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AlBaqir:Yes, it adds up. But sincerely, my focus is not really on different sects calling themselves all sorts of brands. Besides, Empiree, I see often of late that you are often in the same boat with Sheik Imran Hussein in attaching and blaming Muslim's chaos on certain "Dajjal".@bold, that's it. I tell you why it's indeed irrelevant. Let's see if you can unscramble this. It was in the 1994, two brothers bearing same name, Yusuf. Both are muslims. Yusuf 1 is homie. Yusuf 2 is extended family friend but both lived together at the former's house. There was a time both Yusuf had unusual differences that was quiet alarming. No one would think they would quarrel with one another because they were so close. Their fight(non-physical) intensified that they no longer exchanged words/greetings/compliments for weeks. Everyone began to suspect something was wrong. Anyways, an elderly man, "Alhaji" (d. 2011) who happened to work in the same building eventually learned about this and summoned both to settle their differences. Upon the meeting, the first thing Alhaji asked was am I allowed to arbitrate your differences?. You know this kind of question is difficult to answer when archenemies are puff and huff and ready to trash one another. So they refused to answer. In fact, Alhaji was basically following the Sunnah of Nabiy (Allah's blessings be upon him and his household) using such approach. He asked them same question again and again. They just can't disrespect old man. They had to agree unanimously to let him settle their differences. Then again, Alhaji asked: "if I get involved between you two, will that resolve your differences?". Man!, this one was hard on both sides. Yusuf 1 just could not hold his puff neither Yusuf 2 would let go without some sort of tales to narrate. So both sides started 'yabbing' over one another. Alhaji said 'I dont want to hear anything from either of you....I only asked you a question.'. Yusuf 2 being a little younger just wanted to huff. Every time he tried, Alhaji curbed him saying just answer my question (i:e his second question). Ultimately, it wasn't too long before both sides realized that Alhaji was not interested in their tales. They had no choice but to say big [size=20pt]YES![/size] with smiles on their faces. Now Alhaji said, "now, extend salams to one another with hugs. This buried their differences up till this moment. That's 21 years in the making. Neither Alhaji, nor me, nor anyone else knows what really caused differences between Yusufs till now. Note, this is not a fairy tale. It was real. It's not hearsay either. This is why Sheik Imran "shy away" as you rightly said. Indeed, he did speak on this some 20 year ago or less. He now realized that it makes absolutely no sense talking about it because it deepens rift. Those who talk about it till present, do they solve the differences?. Nope. What solves the differences?.....................Al-QUR'AN (3:103) Wasalaam |
[quote author=vedaxcool post=32949066] It will be better for you to begin to see beyond what propaganda people spew,I put this in consideration all the time. and begin to understand that a lot of muslim govt. can be as bad as those they criticize, those they pretend to loath, actions they incite their people to hate. A muslim govt. that said nothing while of 100s of 1000s of muslims in Syria were murdered using barrel bombs, chemicals can never and should never be considered a govt. that represents Islam or at the very least stand for Justice yet suddenly same govt remembered that civilians are dying in Yemen while actively supporting a regime with ,money, men and advice in killing hundred of thousand of civilians this is dual standards and a poor attempt to take the ordinary Muslim for a ride! If a Muslim act bad we should be prepared to criticize them, not pretend and dubiously defend their actions that we believe represent our sects,I concur. before you hold Saudi govt. to accountableActually anytime i hold Saudi govt accountable, it's usually base on ahadith of akhir zaman not he said, she said. why don't you hold Assad accountable or is Assad actions now pleasing to you?I am definitely not a fan of Assad. If i condemned his opposition doesn't mean i support him. I supported the right of syrians to protest against him at out-start. But when some groups on the pretext started getting weapons and money from Santa Claus to fight Assad and disintegrated their country, i have obligation base on Qur'an to shun them even though they appeared to be average civilians. You know Santa Claus don't you. When they allied themselves with santa claus, this is direct violation of Sura Maida ayah 51. They become proxies and agent of fitna. They are they are the folks who entered masjid and murdered eminent Sunni Sheik during khutba just because he summoned them to make peace with their brother(Assad). They are the same folks who murdered Bishop and ate his flesh. They are the same folks who posed with J. McCain. These people can not be the oppressed civilians by Assad. This is my understanding of the situation in Syria. Assad is simply better off than the later. As for Yemen current outbusrt, I didnt follow that. I will see if i can get some info from different sources. |
Entrapment Exposition: I remember this brother, Akili was arrested around March 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZJ138NQuM |
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MzNelly:Perhaps, you need to take a little more time to review her posts and see that many nonsense she posted, lots of them are given answers. That will be proper if indeed you truly worship your god. I know there lots of Christians that have no clue what's in the bible. Should I compile bunch of extreme verses from Bibles and paste them?. You think i have time for that?. I am sure if i do that some Christians will try to give explanation for them. Common sense should always prevail. If ifean truly believes Christianity is the way, she should care less about Islam. Truth always stands clear from falsehood. Ifeann is so in-secured. That's why she's here and there. Just click on her profile. You can check these out. Beware Of Christians (evangelism) And Their Use Of Deceptions https://www.nairaland.com/2189813/beware-christians-evangelism-use-deceptions Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian https://www.nairaland.com/2153126/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist Muslims, Why Did You Fail To Probe This? https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe#down Was Jesus Naive To Have Said This? https://www.nairaland.com/2257912/jesus-naive-said Differences Between The One True God And The Islamic Allah https://www.nairaland.com/2256249/differences-between-one-true-god Islam's most powerful weapon the " Al Taqiyyah https://www.nairaland.com/2172662/islams-most-powerful-weapon-al Simple Questions https://www.nairaland.com/2250628/simple-questions Truth Not Tarqiyyah Is What Islam Preahces https://www.nairaland.com/2259687/truth-not-tarqiyyah-what-islam Jesus, son of man? https://www.nairaland.com/2251469/jesus-son-man-read Did Jesus Died For Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In https://www.nairaland.com/2235053/did-jesus-died-sin-which Islamic Allah's Messenger Claims Allah Wrote The Bible https://www.nairaland.com/2239077/islamic-allahs-messenger-claims-allah More Headache For Trinitarians!