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dejilg:
Ur quran never said this why do u lie Show us "what or who the three of the quran is/are".....and no one says "meta lokan baba"....are u dis ignorant? and am nt defending that against the op....wen did u become disenfranchised from the discussion desperation?!

dejilg:
well the Word "Bible" isn't in the Bible, and are u so ignorant that truths doesn't necessarily have to be expressed in single words or sentences? U said God is never described as "three in one", ok, show where God is described as "one in one" The word Trinity is used to sum up a "divine truth" of God's nature, just as the word Bible is used to refer to "His written word to us"...pls do a lil more thinking before u type "empty words" as these

Deut 6:4
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one."

shows that our Human nature can't be compared to God's, that's why Trinitarians do not seek to claim to fully grasp God's nature and Wisdom, but it seems that these "anti-Trinitarian" groups wud know all of God (by using d human nature, hence God is no more dan us in a sense)... I believe many of the don't even know wat the doctrine of Trinity teaches, but dey just attack it

dejilg:
from this ur reply I now know dat u don't even know wat Trinitarianism is about. If u dnt know the difference between "a person" and "a human being", den how can u grasp it wen the trinity uses the words "Person" and "Being" to summarize the so so Scriptural doctrine of the ONE Being of God shared by three co equal, eternal and powerful Persons?

Pls again stop parading ur ignorance, Trinity doesn't equate the Persons of Jesus to be that of the Father or the HolySpirit...but they are the ONE BEING of God...hence the humiliation of Christ made Him to have the Father as His Head!!! doesn't make him less deity as u r nt a lesser human to the president of the country!!!

I will repeat it, Trinitarians show that God's nature is very different from the human nature of (1 being, 1 person)....but I guess all dis "copy and paste" dude wud just limit their own god(s)..."God must be 1 being, 1 person --- sounds more like a human to me"

dejilg:
so since they don't believe in it, does it make it wrong...well they are free to believe it or not...let's not delve into irrelevances!!!
Now u insinuated I don't make any sense cos I believe in Trinity because these ur so called "Christians" don't, do they make sense when they believe in the atonement? or believe in Paul's writings? or that Jesus is the Son of God

dejilg:
Yes, thanks for pointing that out...we can take dem to d scriptures to show them, but I wonder why u got involved at first and now backing out

dejilg:
I wonder wen dis copy and paste article became urs to use in refutation!!! don't even let me go thro' the nonsense, as I hv read it a couple of times before now, the article ddnt even consider d challenge and even provoked further refutation of the rubbish written here.
Am sorry for your inability to read and comprehend, my question was "which version of the quran did muhammed read"...and not "what's the difference between the version of the qurans"...since u claim muhammed read d quran!!!
and don't let us get into the missing chapters, verses eaten by goats and those lost wen the islamic warriors who recited the died in war...
Please answer the Question!!!

dejilg:
Now dis shows how dubious and desperate d quran translators are, now that u hv agreed that allah never mentioned d "Trinity"...can we den say that "allah" never touched on the topic Or u stil wanna claim allah did? Show us this from the quran if so...
I really laff at ur eisegesis and how u shout "Paganism" even wen we have told u to stop misrepresenting the Christian faith...why do muslims set up "strawman argument"?...haven't I told u severally to stop saying we worship "3 gods"...? If u disagree abt ur ignorance on the "Trinity"...den define it according to ur undastnding here and let's see!!!

The Arabic word:ثَلَـٰثَةٌ which means Three (3). So Qur'an is telling you to desist from saying 3 i:e in reference to you who say "three people bear witness" i:e God, Holy spirit, Jesus joined and became One. That's polytheism.

dejilg:
Again, I can see dat u do not relent on claiming to know the Bible, but its ur ignorance that u'd expose, even as it concerns the quran!!! now let's have fun showing how d muslim IQ is so bad!!!

Ifeann:
Why are u always aggressive. .

justlove91:
Hard to answer

justlove91:
In the mosque right now and chilling. The Imam is telling us about life in the grave, some of the punishments it entails before resurrection. The question that keeps going through my mind is what of those that doesn't have grave? those hunters that got eaten by wild animals, those that were cremated. Then I remembered when government wanted to extend one of the streets in my area, when they told relatives of the owner of graves along the streets to exhume the graves because they don't want to build roads on graves. We saw people opening up graves and bringing out bones, the question now is considering the fact that most of the people buried in these graves are idol worshipers, are these bones begin punished in their respective graves?

Justfollowit:
No true muslim would ask her husband to promise never to observe his Solah after marriage. But for matters wholly selfish and personal, we can ask whatever.

Yareey:
That's all you managed to come up with?

I shouldn't be surprised tho... Empty barrel make the most noise after all.

Yareey:
For example
What would a man do if he meets a attractive lady but already has 4 wives?

9jaforlife:
God bless you! At least if deluded Ifeann aka parisbookaddict want to turn everything around and lay the blame of slavery on the doorstep of Islam, good people will be there to tell her the real facts!

You playing the wrong game. A lady can choose whoever she wants to marry, it's her right.

That means she can choose to not marry a man who is planning to have more wives or is open to having more then one wife.

If he lies about his intentions before marriage and decides to marry another women down the line then she can and in my opinion should reconsider her marriage.

The marriage was based on a lie, he was greedy and wanted to have his cake and eat it too. I got no respect for such men.

Yareey:
Why would we have to persuade him after marriage when we can choose what kind of marriage we want before saying "I do". A lady with a working brain will check how he stands in these matters before hand. And make it clear that she will not accept it if he change his mind down the road.

As justfollowit brilliantly said, why leave to comfort of your father's house to be "one of Ahmeds 4 wives"

It makes no sense! Unless your really really poor and Ahmed is a oil sheikh

9jaforlife:
[size=5pt]Have you forgotten that Ifeann is two-faced? Lol. She only likes to do things but she's repulsed when you do those same things to her. She thinks it's not right the way you commented about the 3 in 1 god but she has said terrible things that can't even be compared with one about Allah and Muhammed (peace be on him). She says that you're quoting the bible but has quoted the Quran probably more than all the Muslims on NL combined. Double-dealing Evangelist [/size]

9jaforlife:
Hmm... That was a long read. I find the writer questionable anyway. Why would anyone live for decades among people of shared faith (Muslims in this case, including his own family) and claim that everyone (or most) of them are bad natured? Isn't it funny how he claimed that the first time he ever experienced hospitality was in Australia or so, when an old couple offered him food for free, in a clean environment. Meaning that nobody was ever that nice to him for decades in his home country? And he didn't see clean environments back home? A family that is comfortable enough to send him for schooling abroad? I would even doubt the integrity of anyone who claims that people of different faith are bad. In every religion and even among atheists, you find good and bad people. I don't know why some individuals think that they MUST bash those who hold contrary opinions just to make theirs look good. He claims that he's a smart thinker but he quotes the Quran in a less than smart way. The issue of people twisting Quran verses intentionally to denigrate Islam (or ignorantly misinterpreting them) is now boring but not outdated. Ifeann, aka parisbookaddict and some others do it so well on NL. I posted about 3 comments to point out to ignorant readers who might fall for it here

https://www.nairaland.com/9jaforlife/posts

Anyway, you said you're an ex-Muslim and implied that you're neither a Christian nor an atheist. That makes you a theist, a believer that God exists. Is it possible to be a theist, and yet, not belong to any religion? Just curious, no offence intended. Religion is so diversified these days that it's almost confusing