₦airaland Forum

Tayras:
I like Maclatunji but seems he is taken.....

clear throat....

dont know why i feel reluctant to comment here

tbaba1234

When you say inspiration continues, what does that mean?

Here we go.....that i could not quote when i was mobile. You most likely know about this anyways.

On Dreams, Vision, miracles....

There are 45/46 parts of prophethood....nothing will remain of them except one... dreams/vision are the last part of nabuwa - S. A. W

True dreams are a part of Prophethood, as it was reported that the Prophet said: “True dreams are one of the forty-six parts of Prophethood.”
(al-Bukhaari, 6472; Muslim, 4201)

Dreams marked the onset of Revelation
(al-Bukhaari, 3; Muslim, 231).


The truthfulness of the dream is related to the sincerity of the dreamer. Those who have the most truthful dreams are those who are the most truthful in speech. (Muslim, 4200)

Towards the end of time, hardly any dreams will be untrue. The Prophet said: “That will be because the Prophethood and its effects will be so far away in time, so the believers will be given some compensation in the form of dreams which will bring them some good news or will help them to be patient and steadfast in their faith.” (al-Bukhaari, 6499; Muslim, 4200)

The same may be said of the miracles which appeared after the time of the Sahaabah. This did not happen during their time because they did not need them, due to their strong faith, but the people who came after them needed them (the miracles) because their faith was weak. (sounds familiar)?


The Levels of the Deen

1. Muhsin (Ihsaan) - To worship Allah as if you are seeing him (this is very rear. they say thing that may be strange to averages muslims)
2. Mu'min (Imaan) - Sayings, actions and conviction(this is rear as well but pretty much around)
3. Muslim (Islam) - Submission (here we go. Lots of salafis are here )

- Every Muhsin is a Mu'min and a Muslim
- Every Mu'min is a Muslim but not a Muhsin

So why cant few muslims have "special" gifts as maclatunji seems to downplay with respect to my stories?

samflexxy:
That's why you muslims your topic never make fp its because you discredit other religion nonsense

u think Christianity discredited? Discrediting someone or religion is what your fellow christian displays in this quote ....

chosen124:

i rather follow Jesus than a paedophile, a womanizer, terrorist, a wicked murderer called moha-MAD.

tbaba1234:
lol... You brought it up again..

I actually brought the whole forgotten thread up since 2012. And most likely, i will keep it alive randomly.

Hayubee , here too. Read this thread for booster

usermane, na wa for u oooo. U no get tired of this?. Wetin dey wori u sef? why u dey freaking 1 sided?

tbaba1234:
The fact remains there is no need to over-exert your self when more can be achieve by following the practices of the prophet.

Nah, i dont. You take this too serious

tbaba1234:
One can recite the Quran however many times he wants, the problem is when you put a particular number to be recited for 'x' reward without evidence for it.

Just noticed this. You scared of those heavy counts? Look, bro, there is "code" for everything,...just saying. That's why lots of those heavy bearded Alfas back in the days cant afford it. They would complain "idi mi ti wo", "idi nta mi" . Only in congregation they tend to compromise a little. Still, they would go to chief Imam of the LG to lodge complaints, "that man wan kill person. He got some down to earth dua"....we all laughed afterall.

nawa oooo.... This is a case of kettle calling pot black.

Pls, tbaba, i beg no vex for this little side talks. Okay Jarus, my partner is solely responsible for this but your company discription seems to go along the line. The last time we talked about it, he seems trying to get info and buy reserved(oil) to resell. I need to get more info on this from him. So you probably know what he meant?

Jarus:
You still have not given the background.

I work in the oil and gas industry. I work in the private sector. I don't work in NNPC.

Hundreds of thousands of people work in the sector.

I still don't know what exactly you want, either from the person you said you're chasing or from me

Okay, thanks. Tbaba wants this go private. For mean time, you sound like a smart guy with your profession. I have to visit him sometimes later. I failed to see him yesterday after jummah cus he wanted to discuss on it. We just having hard time with connections

Jarus:
I'm an Accountant.

But your post presumed a lot of things, including that I knew your request.

tbaba1234:
Assalam aleikum

First of all, duas from hadiths are not petty. They are direct instructions and practices from the Messenger. They have to be be read with devotion, understanding and reflection. I do not think anything given to us by the messenger can be regarded as petty. There are established evidences for the benefits of this.

