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TheMadame:
I am not a Muslim nor an atheist,but a Christian,who desires knowledge. When I read my Bible I ask questions.
The questions are-
1.How did Judas die? A.Hanging? B.Burst asunder?
2.Who bought the field of blood?Judas or the Chief priests and elders?
3. Did Judas receive forgiveness for his sins or is he perpetually condemned? Remember the passage says he repented.
Remember all I quoted is from the Bible.

anthoniosp:
when will you learn to watch your comments?? ... pope asked a man hu said exactly this a question " why do you read the bible?? to promote peace or to find errors?? "... bros u should knw dat freedom of speech is not freedom to say everything...y am i evn talkin to you sef?? you are a baby

lanrexlan:
What they don’t need are lazy calls for an Islamic reformation from non-Muslims and ex-Muslims, the repetition of which merely illustrates how shallow and simplistic, how ahistorical and even anti-historical, some of the west’s leading commentators are on this issue. It is much easier for them, it seems, to reduce the complex debate over violent extremism to a series of cliches, slogans and soundbites, rather than examining root causes or historical trends; easier still to champion the most extreme and bigoted critics of Islam while ignoring the voices of mainstream Muslim scholars, academics and activists.
Hirsi Ali, for instance, was treated to a series of encomiums and softball questions in her blizzard of US media interviews, from the New York Times to Fox News. (“A hero of our time,” read one gushing headline on Politico.) Frustratingly, only comedian Jon Stewart, on The Daily Show, was willing to point out to Hirsi Ali that her reformist hero wanted a “purer form of Christianity” and helped create “a hundred years of violence and mayhem”.


With apologies to Luther, if anyone wants to do the same to the religion of Islam today, it is Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who claims to rape and pillage in the name of a “purer form” of Islam – and who isn’t, incidentally, a fan of the Jews either. Those who cry so simplistically, and not a little inanely, for an Islamic reformation, should be careful what they wish for.


Mehdi Hasan is a presenter on Al-Jazeera English. The views expressed here are his own

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extremism-muslim-martin-luther-europe?CMP=share_btn_fb

lanrexlan:
The truth is that Islam has already had its own reformation of sorts, in the sense of a stripping of cultural accretions and a process of supposed “purification”. And it didn’t produce a tolerant, pluralistic, multifaith utopia, a Scandinavia-on-the-Euphrates. Instead, it produced … the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Wasn’t reform exactly what was offered to the masses of the Hijaz by Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab, the mid-18th century itinerant preacher who allied with the House of Saud? He offered an austere Islam cleansed of what he believed to be innovations, which eschewed centuries of mainstream scholarship and commentary, and rejected the authority of the traditional ulema, or religious authorities.
Some might argue that if anyone deserves the title of a Muslim Luther, it is Ibn Abdul Wahhab who, in the eyes of his critics, combined Luther’s puritanism with the German monk’s antipathy towards the Jews. Ibn Abdul Wahhab’s controversial stance on Muslim theology, writes his biographer Michael Crawford, “made him condemn much of the Islam of his own time” and led to him being dismissed as a heretic by his own family.
Don’t get me wrong. Reforms are of course needed across the crisis-ridden Muslim-majority world: political, socio-economic and, yes, religious too. Muslims need to rediscover their own heritage of pluralism, tolerance and mutual respect – embodied in, say, the Prophet’s letter to the monks of St Catherine’s monastery, or the “convivencia” (or co-existence) of medieval Muslim Spain.

lanrexlan:
Islam isn’t Christianity. The two faiths aren’t analogous, and it is deeply ignorant, not to mention patronising, to pretend otherwise – or to try and impose a neatly linear, Eurocentric view of history on diverse Muslim-majority countries in Asia or Africa. Each religion has its own traditions and texts; each religion’s followers have been affected by geopolitics and socio-economic processes in a myriad of ways. The theologies of Islam and Christianity, in particular, are worlds apart: the former, for instance, has never had a Catholic-style clerical class answering to a divinely appointed pope. So against whom will the “Islamic reformation” be targeted? To whose door will the 95 fatwas be nailed?

