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Eldeedon:
My brother just let them be, e dey very obvious say people we are arguing with don't have brains..

I have never see were someone will just sitdown and be arguing blindly even when the evidence is before them!

Just because they want to please men!

Vary pathetic not only that to please but lying against God and His word.

The embarrassment this new light brought is too huge that is why you see them twisting and throwing all sort of blind arguments.

kinsnazzy:
When a medical article or doctor says “other procedures involve the use of a person’s own blood,” it usually means:

The doctor uses your own blood during the surgery itself, not blood stored from someone else.

This does not automatically mean storing blood far in advance.

Does it mean storing your blood ahead of time?

Sometimes yes — but not always.

There are two different things, so it’s good to separate them:

1. Note this this is wrong : Not stored in advance (most common)

But this this is right :
Your own blood is collected during the surgery, cleaned, and returned to you at the same time.

Examples:

Cell salvage (cell saver) — blood lost during an operation is collected, filtered, and given back to you immediately.

Acute normovolemic hemodilution (ANH) — just before surgery begins, a small amount of your blood is temporarily removed, kept beside you in the operating room, then re-infused during the operation.

Note: This blood is not “stored” in a blood bank.
It stays with you during the whole process.

Jehovah’s Witnesses often consider these acceptable if the blood is kept in immediate connection with the body **(but each person chooses individually)**.

2. Stored ahead of time (pre-operative autologous donation)
Here, a person gives their own blood days or weeks before surgery. It is stored in a blood bank and then used during the operation.

This is long-term storage.
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not accept this, because once the blood is stored separately, outside the body, they view it as no longer part of the person.

Copying and pasting this won't remove the lies you people are trying to cover up.

"But this this is right :
Your own blood is collected during the surgery, cleaned, and returned to you at the same time"

If this is what you mean the GB meant.

Why, did the announcer say STORE and REUSE?

Also, the Watchtower article referencing in that announcement clearly against STORING OWN BLOOD FOR REUSE.

See the screenshot below

It is well with you people sha...

kinsnazzy:
When a medical article or doctor says “other procedures involve the use of a person’s own blood,” it usually means:

The doctor uses your own blood during the surgery itself, not blood stored from someone else.

This does not automatically mean storing blood far in advance.

Does it mean storing your blood ahead of time?
Sometimes yes — but not always. There are two different things, so it’s good to separate them:

1. Not stored in advance (most common)
Your own blood is collected during the surgery, cleaned, and returned to you at the same time.

Examples:

Cell salvage (cell saver) — blood lost during an operation is collected, filtered, and given back to you immediately.

Acute normovolemic hemodilution (ANH) — just before surgery begins, a small amount of your blood is temporarily removed, kept beside you in the operating room, then re-infused during the operation.

This blood is not “stored” in a blood bank.
It stays with you during the whole process.

Jehovah’s Witnesses often consider these acceptable if the blood is kept in immediate connection with the body (but each person chooses individually).

2. Stored ahead of time (pre-operative autologous donation)
Here, a person gives their own blood days or weeks before surgery. It is stored in a blood bank and then used during the operation.

This is long-term storage.
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not accept this, because once the blood is stored separately, outside the body, they view it as no longer part of the person.

Lie upon lies to cover up more lies!

Didn't the announcement say "STORE AND USE..."?

If your own blood is collected, clean and reuse. You didn't STORE IT.

So, why did the announcer say STORE AND REUSE?

Courz:
You can see he refused to answer you because of Shame. After their Governing Body has created Worldwide disgrace. Look at them trending all over social media. How will they go out to preach with this level of embarrassment? 😅😅😅😅

I posted the below screenshot in one of the threads on homepage, guess what he said?

"Only God knows where I got it from."

He couldn't believe such statement is from his own organization.

That is why you see him trying to be clever by half with that definition of blood transfusion.

Very shameless people.

Let him answer those questions I throw to him first.

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blood transfusion
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"A blood transfusion is a common medical procedure where donated blood or components (red cells, platelets, plasma) are delivered intravenously into a patient's bloodstream."

Do you donate your own blood to transfuse yourselves?
Emusan & Achorladey,continue deceiving yourselves.

Izigha !!!!

He wants to deviate from the main point.