The problem with doing things without evidence is that it becomes open season for all kinds of nonsense.

One can recite the Quran however many times he wants, the problem is when you put a particular number to be recited for 'x' reward without evidence for it.

Some things can be known via experience, for instance, the whole of the Quran can be used for Ruqya but an experienced Raqi would known which surahs have the strongest impact on the Jinn. However, this is based on already established evidence on reciting the Quran on the Jinn and the whole quran is ruqyah anyway.

When you say inspiration continues, what does that mean?

Walaikum salam. I'm sorry for using 'petty' i think i should have chosen proper words or phrase like those are "foundational dua structure". And wait oh, i think you talking about Ruqya here. I'm sorry, i already switched to something else. I was talking in general sense. I wasnt even thinking about Ruqya at all. And when i said those two alfas had problems, i wasnt refering to Ruqya either. You see, evidences are in 'pregant' form in Quran and Sunnah. Some of them are in tafsir, some of them have to be experienced. Whatever you get from there is yours. No one is bound to believe you.

Hey Tbaba1234, when you do sit and reflect on the dua Yasin and reach certain levels in your recitation, if you begin to hear gri gri gri gri i:e walks, know that "won ti de" (they are here). Awon wo ni(Who are they)? . Awon malaika ni ati awon rawaniya. Ki ni won nfe(what do they want)? won ti n gbe bo (they bringing it). Kini won n gbe bo(what is it) salawaat ni (blessings). Allahu Akbar.

They begin to tell tbaba1234 "do as you wish Allah's salawaat is upon you". Thats just example. Only you can experience and hear them. You worked for it. But modern muslims say we dont see this in Quran and Sunna. We say yes, they are there but you are only reading mechanically thats why you cant see it. Even average scholars talk about it everyday but they portray such things as something reserved only for lifeafter. It begins right here on earth. You just have to work for it. Keeping count or not is not mandatory. You keep count only to see how far you go.

On inspiration, I am currently not in position to quote directly from hadith right now. Im mobile. I know you like to search ahadith, there are ahadith that speak about it. There is hadith reported either in Abu Daud or Sahih Bukhari that dreams and (vision) will persist after prophet's demise . Dreams of true Muslims will seldom fail to occur. For example, if a muslim around that status, dreams overnight that his neighbor's house caught fire. He cant tell anyone that. If he does, he may be labelled something. And when the dream comes to pass he then tells about it, they dont have to believe him.

[quote author=tbaba1234 post=27823540]

I have been trying to read up on 'rawaniyah' but nothing comes up. When you say rawaniyah, are you talking about 'good jinns'?? Consulting Jinns or 'angels' as far as i know is not acceptable and can lead to worse problems.

I don't know other name they are (rawaniyah) called. I tried the search too. There are things known without evidence.

Also consulting Jinn to know their 'situation' is like visiting a soothsayer.[/b] That is what soothsayers do, they hear from jinn, add lies and tell the person.

Actually this was the best way to describe the way they(those alfas) sounded. Their opinion not mine.

“Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayers will not be accepted for forty days.”[Muslim]. he four authors of al-Sunan, and al-Hakim in a saheeh hadeeth, narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortuneteller and believes what he said has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad

He's pretty much aware of this so are folks around him. I remember some folks around him at some point in the early 90s practicing (fake) palm readings etc which he condemned.

You see tbaba, i am not here to be his mouthpiece. This is been a little less than 30yrs they(he and Rawaniyah)'ve been friends. Thats way too long. ..."worse problems" like you said are not visible. The thing I like about Sufi scholars is they have very deep sense of explaining things unlike average muslims most of which are on internet basically reading from the books then giving their opinion, fatwa etc.

Contrary to 'mechanical learning', they believe inspiration continues. I certainly believe that. There are all indications from ahadith that such things would continue after the prophets. With respect to issue at hand, average muslims would say your daily salat, nawafil, tahajjud, dhkr etc are good deeds, you get "reward" etc.

But Sufis go a little deeper. They would say your salat, nawafil, tahajjud, dhkr, verses read from Quran very often or lots, would transform to 'rawaniyah' or 'malaika'...that's the way they talk. A gist of this is in Sura Imran. They would even tell you that wudu you make for tahajjud and each step you take to praying spot would send salams on you etc. My point is their explanations are very intuitive. Yes, they do say crazy stuff too that got your eyes rolling.

