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Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 5:28pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Abeg, anybody that understands English should help me read this and explain how this supports the Jews settling down and flourishing in Egypt, rather than Babylon.

Abeg someone else (3-5 other people) should read Jeremiah 42 and tell us how the disobedient Jews survived the prophecy of doom and settled well in Egypt. Na wa ooo
REPEAT! I already answered this question by showing you that God destroyed ancient Egypt because of the Hebrews' presence in Egypt.

12 And I will take the remnant of Judah, that have set their faces to go into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, and they shall all be consumed, and fall in the land of Egypt; they shall even be consumed by the sword and by the famine: they shall die, from the least even unto the greatest, by the sword and by the famine: and they shall be an execration, and an astonishment, and a curse, and a reproach.

13 For I will punish them that dwell in the land of Egypt, as I have punished Jerusalem, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence:

14 So that none of the remnant of Judah, which are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall escape or remain, that they should return into the land of Judah, to the which they have a desire to return to dwell there: for none shall return but such as shall escape.
Jeremiah 44:12–14


[b]"8 Then came the word of the Lord unto Jeremiah in Tahpanhes, saying,
9 Take great stones in thine hand, and hide them in the clay in the brickkiln, which is at the entry of Pharaoh’s house in Tahpanhes, in the sight of the men of Judah;
10 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will send and take Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will set his throne upon these stones that I have hid; and he shall spread his royal pavilion over them.
11 And when he cometh, he shall smite the land of Egypt, and deliver such as are for death to death; and such as are for captivity to captivity; and such as are for the sword to the sword.
12 And I will kindle a fire in the houses of the gods of Egypt; and he shall burn them, and carry them away captives: and he shall array himself with the land of Egypt, as a shepherd putteth on his garment; and he shall go forth from thence in peace.
13 He shall break also the images of Beth-shemesh, that is in the land of Egypt; and the houses of the gods of the Egyptians shall he burn with fire."[/b]
Jeremiah 43:8–13
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 5:25pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Read Jeremiah 42 v 11-22 again. Did God lie to Jeremiah and allowed the Jews to settle and flourish in Egypt?

Yes or no.

Those words are self explanatory o.
I already answered this point by showing you that God destroyed ancient Egypt because of the Hebrews' presence in Egypt.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 5:18pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
So two things here.

1. Did God lie to Jeremiah in Chapter 42 v 19-22 that He would destroy the Jews that disobeyed Him and settled in Egypt?

2. Is Zephaniah 3 v 10 referring to the Jews, or people and tongues of all nations? Your answer is in Isaiah 66 v 18-21.
As I said previously, USE YOUR HEAD and THINK. When God said he will destroy ancient Egypt and he did, do you think it meant all the Egyptians will die? Read the last chapters in Jeremiah and you will see that not all the Israelites in Egypt were to die either. The vast majority continued in exile in Africa till today.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 5:14pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Jeremiah 42 v 7-12;

7 Ten days later the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah.

8 So he called together Johanan son of Kareah and all the army officers who were with him and all the people from the least to the greatest.

9 He said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, to whom you sent me to present your petition, says:

10 ‘If you stay in this land, I will build you up and not tear you down; I will plant you and not uproot you, for I have relented concerning the disaster I have inflicted on you.

11 Do not be afraid of the king of Babylon, whom you now fear. Do not be afraid of him, declares the Lord, for I am with you and will save you and deliver you from his hands.


12 I will show you compassion so that he will have compassion on you and restore you to your land.’


This is God clearly telling the Jews to stay in Babylon. Verse 13 downwards shows God clearly warning them against going into Egypt.
What exactly is your point? The prophecy in Isaiah about the Hebrews' will relocate to Africa was fulfilled. They became a terror to the Egyptians in the sense that because of their presence in Egypt, God destroyed ancient Egypt. So what exactly are you arguing against now?
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 5:09pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Jeremiah 47 v 11-22;

11 Do not be afraid of the king of Babylon, whom you now fear. Do not be afraid of him, declares the Lord, for I am with you and will save you and deliver you from his hands.

