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A matured mind takes every judgement as it come.

Everybody is right to his own submission.

Running and exeberating about thereby creating nuisance is a childish behaviour.

Afamed:
Ignore Engineerboat. I have sampled the guy yesterday. He's not just wack but totally empty.
Just few days from now, Atiku case will be thrown out of court for lack of merit and frivolous claims. You can bookmark this thread

Are you now okay.

You will dey alright las las

Afamed:
The problem with both of you. The day Atiku case is thrown out of court for lack of merit and frivolous claims. Democracy will suddenly under threat

I want to believe Dog and barboon will not be soaked in their blood in a matter of week or days

Cajal:
..in fact his witness worked significantly against Atiku

You mean the one ghat say, Buhari lied for saying NA army board is in possession of their certificate.

Or the one that says they graduated year different from what Buhari is claiming.

Why do you hink Olanipekun footdrag in calling more witnesses

tuniski:
I am too evolved beyond your exuberance!

Buhari did not need any certificate but kyari had to personally source for Cambridge statements.

Abi

tuniski:
Hey stop coaching. I am at liberty to support anyone's position at anytime. He took his time to update and those without updates are simply using foul languages as argument just so they may make comments.

In the matter at hand, the written addresses were in response to what happened at the trial with judicial references. Each party responded to one another's grounds why not folks here stick to what is now in the open but, simply insult.

Buhari is already the president and the worst that can happen to atiku/pdp has already happen any ruling that addresses the grievances of the petitioner will be massive even if buhari's victory is affirmed.

As an evolved man, I take most insulting comments to be from younger generations aka youth. Some days in the future, they will become measured in utterance rather than exuberant!

I was expecting them to tell me how Kyari had to travel to personally collect A statement when actually Buhari did not need any certificate.

I was expecting their counter submission on the wrong collation of form ec8 a - e, but hell no.

Those young kids keep exeberating about

garfield1:
Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

But INEC did not need any proof burden bor buhari need prof Burden on why he lied under oath.

Tell them to give you a break to cure your rigmarolling

garfield1:
Did you teach me anything in osun? Am the teacher and will always tutor you.

If atiku presented the above,it means that he has conceded to not being a citizen by birth but now expecting the tribunal to use this outdated provision to rescue him.funny enough,it still doesnt make him a citizen by birth

Check up 15th, 16th, 17th pept proceedings

It will cure this your ignorance.

You have been provided with two valid proceedings and authority at the tribunal on this case.

You can asked your supervisor at BMCO underground hole to get you the video.

You will dey alright las las

Rochasstatue:
Your views are pedestrian and solely fit for comedy.
The court can't fill the blank spaces for you.
In a matter of weeks we will read the ruling of the PEPT and your dance steps will change.
None of Atiku's 63 witnesses offered a coherent unimpeachable testimony in court.
Atiku never called a single witness to attest to his citizenship and did not even mention it in their adopted closing briefs.
Every leg on which they premised their plea was shaky and decrepit.
Anyway you have a right to keep dreaming and continue this unending recourse to vigorous intellectual masturbation.
Atiku can't and won't cum!

Go and check PEPT 16th and 17th July proceedings.

It will cure uour ignorance

focus7:
Op your sentimental opinion does not count, we wait for tribunal judgement.

Thanks you.

Neeeexxxxt

agabusta:
You are the one that is expressing thoughts gathered from a non conscious state. Continue in your foolery, your food go soon done.

You will dey alright las las

garfield1:
Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

Let me teach you small

The Interpretation Act LFN 1999 Cap 192 Section 6 (1) provides:

6. (1) The repeal of an enactment shall not-

(a) revive anything not in force or existing at the when the repeal takes effect;

(b) affect the previous operation of the enactment anything duly done or suffered under the enactment.

(c) affect any right, privilege, obligation or liar accrued or incurred under the enactment;

The relevant clauses are section 6(1) (b) and (c). So the rights granted and privilege given to the folks in Adamawa remains and is preserved.


Take note

"the repeal of an enactment shall not affect any right, privilege, obligation or liability accrued or incurred under the enactment."


Atiku's Nigerian birthright accrued in 1961 (by the Instruments enacted pursuant to the Referendum) and in 1963 when it was 'enacted by reference' in the 1963 Constitution.