Read this part slowly with your brain cells in place:

"Occasionally, a doctor will urge a patient to deposit his own blood weeks before surgery (preoperative autologous blood donation, or PAD) so that if the need arises, he could transfuse the patient with his own stored blood..."

Do you mean your organization also didn't know the meaning of Transfusion?

You didn't believe such statement comes from your own organization. What a shameless thing.

Was Jehovah, Jesus & holy spirit directed your god of men in Warwick in year 2000 for them to have come to that conclusion?

Did your god of men in Warwick Prayed and studied the scripture in year 2000 before publishing that article?

Your answer to these questions will determine if what they claimed "After much prayer and study of the scripture..." in the New LIGHT announcement should be questioned by a honest heartminded person or not.

See the screenshot again below.

cornelboy:
Continue

Continue what?

Janosky:
JW's are not the cause of whatever is paining you
I don't know wetin dey pain you.

We owe you nothing.

He can't answer those questions because je knows the lies will be exposed the more.

They are not perfect but punishing people for their imperfect doctrines, how does that make sense?

Do you even consider people who have lost their love ones against this imperfect doctrines?

Between, Jehovah, Jesus & holy Spirit supposed to be directing the Governing Body, so how can they make imperfect decisions?

Janosky:
Every watchtower edition has page, date & month &year of publication.
Nobody knows how Emusan invented his own watchtower quote.

Emusan go & watch the 17 minute jw broadcast Tv update #2.
Pls remember to screenshot the genuine Watchtower quote from the video.
Oga, you are deceiving yourself.

I love this, which means if the quote is from Watchtower then it means you're lying and Watchtower has exposed you through their own publication.

Anyway, here is the link to the quote https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2000767

This is getting interesting

cornelboy:
Find it yourself
Thank you sir

You're the one who spotted the misinformation, why can't you just point it out?

Janosky:
Have JW's ever claimed perfection ?
No !
But what do you gain from making false claims ?

What we have been doing since the late 1970s well into 2026,you are deceiving yourself it's " new policy shift".

They are not perfect but punishing people for their imperfect doctrines, how does that make sense?

Do you even consider people who have lost their love ones against this imperfect doctrines?

Between, Jehovah, Jesus & holy Spirit supposed to be directing the Governing Body, so how can they make imperfect decisions?

Janosky:
Pls stop deceiving yourself .
Oga,your claim is FALSE.
The This is the truth ooo.
In our Watchtower publication before the Internet came into being;
Perhaps at the time you were a toddler.

"As we can see, there is a growing variety of equipment or techniques involving autologous blood. We cannot and should not try to comment on each variation. When faced with a question in this area, each Christian is responsible to obtain details from medical personnel and then make a personal decision."


Una no dey read all our JW's publications , that is reason the News media will report what JW's have been doing since the late 1970s well into 2026 as "new policy shift".
No policy shift at all.
The update #2 broadcast was to serve as reminders to JW's worldwide.

Lying liar!

The Watchtower 2000 magazine clearly go against STORING BLOOD FOR TRANSFUSION but here you are twisting the same magazine of your own organization.

"Occasionally, a doctor will urge a patient to deposit his own blood weeks before surgery (preoperative autologous blood donation, or PAD) so that if the need arises, he could transfuse the patient with his own stored blood. However, such collecting, storing, and transfusing of blood directly contradicts what is said in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Blood is not to be stored; it is to be poured out—returned to God, as it were. Granted, the Mosaic Law is not in force now. Nevertheless, Jehovah’s Witnesses respect the principles God included in it, and they are determined to ‘abstain from blood.’ Hence, we do not donate blood, nor do we store for transfusion our blood that should be ‘poured out.’ That practice conflicts with God’s law."


You can keep lying to defend Watchtower but the same watchtower will keep exposing your lies.

Uk2026:
There is nothing like walking up now. Jehovah's witnesses never claimed to be infallible. They never their explanations of the scriptures to be inspired. They are humble and have consistently provided updates on their understanding of the scriptures. They seek to obey God first knowing fully well that obeying God does not require understanding everything fully at the same time. While people chose to ignore God's to abstain from blood, they chose to obey first and adjust when more light is thrown on it.

They never claimed to be infallible but they are the direct channels Jehovah, Jesus & The Holy Spirit is using to communicate to people today. Can Jehovah, Jesus & The Holy Spirit communicate error to people?

The are fallible but always using Prayer and the Scripture to draw conclusions. So, why using Prayer & scripture when you know you're infallible?