12 I will show you compassion so that he will have compassion on you and restore you to your land.’

13 “However, if you say, ‘We will not stay in this land,’ and so disobey the Lord your God,

14 and if you say, ‘No, we will go and live in Egypt, where we will not see war or hear the trumpet or be hungry for bread,’

15 then hear the word of the Lord, you remnant of Judah. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: ‘If you are determined to go to Egypt and you do go to settle there,

16 then the sword you fear will overtake you there, and the famine you dread will follow you into Egypt, and there you will die.

17 Indeed, all who are determined to go to Egypt to settle there will die by the sword, famine and plague; not one of them will survive or escape the disaster I will bring on them.’

18 This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: ‘As my anger and wrath have been poured out on those who lived in Jerusalem, so will my wrath be poured out on you when you go to Egypt. You will be a curse and an object of horror, a curse and an object of reproach; you will never see this place again.’

19 “Remnant of Judah, the Lord has told you, ‘Do not go to Egypt.’ Be sure of this: I warn you today

20 that you made a fatal mistake when you sent me to the Lord your God and said, ‘Pray to the Lord our God for us; tell us everything he says and we will do it.’

21 I have told you today, but you still have not obeyed the Lord your God in all he sent me to tell you.

22 So now, be sure of this: You will die by the sword, famine and plague in the place where you want to go to settle.”
[/b]
If you don't know, ask. They were all not destroyed because they were all not in one location. God said so himself in the same book of Jeremiah that he will give them comfort while in EXILE in Africa.
Use your head and ask how will the following prophecy apply if they all perished. Cut this DISHONEST attitude of yours.

"From beyond the rivers of Cush My worshipers, My scattered people, will bring Me an offering." Zephaniah 3:10
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 5:03pm On Apr 23, 2021
The following is the Hebrews now in Africa and God's determination to destroy ancient Egypt for harbouring them


12 And I will take the remnant of Judah, that have set their faces to go into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, and they shall all be consumed, and fall in the land of Egypt; they shall even be consumed by the sword and by the famine: they shall die, from the least even unto the greatest, by the sword and by the famine: and they shall be an execration, and an astonishment, and a curse, and a reproach.

13 For I will punish them that dwell in the land of Egypt, as I have punished Jerusalem, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence:

14 So that none of the remnant of Judah, which are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall escape or remain, that they should return into the land of Judah, to the which they have a desire to return to dwell there: for none shall return but such as shall escape.
Jeremiah 44:12–14
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:58pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Isaiah 66 v 18-21

18 “And I, because of what they have planned and done, am about to come and gather the people of all nations and languages, and they will come and see my glory.

19 “I will set a sign among them, and I will send some of those who survive to the nations—to Tarshish, to the Libyans and Lydians (famous as archers), to Tubal and Greece, and to the distant islands that have not heard of my fame or seen my glory. They will proclaim my glory among the nations.

20 And they will bring all your people, from all the nations, to my holy mountain in Jerusalem as an offering to the Lord—on horses, in chariots and wagons, and on mules and camels,” says the Lord. “They will bring them, as the Israelites bring their grain offerings, to the temple of the Lord in ceremonially clean vessels.

21 And I will select some of them also to be priests and Levites,” says the Lord.


Zephaniah 3 v 9-10;

9 “Then I will purify the lips of the peoples,
that all of them may call on the name of the Lord and serve him shoulder to shoulder.

10 From beyond the rivers of Cush
my worshipers, my scattered people
,
will bring me offerings.


Isaiah 66 v 18-21 clarifies Zephaniah 3 v 10, and God wasn’t just referring to the Hebrews as my people.
You asked for PROOF that the Israelites RELOCATED to Africa. I am showing the Verses you have been CLAMOURING for.

Tell me how you understand the following verses, please?

