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Islam › Re: Why I Should Take A Second Wife! by Empiree: 8:22am On Mar 08, 2015

I beg tell them. They seem to have feminist tendencies

Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 8:02am On Mar 08, 2015

malvisguy212:
it take you more than two weeks to reply this post.

None other prophet has the spirit of God except Jesus(the quran confirmed it) ,what does this mean to you? It mean God possessed the body of a man flesh called Jesus.you and I know that God is a spirit and a spirit needed a flesh to walk in the realm of human.

And how about Adam?. Wasn't Adam created with the spirit of God?.

"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." Q38:72

Read the above very well. If Jesus is son of God, what is Adam?. You see, this is very simple. Quran says when Allah wishes something (done), He merely says to it Be! And it comes in to being. Simple. Adam had no mother, no father but Jesus had mother, Mary. So why Adam not son of God too?. When man and woman have intercourse, if God doesn't breath His command (spirit) there will be no pregnancy. SIMPLE!

36:82- All He needs to do to carry out any command is say to it, "Be," and it is.

I chose to ignore you cuz u bored me.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 7:31am On Mar 08, 2015

I Attended A Conference Yesterday. Guests Were Two(2) Scholars:

Dr. Shabir Ally:
*Islam message to the world.
*Reforming ourselves.
*Reaching out to our neighbors

Shaikh Rafeeq Muhammad:
The Prophet's(saw) Character Enhancing our lives

Well detailed and interesting lectures. Prophet Muhammad's character is documented in the ONLY preserved and protected Qur'an. Anything outside of that is in conflict with what is revealed in the Quran is rejected.

After lecture was over, next session was Q & A. In this session, I asked my question in direct reference to nonsense threads and posts by ifean. In fact, all muslims that contributed enormously to refute the lady's allegations really tried. Her alegations are nothing new to Muslim scholars like Dr. Ally who is well acquainted with "evangelic tactics". I asked this question.....

"Some non-Muslims employed tactical evangelical approach by attacking characters of Prophet Muhammad(sallalahu alay wasalam). They said lots of derogatory things. They said those things are from our (Islam) sources like Ibn Ishaq. How Do We Approach And Refute This?"

Dr. Shabir Ally's response was simple and direct. He said many things I already said here.

"not only evangelical Christians use the tactics. None christians used the same thing as well. Ibn Ishaq's writings of seerah was 100yrs after prophet Muhammad. There are many things written that are untrue. They are in direct conflict with revelation(Qur'an)......"

Dr. Ally did give comprehensive answer. I hope the clip will be available on YouTube soon. We the believers hold the Qur'an as the only protected and guaranteed source of information in Islam. Anything else is faulted. None Muslims bigots will choose what to believe basically. Ibn Ishaq was not the only early source. There are many others beside him who wrote seerah.

Ibn Ishaq's parent was a christian. Below is biography of him. https://islamgreatreligion./2012/03/21/truth-about-biographylife-of-muhammad-written-by-ibn-ishaq/

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can't Wait To Be Free!! (my Story) by Empiree: 7:22am On Mar 08, 2015*

I Attended A Conference Yesterday. Guests Were Two(2) Scholars:

Dr. Shabir Ally:
*Islam message to the world.
*Reforming ourselves.
*Reaching out to our neighbors

Shaikh Rafeeq Muhammad:
The Prophet's(saw) Character Enhancing our lives

Well detailed and interesting lectures. Prophet Muhammad's character is documented in the ONLY preserved and protected Qur'an. Anything outside of that is in conflict with what is revealed in the Quran is rejected.

After lecture was over, next session was Q & A. In this session, I asked my question in direct reference to nonsense threads and posts by ifean. In fact, all muslims that contributed enormously to refute the lady's allegations really tried. Her alegations are nothing new to Muslim scholars like Dr. Ally who is well acquainted with "evangelic tactics". I asked this question.....

"Some non-Muslims employed tactical evangelical approach by attacking character of Prophet Muhammad(sallalahu alay wasalam). They said lots of derogatory things. They said those things are from our (Islam) sources like Ibn Ishaq. How Do We Approach And Refute This?"

Dr. Shabir Ally's response was simple and direct. He said many things I already said here.

"not only evangelical Christians use the tactics. None christians used the same thing as well. Ibn Ishaq's writings of seerah was 100yrs after prophet Muhammad. There are many things written that are untrue. They are in direct conflict with revelation(Qur'an)......"