"Thus, the repeal of the 1963 Constitution by the 1999 Constitution did not affect his previously accrued or vested Nigerian birthright,"

Again for your information "under the doctrine of 'relation-back', being born in Nigeria means being born in a Nigeria that 'related-back' to include those born before 1960 in territories that later became part of Nigeria through Referendum, same territories having been named in the 1999 Constitution as amongst the States and LGAs that constitute Nigeria."

garfield1:
Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

It really shows that you did not folow the tribunal proceeding.

Sorry BMCO room was underground and you're sealed fr getting the update from the PEPT.

Sorry.

Its a sorry case that Buhari had been lying all the while undsr oath, his cup is now full

garfield1:
Has atiku presented any proof that he's a nigerian by birth

The Presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, has rebuked the All Progressives Congress, APC, describing the allegation that he is a Cameroonian as puerile, face saving, vexatious, absolutely and completely unfounded.

Atiku, in his response to preliminary objection the APC filed to challenge his petition against the declaration of President President Muhammadu Buhari as winner of the February 23 presidential election, maintained that he is a full blooded Nigerian.

He urged the Presidential election petition tribunal sitting in Abuja to ignore what he termed as “extraneous facts, contradictory, diversionary, evasive, speculative and vague assertions”, by both the APC and President Buhari.

Atiku told the tribunal that contrary to APC’s allegation that he is an alien, he said he is a Nigerian by birth and a Fulani by tribe.

He told the tribunal that he has been a Nigerian politician for about 30 years, adding that in 1992, he contested in the Presidential Primaries under the platform of then Social Democratic Party (SDP) alongside the late Chief M.K.O Abiola and Ambassador Baba Gana Kingibe.


He said: ” Contrary to the allegations contained in paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, the Petitioners state that the ” ” ” 1st Petitioner is a citizen of Nigeria by Birth and thus qualified to vote and be voted for and returned in the election to the office of the President of the Federal Republic of

“[b]In further response to paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, Atiku and his party state as follows:

.”The 1st Petitioner was born on 25th November, 1946 in Jada, Adamawa State by Nigerian Parents and he is therefore a citizen of Nigeria by Birth.

“The 1st Petitioner’s father, Garba Atiku Abdulkadir was a Nigerian by Birth who hailed from Wumo in present day Sokoto State while the mother, Aisha Kande was also a Nigerian who hailed from Dutse in present day Jigawa State.

“The parents of the 1st Petitioner are both Fulani, a community/tribe indigenous to Nigeria.

“The birth of the 1st Petitioner in Jada, in present day Adamawa State of Nigeria was occasioned by the movement of his paternal grandfather called Atiku who was an itinerant trader, from Wu.mo in present day Sokoto State to Jada in the company of his friend, Ardo Usman.

“That in Jada, Atiku, the grandfather of the 1st Petitioner gave birth to Garba who in turn gave birth to the 1st Petitioner and named him after his own father Atiku.

“The 1st Petitioner’s mother, Aisha Kande was the grand-daughter of Inuwa Dutse who came to Jada as an itinerant trader too from Dutse in present day Jigawa State.[/b]

“That all averments concerning Germany, British Cameroons, League of Nations and Plebiscite are false and misleading in relation to the 1st Petitioner and therefore completely irrelevant more so that the 1st Petitioner is a Nigerian by birth within the contemplation of the Constitution of the Federal Republic ofNigeria, 1999 (as amended).

“The averments in the aforesaid paragraphs are indeed fabricated, contrived, made in bad faith and designed to embarrass the 1st Petitioner.

“In response to paragraph 7 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, the Petitioners aver that the votes of the 1st Petitioner in the Election of 23rd February, 2019

to the office of the President are not wasted votes, and the 1st Petitioner being a qualified candidate in the said Election indeed secured majority of lawful votes over and above the votes of the 2nd Respondent.

“In further reaction to Paragraph 7 of the 3rd Respondent Reply, the Petitioners hereby plead and contend that at all times material the he Atiku has been a Nigerian by birth and has participated in the following career and political activities and has also received the following awards and honours:

“That he was a civil servant in the Nigerian Customs Service for over 20 years and retired as a Deputy Director.