If they are fallible, why punishing their members on what supposed to be like an advice for the members?

If they are fallible, why not just tell your members that it's not instructions from God's word?

Yet they keep lying against God for their personal opinion hiding under accurate knowledge of God's Word and being directed by Jehovah.

The evidence is there that they are false prophet lying against God

achorladey:
To see various foreign news media picked it up up makes it interesting. When the latest news developments are scrutinised, the consequences will be interesting to see

You remember this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/6943805/jehovah-witnesses-right-belief-against/51#138856028

The creator just told me to stop spreading misinformation

cornelboy:
Stop spreading misinformation

Show me the misinformation I'm spreading...

cornelboy:
Let say God prohibited the drinking of alcohol for christians, don't you think taking it via any means like injecting it to your body would violate His order?

JWs take medications and use the hospital but they don't just take in blood in any form. If the only way was blood transfusion, they wouldn't go for it cos they believe that even if they die, they will resurrected and meet their loves one again in the future.
I'm not yet a JW. I haven't been baptized.

You can't say that it's a dogma, it's clearly a Bible concept.

While growing up, my perception bout
the JWs was bad cos of what i heard bout them. But it's not alright to judge base on other's opinion. Find out yourself.

Christianity today is not in pure form. Our beliefs are influenced by Roman Catholic dogmas.
But the JW strives to find and believe only the Truth.

I'm wondering how you will feel now that the same organization has approved Blood Transfusion.

So, all these is just to lie against The True God.

cc
Achorladey
Courz

MrSamsung:
Where did this happen? Please share the video

The reason many of you people think they are peaceful is because you never have close interaction with them.

I can't forget this statement from a jws friend "My Aunty died unhappy"

Do you know bad it is for such statement to come from a teenager living with her Aunty?

Meaning, she experienced first hand wickedness pour against her Aunty.

achorladey:
It's more embarrassing now to respond than years back. They thought their GODS of men housed in USA have figured it all out. They thought there were doctrines that were off limit. Here we are, there illusion shattered.

This particular 'New Light' will do a deadly blow to that organization in few months to come more than their failed 1914 prophecy, then they'll realize it's actually New Darkness.

The news is almost on all social media and see people's comment under it, forget what the fake elder and Janosky are saying here.

achorladey:
That's a sad reality for many who were conditioned not to use their perception powers to know they are led astray and to their death by who say they are only God's channel on earth

I asked Janosky simple question now, I discovered he couldn't answer unlike before.

The question: Is Blood Transfusion now bad?

Remember, they always talk about how Blood Transfusion is bad and has caused many death which is the reason they opt for Bloodless treatment.

Janosky:
Oga, pls go back to school & acquire comprehension skills.
You need am.

The behavioral of shamelessness.

He can't reject Blood Transfusion again

What a wonderful God I serve

chimex38:
they died for their faith and were ready to die, so I think nothing to lose. I think judgement will mostly be on their deeds prior to death.

The probable negative fallout is to the survivors especially if the deceased were bread winners or had other sensitive responsibilities.

They died for their faith you said.

Do you people even realize that Watchtower lied against God for saying God through the BIBLE REJECTED BLOOD TRANSFUSION.

Those people didn't died because of their faith but because of the lie pull against God.

You can only died for your faith when the course you died for is on truth ground not lied.

I don't know how you people usually leave this part out.

Janosky:
I have that 1980's watchtower publication in my library.
You know these non JW's don't read our publications,especially those who don't like us..
They heard the info on TV & decided to report "new adjustments" wey JWs done dey do since before the 1980s.

You know this but yet you're always rush to defend rejection of BLOOD TRANSFUSION.

So, it's being known for years that Jws can actually store their own blood and take it back.

So, why do you always rush to preach how Blood Transfusion is bad and had caused many death?

Why do you always rush to talk about how Jws shape the medical system with Bloodless treatment because of their rejection of Blood Transfusion?

You see how you people are evil and hiding under God's name to protect the evil.

So, now do you agree Blood Transfusion is bad that your god of men say you can store you own blood and take it back?

Janosky:
Oga stop deceiving yourself.
Screenshot evidence

I remember how you were jumping up and down about this story justifying watchtower nonsense about Blood Transfusion but look at how the same watchtower put you to shame today.

