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"I Now Pronounce You Man and Wife": Replying Reno.

Reno was right when he wrote that no pastor or priest has the power to make the above statement. He was also right to point out that the bible has no record of weddings taking place in the temple or conducted by prophets or apostles.

More importantly, Reno quipped that wedding is simple, we are the ones making it complicated and expensive today, that is incontestable.

I understand it wouldn't have been the Reno we know if he stopped at those salient points, somehow he must by default or fault court controversy by dragging both the Catholic church and biblical exegesis into his blog.

Reno said it was the Catholic church that introduced wedding in church to MAKE MONEY. I'm wondering where he got that idiotic idea from. Firstly, Reno continues to excel in "resourceful ignorance" in biblical exegesis. Saying that wedding should not be celebrated in the church because it was not done like that in the bible is like saying the dead should not be brought to church for prayers before burial, since it's not in the bible.

Same thing applies to baptism, we never read in the bible of anyone baptized in the temple or church. Jesus was baptized in a river, the Ethiopian eunuch in pool of water by the roadside, Cornelius and his household were baptized in his house. In Reno's 'omniscient' logic we should baptize anywhere except in the church.

Even the breaking of bread (the Eucharist) and Sunday worship were never done in a church during the apostolic times, believers gathered in their homes, maybe we should apply Reno's 'almighty' logic and stop meeting in churches, let's split ourselves and conduct Sunday worship at our homes.

Reno and his likes cannot distinguish between what is not IN THE BIBLE and what is NOT BIBLICAL, and that's where qualified bible experts separate from bible enthusiasts. The latter have no business teaching authoritatively about and from the bible.

The disciples didn't meet for the breaking of bread in a church because there were no church buildings yet. Celebrating marriage, doing baptism and other pious acts in the church may not be in the bible, but they are biblical.

Some things are not in the bible, but they are biblical, some things are in the bible, but they are not biblical. Divorce is in the bible, but it's not biblical and the Jews were shocked when Jesus gave that teaching.

Hating your enemy is in the bible but not biblical, slaughtering idol worshippers like Elijah did is in the bible but it's not biblical. We don't just do things simply because they are in the bible or refrain from doing things simply because they are not in the bible, we do things that are biblical.

The major reason we celebrate marriage in the church is because it is a sacrament. When Jesus gave Peter the key to the kingdom and the authority to BIND and LOSE, celebrating the sacraments in the church and other spiritual legislations are the exercise of this KEY. Binding and losing here means the authority to teach, lead and govern believers.

By the way, " I now pronounce you man and wife" is not part of catholic liturgy, if you hear any catholic priest say that during celebration of marriage, he is improvising and adding unnecessarily. In fact, marriage is the only sacrament where the man and woman are the ministers, the Catholic priest is just a witness and his presence is necessary because of the eucharist.

The Catholic church teaches that marriage is established by the consent of the man and woman. So they marry themselves, the priest does not wed or pronounce them man and wife, or better put, they don't become husband and wife by the pronouncement of the priest.

Finally dear Reno, quit making allegations you can't substantiate. Marriage is the cheapest celebration to be done in the church, if you see any priest charging people for marriage, report him to his bishop, call him out. Beyond the official fees called stole fees and maybe some tokens for documents, the Catholic church charges no one a Kobo for marriage.


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I am not a professional movie reviewer and I cannot recall if I have done up to 5 reviews here. Mostly, I watch and discuss my thoughts with my wife and a few friends informally.

One of the things I admire about the arts is the ability of everyone with ears, eyes or the sense of touch to judge. The arts is to magnanimous that it allows even f00ls to air their opinion and they do not even have to be f00lish. Unlike the sciences where you work towards a predetermined outcome, the arts allows you the license to run freely and claim wherever you land is your outcome.

POSITIVES
Jagun Jagun is a sweet beauty to the eyes and I am excited that it shows the ability to extract emotions from the viewer. Agemo’s dy.ing scene while in the hands of Gbotija and the duel between Gbotija and Gbogunmi stood out for me. I had the rush of emotions that should come with such developments.

I love the generous use of costumes, the scenery of the location, and the crisp and clear image cum sound. Quite enjoyable was the exciting use of Yoruba anecdotes, proverbs and alliterations- a very fundamental beauty of the Yoruba Language (though I think it was overused in certain instances).

The interplay of the metaphysical and natural strength was also brilliant. Introducing the character of Agemo, the masked demon-assassin, is a novel illustration of how warriors who have higher and deeper pacts with the extra-terrestial and celestial could summon agreements to gain an edge over their adversaries when the tide is again them.

I was also impressed with the clean bl00d-spilling, skin cutting tricks. It is a nice departure from the quack job of the past. Particularly, I love the mirage that coalesced into an image from the battlefield before Ogundiji, which compelled him to summon Agemo’s intervention. I had to go watch that scene again.

I love the way the movie presents the complications and complexities of love in the relationship between Gbotija and Gbogunmi on one hand, and Gbotija and Iroyinogunkiitan (Agemo) on the other hand.