"8 Then came the word of the Lord unto Jeremiah in Tahpanhes, saying,
9 Take great stones in thine hand, and hide them in the clay in the brickkiln, which is at the entry of Pharaoh’s house in Tahpanhes, in the sight of the men of Judah;
10 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will send and take Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will set his throne upon these stones that I have hid; and he shall spread his royal pavilion over them.
11 And when he cometh, he shall smite the land of Egypt, and deliver such as are for death to death; and such as are for captivity to captivity; and such as are for the sword to the sword.
12 And I will kindle a fire in the houses of the gods of Egypt; and he shall burn them, and carry them away captives: and he shall array himself with the land of Egypt, as a shepherd putteth on his garment; and he shall go forth from thence in peace.
13 He shall break also the images of Beth-shemesh, that is in the land of Egypt; and the houses of the gods of the Egyptians shall he burn with fire."

Jeremiah 43:8–13
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:53pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
For a start, the Isaiah 19 you quoted mentioned the Land of Judah will be a terror against Egypt.

Please how does that translate to Israelites fleeing from Babylon to Africa?

Let’s start from there. So you mean to tell us Jews fleeing from the Babylonians eventually terrorised Egypt?

Look at Isaiah 19 closely and get the context right. The Jews would be secured in their land, and they’ll raid Egypt from their land.


Isaiah 66 v 18-21 already explains Zephaniah 3 v 10. The nations involved were Tarshish, Libya, Lydia, Tubal, Greece. It also states God will gather people OF ALL NATIONS AND LANGUAGES to worship Him.

So that makes the whole Israel fled beyond the Nile theory even more laughable...

But ride on...
Tell me! How do you understand the following?

"8 Then came the word of the Lord unto Jeremiah in Tahpanhes, saying,
9 Take great stones in thine hand, and hide them in the clay in the brickkiln, which is at the entry of Pharaoh’s house in Tahpanhes, in the sight of the men of Judah;
10 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will send and take Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will set his throne upon these stones that I have hid; and he shall spread his royal pavilion over them.
11 And when he cometh, he shall smite the land of Egypt, and deliver such as are for death to death; and such as are for captivity to captivity; and such as are for the sword to the sword.
12 And I will kindle a fire in the houses of the gods of Egypt; and he shall burn them, and carry them away captives: and he shall array himself with the land of Egypt, as a shepherd putteth on his garment; and he shall go forth from thence in peace.
13 He shall break also the images of Beth-shemesh, that is in the land of Egypt; and the houses of the gods of the Egyptians shall he burn with fire."

Jeremiah 43:8–13
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:42pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Bros, I’m looking for Israelites in Ancient west Africa. Does Egypt fall in the bracket here? Please look through our posts on this thread. I’ve been specific on ancient west Africa right from time. Not Egypt, Ethiopia, Libya and those North African countries just to be very clear here.

Thanks.
Egypt was later on destroyed by the Babylonians. This was God's punishment on them for harboring the fleeing Israelites. Thus the Hebrew refugees and the Egyptians fled down into sub-Sahara Africa to escape the Babylonian invasion. The people currently living in Egypt are NOT the original Egyptians. The original Egyptians were Negroes.

The following is the decree that God proclaimed on the destruction of Egypt and which was carried by Nebuchadnezzar and his Babylonian hordes.

[b]"8 Then came the word of the Lord unto Jeremiah in Tahpanhes, saying,
9 Take great stones in thine hand, and hide them in the clay in the brickkiln, which is at the entry of Pharaoh’s house in Tahpanhes, in the sight of the men of Judah;
10 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will send and take Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will set his throne upon these stones that I have hid; and he shall spread his royal pavilion over them.
11 And when he cometh, he shall smite the land of Egypt, and deliver such as are for death to death; and such as are for captivity to captivity; and such as are for the sword to the sword.
12 And I will kindle a fire in the houses of the gods of Egypt; and he shall burn them, and carry them away captives: and he shall array himself with the land of Egypt, as a shepherd putteth on his garment; and he shall go forth from thence in peace.
13 He shall break also the images of Beth-shemesh, that is in the land of Egypt; and the houses of the gods of the Egyptians shall he burn with fire."[/b]

Jeremiah 43:8–13

Following the Hebrews RELOCATION in Sub-Sahara Africa. We have the following prophecy about Africa being the new home of the hebrews in exile.