Dr. Ally did give comprehensive answer. I hope the clip will be available on YouTube soon. We the believers hold the Qur'an as the only protected and guaranteed source of information in Islam. Anything else is faulted. None Muslims bigots will choose what to believe basically. Ibn Ishaq was not the only early source. There are many others beside him who wrote seerah.

Ibn Ishaq's parent was a christian. Below is biography of him. https://islamgreatreligion./2012/03/21/truth-about-biographylife-of-muhammad-written-by-ibn-ishaq/

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can't Wait To Be Free!! (my Story) by Empiree: 6:42am On Mar 08, 2015

justlove91:
Haven't you been seeing what Ifean has been posting about Islam and Mohammed? That is what it takes to really be a good Muslim. When you are doing what Islam tells you to do and living your life the way Mohammed lived his then you're really a good Muslim

honestly, you need to go back to school and study from the beginning. You are not learned at all.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 6:36am On Mar 08, 2015

[size=15pt]"Muhammed is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities."[/size] Encyclopedia Britannica

The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammed. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he? " Lamartine, Historie de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol. 11 pp. 276-2727

"If a man like Muhammed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness." George Bernard Shaw

[size=15pt]"I have studied him - the wonderful man - and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ he must be called the savior of humanity."[/size] George Bernard Shaw in "The Genuine Islam"

ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA confirms:

"....a mass of detail in the early sources show that he was an honest and upright man who had gained the respect and loyalty of others who were like-wise honest and upright men." (Vol. 12)

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels." (M.H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York, 1978, p. 33

As a Muslim i do not need Encyclopedia's to show what a great man Muhammad(saw) is, I just read the Qur'an & i know. ~ Empiree

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 5:49am On Mar 08, 2015

The song of Isa ibn Mariyam (AS)

My meal is fasting,

My standard is awe of Allah.

My clothing is of simple wool,

My prayer in winter is at suns rise.

My lamp is moonlight,

My steed is my legs.

My meal is whatever the earth gives me.

I lay down to sleep at night and have nothing,

I awake in the morning and have nothing, yet there is no one richer than I.

Source: [size=5pt]gleaned from remnant of aramaic text of Gospel[/size]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 5:41am On Mar 08, 2015

malvisguy212:
you will never understand this unless the holy spirit teach you.

Jesus has two nature,the apostle peter was teaching the nature of the son the context of that chapter was; Peter Speaks in Solomon's Colonnade ,he preach how sinful the people were, they prefers A criminal over the righteous one (Jesus) to let them understand ,he concentrate on the nature of the flesh in the person of christ Jesus. It will not make sense to them if peter preach about the Godly nature of Jesus because the Jews do not believe in Jesus. To make you understand read the book of isaiah;

◄ Isaiah 42:1 ►
"Here is my SERVANT, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put MY SPIRIT on him, and he will bring
justice to the nations.

Isaiah prophesied about the servant, that is Jesus and the spirit of God was on him. The flesh of Jesus does not matter, what matter the most is the spirit of God that was upon him.non other prophet has ever claimed to possess the spirit of God, the all have the nature of Godliness,here is the fulfil of isaiah prophecy;

Matthew12:17-18. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah:
18
“Here is my servant whom I have chosen,
the one I love, in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will proclaim justice to the
nations.

Here,matthew and isaiah called him servant,they show more emphasis on his nature of the flesh.if you read the whole matthew chapter 12 you will find out that Jesus don't want them to know his identity,why? Because his time is not yet come.

This all nonsense. Simple question:

Is Jesus son of God?

Is Jesus servant of God

These are NOT identical

Definitions:

son - : a male child

the Son : the second person of the Trinity in the Christian religion : Jesus Christ http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/son

servant - : a person who is hired to do household or personal duties such as cleaning and cooking

: a person who is devoted to or guided by something http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/servant

Definitions are crystal clear.

Both phrases have one thing in common....they are human beings. Servant, despite being human is defined to be SUBSERVIENT to a boss. In the bone of contention, he's subservient to God. So clear!

You haven't prove anything. Bible called Jesus servant. Meaning he's messenger...nothing else.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 5:25am On Mar 08, 2015

PastorKun:
Very daft question.

How is it daft?. His question was genuine......confused bibles.....confused people

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can't Wait To Be Free!! (my Story) by Empiree: 3:54am On Mar 08, 2015

justlove91:
Haha!
If you're truly a good person then I can emphatically tell you that you're not a good Muslim.
You don't know what being a good Muslim entails.

stop lying. You havent tell the truth. Kindly define who good muslim is....let's see. thanks

Christianity Etc › Re: Chilling In The Mosque by Empiree: 3:31am On Mar 08, 2015

Ifeann:
Islamic eschatology is irrational. .and mostly illogical. .