How a villainous character like Gbogunmi, who from all indications is the de-facto 2iC to the super villain, Ogundiji, could defy his master’s order to invade his mother-in-law’s village speaks to how love conquers the dark desires of the vilest man. This is what set events that would lead to his eventual demise in motion.

While in the amphitheatre, sparring with Gbotija, his adopted son, it is love that k!lls him and not the knife. Taking a deep look at the scene, while Gbotija summons the intervention of the wood out of which the handle of the knife Gbogunmi held was carved, it is the metal and not the wood that pierces Gbogunmi. The expression of shock on the face of Gbotija when Gbogunmi is struck and when he is on the ground shows it is the willing de@th of a villain in love with a protégé whom he cannot afford to kill. You will see proof in at least four occasions before that point where Gbogunmi has the chance to kill Gbotija but withdraws. It is not taunting. It is love complicating life for two worthy adversaries.

Move forward.

Agemo is a powerful masquerade but while we confirm it is controlled by Ogundihji, the vessel is Kiitan who is madly in love with Gbotija. When love comes in, even the spirit is weakened. History is replete with millions of instances of otherwise powerful folks that love pulled down. It is not the tree branch that kills Agemo. It is the love that hesitates when it comes face to face with the one it worships. Else, Agemo takes out Gbotija in the twinkling of an eye.

It is the hope that k!lls. Scratch that. It is the love that k!lls. Love is a beautiful burden that complicates the ease of life.

The introduction of Ibrahim Chatta at the end! What a way to keep your audience asking for more. Fem Adebayo just subtly committed himself to a sequel. Now, he cannot escape it.

NEGATIVES
There is NO perfect work of art anywhere. In fact, its imperfection is what makes it an art. Hence, the movie has got a number of negatives that must be checked WHEN (not if) the sequel is ready.

The frequent twitching of head by Ogundiji is needless and an overkill. The locked, dirty beard does nothing to make the character more fearsome. We have seen more terrible characters less dirty.

The cast was too crowded with superstars that many of them had redundant roles that could be taken by lesser known actors that this movie would have given an opportunity to make a big announcement of themselves on the scene. I understand the business side of the initiative but I think this was an opportunity lost to blood new talents.

The development of the story is quite tacky at some point that you may wonder if a better job could not be done. Generally, it is fine but it could be far better if the same efforts that went into aesthetics had gone into story/plot development.

I am not sure about the Oriental/Western-styled choreographed sword moves and fight. It is not Yorubaish. Historically, our warriors wrestle, shoot arrows and to a large extent engage machetes at the war front. I could excuse the use of guns if I am to infer from Ogundiji’s conversation with Gbogunmi at the scene where we first see the later that the new weapons supplied by the Whites are guns. He actually said “I have reserved three for you but I will teach you how to use them”. The only conflict I have here is the fact that in the scene before, I think I saw warriors with guns on the battlefield. Perhaps, some of Ogundiji’s serving warriors had access to them before Gbogunmi knew of their existence.

I have written about the excessive use of alliterations earlier.

I hope Ibrahim Chatta does not continue with the sniffing thing he seemed to show off in the sequel WHEN it is released. That would be a disaster to what should be an exceptionally brilliant character.

MY DEDUCTION
As with a standard Yoruba movie, Jagun Jagun is rich in didactics. There are both subtle and open lessons for social well-being.

I reckon the movie is presented like an epic. But I dare say it is not an epic and it is on this basis that I forgive its many flaws, lest, I could be less generous in my commendations.

Jagun Jagun is a socio-political commentary, mirroring the African (Nigerian) reality.

Ogundiji is a politician and a political system.

He is ruthless, devoid of empathy and full of dark emotions. He invades a town, sacks its inhabitants, crushes its system of governance and imposes a king, who is his vassal, on it. He runs a warrior academy, identifying smart talents and grooms them in the art of war, not with the mind of setting them free to become deliverers, but that they may be a willing tool in his hands to perpetuate his enterprise and expand his empire. Ogundiji does not develop anyone or spare a soul for the general good. It is about what benefits Ogunjimi in the end. Just think about how he discovers young Kiitan and what he makes of her eventually.

If he had not died in the end, I am certain he would aspire to be king and overlord over all the lands he had conquered with their kings officially becoming “kinglets” (imagine piglets) under him.

It would simply be a case of “I have served you all enough. I also want to be President (sorry, king)”.

The passing reference to “awon Oyinbo ti ko awon irin ise tuntun kan wa fun wa” (the Whites have brought us some new weapons) by Ogundiji while speaking with Gbogunmi is an indictment on the complicity of the West in the many intra-tribal and national wars plaguing Africa (read Nigeria). As Ogundiji explains, they send the weapons in appreciation of what he is doing.

