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true2god:
This is always your standard response whenever you want to avoid a topic: 'it was addressed or it had been addressed'. People have taken note of this your dodgy style.

true2god:
Is this how you now validate your modernized and reformed paganistic religion, that is Islam?

malvisguy212:
surah10:94
"And if thou wert in doubt as to what
We have revealed unto thee, then
ask those who have been reading
the BOOK FROM BEFORE THEE..."

" those who have been reading
the BOOK FROM BEFORE THEE..." are christians and Jews, if this people are reading corrupted book it's make NO sense for Allah to ask the muslims to make confirmation in there BOOK, and if the scripture is corrupted before muhammed had died, how was he able to see the revelation that the scripture(bible) is corrupted?it is absolutely necessary to believe that the Scriptures before Islam are uncorrupted!

Here's the thing I was raised Roman Catholic and as a result was sent to religious school after school called CCD. My mother later became a Born Again. And yes I've read the bible. Thing is I don't believe. It makes no sense to my way of thinking. The more i think about the subject the less it seems to make sense The more science discovers... The less valid the bible seems. I prefer knowledge to ideology. Now if I were to choose between the three faiths that follow the God of Abraham the Jewish faith, Islam and or Christianity It would be Islam cause well it has one KEY feature that in my mind makes it so much better. There is a Hell in the Islam faith but it's NOT for an eternity. It's only for as long as it requires for your individual sin to be burned away. Then off to Heaven you go. I many not be a god but that seems fair to me.... The Christian alternative is off the charts wrong headed.. Out and out nasty in the extreme.

malvisguy212:
Ezi.oAuditore
Scholars and many old Bible manuscripts reveal that the contents of the Bible available in Muhammad's time (570 - 632 A.D.) are nearly identical to those of today's Bible. And the Bible of Muhammad's time, the one endorsed
by the Quran ,

truthman2012:
RoPCain doesn't make sense in this forum. Summarize what he said on this thread.

basilico:
Allah banned adoption so that Muhammad could marry his cousin that aroused desire in him.
Cousin marriage leads to inbreeding and a whole lot of genetical issues too.
Inbred children have higher chances of being retarded.
Pakistan has the highest per capital retards.

AlBaqir:
1. Hadith from Sahih al-Bukhari:

ﺣﺪﺛﻨﺎ ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺑﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﺜﻨﻰ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺣﺪﺛﻨﺎ ﺣﺴﻴﻦ ﺑﻦ ﺍﻟﺤﺴﻦ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺣﺪﺛﻨﺎ ﺍﺑﻦ ﻋﻮﻥ ﻋﻦ ﻧﺎﻓﻊ ﻋﻦ ﺍﺑﻦ ﻋﻤﺮ ﻗﺎﻝ: ﺍﻟﻠﻬﻢ ﺑﺎﺭﻙ ﻟﻨﺎ ﻓﻲ ﺷﺎﻣﻨﺎ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻳﻤﻨﻨﺎ . ﻗﺎﻝ ﻗﺎﻟﻮﺍ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻧﺠﺪﻧﺎ ؟ ﻗﺎﻝ ﻗﺎﻝ ‏ﺍﻟﻠﻬﻢ ﺑﺎﺭﻙ ﻟﻨﺎ ﻓﻲ ﺷﺎﻣﻨﺎ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻳﻤﻨﻨﺎ . ﻗﺎﻝ ﻗﺎﻟﻮﺍ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻧﺠﺪﻧﺎ . ؟ ﻗﺎﻝ ﻗﺎﻝ ‏ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﺍﻟﺰﻻﺯﻝ ﻭﺍﻟﻔﺘﻦ ﻭﺑﻬﺎ ﻳﻄﻠﻊ ﻗﺮﻥ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻄﺎﻥ

Narrated Nafi':

Ibn 'Umar said: "O Allah, bless our Syria and our Yemen for us."

They said, "And our Najd?"

He said, "O Allah, bless our Syria and our Yemen for us."

They said, "And our Najd?"

He said, "In that place are earthquakes and fitnah, and through it will the Horn of Shaytan appear."
http://islamport.com/w/mtn/Web/3007/1855.htm