10From beyond the rivers of Cush My worshipers, My scattered people, will bring Me an offering. Zephaniah 3:10
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:27pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Thanks bro, please roll out your scriptural/historical evidences let’s examine.

MrPresident1 is seriously seeking attention. Please encourage him to bring out other threads we’ve discussed in addition to the one I left unfinished with his cohorts there.
I already showed you the prophecy that Isaiah made which said the Israelites will relocate to Africa. I finished by saying that Prophecy was fulfilled because the first translation of the Torah called the Septuagint was carried out by the Israelites themselves while in exile in Egypt, Africa.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:18pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Oya nau,

1st assumption from my perspective is Babylonians/Assyrians chasing Israelites into Africa. Can you back this position of yours with scriptural and verifiable historical accounts? That’s the hole/assumption I’ve seen in the story.

And trust me, you’re not the first I’ve heard this from, so perhaps you might prevail where others have failed. But that depends on the persuasive of the evidences you’ll share.

Thanks.
What you showing me is NOT an assumption. That is a claim I made and I can EASILY support with scriptural EVIDENCE. Judging by what you are showing me, does that mean you don't have any evidence to support your claim that I made assumptions in what I wrote?
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:14pm On Apr 23, 2021
MrPresident1:
okcornel is a dishonest fellow who will never accept anything you say. I just said to point this out to you as you consider whether to continue your banter with him or not.
Thank You for alerting me to who I am dealing with. But for the sake of edification of those who are sincere and want to know the truth, I am duty bound to let them know of these sciptures

The prophet Isaiah prophesied the Israelites will RELOCATE to Africa. The following is what he said.

"17The land of Judah will bring terror to Egypt; whenever Judah is mentioned, Egypt will tremble over what the LORD of Hosts has planned against it. 18In that day five cities in the land of Egypt will speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to the LORD of Hosts. One of them will be called the City of the Sun. 19In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the center of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the LORD near her border.…20It will be a sign and a witness to the LORD of Hosts in the land of Egypt. When they cry out to the LORD because of their oppressors, He will send them a savior and defender to rescue them"
Isaiah 19:18-21

This prophecy was fulfilled. The very first translation of the TORAH called the Septuagint was carried by the ancient Israelites themselves while in exile in Egypt, Africa.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 3:52pm On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Many holes and assumptions in your story which you can’t corroborate with the scriptures.

Please show us where the Assyrians and Babylonians chased the Israelites into Africa, or any Bible account of when the Israelites fled there.

I know the black Hebrew Israelites movement love to twist Zephaniah 3 v 10 to assume things, but they will never read Isaiah 66 v 18-21 which sheds more light on it. Same revelation given by God to different prophets.

Now back to the matter on ground, from the scriptures we know the Assyrian and Babylonian kingdoms ransacked Israel, took captives into exile in their empires. Please show us biblical and verifiable historical accounts of Israelites fleeing into Africa. Thanks.

I’ve studied historical accounts of Yosef Ben Mattityahu (Josephus Flavius) a first century Jewish historian whose work - The Antiquity of the Jews covers every major events on the Israelites history, and I haven’t come across this Usrael fleeing into Subsaharan Africa theory of yours.
You claim I made assumptions and there are many holes in what I wrote. So before I show the scriptures that say the Babylonians chased the Israelites into Africa, can you show me any assumptions I made plus the holes in what I wrote? I need to know I am dealing with someone who is honest to accept EVIDENCE and not someone here to argue unnecessarily despite the evidence and just to waste my time. So show me any assumptions I made plus the holes in what I wrote?
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op):
OkCornel:
So why and how did the Israelites set up synagogues in foreign cities outside of Israel (their original homeland)? See some examples below;

1. Synagogue in Iconium - Acts 14 v 1-2
2. Synagogue in Thessalonica - Acts 17 v 2
3. Synagogue in Corinth - Acts 19 v 1 & 8
4. Synagogue in Pergamos - Revelations 2 v 9
5. Synagogue in Philadelphia - Revelations 3 v 9

So from the above, it’s always been the habit of Israelites to set up synagogues wherever they migrate to and form a community to enable them pray and worship there.