I personally do not believe that Sahaba were just reading theoretically in their practice of Islam. This is a man that save his counts of sura Yasin since childhood and he told me to keep my counts, too. I dont think any hadith mention this yet, practically, it's just too good, for protection, wealth etc. His recitation of Yasin is in millions since he started. Just that he has no time explaining what he gains from it. The answer is just feasible. Remember this is someone very close and was around him constantly but I am not going to tell you who he is to me. You think I dont know he was criticized in the past by many respected Alfas but they just have no idea. They would just say 'he got something amazing'. All these Yasin overtime are priceless. Results are feasible.

With this importance of Sura 36 and many of it benefits, I dont think hadith talks about it. I am not talking about writing out dua from hadith and reciting it few times and that's it. Which is common today. This is what we reduce Islam to today. But he went beyond that. Sura Yasin, Dua called 'Jabar', and then their khutba are his primary dua that I am familiar with but you must sacrifice ram(sheep, or cow) cus these are some powerful stuff. Your house would be shaking. Wonders begin to transcend. You dont have to believe this. It's all under Lailaha ilaAllahu

But pls if you do read Yasin a lot, you better have some change in your pocket especially if you have infant in the house. If something happens to the baby, I will personally call police for you for manslaughter. Beginner may get high fever at certain level. Yasin transforms....but everything in it are just too beautiful. I am not sugarcoating. Thats how I memorized Sura Yasin at tender age.

We would sit down recite Istigifar, subhanalahi, Ya Gafar, Ya Qohar, Ya Latif, alhamduliah, lahaola walakuwata, salaawat etc 70k each before we even began Yasin 1,111 (one thousand one hundred and eleven) and you think Allah would let this go in vain?. These are just few of what those Alfas just cant do. Anyways, I speak with him very often and I am talking to him today too.

In 2012, I had extensive conversation with him on rawaniyah. Even though back in the days I might be naive but now i have more sense to question. I did. I asked, what does this Rawaniyah gain from this?. He said the only thing he wants is that his clients must take care of him (not rawaniyah but the man i am talking about) and the alfas that organize and make dua. I asked what if client is ingrate?. He replied, nothing happens. We leave everything to God.

But many muslims and alfas we have today don't want to pray. They either do fraud, criticize or read mechanically from Quran and hadith and then conclude. If you want, I can provide you with his contact you pay him visit. But dont expect him to start talking about Rawaniya. That makes no sense. I shut up on this earlier because you didnt want to hear. You think he and Rawaniya contact frequently, you think he confines him?. That's just not the way it works. Rawaniyah himself in most cases contact him without calling. That's why I said this is personal. Sufi like "Alfa Nla" etc better explains something like this. He said "It's your dua that transforms" and we not talking about petty dua gleaned from ahadith. Those are just preliminaries. We live in strange world today where evil folks are ready to conquer. And we muslims supposed to be leading not them. We now have mega Witches and wizards. Muslims must also go mega gaga to deal with them. They dont mess with this man at all. I remember in the 90s, those witches in the hood used to say 'we dont know what he got, he has something walking with him like a shield. The man himself told me that is Yasin. Quran sums things up. Lots of men just dont get it. You are free to reject everything here.

Note, Rawaniyah finally gone last November. He said he wants to devote his services to Allah until he dies. They are not human nor Jinn. Although he said same thing few yrs ago that he was living. The man cried. The relationship is better left to Allah. When I was talking to him around early 2012, he said "Alfa Agba" i:e rawaniyah, suddenly showed up after like 3yrs. So it's to show you he's not confined. And Allah knows best

Jarus:
Masha Allah

Thanks but this is not affirmative. Me and my partner have been looking forward to partner with someone in 9ja but been uneasy. The new NNPC chief seems taunting our request. So you want to gist your position there?.

@ Jarus, you currently work in oil and gas industry ?

akanke79:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtvvcARfCU

jinn tells the sheikh about a muslim neglecting his salaat during ruqyah!

Lots of muslims deserve this as a wake up call. Nice post up there, sister.

AlBaqir:
Bingo! Yeah I know there would be some grumbling voices of 'shirk! Shirk! Shirk!