“That he has been a Nigerian politician for about 30 years and in 1992 he contested in the Presidential Primaries under the platform of then Social Democratic Party (SDP) alongside the late Chief M.K.O Abiola and Ambassador Baba Gana Kingibe.

” That he contested for and won the 1999 Gubernatorial election in Adamawa State under the platform of the 2nd Petitioner.

” That Former President Olusegun Obasanjo and himself contested for and won the 1999 and 2003 Presidential Elections, respectively as President and Vice President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria under the platform of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), the 2nd Petitioner.

” The 1st Petitioner is the recipient of the National Honour of Grand Commander of the Order of the Niger (GCON).

“The 1st Petitioner was the traditional title holder of Turakin Adamawa from 1982 to 2017 when he was elevated to Wazirin Adamawa amongs other avarment to support his claims.

https://www.channelstv.com/2019/04/22/i-am-a-nigerian-atiku-replies-apc/amp/

garfield1:
Buhari is qualified to contest elections

Atiku never alleged forgery and bihari has successfully proved that he's educated up to school cert level

The results were correctly computed and collated.

Atiku clearly failed to prove that hes a nigerian citizen by birth

He failed to reply to apc application that his case will be struck out

He will lose without even the judges hearing the main case.up buhari,down Atiku

Argue with this

ejimatic:
. The PDP prayed that Atiku be declared winner or a rerun on 10 states. No election tribunal can declare or winner .deduct votes .It can only order a rerun. The writer of the above thread gave examples of states elections where results were cancelled before the use of revised electoral laws. Is there any precedent in presidential election?Obasanjo vrs Buhari Awolowo vrs Shagari Fakae vrs Obj Buhari vrs Jonathan all went in favour of respondents.This is not a surprise because non compliance must be proved beyond any reasonable doubt.In the case of Atiku there were contradictions in the testimony of all the witnesses.Even the inec server was not logically proved. All was doctored testimony.The tribunal must accept all evidences but it does not mean they are tenable. In my opinion all of them hold no water.By implication of supreme court judgement on Tuesday if there is no inec server what else again? INEC is not mandated by law to present witnesses .it is an umpire. No witness for INEC in Osun tribunal. This was emphasised and accepted at the appeal court later. A good part 1 law student should know that Atiku case has evidential and technical failures.It is the simplest case so far to be determined in the history of presidential election in Nigeria. It will forever be a mirage for the opposition to win at the presidential election tribunal in Nigeria.

Is lying under an oath an offence

Can you present 3 certificates for the same exam with different names and result computation.

agabusta:
Wole Olanipekun and Fagbemi have a misguided view of how substantial non-compliance is proven??

Continue fooling yourself.

Go back to sleep.

Seem sleep still dey worry you

garfield1:
This is balderdash,rubbish,hogwash.these were not from the form ec8a but from the electronic copy of atiku's server result.none of these copies or samples were shown to the court or demonstrated before the court during the witness testimonies,they were simply dumped on the court.no judge will go through all these hogwash.moreover,atiku and his witnesses have contradicted themselves in several fronts.

Wake up to reality stop fooling about.

Seems you're following the proceeding from your illusioned BMCO mud m-house.

Wake up morning don break

Cc: tuniski, ChristianNorth, deji68, fergie, johnnyessencex BERNIMOORE, Ratello

For now

1. Buhari did ot qualify on false declaration of result under oath.

2. Buhari not having the required certificate

3. Non compliance on the part of inec to EA

4. Wrong computation of Manual form EC8 from Polling unit to national collation

5.....loading

APC/INEC/BUHARI were expecting PDP to come with only the e-collated results from the servers which existence INEC then decided to deny completely by claiming not to even have a server at all.

But PDP came and proved that with their own manual collation, wrong addition gives Atiku victory.


In addition of course PDP brought the server results also

From the foregoing, it is ebident therefore that the failure of INEC to defend the figures they announced from those states by calling their officers who conducted the election, and what PDP has presented, Atiku is having a strong case

All that Atiku was able to proved in those states was that 1,740,850 to be removed from Atiku’s votes in those states, 5,686,781 to be removed from Buhari’s votes.

Then to Zamfara where INEC didn’t release all copies of the results and PDP had to rely on pink copies from its own agents in the field.