Cymbal:
Stop being blinded by Religion and face Reality......*Look deep into the post. The answer is absolutely somewhere expecting you to look in its direction.....

Cymbal:
I want you to understand the fact that there is no way the so called *underage mother* will be able to take proper care of the kid they r going to have even with all the riches..............Just imagine sum1 being taken care of now taking care of someone else..........

tintingz:
Veda, I no say I get the answer but you can send the half of the money I go take am like that bikonu.

malvisguy212:
Luke gospel did not record the death of judas meaning Luke did not witnesses it HE pay attention to the life of Jesus christ.

It was in acts that Luke later record it but he did not record judas hanging meaning he did not witnesses it but he witnesses the dead body.
Here is acts account:

Acts 1:18-19 Now THIS man purchased
a field with the reward of INEQUITY;
and FALLING headlong, he burst
asunder in the midst, and all his
bowels gushed out. And it was known
unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem;
insomuch as that field is called in
their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is
to say, The field of blood.

From where did judas body fall from?as a matter of fact acts account was a teaching, why did Luke used the word inequity? It mean Luke was teaching FROM the actual event in MATTHEW.

Scholar8200:
The complement is greatly appreciated! . At least, your real intention is known. However, for the sake of those who are not here to scoff,
" The word here rendered "headlong" - πρηνής prēnēs (Latin "pronus," whence our English word "prone" - means properly "bent forward, head-foremost"; and the idea is, that his position in hanging himself was such that when the cord broke he fell headlong, or fell forward on his face. This can easily be supposed if he threw himself from a rock or elevated place. He first hanged himself, and then fell and was burst asunder "(Culled from Biblehub) For a translation that took place in 1611, the failure to transliterate is pardonable.

malvisguy212:
do you know the meaning of contradiction at all? Matthew say Judas hang himself and Luke account in acts did not deny judas hang himself. show me were Luke deny judas was hang?

malvisguy212:
just as scholar say, no contradiction in here.Matthew 27:1-10 mentioned the fact that Judas died by hanging himself in order to be strictly factual. Luke, however in his
report in Acts1:18-19 wants to cause the
feeling of revulsion among his readers,
for the field spoken about and for Judas, and nowhere denies that Judas died by hanging. According to tradition, it would seem that Judas hanged himself on the edge of a cliff, above the Valley of Hinnom. Eventually the rope snapped, was cut or untied and Judas fell upon the field below as described by Luke.

Scholar8200:
Yes, no contradiction there; one has to be on an elevated point before falling can occur.

hatbricker:
But why are you muslims always looking for vain arguements where there is none? As far as i'm concerned the Bible is infallible.

YourMain:
Wait what ?. I dont see any evidence of any sexual activities here. I think the fact she was on her period was said to highlight that physically she was no longer a child.

Rilwayne001:
You dey mind them.?

Jesus turning water to wine isn't physical

Jesus walking on water is not physical

Jesus feeding 5000 people with 2loaves of bread and fish isn't physical

Even Jesus himself is not physical

End of Discussion

Cymbal:
Child marriage is totally wrong and should be scrapped entirely!!!.....this will alleviate Poverty.

talkingtruth:
Off topic for lack of defence.

Is that the reason the quran is full of glaring LIES?

Were angels not sent before Muhammad was born? Why is allahh lying if not to deceive?

You can't understand the nature of Jesus as you are a carnal man. He came as a man, subject to human conditions.

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udatso:
www.answering-christianity.com/black_stone.htm

obiZEAL:
i see...she has won herself alot of faithfuls...Congrats Ifeann!
I don't subscribe to the whole religion ish...but if she will be fair to do to christianity what she is doing to islam, cos am sure the bible contains more gory tales than any other religious book on earth, just that she has decide to be one sided and that's my problem with her.
It shows that the so called points she is raising against islam was as a result of hatred and not rational reasoning and that has rendered her points void of any truth.