And what's this has to do with eschatology?. See you dont know what you talking about. Is there any correlation btw Islamic science of the grave and eschatology?. You have a serious problem

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Christianity Etc › Re: Chilling In The Mosque by Empiree: 3:26am On Mar 08, 2015

Bobbysworld28:
I hv noticed something abt u Empiree, u say dt Ifeann is lying but u cannot support ur claim with any quranic verse. It is rather disappointing. U r nt unintelligent yet u seems so irrational. Kindly contribute meaningfully

what is this one saying?. Since you have no idea nonsense she posted, then i think you too should hide behind her skirt.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Chilling In The Mosque by Empiree: 3:25am On Mar 08, 2015*

Ifeann:
Empire does this mean u won't be booking the flight.

Is this exist strategy?
No, i truly want to see you debate them openly. They are properly coordinated. There is no need to rant online. Please if you are interested, i will give you their contact to call for open challenge on christian/muslim debate (on theology). It's going to be in the open. See what preparation they have for distant challengers. Dont know if they do. Or..,

If you are not or can not physically present, be sure to arrange true2god, pastokun, allnaijablogger, Bobbysworld28, dejilg, truthman212, nortcentrallord, malvisguy212, OREMUSSANCTUS to represent you. And let them also bring as little as 10 people with them each. That's where you can convert as many muslims as you possibly can. Conversion will not work here. And if chief preacher asks for names for recognition purposes, in order for us on NL to be able to identify you, kindly tell them to syndicate "ifeann-NL-group". That way we Muslims here will be able to recognize.

Youtube video will be made available later for you to watch. Do you want to do this?

Bobbysworld28:
Ifeann asked u a question that u do not want to answer. From ur quran, who is d father of Jesus?

Sorry, there is not serious debate online. Kindly refer to the above see if you are interested?. And I ask you too, who was the father of Adam?. Who impregnated Mary?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 3:07am On Mar 08, 2015

PastorKun:
Even the quoran is not relevant to you or anyone else alive today.

Mr. man, you love hiding behind lady's skirt. Come out openly and declare your creed. You all got different ones

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Christianity Etc › Re: Chilling In The Mosque by Empiree: 8:18pm On Mar 07, 2015*

Ifeann:
If u are serious about this I can give u my details for u to book my ticket (return ticket of course) during my vacation in the next few months...

I would like to see how empiree looks.. maybe I can convince u to leave Islam in person.

But I do have safety concerns. .

Peace..

Maam, now stop that nonsense. You have no idea who you talking to. If you want to debate openly about theology, i can refer you. But conversion to worship man-god, 3-headedgods will not happen.
Your confusion and delusion alone is enough. You believe God impregnated a woman(auzubillah), then He begot according to you, then the boy grew up and overthrew His father and himself is now God. Fantastic!. Now get that conversion thing from your head.....3-headedgod worshiper!

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Touching And Amazing Testimony Of An Ex Muslim (MUST READ) by Empiree: 8:13pm On Mar 07, 2015

Ifeann:
Why would u call me a prostit.ute...

Wow u have hurt my feelings.. lol...

Anyway I just posted information contained in ur hadith about how Mohammed ur prophet enjoyed baby aisha...I would say molested aisha but ur hadith says enjoyed... do u have amnesia ..should I vote the passages...

Shaitan is enemy of Allah and His messanger....so we believer will treat him and his agents like you and cohorts as enemies. Deal With It.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 8:02pm On Mar 07, 2015

Ifeann:
Lol. ... please. who who is this Barnabas. ..I hope u know these nonsense u quote are forgeries. there are others like it that historical analysis and dating have firmly confirmed as frauds just like islam..the quest of of the antichrist didn't start today...

Are all other Bibles any better?. You talk about anti-christ, arent bunch of ridiculous verses in the Bible ridiculing Jesus, other great prophets and God Himself, including KJV that you so much love. Which of the Bibles is really relevant, to me.................NONE

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Christianity Etc › Re: Chilling In The Mosque by Empiree: 7:57pm On Mar 07, 2015

Ifeann:
That implies that Prophet Mowas conceived from lustful sex like a low life animal.