After these deduction, PDP leads.

On wrong collation of results

The INEC EC8 forms are the official forms for collation of results at various levels of an election.

In essence the following we're used:

Form EC8A - for Polling Unit
Form EC8B - for ward collation
Form EC8C - for LGA
Form EC8D - for State and
Form EC8E for National collation.


What Atiku/PDP allege and prove is that during the manual collation, figures were added to Buhari/APC votes in those states mentioned, and subtracted from Atiku’s votes.

And these are easily seen with mere observation of the forms from various levels of collation.


That is to say in adding together the votes from the form EC8A for the several PUs in a Ward, INEC officers wrongly and illegally inflated Buhari votes and subtracted Atiku’s own, these were shown for some EC8As, EC8Bs and EC8Cs of 10 states (excluding Zamfara).

For some of those forms, they were not stamped or signed by the Presiding Officer (as required by law), some were obviously manipulated.

So, Atiku is asking for cancellation and deduction of those votes: both for PDP and APC, based on non-compliance.

The maths was presented:

On the burden of proof claimed by Buhari/APC/INEC lawyers,

However Atiku/PDP as the petitioners are to prove their case but established precedence in these cases is that the burden of proof shifts from side to side until one outweighs the other.

In other words: if I alleged that some Nairaland Mod are partial and partisans, I have to prove it.

Even if my proof is shabby documents and shaky testimonies from witnesses but then then the Alleged Mod fails to call his own witnesses to counter mine or present any counter-evidence, my margin of victory is very high.

In this instance: INEC did not call a single witness to debunk any assertion made by PDP/Atiku - even if the documents presented were weak, even if the oral testimonies were shabby, INEC/Buhari/APC did not present solid counters.

And there’s again strong precedence on this as seen from the final address of Atiku.

one of the cases cited is Buhari’s case against Obasanjo’s election in 2003 which was decided on in 2005.

This is another failure from Inec

What Buhari/APC/INEC were expecting was that Atiku would attempt to prove substantial non-compliance across Nigeria, this was their point of arguement from their final addresses confirm this.

What PDP did was to challenge results from where Buhari won massively and then INEC made a mistake.

INEC failed to defend the results it declared from those places, they only tried to probe weaknesses in testimony from PDP witnesses but called not even one person to affirm their own result.

In the final address, Atiku’s legal team calls up a strong authority to affirm this.


The smart legal option in cases where election petitions failed is that the person being challenged usually counter-challenges results from the challenger’s strongholds also or at least defends its own strongholds vigorously.

Neither INEC nor APC did this in this case.

AJASIN Vs Omoboriowo 1983

Substantial non-compliance was proven from Omoboriowo’s Ekiti strongholds, which FEDECO then failed to defend,

Ajasin’s stronghold were left intact which NPN failed to challenge; and Ajasin was declared the winner after the subtractions were made.

OBASANJO VS BUHARI

Buhari’s first contest against Obasanjo irregularities were proven in Ogun, which was then cancelled but not established in other states so Ogun was cancelled but OBJ still won on the balance.

MIMIKO Vs AGAGU.

Funny enough Olanipekun Was Mimiko Lead Counsel

10 LGAs (mainly the Ilaje areas) where Agagu had won were cancelled for irregularities (substantial non-compliance), 7 where Mimiko won were left intact and one other.

FAYEMI VS SEGUN ONI

In declaring Fayemi as Ekiti Governor over Segun Oni who has been declared by INEC, the courts again did not go for substantial non-compliance on the entire Ekiti, Ido-Osi and Efon Alaaye - where PDP had won massively were deducted, Fayemi declared winner after the deductions.

OSUNBO VS OSHIOMOLE

In upturning Osunbor’s election in Edo, Oshiomhole only had to prove substantial non-compliance in PDP strongholds that had returned huge votes for Osunbor - 10 out of 18, votes were deducted and Oshiomhole declared winner on the basis of results that complied with the EA.

OYINLOLA VS AREGBESOLA

In upturning the election of Olagunsoye Oyinlola, the courts cancelled 10 LGAs which were PDP strongholds (Osogbo and Ife areas) and declared Aregbesola winner based on the 20 remaining LGAs where his party had won massively.

Substantial non-compliance wasn’t proven across Osun.