Clearly, there is a higher interest that benefits from Ogundiji’s wars beyond him. While he is allowed to decide who takes what in terms of political leadership in the conquered lands, his masters (the West) who supply him weapons and ammunitions corner their benefits in having unrestricted access to pillage the resources of these blessed lands for their own good and the preservation of their citizens who are shielded from the relentless blood-letting.

It is the reality of what plays out today. The West finances fratricidal wars in Africa, installs and supports tyranny, looks away from electoral fraud when it serves their interests and watches Africa burn to light their own streets.

Ogundiji dies in the end but do not be shocked if he resurrects in the sequel or Ibrahim Chatta becomes the new Lord of the Manor.

You ask me why? Because evil never truly dies except there are more Gbotijas who never forgive vileness but will cut it down no matter where it is and how long it has existed.

Did I tell you to be careful with offending women especially those who know your limitations? Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Ogundiji learnt that the hard way.

My rating? 8/10 and this is largely due to the subtle way a political malady is expertly portrayed.

You can disagree with me but remember, this is the arts where every viewer has a meaning they find in the work.

Hezekiah Akinrinde
15082023

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Basiljoe:
Bad guy, my role model.

she needs someone to fill up the vacuum

Ekpekus:
Use your brain.... it is possible.

build one first make we see. Not just with mouth

Please tell her that I am available o

May the evacuation favour me and my family

CoronaVirusPro:
Naaa!

I am not as rich as Elon Musk and I own a total of 10 acres across Canada.

It’s not as difficult or expensive as you assume.


Though a new law as stopped sales of land to foreigners

that is the difference between Nigeria and Canada

The marriage will favour me and my family

Ekpekus:
Open up your circle...
Your can make buddies and attend free events even in winter.
And who told you land can't be bought and house built?

how many have you built there? If e easy, why you never build one there?

Ekpekus:
Open up your circle...
Your can make buddies and attend free events even in winter.
And who told you land can't be bought and house built?

how many have you built there?

BigDawsNet:
We are not ready

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Insha Allah the deployment will favour me and my family

Hear the modafoka. Just about three month into your stolen mandate, you're already giving excuses. It is obvious that your husband has nothing to offer the country, he is only there to fulfill his political ambition and also make you the first lady. Nigerians are in for it

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Nigeria: You can have many Househelps

CANADA: You Can't, too expensive. You'd do everything yourself

NIGERIA: You can have your mechanic come to your house and pick/fix your car

CANADA: You gotta book for the mechanic 1/2 weeks ahead and take/tow your car to their store.

NIGERIA: You can buy land and build your own house

CANADA: You CAN'T except you are Elon Musk. You will have to mortgage a property and pay till you are 65-70 years old

CANADA: You Pay Property Insurance

NIGERIA: Wetin be this 👆👆👆

NIGERIA: Average car Insurance is 70k naira Per year

CANADA: You pay at least $150 pm depending on Area

NIGERIA: You have a good circle of friends and buddies around you

CANADA: You are isolated, your closest buddy might be 10 hours drive away.

CANADA: Beaches, Parks and waterside entries are free

NIGERIA: Eruku must collect money before you enter Elegushi or Alpha beach

NIGERIA: Tech is still in its Infancy, so you have buffet to feast on if you know what you are doing

CANADA: Tech is advanced and you are in constant battle with Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese and others

NIGERIA: 12 months for enjoyment and to have fun

CANADA: You only have 3 month to really enjoy and that's if you can afford it

NIGERIA: As a single woman bad as e bad, you'd still have one or two guys on your case and ready to serve😘 

CANADA: You'd rely 99% on machinery  🤐🤐🤐

NIGERIA: An average Nigerian has at least 12 free social events to attend a year (weddings, birthdays, house openings, anniversary, naming ceremony, child dedication, memorials, freedom)

CANADA: If you see 3, you've had a blast you be odogwu

NIGERIA: Earn around $20k a year, you are rich. You can buy the entire FourPoints By Sharaton in V.I  😂😂🤣 

CANADA: Earn $60k a year, You still are struggling

NIGERIA: Plenty free monies from uncles, friends, fathers, politicians 

CANADA: You could get a couple rebates from the govt. but it comes with clauses. No other free money from anywhere

NIGERIA: You can dodge and avoid tax confidently and easily

CANADA: Dem no born you well

NIGERIA: Max 2 weeks to see a doctor for a procedure

CANADA: Could take up to 6 months and more

CANADA: You could get sued if it snowed and someone falls on your walk way and gets injured

NIGERIA: Anybody can like to fall inside gutter, na him and him papa business

CANADA: Straight forward, orderly, no razz ness, no back door

NIGERIA: All of us dey craze

If I'm forgetting anything, Please add them below

IconicR:
I don't support any woman denying her husband sex for no genuine reason, she should always allow him have access at all times he wants especially if he's responsible and a good man.

access kwa?

Op I hope your wife is not the married woman that I'm dating now? Describe her for make I see

spencekat:
This is unnecessary

don't mind him. He is a children, that's why

This will favour me and my family