 200 predominately black Muslim Americans. Right-wing media outlets have in the past made outlandish claims about the town, which have been consistently debunked by local law enforcement.

Doggart came to the FBI’s attention via postings on social media and a confidential informant. Why attack these Muslims? Doggart’s own words highlight his motive being grounded in at least partially in his view of Christianity: “Our small group will soon be faced with the fight of our lives. We will offer those lives as collateral to prove our commitment to our God.” Doggart continued, “We shall be Warriors who inflict horrible numbers of casualties upon the enemies of our Nation and World Peace.”

what happened to this project?

IMAO....he got the whole spelling wrong, and 2million for just cabinet

spyder880:
After spending some time to crank my brain to understand the quotation, I think what my guy wanted to list are;

1. Foreign plywood 84 pieces
2. Ordinary plywood 24 pieces
3. 20 plank of wood
4. One by three 20 pieces
5. Three gallon of gum
6. Two inches half bag
7. Three inches nail half bag
8. Concrete nail half bag
9. One inch half bag
10. Vernia ten foot
11. Transport
12. Workmanship
13. Total amount N2 million

dolphinheart:
Ill be waiting to hear more on ur dissagrements

If i were you, i wont be waiting. I would pack and run before you return. Anyways, wait until I return.

But first, what's ur opinion on the statements made by the person I replied. Is he right or is he wrong ?

I didnt even read his post. Part of your last post only caught my attention. I am not here to challenge his opinion.

The problem with American toilet is that, it is vulnerable. Tropical countries use bigger pipe that hooks with the toilet. You can flush a baby through it. But American standard can easily clog even with toilet tissues or any heavy material. That's just too bad.

Dont get it twisted. I will be back here

AllNaijaBlogger:
@ E.mpiree and Lanr.exlan,

Everything needs a reformation.

Change is the only thing that is constant. Christianity has come to adapt environmentalism after modern science has shown us that our planet is dying.


Furthermore, many muslim nairalanders have pointed out that stoning is not the punishment for adultery. Unfortunately, there are some Islamic socieites where women are stoned.

Surely, don't you think that those societies should be reformed? Don't they need a more reasonable islam?


Peace. Salaam

Ikengawo:
90% of the people that read this article don't know that even to start a small business a man needs to go into debt.

follow him>>>>>>>

dolphinheart:
Christians are not under obligation to practise the mosaic law. you are the one propagating the false idea and not the bible or Christians.

be truthful when you make statements, Don't be too desperate to find fault

So you're saying Christianity is a law-free religion? Every religion has own rules, laws and punishments/penalties.

Unfortunately your bible disagrees with you. I disagree with you too.

Yea, it's true you dont have to but consequences lie in wait

^Alhamdulillah!

While at the same time other parents bewildered by the fruit that came forth. A baby girl born without nose. They have no choice but thank to God. This is to show us scan is not 100%
http://naijagists.com/photos-meet-baby-boy-born-without-a-nose-eli-thompson/#comment-376295

^ You have now brought clear evidence to extricate urine theory. It's now safe to discard the hadith as 'bogus'

These are serious Jinn possession here. God! I didnt experience stuff like this growing up. Looks like women are vulnerable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bp8R9OhAOs

Slickest:
Only an ignorant fellow will blame d pastor's act on religion....he chose his path....

Only God can 4giv us and our ways....

What is the punishment/penalty for this act according to the Bible.

@underlined, can you confidently say the same if a Muslim is accused of something unspeakable?

johnw74:
Of course it's my input, that's what I said




No that was good enough for me fella

sorry, your theory is boloney

johnw74:
Judas hanged himself, the branch broke and he fell forward onto a sharp rock tearing himself asunder and being disemboweled.

It doesn't have to be conflicting, that is just one possibility,
and some could put it much better than me.

@underlined, is clearly your input. It also contradicts Bible scholars. Do you have any idea what some bible scholars said about Act 1:18 Indeed, then, this one purchased a field with the reward of unrighteousness. And falling headlong, he burst apart in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out.

They gave it a new meaning. They said it is parable. I have a christian who posted such a silly reply in another thread. This means you have no reasonable commentaries behind the verse. So you saying the tree he hung himself cracked or broke and he fell is unfounded. You just trying to fit your own interpretation. These are clear contradictions.

Try harder next time fella

I downloaded Quran from a website last Ramadan for memorization purposes on my phone. I already succeeded memorizing some long surat by that before the next Ramadan (i:e 2015). But I notice it no longer works few months ago. I uninstalled the app from my phone recently with the hope of re-installing it but to no avail. I lost the app. Very good app.

The logo resembles your op, but I dont think this is the link. Lucky me, I have same app downloaded on my android laptop. Below is the outlook of the app. The second pix is its logo. I searched the net for it but nothing found. I dont know direct website for it anymore. In case you are familiar with its website, pls let me know. Thanks

blesoh:
then read it well,d holy spirit will interprete it for u.

holy spirit