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Abuamam:
[size=3pt]Actually, it IS tiresome repeatedly providing the same set of explanations over and over again. But personally, I do not do it to convince ifeann and her personal band of acolytes.[/size] As I noted before, I realised long ago that she is likely interested in goading Muslims to talk back at her, so she can probably claim threats to her life from Muslims and try for asylum in Finland or wherever... Ayaan Hirsi Ali style. Notice how she is always emphasizing that she feels threatened; and always claims she wants assurances of guarantees for her safety etc.[size=3pt] I think we should just provide the true position of whatever nonsense she posts; for the sake of our less aware brothers/sisters in Islam; and exit, leaving her to keep making irrelevant noise.

[/size]This got me laughing so true. Poor lady...silly tactics.

pammusphy:
[s]im not here to argue, im only telling what Christians stand for[/s]

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pammusphy:
1.The Only Scripture we know as Christians is the Bible. It's been handed down from ages and has stood the test of time
2.The Bible is uncorrupt, perfect and complete.
3.It's unreasonable and nonsensical for any religious BODY to pervert its own teachings. For what reason, especially after reading the dreadful warning in REV22:18,19?
Even if Christians have corrupted the Word of God, what about the Jews? Are you saying that Christians have been blind to seeing their Scriptures was corrupt until the muslims showed up?
4.Mohammed thought Jesus was given an injeel but what we know is the gospel. If you insist, it is certain that you talk of another Jesus whom we know not. See Gal1:6-9

Obviously, you dont know Bible or at least you have not read Bible. I dont want to go through all that again here. It was already dealth with on rilwayne's thread. This is just a waste of time here.

simonsays:
You are getting it wrong. You don't have to go far. Do you know Pilots earn as much as 1 Million a Month here in Nigeria? Ask Aero Contractors pilots...

Oh really? that's sweet if one doesnt compare exchange rate with $$. That means pilots earn pretty good in naija. That's great.

And no, i dont leave in naija now

tola9ja:
THE LIST IS NOT COMPLETE

WHAT OF THIS GREAT SCHOLAR [size=18pt]Empire.e[/size]

Loool. My humble self, I guess is exceptional

^ I was once interested in this but during the my investigative journalism last year, I learned how nasty and ridiculous Pilots are paid.

You ever watched air-crash investigation clips?. Some of the crashes are caused as a result of poor pay. Imagine a co-pilot paid $13k/yr, at the time of the crash, investigation revealed both pilots were tired and sleepy.

Why is that?. Because they slept on hotel couch overnight before the crash. They couldn't afford to rent hotel to sleep with comfort.

Besides, I have listened to Pilot with over 30 years of experience. The course training is expensive, certification is tedious and not guarantee. Then pay is freaking absurd.

If i have to do the training, i wont have intention of doing it for living.

Rilwayne001:
Of course I know but you should be the first to remove your Hijab.

Lol...yea right.

Rilwayne001:
Hijab? I don't wear Hijab nahh

Lol, that's irony

IbnSultaan:
Hmmm. Someday may be

If you said so

So when are we going to remove hijab and see beautiful faces behind these usernames?

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rhames:
What is the Holy Durood?

salawaat (to send Allah's blessings and peace upon the prophets)

Walexz02:
Do you mean it is a sin

No. it's just "mechanical aid".

Updated......

malvisguy212:
where in the quran it say the bible is corrupted? Why will Allah referred you" muslims" to a corrupted book?if the bible was corrupted AFter muhammed had died, doesent this means Allah is not ominepotent? An ominepotent God will not ask his children to seek for guidance in a book that will be altered in the future.

The bible that was used during the time of muhammed is still the bible we have today,that why the Arab christians did not believe in muhammed as a prophet because they know there scripture very well, in facts muhammed find it difficult to reconciled with them, why? Because they knew muhammed contradicts the bible they have with them, as a matter of facts the same problems the Arab christians had with muhammed is the same nowadays christians and muslims is having,and the reason is the same thing,the SCRIPTURE.