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/401967/Najd

2.
ﺳﻨﻦ ﺍﻟﺘﺮﻣﺬﻱ

3953 ﺣﺪﺛﻨﺎ ﺑﺸﺮ ﺑﻦ ﺁﺩﻡ ﺍﺑﻦ ﺍﺑﻨﺔ ﺃﺯﻫﺮ ﺍﻟﺴﻤﺎﻥ ﺣﺪﺛﻨﻲ ﺟﺪﻱ ﺃﺯﻫﺮ ﺍﻟﺴﻤﺎﻥ ﻋﻦ ﺍﺑﻦ ﻋﻮﻥ ﻋﻦ ﻧﺎﻓﻊ ﻋﻦ ﺍﺑﻦ ﻋﻤﺮ ﺃﻥ ﺭﺳﻮﻝ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺍﻟﻠﻬﻢ ﺑﺎﺭﻙ ﻟﻨﺎ ﻓﻲ ﺷﺎﻣﻨﺎ ﺍﻟﻠﻬﻢ ﺑﺎﺭﻙ ﻟﻨﺎ ﻓﻲ ﻳﻤﻨﻨﺎ ﻗﺎﻟﻮﺍ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻧﺠﺪﻧﺎ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺍﻟﻠﻬﻢ ﺑﺎﺭﻙ ﻟﻨﺎ ﻓﻲ ﺷﺎﻣﻨﺎ ﻭﺑﺎﺭﻙ ﻟﻨﺎ ﻓﻲ ﻳﻤﻨﻨﺎ ﻗﺎﻟﻮﺍ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻧﺠﺪﻧﺎ ﻗﺎﻝ ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﺍﻟﺰﻻﺯﻝ ﻭﺍﻟﻔﺘﻦ ﻭﺑﻬﺎ ﺃﻭ ﻗﺎﻝ ﻣﻨﻬﺎ ﻳﺨﺮﺝ ﻗﺮﻥ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻄﺎﻥ

ﻗﺎﻝ ﺃﺑﻮ ﻋﻴﺴﻰ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺣﺪﻳﺚ ﺣﺴﻦ ﺻﺤﻴﺢ ﻏﺮﻳﺐ

ﺗﺤﻘﻴﻖ ﺍﻷﻟﺒﺎﻧﻲ : ﺻﺤﻴﺢ
http://islamport.com/w/alb/Web/782/3953.htm

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said, "O Allah, bless our Syria for us. O Allah, bless our Yemen for us."

They said, "And our Najd?"

He said, "O Allah, bless our Syria for us and bless our Yemen for us."

They said, "And our Najd?"

He said, "In that place are earthquakes and fitnahs, and through it or from it will the Horn of Shaytan rise."

Abu 'Isa (Imam at-Tirmidhi) said: This hadith is hasan sahih gharib.

Al-Albani said: Sahih.
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Actually anytime i hold Saudi govt accountable, it's usually base on ahadith of akhir zaman not he said, she said.

Akinife:
I don't believe DAT some of dem knew d consequences of their action. Some of these people were arrested long before the death penalty was reintroduced.

vooks:
Do you ever think before posting?
When Allah is cornered stealing pagan rituals, it is pagans who perverted the true religion and she/he is just restoring it.
When Allah is cornered DISTORTING, defiling and rewriting history with blatant lies such as Alexander the Great being Muslim, this is 'factual' only that it was totally lost (zero prior historical records ) of the same and he/she is now revealing it.

So whether you cook and distort history or you plagiarize paganism, you are always right

You may as well tell us that Mohammed was the original iPad manufacturer and Steve Jobs merely REDISCOVERED them

Ifeann, abeg come and breath some sense into this primate

9jaforlife:
Ifeann aka parisbookaddict, what did you expect to see inside?? Skulls of past prophets to serve as evidence of their coming

Imagine you asking a d*umb question that why didn't Allah prevent people from destroying the kaabah, why didn't your 'god' prevent the holy temple from being destroyed?? Yeye girl

If the inside of Kaabah was adorned with gold and silver, you would still have called Islam 'vain' and 'wordly'

Why do you think your opinions matter to Muslims anyway? You must really think you're special

truthman2012:
[size=5pt]One thing is certain and undisputable: muslims are satanic. If they don't have access to kill their opponents, they will curse or abuse them.

I have listened to islamic clerics on cassettes and radio, most of their sermon statements are cursing and abusing others.

Muhammad on his dying bed cursed the Jews. He started and ended quranic revelations with curses:

Quran 111:1-5] The power of Abu Lahab will perish, and he will perish.

His wealth and gains will not exempt him.

He will be plunged in flaming Fire,

And his wife, the wood-carrier,

Will have upon her neck a halter of palm-fibre

Is this not enouh to show islam is from the Devil?

Quran is said to be words of allahh alone, then why should God be so bitter with a man and could do nothing to him other than curses? Why is he so powerless?

Go to Christian assemblies, no preacher can be found abusing or cursing people in the name of preaching. Never.

The bible says we shall know them by their fruits. [/size]

Abuamam:
He is now quoting from the book of Jubilee; trying to pass it off as bible. Can you imagine how tricky these people are? True followers of Paul. And he will later come back to tell us that the bible was not added to. Here he is doing just that; I am sure that if he had the power to, he will add that book to the OT. Smh!

malvisguy212:
trash!!! Do you know the meaning of "swear"? Ok!! The verse went all the way and say "LORD OF THE EAST AND WEST " who is this Lord of the east that Allah swore to?

truthman2012:
allahh has been proven to be a liar. So, the quran is not credible.

allahh has been proven to be a pagan god. As Abraham who is said to be the builder of kaaba, where you face, never stayed there.

allahh has been proven to be inconsistent as he was changing his words almost as soon as spoken. This is not the character of the true God.

allahh declared himself as not the eternal God known to humanity (Quran 109:1-6).