What sunni have in their sahih sittah, musnad, etc in this regard is abundant but the 'shirk shirk shirk manufacturing company'

@bolds, Lol . They were probably high on shisha when they put them there; and by the time they regained their senses, all of a sudden, they realized this is shirk

You see, I dont like to pretend at all. We need to think practically. We cant pretend there arent real enemies attacks against fellow humans that are super-spiritual out there. Definitely, modern muslims cant confront that. I thought we are supposed to be leading mankind at least groups from among us. Past Ulama had lots of 'swags' (Karaamaat). Their 'swags' alone scared enemies to death.

I was going to tell few real life stories one of which is active. Back in the 90s, the man was criticized by fellas (Alfas) from nowhere. They condemned writing scriptures on wood, wash and drink, in water to drink, for bathing, rawaniyah, using roots and leafs etc. The man doesn't even recognize 'sufism'. I never heard him use the word.

He's just muslim.

One day after (after many criticism by those people months earlier), two of them later came back when they encountered some problems. They asked him for 'quick' way to resolve it and that would cost them less. They are basically saying he should consult Rawaniyah to check the situation. Guess what, the man gave them dua to offer (Surah Yasin) to be recited 313 from midnight before fajr within 3 days.

They grumbled. He didnt care. He said to them that 'do you think that's how I use him' (Rawaniyah)?. You think he's in my pocket here?. Then he told them that Rawaniyah is gone for Umrah. This was the man they criticized and returned to seek help. The man said I am not giving you 'tira' to 'write and hide'. You have to sit down and recite Surah Yasin 313 ([size=5pt]three hundred and thirteen[/size]) and then return the following day. We will then we continue from there.

Those fellas were rolling their eyes like 'we thought you would come up with 'miracle'?'. We all laughed. They thought it was just easy like that but they criticized it when he was performing karamaat with those pastors who came for help. This incident took place in 1994. I just dont feel like telling those stories for now. By the way, those two Alfas seeking help above didnt finish Yasin 313 overnight. One of them said "Idi n ta mi" (my butt hurts) when they showed up a wk later.

Yasin 313 recitation is just too easy for the man in a sit. This is what he was doing since teen. They cant do it but criticized. They later shut up.

[quote author=akanke79 post=27802213][/quote]Ma'am, how did you feel when you read everything you posted here?. You really got nerve posting these. You got me watching my back and shoulders

[quote author=swtbby post=27809864][/quote]We wish to get positive news within a month or less sister. Just sad that you dont have muslims who have guts around you. Just keep up with dua recommended here as much as you can. Inshallah, you will laugh last (positively). Jummah Mubarak

tbaba1234:
This is hadith 3893 and it does not specify a deer skin.

You seem to have concluded that there are ulterior motives because you did not see it, somewhere. It could be a genuine error. Infact, that is what it mostly likely is. I also got this online.

Yes, almost bcuz of coincidence. Let's just assume it was genuine error.

kazlaw2000:
(smiles). It was actually directed at empiree. I felt he was getting apologetic when you guys confronted him. But I think his last post was a nice summary.

I really dont. If i wanted to, i could just write all the stories about it regardless of what anyone says. This is public forum. Personal experience are not taught in school or madrasa. Guides, maybe. It's got to be level of religiosity. As for conforming to salafism, nah, i believe those brothers on YouTube are just screaming on basic levels. I dont have problems with that though. That's just too good for simple Dawah and inspirational purposes. Level of religiosity is not about mosque attendance....rather in personal life.

Let me tell you what i noticed yesterday. Going back to the thread on how to get rid of Jinn, AlBaqir was sincere by saying something about writing scripture on hide of Deer. I know some muslims were rolling their eyes pretending that such don't exist. Although i am not familiar with that. But he found 'evidence' in Sunni text to back his claim.

When i researched the book you presented, it was supposed to be Abu Dawud hadith no 3893. But it looks like they removed it recently. As at this post, it says 3892, 3894. But 3893 is skipped. Looks like it was recently edited. I say why hiding it?. Why only that number while others that criticized magicians are left etc?. I heard this from Sufi scholar (not Imran) a while back that part of scheme against the religion is to place hadith on electronic device to be able to edit them. By removing 3893 displays insincerity on their part. Not that i believe in that particular hadith. Just showing discrepancies in the so called mainstream folks screaming on youTube..'this is shirk, thats bidah'. Enough of that.

As for tbaba opinion on Rawaniyah issue, that we not supposed to put them under our control, he's not. He's not confined by anyone. In most cases he's devoted to prayer. Communication was seldom. But the way the criticism turns now, it wont be wise to go ahead with the tales. Let's leave it as is.