I’ve put up scriptural evidence and you can also corroborate this further with historical evidence.

Now my humble question is this, where are the ruins of the Hebrew Synagogues amongst the ruins of ancient west African kingdoms and empires? I’m awaiting patiently.

Thanks
Many of the Jews you see today are CONVERTS to Judaism. How they worship is different to that of the real Israelites.

Plus, the ancient Israelites went into exile in Africa during the time of the Assyrians and Babylonians. Those that came into Africa were chased there by the Babylonians. In those times, Synagogues did not exist. The Israelites' way of worship then was IDOLATRY, which was why God destroyed the nation in the first place. Those Israelites that escaped into Africa carried along with them their idolatry. Hence the reason idolatry became the main way of worship in sub-Saharan Africa till today.
Synagogues came into existence during the time of the Roman Empire. That is nearly 1000 years AFTER the Israelites relocated to Africa.
In 70 AD, the Romans destroyed what was left of Judea. But this time the survivors fled to Asia and Europe. None came to Africa. These took the ideas of the synagogues with them to Europe. Similar to how those in the time of the Assyrians and the Babylonians took their idolatry to Africa. Thus, you should not expect to see synagogues among the Hebrews in Africa because the synagogue was unheard of in ancient Israel and when the people relocated to Africa.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 4:23am On Apr 23, 2021
OkCornel:
Only if you can show us ruins of Hebrew synagogues amongst the ruins of ancient West African kingdoms and Empires. We can discuss.

Till then, enjoy your fantasy.
You are ignoring the OBVIOUS. When people MIGRATE due to their land being destroyed in a war, they don't carry their civilization along with them. The majority of the time the people rather DECLINE when this happens. This is how civilizations rise and fall. Thus you are NOT going to find what you are asking for on African soil because it wasn't their original Homeland.

What you are asking for is like asking the people of Badagry, who were the original inhabitants of Old Oyo, to show evidence that they used to live in Old Oyo. They can't because when the Empire fell and they fled, they did not carry Old Oyo along. They left it behind.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 11:42am On Apr 19, 2021
OkCornel:
Isaiah 66 v 18-21

18 “And I, because of what they have planned and done, am about to come and gather the people of all nations and languages, and they will come and see my glory.

19 “I will set a sign among them, and I will send some of those who survive to the nations—to Tarshish, to the Libyans and Lydians (famous as archers), to Tubal and Greece, and to the distant islands that have not heard of my fame or seen my glory. They will proclaim my glory among the nations.

20 And they will bring all your people, from all the nations, to my holy mountain in Jerusalem as an offering to the Lord—on horses, in chariots and wagons, and on mules and camels,” says the Lord. “They will bring them, as the Israelites bring their grain offerings, to the temple of the Lord in ceremonially clean vessels.

21 And I will select some of them also to be priests and Levites,” says the Lord.


Isaiah 66 v 18-21 clarifies Zephaniah 3 v 10, and God wasn’t just referring to the Hebrews as my people.
What you saying has no bearing to the point I am making. The point of this discussion is to show the current prophecy that is being fulfilled. It is Isaiah 11 and the TIMELINE of it is laid out in Ezekiel 37 through to 39. What you are focusing on has no bearing and makes no difference to these prophecies so I don't see its relevance to the discussion.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 10:58am On Apr 19, 2021
OkCornel:
Is there a temple in Jerusalem right now in which the abomination of desolation will happen?
Did you read the verses in Ezekiel 37 through 39? If you did, you will have noticed the real Hebrews are currently in EXILE. It is their RESTORATION as a nation that triggers Armageddon. After Armageddon, they RETURN to the promised Land. Not before, but after. Thus those verses show the Jews currently living in the state of Israel are NOT the real Israelites. The awakening that RESTORES the real Israelites as a nation is happening NOW. The Bible verse below says most of the Hebrews in exile are in Africa. As we speak many Africans are awakening to their true identity, which is Hebrew. So the prophecy in Isaiah 11 is happening and is following the TIMELINE in Ezekiel 37 through 39.