Want more?

Can you now see that you wrong your soul if you take allahh as your God?

true2god:
Keep deceiving yourself, 90% of black converts to islam are either the ones serving a jail term or just released from jail. Islam, being a thuggish religion, perfectly fit their lifestyle as criminals and\or ex-convicts. The highest religious group in american or european prisons are muslims. In sweden, denmark, norway and even the UK, muslim population in their prison is the highest. Do your research.

A society where muslim set their foot upon, the crime rate increases exponentially. Three decades ago, the population of prisoners in europe is very small, but with the influx of muslims into europe and america, the populations has increased sharply.

Also note that the highest numbers of religios and ethnic migrants into europe are arab\muslims. At least 500,000 muslims migrate to europe yearly, even under a very dangerous scenario via small boats through morroco and libya to italy, and then mainland europe. So the increase in muslim population in europe and america is via 'hijra' or migration.

Also note that you can hardly see a second or third generation white, black or hispanic muslim. Reason because over 75% of convert leave the religion once they discover that islam and mohammed is a fraud and a criminal religion.

"I am a Christian. But -
Muslims are misunderstood. Intentionally misunderstood.
We should all be more like them.
They make sense, especially with their children.
There is no other group like Muslims.
They put so much effort into teaching children the right things!
They don't smoke, they don't drink or do alcohol
They protect their women, they command respect.
And what do these other people (Christians) do?
Christians complain about them! They criticize them!
It would be a better world - if we emulated them"

jcross19:
imagine this world without islam how sweet and peaceful will it be? A sound muslim must surely has killing instinct inside why? What will you gain from killing your fellow brother just because is not sharing the same faith with you. If mohammad, your leader that promised you allah paradise with river of wine and brothels but at point of death turned to you and said I don't know what will happen to me after death or to you. Why can't you run for your life he has deceived you already. Give your life to christ.

true2god:
Truth never expires but lies do. The lies in islam that are being encrypted under arabic language had been unmasked using modern communication system, especially the inernet.

Open-minded muslims are beginning to question allahh and mohammed, as more and more hadith and quran that expose the falsehood in islam are being shared over the internet. Truth is the strongest deliverance anyman can get. Knowledege is power.

The saudi authorities are spending billions on internet censorship and polishing the bad image of mohammed and islam worldwide. So it is our duty to keep exposing islam as an pagan religion packaged as one of the abrahamaic faith, while the saudi govt and gullible muslims keep spending time, energy and money defending islam and the honour of mohammed.

Shalom!

EzioAuditore:
The rate at which christians are turning into atheists is alarming. But I'm not surprised, who could blame them? Seriously, their religion is shit.

Abuamam:
Then your bible is lying, or you are...

Read Joshua 24:2

Better still let me read it to you...

2 Joshua said to all the people, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Long ago your ancestors, including Terah the father of Abraham and Nahor, lived beyond the Euphrates River and [size=16pt]worshiped other gods.[/size]

Abuamam:
You do not have to continually hold me on my honour as a Muslim. I state categorically that I NEVER lie to promote my religion. I say it as it is. Contrary to your oft-stated belief, I have no doubts that lying is strongly prohibited in Islam; and I will not risk the anger of my Lord, just to win an argument with ifeann and co. Furthermore, lying about Allah, or about His prophets, is the worst of the worst of all lies.

AllNaijaBlogger:
It is not about winning the argument- winning the soul and respect is far more important.

I choose to win people over by my actions and not by bashing other religions.


You can't win me over because you are not mature in your own religion.

I have caught you more than once lying and using dubious means to argue for your religion whenever I ask you for answers

AllNaijaBlogger:
You lied about Bernard Shaw praising islam. I caught you clean and clear.

joseph1832:
Marvelous, bloody marvelous!. Even empi.ree and rilwayn.e001 can't even post something like this.

All they do is poke holes and believe their religion is the best thing ever fashioned by man!.

AllNaijaBlogger:
I'm really surprised at the hypocrisy of the muslims on this thread.


They point out that some christians were exploiting the earthquake to promote their religion. That is true. The tweets shoeing how dubious some christians are were there. But then there are muslim tweets just as bad.

Then, I see Rilway.ne001, emp.iree and co, claiming evil things about christian evangelism. As if there aren't videos of Dawah guys using dubious means for islamic evangelism.


For the christian crusades, there were islamic holy wars. For every Hitler, there is an Osama bin Laden.


European Christians took slaves from Africa....Arab muslims took slaves from Africa.


Both our religions have good and bad people. Let us not point fingers.

There are good christians and good muslims. There are bad christians and bad muslims

iliyande:
For anyone who is ready to argue with moslems please this advice is for you.

When dialoguing with Muslims, please remember to be respectful and patient. But, check everything they say and listen to them. They do not have the market cornered on truth even though they think they do. Because their koran is a copy and paste book without foundation so that makes them to argue much to prove to the world either by beheading or any means. Finally, remember love can conquer