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Tony Elumelu should be calming down. That's how we roll here in Califonear.

If no be sey baba don old, the interview for lead to another thing. Na God save the girl.

NEARLY 30 YEARS IN CANADA, NOW FACING DEPORTATION 🇨🇦

Imagine building your life in Canada for almost three decades, only to face removal from the country you have called home for so long.

Roman Slepcsik came to Canada from the Czech Republic in 1997 seeking refugee protection. He was accepted as a refugee and became a permanent resident in 1999.

But years later, his repeated trips back to the Czech Republic became the centre of an immigration case. Canadian authorities determined that his return trips and use of his Czech passport showed that he had voluntarily re-availed himself of the protection of his home country.

As a result, his protected-person status was ceased, and he lost his permanent resident status. He now faces removal from Canada after spending more than two decades building a life here.

The case has raised important questions about what happens when a former refugee returns to their country of origin years after receiving protection in Canada.

What do you think about this case? Should someone who has lived in Canada for decades be at risk of losing permanent residence because they returned to their home country? Share your thoughts respectfully.

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Catholics, please educate me without insults. Why is a human skull being carried and honoured during a Catholic service not considered idolatry worship?

This is a very reasonable question, especially for someone who is not familiar with Catholic theology. If you see Catholics carrying a human skull, kissing a relic, kneeling before it, putting flowers around it, or processing with the remains of a saint, it can naturally look like worship.

So, what exactly is the Catholic explanation?

The answer begins with an important distinction:
Catholics believe there is a difference between worshipping something and honouring the person represented by or connected to that object.

In Catholic theology, worship belongs to God alone. The Catholic Church calls the worship given to God latria. It means recognizing God as the Creator, Lord and ultimate source of salvation. Catholics believe that no saint, angel, relic, statue, image, or human being can receive this kind of worship.

For example, when Catholics celebrate Mass, they believe they are worshipping God, not Mary, not Peter, not Paul, and certainly not a piece of bone.

This is why Catholics can say "We honour the relic, but we do not worship the relic."

To someone outside Catholicism, however, the obvious question is: "But if you kneel before it, kiss it, carry it in procession and pray near it, how is that different from worship?"

That's where the Catholic concept of veneration comes in. Catholics distinguish between:
• Worship = given to God alone
• Veneration = honour given to saints
• honour = given to sacred objects and relics because of their connection to God and His saints
The important point is that Catholics believe the object itself has no divine power simply because it is a relic.

A saint's skull is still a human skull.
The bone is not God.
The saint is not God.
The saint is a creature of God.
So why honour it?

Because Catholics believe that the body belonged to a person who lived for God and is now with God.

Think about it in ordinary human life.
Imagine that your father dies.
You keep his photograph.
You might keep his clothes.
You might keep his Bible.
You might keep his wedding ring.
You might even kiss his photograph.

If someone asks:
"Why are you kissing that photograph?"

You wouldn't say: "Because I believe this photograph is my father."

You would say: "This reminds me of my father. I love the person represented by it."

The photograph isn't the person. But because of its relationship to the person, it has emotional and personal significance. Catholics make a similar argument concerning relics.

They are not saying: "This bone is God."

They are saying: "This belonged to a person who belonged to God, and we honour what God did in that person's life."

But is there anything like this in the Bible?
Interestingly, the Bible contains several examples of God's people treating the remains of holy people with great respect.

Joseph's bones.
Before Joseph died, he made the Israelites promise that they would take his bones with them when God eventually brought Israel out of Egypt. Genesis 50:25 says: "God will surely visit you, and you shall carry up my bones from here."

And when the Israelites left Egypt, Moses fulfilled that promise: "Moses took the bones of Joseph with him." Exodus 13:19

The Israelites did not believe Joseph's bones were God. They did not worship the bones. But they considered the remains of this important servant of God worthy of respect and preservation.

So, why isn't a Catholic carrying and honouring a human skull of a saint necessarily worship?

Because Catholic theology makes a fundamental distinction between worship and veneration.

The skull is not God.
The saint is not God.
The relic does not replace God.
The worship belongs to God alone.
The relic is honoured because it belonged to someone whom Catholics believe lived a holy life and now belongs to God.

The Bible itself contains examples of God's people preserving the bones of Joseph, God's power being associated with Elisha's bones, and extraordinary healings occurring through objects associated with Paul.

Ultimately, the Catholic argument is not:
"We worship the skull, but we call it something else."

It is: "We do not believe the skull is God in the first place. We honour what it represents and the person to whom it belonged, while worship belongs to God alone."