@Jarus, im not talking about Rawaniyah being used in place of ruqyah. Was just trying to narrate stories. Thread only brought it up.

kazlaw2000:
For how long would we be practicing self censorship in order not be seen as non conformist to the Salafi interpretation of Islaam?

Honestly, I dont feel censored. I truly understood what you meant. The thing is, I dont take anything personal online even in my real life, I overlook a lot and move on.

In this case however, I understand tbaba may not be interested. But my position in the story does not necessarily define my creed. I was just trying to tell the stories. But I am not that stupid if I notice criticism against it. I will just cut it off and forget it. In a special situation like this, it's a bonus for those muslims around that status. They dont have to tell anyone. It's between them and their Lord. If they tell the story, no one is bound to accept it. We only accept what is universally accepted according to Quran and Sunnah, Kitab. But this doesnt mean their personal experience is haram.

For instance, milaat nabiy, I have no reason to go against the practice but I do have reason to against it if practiced in central mosque (for example) because it's not universally accepted and I also dont see reason to set holiday for it. Another example is a Sheik that passed away recently, Nazim. He dropped a comment a while back that before someone performs wudu, he(she) should recite surah Fathiah after bismillah. This action may be considered 'bid'ah' to mainstream.

There are indications from ahadith that knowledge, wisdom, kharama (few) will continue after rosul passed away. However, such knowledge, wisdom or whatever it is, are not binding on anyone. One should only accept it when you truly understand. There are different levels of iman. That's my point.

tbaba1234:
I. What is rawaniyah?

Ii. Modern sufism has adopted many elements of shirk except a few of them.

Yes, no doubt there are those "sufis" today who do silly things. It's like saying all Nigerians are credit card fraudsters, drug dealers. That will be unfair, isnt?.

Rawaniyah, though not mentioned in the Quran but here is my view since their existence are confirmed. God mentioned about 25 prophets in the Quran by name and at the same time recognizes existence of other prophets and messangers not mentioned in the Quran. Most or all muslims understand existence of other prophets without evidence. Some look into Christian and Jewish Books to confirm some of these prophets.

In the same way, Muslims who gone beyond foundational layer understand more of this...

^^^I understand what you mean. Here is the thing though, in every religion there is mysticism, for good or bad. Mysticism is a broad phrase that needs to be narrowed down otherwise a muslim thinks of it being Hinduism, Bhudisim, Herbalism, Kabbala(of Judaism) etc. Mysticism is only a deep sense in the religion. Not everyone can reach the status. In Islam, in other to reach the status in halal way, it is got to be only through what is permitted in Islam. Otherwise, one will end up through evil Jinn or simply Jinn.

While I was researching Sufism(mysticism), my finding reveals that it was part of Islam. The thing is we need to look beyond the name itself, Sufism, because it's being vilified by modern Muslims. Even respected Sheiks have said that they regret the name (Sufism) was invented. It could have just been Islam. Question is who was or were responsible for extracting mysticism from Islam?.

Sufis traced and gleaned mysticism(deep sense of Islam) from encounters between the Prophet(saw) and Malaika Jibrail(as).

There is a lovely story from the life of the Prophet Muhammad, remembering that a mysterious visitor came upon him and his companions. The visitor, later revealed to be the archangel Gabriel, proceeded to sit intimately next to Muhammad and quiz the Prophet. He asked Muhammad about three increasingly higher and deeper levels of religiosity, which the Prophet answered sequentially as Islam (wholehearted submission to God), Faith and, lastly, Loveliness (ihsan). This third quality the Prophet identified as worshiping God as if we could see the Divine, and if we cannot, to always remember that God nevertheless sees us.

The sequence is fascinating, as it reveals that what we think of as Islam (the attestation to Divine Unity, the performance of the prayers, the pilgrimage to Mecca, the paying of the alms tax, the fast of Ramadan) mark only the very first layer -- though the foundational layer -- of religiosity. Above that is faith, and above faith is the spiritual and mystical layer of spiritual beauty, for ihsan is literally the realm of actualizing and realizing beauty and loveliness (husn), of bringing beauty into this world and connecting it to God, who is the All-Beautiful.


And yet, today, the word "Sufi" is a highly suspect one for many modern Muslims, and even thinkers and preachers whose frameworks and anecdotes are permeated with those of the mystical dimension of Islam eschew the mere mention of the word Sufi, either not wanting to alienate their suspicious audience or not wishing to "erode" their authority by connecting their teachings to anything other than the Quran and the example of the Prophet.