"From beyond the rivers of Cush My worshipers, My scattered people, will bring Me an offering." Zephaniah 3:10
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 9:30am On Apr 19, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Flesh and blood do not live in Heaven? When Jesus Christ rose ho to the Heavens, did He not do so as flesh and blood? undecided
undecided
No Jesus did not go to heaven with flesh and blood.
"Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." 1 Corinthians 15:50-52


It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 1 Corinthians 15:44
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 9:11am On Apr 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
All the Troubles happening are they not enough indications?

Did you not know that Tribulation means Trouble-lations (Much Troubles or Increased Troubles) as used in the Bible?

Is it not Always Written Much Troubles Follow the Wicked?
What is happening now is not what is mentioned in Daniel 12. Plus, the prophecies in Isaiah 11 have not yet happened. But it is happening now. Ezekiel 37 through 39 gives the TIMELINE of these events as they are happening now.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 9:07am On Apr 19, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Rapture is invisible? I don't recall Jesus Christ suggesting that a rapture to take place would be invisible. undecided
Flesh and blood do not live in Heaven. Therefore, those going to Heaven do so through their SPIRIT, leaving their Human bodies behind. Thus, the rapture is not something we humans see with our eyes. Isn't that obvious given the fact it is Spirit that goes to heaven?
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 8:25am On Apr 19, 2021
obonujoker:
Ok... I'm sorry.

For the Armageddon to happen, some things must happen and some players must be around.... Isn't this true?? Where and who are the players?
Those things are happening now as we speak. The TIMELINE is clearly laid out in Ezekiel 37 through 39. Please read it.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 8:24am On Apr 19, 2021
OkCornel:
Has the great tribulation happened?
Read Ezekiel 37 through to 39. It gives the TIMELINE to the great Tribulation mentioned in Daniel 12:1. Those things are happening now as we speak.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 8:21am On Apr 19, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
If I recall the verse correctly, Jesus Christ said something about there being some who would not taste death until after they had "seen" the son of man coming in His glory. undecided

Well, if you think carefully about it, some of His disciples, at least 2 we know of whom it is written of, saw vision of Jesus Christ returning in His glory before their deaths - Peter and John. undecided
Yes, you are correct. John was alive when Jesus returned and gave him the Revelation at Mt Patmos. Shortly after that, the Romans destroyed Judea (the world of the Jews) and completely wiped it off the face of the world. Exactly as Jesus had foretold. After that for 2000 years there was no country for the dispersed Jews anywhere in Palestine until 1948 when the new state of Israel was founded.
Also, remember the Rapture is invisible, but Jesus left us the signs of it happening. The destruction of Judea and the vision of John that Jesus gave him revealing future events and the end of the entire world shows Rapture had already happened.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 6:15am On Apr 19, 2021
obonujoker:
You need to learn what God says in the Bible bro...
I showed you what God says in the Bible and you insulted me for doing so. Cut the forked tongued, double talk.
Christianity EtcRe: According To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 12:18am On Apr 19, 2021
obonujoker:
Lol... Another clown... This is what happens when people believe and propagate the pre-tribulation rapture grin
Hmmn, what have we here? Seems like we have a riff-raff on the loose. Listen up, little man, crawl back into your dung before you get hurt. I meant the post for intelligent people to discuss and not for low IQ types like yourself.
Christianity EtcAccording To Scriptures, RAPTURE Already Happened. Next Major Event Is Amageddon by Energy48(op): 10:48pm On Apr 18, 2021
Jesus told his Apostles the Rapture will happen before all of them died out. It has already happened. Thus those who are still in expectation are calling Jesus a liar.