[size=20pt]AFALATAKILUN[/size]


@malvis, you longed enough with muslims now and you have ran out of idea and techinicalities. Anything and everythingelse you have been saying or asking is recycle. I, empire.e invite you to the religion of Al-Islam and become a Muslim.

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^"Holy Spirit" woke him up very early to ask that question while he was still yawning stretching and still got some moles in the eyes

When he returns he will be like 'damn it...did i type this!'

malvisguy212:
do people go to heaven with physical body?

Q:7117 " 'And God has produced you from the earth growing (gradually), "

Pardon me. Is your Quranic quote in reference to your question above?. If that is the case I don't know any chapter of the Quran that goes by '7117'. Quran has only has 114 chapters.

^Yes, I take responsibility for the post. I also quoted Allah's words from His Book. My question is what is your question?

truthman2012:
Then how come he (allah) could still say men changed the bible?

This is easy. It's actually a recycled question. It is like saying why did Allah preserve the Quran and allow His earlier books of divine revelation to be changed or lost? Answer to this question lies in three facts:

i- The earlier prophets and their books were sent to a particular people in particular periods of history. Once the period ended, a new prophet was sent with a new book to replace the previous book. So, it was not necessary that these books be preserved by Allah. The preservation of the earlier books was left up to the people as a test for them. Thus, when the people went astray, they changed what was written in the books which their prophets brought in order to make allowable the things which were forbidden to them. In that way, all of the earlier books of revelation became either changed or lost.





ii- Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last prophet whom Allah sent, and he was not sent to a particular people or a particular time. He was sent to all of mankind until the end of the world. Allah said in the Quran,

"I have only sent you (Muhammad) as a giver of glad tidings and a warner to all mankind, but most men do not understand." [Noble Quran 34:28]


Thus, his book of revelation, the Quran, had to be specially preserved from any form of change or loss so that it would be available to all the generations of man until the last day of the world.






iii- The Quran was the main miracle given to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to prove that he was a true prophet of Allah and not an impostor. So, the Quran had to be saved to prove to the later generations that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was really the last prophet of Allah. All of the false prophets who came after Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) brought books which they claimed to be revealed from Allah, but none of them have the miraculous ability to be memorized by thousands, nor have they improved on the message of the Quran. The significance of the Quran's preservation is that Islam has been kept in its original purity because of it. Humanity can always return to the sources of Islam no matter what people may have added or forgotten in time. All of the essential principles of Islam are to be found in the Quran. Consequently, the preservation of the Quran meant the preservation of Islam in its final form. The loss of the Gospel of Jesus means that Christians can never return to the true teachings of Prophet Jesus(AS) except by accepting Islam. Similarly, the original Torah was lost when Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonians. Thus, the Jews cannot return to the pure teachings of Prophet Moses except by following Islam. It is only in Islam that the pure teachings of the prophets have been preserved without any change. That is why Allah said in the Quran,

"Verily, the only acceptable religion to Allah is Islam."[Noble Quran 3:19]


Even usermane that seems to support you Christians (especially ifeann) said this about Bible. I have to agree with him here.

usermane:
People tend to forget that the Gospel of Jesus, am talking of the original revealations recorded by Jesus was lost and the current gospels are lacking in the complete message of Jesus. This is why you 'll think christianity fairer than Islam, well bring forth the original Gospel and we 'll be good to compare.

[quote author=usermane post=20094120]The Gospel was God 's revealation to the Messiah, just like the Qur'an and Torah. It was a scripture and not a biography of Jesus. From the existence of Four gospels(Matthew,Mark,Luke and John) you should know something went wrong. Infact, these four gospels are the generally accepted ones.Report shows that there existed several other gospels which were rejected in favour of these four, like Gospel of barnabas. I think you know very well that Christ followers were persecuted and had to flee, disunite and remain scattered over the kingdoms after Jesus death. Couldn't it be that the Jews and Romans had attacked the Gospel as well?