So how did such a powerful and beautiful dimension of Islam come to be viewed with such suspicion by so many Muslims?

The marginalization of Sufism came about through an initially unlikely perfect storm, an alliance of European Orientalists and conservative/modernist Muslims, whose agenda in demarcating Islam from Sufism ironically supports that of certain New-Agey Universalists who sought to extract Sufism out of Islam.

We now reduced Islam to text (mechanical learning). And that we dont accept any knowledge beyond that. As far as I am concern, I just want to narrate stories regarding a muslim man who attained this level of religiosity. I dont want any NL memeber to see empiree as Sufi. What's even funny is Muslims at that level dont talk much about it.

A sister is being bothered by Jinn since she was 6yrs old I think and everyone here contributed to help with Ruqya and all forms of dua. https://www.nairaland.com/1963721/how-get-rid-jinn

I chose not to be too forward on the thread. I was going to ask what if someone affected by Jinn lives alone, far from vast muslims or lives around non-muslims or naive muslims, can not help himself i:e Jinn takes over him etc. Effect of Ruqya is very limited in this regard (if I am correct). What do we do as Muslims to help such person?.

I say that this is where we need muslims whose level of religiosity is beyond foundational layer to provide help to those at distance. I know a close friend affected by Jinn but lives in German among White folks. He was under grip of Jinn aswadu (evil Jinn) to the extent that he no longer pray Salat, he doesnt recognize he has family etc. And you know in such Western environment, they would consider him insane and either left on the street or dumped in pych facility. Alhamdulilah he was helped mysteriously by muslim from Nigeria. I may tell his story too if i want. Just that stuff like Rawaniyah are seen as non sunnah practices. I say this is beyond scope of average modern muslims.

In 1980s this Rawaniyah was a form of dawah when he performed wonders. He brought pastors to Islam. They never saw such a thing before. And to answer your question regarding condition(s), non in this case of Rawaniyah. I was around him for 20yrs and saw no peculiar conditions offered by him. The thing is you cant invoke "ism'llah" (God's names) and end up settling for less. That's how this Rawaniyah came about. But those who incarnate or call others names other than Allah's name will definitely get the opposite. And Allah Knows Best

sino: No personal experience, heard a lot of stories from my dad and also alfas in my hood.

I heard from my dad the possibilities of communicating with jinns, the process is quite fuzzy now, what i can remember is that you need a young person especially one who hasnt had any intimate relations with anyone. The young person can see and communicate with these jinns after many rituals and incantations(mostly the name of the jinns).
Some people use them to inquire about lost persons and also some people use them for other purposes like fortune or knowledge.

Heard about people being possesed by jinns as well, saw some few peeps who were said to have been possesed, them no dey ordinary o, crazy tins.

Now the info i got from an alfa, he told me he can give me some incantations i can do to call on a jinn, the timing and what i should do when eventually the jinn comes...he told me the jinn may come in form of a raging fire or a lion or some very dangerous creature, he said if i should get frighten then i would be in trouble(might go insane from there)...did i try it? Hell No, he(alfa) himself behaves funny, might well be thaat he himself is possesed lol. There are other stories, but i'll stop here...

I know you have something up ya sleeves, o ya lets hear.

This is amazing, isnt? I didnt even know thread like this exist. I am reading every post here and at the same time looking over my shoulders lol.. It was getting real in my head with tbaba1234 narratives.

The thing is this, stuff that involved incantation etc are just plain haram. I just cant phantom that. I insist on Rawaniyah instead. Just that when a muslim begin this spiritual journey, Jinn may first get in your way a lot like a story i was narrating on another thread. The man was just praying and getting deep into it back in the 60s/70s. Jinn would come in and stole his money and other valuables. At times, they would make noise to distract him. At times, they relieved themselves in his room and they smell worse than shit.

He said one of them even appeared in form of a pretty woman sitting on his table shortly after he took a break and stepped to his terrace in his Lagos Island apartment. He clearly didnt leave any lady inside. Shouldn't expect one. Definitely, she must be something else. She wanted to seduced him. But he quickly recognized she's Jinn. She disappeared after few juz. They knew he was being devoted so they came around. They bothered him like that for yrs before finally getting a break. He later encounter 'Rawaniyah'. Rawaniyah are said to be 2nd in rank to Malaika. Most of them are Muslims. They have lots of Dua to offer. We cant see them too. But when the dua reaches certain level, you hear "salam alaikum". Just that many Muslims treat this part of islam with suspicion this days. He said the first time he heard salam sent to him, he was relieved to the bottom. Unlike the Jinn who just came anyhow to steal and run.