The next major event in the fulfilment of prophecy is the establishment of the KINGDOM of God on Earth. This Kingdom on Earth is what Christ taught us to pray for in the Lord's prayer when we say, "THY KINGDOM COME." How this KINGDOM is achieved is through the RESTORATION of the Hebrews from exile, followed by Armageddon, as explained in Ezekiel 37 through 39.
Christianity EtcRe: The RAPTURE Is The Next MAJOR Event In The Prophetic Timetable by Energy48(m): 8:55pm On Apr 18, 2021
Righteousness2:
I Pity u!
Bro! You are totally lost !
Awake and quit all these mumbojumbo talks that have nothing to do with you
LOL! grin grin I pointed out information in the Bible you are unaware of and your response is you pity me?
Did you even comprehend what I wrote? huh huh What exactly do you pity me for? huh huh Surely, it cannot be for the fact that I know my Bible. Geesh!
Christianity EtcRe: The RAPTURE Is The Next MAJOR Event In The Prophetic Timetable by Energy48(m): 6:02pm On Apr 18, 2021
Righteousness2:
The Signs are Everywhere!
Commotions here and there!
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Prepare to Follow JESUS Home!
You are wrong about Rapture being the NEXT major prophecy to be fulfilled, Sir. The next major Prophecy is being fulfilled now, and it is ongoing. It is the prophecy that speaks of the RESTORATION of the Hebrews from exile. This major event is immediately followed by Armageddon and the ushering in of God's Kingdom on Earth. The information is recorded in the book of Ezekiel 37 through 39. Read it for yourself.

The Israelites are in sub-Sahara Africa and many are awakening to their true identity, which is HEBREW.
Christianity EtcRe: The YORUBA Are The Chosen Of God? Discuss! by Energy48(op): 5:24pm On Apr 18, 2021
Nephilim:
Okay! So, where does the Yoruba clan emanate from in these, and what makes you feel other tribes are not part of the dispersed Hebrews? Tribes like the igbo that has always claimed to be Hebrew, that they even have to adopt Judaism as a mode of worship.?
I did not say other sub-Sahra Africans are not Hebrews. Some of them are already aware of their Hebrew identity. For example, most Igbos will confidently tell you they are Hebrews. So there is no need to mention them.
I only mentioned the Yoruba because the vast majority of them are ignorant of their history, roots and true identity. This is because Bishop Crowther changed their original name to Yoruba. Changing the original name wiped out the Yoruba people's history. This is how and why the Yoruba lost their identity. But when you discover their true name, you will see it translates as Hebrew in English.
Christianity EtcRe: The YORUBA Are The Chosen Of God? Discuss! by Energy48(op): 4:37pm On Apr 18, 2021
Nephilim:
A Kingdom, Yes! But in this Kingdom of God, being a ruling elite is not about being an Hebrew!
How do you understand Revelation 7? Notice the ELITES mentioned are ALL Hebrews.
Christianity EtcRe: The YORUBA Are The Chosen Of God? Discuss! by Energy48(op): 2:50pm On Apr 18, 2021
Nephilim:
God doesn't lie. What I'm saying is whether you are Yoruba or Igbo as long as you have received christ, you're spiritually an Israelites.. We've been made one with Abraham seeds.
You are correct that EVERYONE is saved through Christ. If someone doesn't believe in Christ, they are doomed no matter who they are. Being a Hebrew on its own won't save you. That is a FACT.
Nevertheless, we are talking about a KINGDOM. This means there will be the ruling elites and ordinary citizens. These two classes make up the Kingdom. So you are correct to say both Gentiles and Hebrews will be saved and become one in the Kingdom of God. But the Hebrews are the ruling class in the Kingdom. The non-Hebrews are ordinary citizens of the Kingdom.
Many people talk about Armageddon. But very few understand what triggers it. The Bible explained this in Ezekiel 37 through 39. It is the restoration of the Hebrews from exile that triggers this war. Please read the verses for yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: The YORUBA Are The Chosen Of God? Discuss! by Energy48(op): 2:16pm On Apr 18, 2021
Nephilim:
Stories!
"If anyone is in Christ, he's a new creature, old things are passed away, all things have become new"
"they shall become one fold, one shepherd"
You are WRONG, my friend. Are you suggesting God lied to Moses that his descendants will go into exile, but he will bring them back as his people during the last days? Read Ezekiel 37. The prophecy there is about the RESTORATION of Israel from exile during the last days. The RESTORATION of Israel is the Kingdom Jesus taught his followers to pray for in the Lord's Prayer.

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