- , Poor Mo’s mother

- It also says that Mo was born as a mòron

Allah had to make stealing halal for Mo because Mo was not capable of earning

On the other hand Mo could only kill live people dead
(Mo holds the world record of beheading 900 men of Quraiza in a single day)

- Mo took the sight away from of the seeing . (He had eyes of the Ukul men gouged because they had stolen[b] Mo’s stolen camels[/b] ).

-although Mo prayed and begged Allah for his health for several nights.
Allah made Mo a Satan who killed innocent men and enslaved their wives and daughters and raped them
Allah made Mo a pedophile who made love to children
Quran says Jesus did not die , he was raised to heaven by Allah . Allah did no such favors for Mo. He was buried in ground to rot after he died a very painful death, poisoned by his enemies..

true2god:
Yes, the quran\mohammed is dubios here. The arabs and the Jews run a paternal family system till date. Family lineage is considered along the male ancestors.

Why did quran call Jesus, son of mary, instead of his father's name since nowhere in the bible a child is link to his mother's geneology?

There is no point having intelligent discussion with you. It wont make any sense to you. I will not debate a bigot. You guys are clearly plain enemies of Allah and His messenger. Bigots will be treated exactly the way they present themselves.

Debate with bigots is better of in person->Face to face dialogue<-. I will be glad to refer you to muslim preacher in SW should you want debate live. You can openly challenge him. That's more sensible. But online is just rants rants and rants. So you will be met here same way you present yourself. Pls, do let me know if you are interested. Thanks

It seems you can't debate without uttering offensive statements that you consider "truth". Unless and until you call your brain to order, there is no formal discussion with you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Empiree: 12:20pm On Mar 07, 2015

trustman:
One fact is clear: all men are sinners, and also all men die.

What takes care of the sin issue and where the one who dies spends eternity becomes the next focus.

In Christ Jesus the sin issue is resolved; he died to pay the penalty for sin. By his resurrection (because he lives) anyone who anchors his hope on him can be assured of eternity with God.
All it takes is believe on Jesus Christ as the Saviour and salvation is guaranteed.

No other way or system provides such assurance - None!

you don't know what you talking about

Christianity Etc › Re: 1 John 5:7 Is A Pure Religious Fabrication !!! by Empiree: 12:13pm On Mar 07, 2015

dejilg:
[s]well am happy u r showing us partially the ignorance of allah in this post (I missed dat earlier)...

1. Christians don't define the Trinity as "God, HolySpirit and Jesus"

2. allah never defined the "Three of the quran i.e supposed Trinity" as such as well...

Or u want to prove that allah defined Trinity accurately in the quran?[/s]

Christianity Etc › Re: 1 John 5:7 Is A Pure Religious Fabrication !!! by Empiree: 12:08pm On Mar 07, 2015

dejilg:
U never cease to amaze me by showing ur intellectual gullibility...did I ever say am "confused" It seems u will infer just about anything to make sure u say "you are defeated"....and wen did I twist the doctrine of Trinity aren't u d one claiming to know it and yet can't define it? Why do u muslims set up false argument and put it in ur opponent's mouth
also, u seem nt to show us where the quran defined d doctrine of the Trinity and condemned it, are u scared of showing us ur allah's ignorance?! The only thing u can do is to call ur opponent names and shout "confused" wen u haven't actually used even 1 percent of ur brain to see what is being presented to u...can u interact sensibly and stop running, repeating ur pale "wetin concern me"? remember no 1 dragged u here at first!!!
wow u just posted Shabir Ally's videos (not new to his intellectual suicide arguments). U may find it compelling but d dude can't and wudnt just face Christians with wat dey believe but will do wat u have been doin all along, creating strawmen argument and den knock it down
well, hope u go back to read up, cos I really want u to "make me leave Christianity for good" as u claimed to hold such magical powers! seems u r better at it dan ur shabir ally cos he hasn't even moved me 1 bit.
so reading thro the thread frustrates u? that wud be becos I ddnt fall for ur strawmen arguments...and yes, i guess i annoyed u with the truth...u want me to learn from a taqqiyist like u?

you are very boring

Christianity Etc › Re: Chilling In The Mosque by Empiree: 12:06pm On Mar 07, 2015

9jaforlife:
He pretends he's not a Christian to be able to bash Muslims. I asked him about his belief and he ignored the question! How can you say:

I'm an ex- Muslim (not a Muslim)

I'm not a Christian

I'm not an atheist (that makes him a theist, a believer in at least a form of god).... but he just says he belongs to none of these. Is that even possible?

They think we are foolish

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