I hope malvisguy212 will not keep asking this question again. He was answered before.

Okay, this one is interesting. I didnt know a thread like this exist. So madam still at it.

Anyways, @AllNaijaBlogger, kindly visit here to learn more. We ain't bigots for speaking the truth. Please be able to differentiate between interfaith dialogue and bigotry. Thanks

Are we all wrong @AllNaijaBlogger?. Please .......................think. Thanks

@ifeann, technically, you are discomfited here. You seem to be bewildered the way brothers and sisters handsomely handled you on this thread.

Well, if your game is not over yet, it's almost. Remove that mole from your eyes and accept the truth of Islam.

Remove it.......NOW!!!

malvisguy212:
did you just say adam was created in heaven? I need short answer.

I dont necessarily remember but kindly quote me so i know what you talking about cuz i dont know where you going with your indirect question. Thanks

AllNaijaBlogger:
Keep reading anti-christian conspiracies. What is the difference between you and those islamophobes who cite anti-islam sites?

Brother, please be reasonable here. These are researches done by me and others. Most of what I said are truth or almost because evidences abound. But those christian fellas clearly quote from anti-Islam places, bogus ahadith and misquoted Quran itself etc. And they even provided webites they got them from. And in most cases we refute them.

But christianity is not the case. I dont really have particular website(s). I just research online and offline.

Is like a christian says muslims have more than one arabic version of Quran. In order for us to refute the person, all we have to say is please provide evidence (by bringing two different Quran that contradict forward). If he cant his case will be dismissed. This is not the case with Bible. We can easily provide different versions of Bible/Gospel contradicting themselves or within themselves.

You can't deny existence Gospel of Barnabas. I will be suprised if you dont know. This is not bigotry. This is educating ourselves. Onus is on you to study these things. It's not about attacking your religion or quoting anti-christian websites. We talking about salvation here. This is not a joke. As you can see, you performed poorly defending message of Jesus.Bro..please ........................THINK

RecruitmentMgr:
YES, of course. We all need to wake up to the reality: the TERRORIST is on no-one's side. He's willing to kill himself and he'll gladly kill ANYONE; whether Christian or Muslim.

We should have learnt from the Boko-Haram experience, by now...

Interesting! I agree with you but Christian fanatics will disagree with you. They are the ones that need simple analysis of yours

RecruitmentMgr:
Well, for your information, these guys are TERRORISTS. Calling them "Christians" is deliberate misinformation and that is NOT knowledge.

Would it be okay when muslims also said what you just said here?

true2god:
Ok what organization is MOSSAB and what their aims and objective?

All I see is that you are just mentioning names randomly without any understanding of what you are talking about. What is MOSSAB if I may ask?

That's your homework

truthman2012:
The bone of contention is whether or not allah is stable. In many verses of the quran, he keeps changing his words, why?

He said there is no COMPULSION in RELIGION and yet order the muslims to fight people till there is no other religion than islam. How difficult is that for you muslim guys to understand? Na wa o!

There are many other verses where allah would say something now and change his mind later. Is that a good attribute of the true God? Repent and follow Jesus who would not deceive you by changing his word to suit any situation. Thank you.

No, He doesn't. It is you that have a big problem

Albaqir just explained 2nd paragraph to you but you still repeated nonsense here. It is very easy, pal. Just a click away to find out what "fitna" means. It always means oppression, turmoil, etc. Fitna doesnt mean shirk

Which Jesus you want me to follow?. The last time I checked you have more than one Jesus in your Bibles. You have over 40 different versions of the Bible yet none of it signed off by Jesus. Well, I already belive in Jesus the son of Mary(Allah's blessings be upon him and his mother).

NL1960, when i used to see those diagrams as a boy, including house plans etc, they looked like the world was breaking up in my eyes or like a magic to me. I never understood them.

Engineers and others used to have a large print and sat around the table talking and moving their hands back n fourth while explaning to one another. I was wondering 'what the heck are they doing'.

Now a grown up man, I dey laugh anytime I remember