(NON-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT INVITED) https://www.nairaland.com/2252055/more-headache-trinitarians-non-christians-not For Muslims Who Believe The Bible Is Corrupt https://www.nairaland.com/2248120/muslims-believe-bible-corrupt Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses https://www.nairaland.com/2161012/lets-take-look-slavery-contained Interesting Teachings You Can Learn From The Quran https://www.nairaland.com/2246596/interesting-teachings-learn-quran Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii" https://www.nairaland.com/2236722/quran-says-jesus-died-explanation Radical Muslims Kill Over 100 Muslims At Mosques In Sanaa, ..what Else Is New https://www.nairaland.com/2207449/radical-muslims-kill-over-100 Below, Bible was completely trashed. Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible Most of these threads are opened by christians. Muslims also tackled them as they possibly could. As for you, johnydon22, honestly, there is no need to try to convince anyone anymore. Even some kids today know that Western media, Jewish an christian islamophobia enterprise would do anything to whitewash. |
And probably in 10yrs from now, 2012 pix will be all green |
AlBaqir:I concur. By the way, how do you underline. I dont see such feature atop 'reply' bar. I see few people do that. I only see horizontal rule which is not it |
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I need to scrutinize the situation before i can really jump into this. I have little knowledge of what really happened for Saudi to have attacked fellow muslim country. However, my major concern was simply to discourage Muslims on Muslims bickering and attacks. It makes us look stupid all the time. We are laughing stock all the time in this kind of incidents. You go to christian section, a longtime bigot who was absent for 4 months just returned today. The next thing he would do was to open a thread "what is the diff btw shia and sunni". I have not read contents of his thread. I am sure by the time I go there now it might be engrossed with hate comments toward islam altogether. This kind of thing make me sick to my stomach. I'd intended to put the blame on Saudi initially for reasons posted by Albaqir. But seeing comment from kazlaw2000 given his thought on this issue (because he's not known to involve in sectarian talks), invigorates my scrutiny of the situation. If I were to give my thought base on baqir and vedaxcool, it'd been as usual because i know the two of you are 'day and night'. |
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spyder880:Yes, it is. This is "Oluwa Champion" guy. I dont see him around of late. I followed his thread on this building. Interesting indeed.
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Fhemmmy:I remember when you left this comment in 2011. Can't believe it's 4 yrs already. Chai |
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9jaforlife:@ bold got me Nice response up there. The fact that he keeps up with this nonsensical makes me wonder he probably has ulterior motives too. |
Further, “The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)” “The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)” “Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)” “There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)” “Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)” “According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)” “Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)” “The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources….(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)” “Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided….(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)” So is this "holy book" you want us to believe?. God is not the author of confusion. If these dont open your eyes, I dont know what will. Cc:truthman2012 |
[quote author=truthman2012 post=32880599]If you say the NT is a fraud, what do you call the quran? I noticed all of you are looking away from my thread for inability to defend allah'sLol, you dont seize to amaze me. Well, There is something called "System Of Meaning" by which a verse or verses of the Qur'an are understood without direct mentioning of individual. Allah does not recognize Mr. Paul, the founder of Christianity. I am glad you said he wrote the Bible, which means it has nothing to do with Jesus and his authentic message. Allah sent Isa(Jesus-the son of Mary) to Israelite NOT Paul. So by system of meaning, Quran sums it up in this verse. (Baqarah 79) "So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." So this verse^ is clear enough that Quran already referred to Paul and other known and unknown writers of the Bibles. Bible itself recorded this fact: [size=16pt]“`How can you say, “We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?’ (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8: ”[/size]"Lying pen" sums it. ![]() The bible had exited in the form it is now before Muhammad's islam, yet allah didn't make any comment about him. It shows allahh was forced to bow to Paul's writings. The miracles allahh and his prophet, muhammad were unable to perform were Paul's normal evangelical life.@ bold, the question is which Bible?. You have over 40 different contradictory versions. All of them can not be from God. But if you insist, I ask you, did God reveal Women Bible, Skate Bible, Kiddie Bible, Homosexual Bible as well?. I already dealt with this stuff on two threads. I hate to say this but I think it is necessary so you know how Bible scholars have shot themselves in the foot. [size=14pt]The Entire Bible Is Corrupted Anyway According To Its Theologians![/size] The Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man’s alterations and corruptions: “`How can you say, “We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?’ (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8: ”The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: “How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8: ”And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible’s theologians and historians wrote: “Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)” “Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)” “The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)” “The letter is difficult to date with precision….(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)” “It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)” “Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)” |
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