And perhaps the most important lesson is this:
Before calling another Christian an idolater, first understand what that Christian actually believes.
You may still disagree with the practice. You may still find it uncomfortable. You may even conclude that the practice goes beyond what you believe Scripture permits. But disagreement should come after understanding, not before it.
A sincere question deserves a sincere explanation not an insult.

But can Catholics get this wrong?

Absolutely.

This is an important part of the discussion. The Catholic distinction between worship and veneration does not mean that every individual Catholic has perfect understanding or perfect practice.

A Catholic could potentially treat a statue, relic, medal or saint as though it had magical powers.
That would be a problem.

The Catholic Church itself teaches that superstition is wrong.

A relic is not a magical object.
A saint is not a replacement for God.
Mary is not God.
Peter is not God.
A statue is not God.
A bone is not God.
God alone is God.
So if someone were to say: "This relic has power independent of God." that would not be the Catholic theological position.

Rev fr Prince Chidi Philip



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Yinmu! Just talk sey you miss prick.

Very good talk. That's why I no longer use my prick to sleep with any girl again. I now use only my fingers and tongue. By so doing no girl will accuse me of pregnancy, neither would I be infected.

Omo, national ebarasement is loading for all Nigerians. Atiku abeg now

Samantha125:
Do they actually sleep with these women?

you wan help dem?

LadyExcellency:
You. mean poor children should kill their parents? Alternatively, rob a bank to stop the cycle of poverty in their lineage.

Nawa for some of you who prefer net worth to integrity (selfworth)

You see why it is not good to come from a poor family. When you're rich, and you're from a very rich family, the whole world will respect you.

This hediot is always talking like a tout.

UnassailableTru:
This is not good for you. You went to school and just wasted your family resources. Please could you go back to school? What is "reach" in your comment. Next time please ask your village headmaster to spell it correctly for you. It is rich

you've been noticed. Now go and play with your toys.

Lithiumite:
This thing Trump dey take play go still lead all of us to 3rd world war......make all of us dey play dey go.......Just one US carrier to chop bombing and all hell will be let loose......he go even touch you wey you dey far away in agulu.

let dem wait till we finish our elections in Nigeria o.

You see why it is not good to come from a pour family. When you're reach and you're from a very reach family, the whole world will respect you.

This babe too dey hungry me. I dey always imagine her ringtones inside ze oza room. Her ringtones go bad.

Haaaaaaaaaaaa! That's a sign of HIV/AIDS o. To be precise that's the final stage.

The same old song after every election

The Iranians most especially the ladies should come to Nigeria and settle down. We are a very loving and peaceful country.

yarimo:
keep fooling yourself in a public forum

e pain am. I have eba and egusi soup but no meat. Make I bring am make you chop?

madridguy:
Their message is simple, stay in your country.

which country? I hope you're not referring to Nigeria as a country?

yarimo:
Mteeeew why didn't he say this before the election? Scammers everywhere claiming elder statesmen

i understand your frustration. Na the symptom of poverty be dat.

Omo, see how a very reach man dey close and get confidence in God. No wonder they are all very reach in their family. Pour me dey here dey form. I no know which dey I fast last, longer throat and olosho no dey gree me fast and talk to God. Una I just have to change and get closer to God o.

She must have died of exhaust. Going up and down, she must have been very tired and died of exhaust.

Very good. Let her carry her feeding bottles go feed her childrens

This Sowore is nothing but an agbaya.

It's very obvious that Nigeria is goned

Oyetola lost. Not APC. Governor Adeleke will likely join fellow PDP bigwigs who are now in APC to take over the party structure, perhaps with the understanding of Omisore and other APC leaders bullied into submission with Oyetola's federal might. Oyetola becomes irrelevant. His minion AMBO follows suit as the new structure will influence federal appointments if Tinubu wins a 2nd term. Oyetola is the real loser.

Oyetola lost. Not APC. Governor Adeleke will likely join fellow PDP bigwigs who are now in APC to take over the party structure, perhaps with the understanding of Omisore and other APC leaders bullied into submission with Oyetola's federal might. Oyetola becomes irrelevant. His minion AMBO follows suit as the new structure will influence federal appointments if Tinubu wins a 2nd term. Oyetola is the real loser.

benuejosh:
It is either APC wins or APC wins.

suffering no dey tire you?

Na now APC come to understand the meaning of the song, THEM GO FEEL IT by Davido.

Biggest congratulations uncle Demola, na man you be.

Imole de. Imole wo ile. Oju ti won. Adeleke one more time. It's another dancing tenure. Congratulations Davido and the good people of Osun State.