Jinn are no no for me. I dont want those fellas. I barely see folks talk about Rawaniyah though. Those are pure ones. Most do not incarnate. Jinn dont cross their line. The only way to attain that is dua, fast, abstaining from intercourse even from your wife for a little while. Nothing else.

I have a story to narrate regarding this Rawaniyah but the victim he's helping, the case in still active. I want to see how it ends before I say anything on it. But looks like the end is nigh. Brief hint though, the case involves a long time family friend who was attacked in 2009 by his mother-in law, his wife etc. They brought him down to the rock bottom. The incident is taking place from 9ja to NY back n fourth. What do they want from this man is really a million $$ question. Above all, Allah knows and Sees All Things.

Agreed....I dont want to have anything to do with those fellas. Very wicked somebody

Jarus:
Those are the deviant alfas i warned people to be wary of in thread on exorcism .

For 'good' or bad, Muslims are prohibited from using jinns . It is an expressway to shirk. Run away from that alfa pls

baba11:
@Empiree:Am i permitted to share it on my wall ^^ @OP:Try to inculcate some level of sunnahs in your daily activities+adhere to the aforesaid+reciting the glorious Quran+Be tryiing to be in the mosque @ your spare time.May Allah makes it easy for you..........

this is op's and mod's...not mine.

Interior pictures with video and around the building like backyard might be a lot better to convince prospective buyers. Marketing strategy.

sino:
you know I've been thinking of a title to give him though, I think I'll have one before the day runs out lol

CREEPY!. I guess.

swtbby:
salam if any1 experience anything spooky or creepy pls let me know and I shall take everything down .




I always wonder with everything that's going on am I still a virgin . so many thoughts and crazy ideas, voices in my head
God pls bring an end to this

Be patient

MrOlai:
@sino. Thanks so much for ur fantastic contributions. May Allah(SWT) in His infinite mercy bless u in manifold. May Allah(SWT) protect, guide & assist u in all ur endeavours. May Allah(SWT) never let u astray, ur kids and generations dat'll come after u. E ko ni mo apada si aburu Insha Allah (Amin). I'm highly impressed! You've really done justice to d topic.
For Albaqir & others dat are spreading evils on d land, well, Allah(SWT) knows how to judge them! My prayer for them is Allah's guidance b4 it's too late!

They are not spreading evil. This is a space for learning. My understanding of their argument is Shia believe Mut'ah is still active. And by definition, Albair define Mut'ah....

The Arabic dictionaries define mut'a as enjoyment, pleasure, delight.' The root form, m-t-,' signifies, 'to carry away, to take away.' A 'marriage of mut'a' is a marriage which the contract stipulates will last for a fixed period of time.

I dont think both Albaqir and lagoshia claimed unlawful intercourse is allowed. Read LagosShia's quote above. My concern here is if Mut'ah is merely enjoyment, that's not necessarily forbidden. One may enjoy from lawful and unlawful relationship. From all indications from ahadith above, sino and lanrexlan insist mut'ah (whatever it means to them) is banned. But Shia say is it not. Thats why I asked if Mut'ah corresponds with Malika Yamin.

From YouTube vidoes I watched, mostly from Sunni perceptive, they believe Malika Yamin (i:e condition warranting it no longer exist). That condition is what Lagosshia ...quote

mulkul yamin are female captives during war, especially of those whose husbands were fighters and got slain.

Another lecture I listened to indicates that the condition is not just(only) about women whose husband are slained. He believes Malika Yamin still exist. He said it is no longer practiced by Muslim majority is the reason we now have lots of women unmarried or single mothers etc. He gave variety of reasons beyond women whose husband are killed. Basically he went beyond tafsir of old.

So this is not about anyone spreading evil. We learning here.

At least ahadith talk about Mut'ah. Whether it's now forbidden or not is not my concern at the moment. How about MISYAR, did hadith talk about it?. So far no one gave definition of that. And it's practiced in Arab world. Enough with Mut'ah this Mut'ah that.

usermane:
Tell it to the birds, sino. Concentrate on the topic and forget usermane.

you dont smile at on NL