You know the reason why I always advise you people to keep pondering on this verse from the blessed Apostle Paul "Then we will no longer be immature like children. We won’t be tossed and blown about by every wind of new teaching. We will not be influenced when people try to trick us with lies so clever they sound like the truth." - Eph 4:14

tctrills:
I actually don't think members of any religion should be making the changes. It should always be up to the leadership if there must be order.

Also, to be honest, there isn't any church that is over a 100 years that has not make several important changes.

I also think that this is a positive start for the JW but I still think that the new rules bring a new set of problems. From what I was told, the new rule allows JW members to bank their own blood for the rainy day. This new law would bring about wild spread inequality.
In richer communities this wouldn't be a challenge, but the poor in 3rd world countries can't keep to this.
The church doctrines shouldn't be to benefit the rich at detriment to the poor.
I hope to be further educated on this though. But in general, this is healthier than the old law. Whomever was responsible for the old law is clearly a mass murderer.

Where you people are getting it wrong is making God a liar with man made rules.

For instance, when Kumuyi claimed TV is a devil's tools I don't think he attributed it or God or something Bible rejected.

Watchtower on the other hands always making God a liar.

Pre-2026 rejection of Blood Transfusion has been hung upon WHAT GOD REJECT THROUGH BIBLE or simply put God's law rejected Blood Transfusion.

So, if God rejected Blood Transfusion with various scripture used to support it, does that mean those scripture suddenly vanished or rewriting by God?

Even looking at the broadcast of this new light, it was said "After much PRAYER and study of the scripture...."

Tell me, is this how God works through the history?

promami:
Yes

So why this announcement and update?

Courz:
That's the exact point I expect JWs to ask themselves. Whether you are taking your own blood or someone's blood, You are still practicing Blood Transfusion that they kick against. IT IS BLOOD. What's the point of emphasizing on your blood when you are still breaking the same rule? This is why I believe their Governing Body just provided a loop hole for them to take other people's blood. They are too proud to admit they're wrong in their doctrine. But this is after millions have died. Give them some time, they will say JWs are free to take blood from others. This update is just a tip first before the main thing.

The most astonish part is that they used scripture to condemned taking Blood, which scripture will be used to support taking Blood.

That's the question they can never answer!

achorladey:
I just dey reason how this matter go be after dem analyse everything finish. This is just the beginning.

They'll keep shifting the goal post and at the end their brainwashed members will just moved on.

achorladey:
Wahala be like wetin again

Pre-2026 blood storage was against God's law

Now, you can store your own blood.

Which God's law NOW allowed blood storage and which God's law prohibited blood storage?

Their case is like that of APC supporters who knows everything is wrong with the nation they're governed but because of blind loyalty to the party they keep defending the obvious lies.

Eldeedon:
Asin! That update is the most stupidest of them all!! If you can take your blood in, what's the difference taking someone else blood.

The next thing they'll do now is to bring a new version of NWT to reconcile with this New Light.

Courz:
Jehovah's Witnesses, once again in the mud. Just imagine the blood on the hands of these Freemason Governing Body. After sacrificing these people to their gods and seeing that the sacrifices are not working and they are being targeted by Governments in different countries, they decided to allow Jehovah's witnesses donate, store and transfuse their own blood. Chai. Great punishment loading for these evil men.

I once told them on this platform that a New Light will come about Blood Transfusion and they'll start to defend it. Honestly, I didn't know it will be this quick!

Now, they're the one defending BLOOD TRANSFUSION as a choice.

promami:
What is not true is that if your blood or parts of it used for your treatment would result to disfellowship.

Has this been known for years by Jws worldwide?

achorladey:
In my case, I saw it just around 1pm this afternoon on one social media platform. I was just laughing seeing it and hearing Governing Body has decided that

See the below.......

You see that liar and manipulator on nairaland jumping in their defense to say they are right regarding the latest development because the bible did not say anything regarding use of one's own personal blood

cc: Eldeedon

Definitely, different spirits inspired the two statements.

And one thing is sure, the two spirits aren't from the True God.

achorladey:
Loooooool, shame far from them. They can speak from both side of their lips without blinking their eyes with lies and manipulations.

I wonder how those blood fractions that are banned comes into play regarding the latest development

Very pitiable!

People who have been defending BLOOD TRANSFUSION all this while suddenly begin to change mouth.