Lukuluku69:


The solution to this world problem lies in the adoption of a Universal Law to treat our issues. That Universal Law can only be found in ISLAM and no other Faith.

The earlier we understand this, the better for us all.

Islam has put forward the Glorious Qur'an. In it, your problems will be solved.

How can this be when all Islam teaches its members is hatred and violence towards non Muslims ?

Likewise if any decided to follow the example of Muhammad ,he will be cruel more than cruelty :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:

When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was distributing something, a man came towards him and bent down on him. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) struck him with a bough and his face was wounded. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said to him: Come and take retaliation. He said: no, I have forgiven, Messenger of Allah!.

Da'if (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4536
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 43
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4521
Abu Dawood

A true religion that would bring peace should teach its followers about peace , love and not violence , Justice, forgiveness etc.

Can you give evidence of these from your Qur'an ?

MaxInDHouse:
Prayer is the first key power given to Christians but what should we pray for?
Well before you pray you have to first consider God's will because if your prayer is not in accord with God's will then such prayers are in vain! 1John 5:14
Have you heard of the Zimbabwean prayer warrior?
Well he's on his sick bed now for prayers having nothing to do with God's will!
So God's will is for this world's governments to be wiped out and you now want to pray to the same God to assist the same governments He is planning to destroy! Daniel 2:44

Is praying for the peace of your nation contrary to God's will ?

budaatum:


You really are funny to be able to continue to miss the fact that if I reconcile your own character with verses from the Bible the answer would be a very resounding no. Or would you like to argue that in this thread of your's you have shown any love whatsoever for your neighbours whom you are even trying very hard to describe as your enemies?

The only thing you have managed to show by this thread is that one must never ever judge a religion by those who claim it as their own religion because Christ has even taught us that some really just are idol worshippers who say "Lord Lord" but do not the Lord's will do.

Oh Lord God the Heavenly Father open our eyes please in Jesus Mighty Name. Amen.

How is speaking the truth evil? It is love to speak the truth as it is . Not half truth or half falsehood.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted!

The whole world's Government is lying in the hands of Satan {1John 5:19} so what do you think prayers can do when Satan is the overall ruler under whom all human governments are operating?
Do you think Jesus doesn't love his people when he declined the offer to participate in the governance of his people Israel? John 6:15
Well Jesus knew very well that there is no prayer or effort contributed towards human government that can yield positivity because the overall ruler of this system of things is Satan the Devil! John 14:30 compare to Luke 4:6
May you have PEACE!

What are you saying ?
Because Satan is controlling this world , there is no need for prayers ?

Why did Jesus asked us to pray without ceasing :

Luke 18:1 KJV
And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

Matthew 21:22 KJV
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

Why did the apostles pray since they should know better ?
Acts 6:4 KJV
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

budaatum:


But that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:13 ESV

But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me. Luke 19:27 ESV

The ignorant person would say to you "the Bible says the same thing", and ignorantly claim "It is the above verses that dictates what a Bible reader should do, so what love can a Bible reader have for others when even God killed and told people to kill", but I am absolutely certain you will explain that one must not read only one verse or one will become malnourished and ignorant. Or can you not see that said in the below verse from the Quran?

But all that would be beside the point for those who read in a book about the forest in their own eyes, I would have thought. Or is it that we have only read a few verses in our Bibles too?

You should have reconciled the verses of the Qur'an with the characters of the followers of the Qur'an.
Are they doing according to the Quran verse I quoted or not ?
The answers is yes. This is evident from their books and evident from happenings around the world from time immemorial , and not limited to one nation
Ex September 11 2001 atteck on world trade centre that claimed more than 3000 lives of innocent people in the USA. The Book Haram atrocities in Nigeria etc.

What about Judaism and Christianity . Are they going about killing according to the Bible passages you quoted ? No .
Why not ?
The answer is because second Chronicles 15:13 was for the Israelites themselves and not for foreigners. It is a death penalty on the Jews who failed to worship the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob in Israel.
It is not a command to kill people in other countries who are not worshiping their God.

That of Luke 19:27 is talking about the judgment of God on all the idol worshippers ,that ever lived , on the judgment day.
Christians don't go about killing people for Jesus.

It is not enough to quote a Bible verse . What is necessary is to know or understand what the verse is saying in context.

budaatum:


“Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good – to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess.”
The Holy Qur’an, al-Nisaa 4:36

10 Quranic Verses and Hadith on How to Treat Your Neighbor

Some must learn not to bear false witness!

It is the same Qur'an that says :

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 29)

What love do Muslims have for their neighbours?
It is the above sura abive that dictates what Muslims do to non Muslims .
Did their prophet show love in his lifetime ?

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was distributing something, a man came towards him and bent down on him. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) struck him with a bough and his face was wounded. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said to him: Come and take retaliation. He said: no, I have forgiven, Messenger of Allah!.
Sunan Abi Dawud 4536
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 43
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4521
Abu Dawood

haddeylium:
Good evening!
Been awhile.
I've been away. Hope you've found answers to my question?


Hmnnn...
Here, Christains are told to respect human government.
Jehovah did not originate man’s governmental authorities, but they exist by his permission.
Jesus himself called Satan 'the ruler of this world,” and the apostle Paul labeled him “the god of this system of things”? (John 12:31; 16:11; 2 Corinthians 4:4)


You dig?
Have you considered this part of the scriptures before?
Daniel 2:44
In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms(Human government), and it alone will stand forever,
God's government under Christ rulership will be at war with the kingdoms of the God's kingdom will be victorious. It will not co-exist with human government. it will be the only government. He put an end to this mess and create a lasting and enduring PEACE!
These are what we the evidence of his rulership on Earth
©Free mankind from all threat of war(Ps. 46:8, 9)
©Rid the earth of corrupt rulers and oppression(Ps. 110:5
©Remove sickness and disabilities of all kinds(Luke 7:22; 9:11)
©Guarantee security, freedom from danger to one’s person or property(Mic. 4:4
Just few of them. Genuine Christains are loyal to this God's kingdom and preaching about it as mankind's only hope. It's a self-deception if you think mankind's can bring Peace!
Which side do you want to be?
Would invest in a business that is doomed to collapse?



in the case of war, it is noted that all religions bar one, actively supported their nation. So you had Priests blessing soldiers saying, “Go and fight, God is on your side!” Catholic against Catholic, Protestant against Protestant, Brother against Brother each believing they were blessed by God
Christains killing Christains under Humans political government. What should that tell you?

Jehovah's witnesses has vowed never raise arms and kill people following Jesus' example. Regardless of the race, color, nationality, economic class, they're United globally throwing their support for God's kingdom under Christ rulership!

A true Christian will not join the army to start with and a true pastor will not bless his followers b4 or after going to the battlefield .
This is not limited to JW organization only.

It is for such reasons we need the participation of Christians at the helm of affairs to direct the decisions that will align with the commandments of God.

The role of a pastor and true Christian is to pray to avert evil .

How often do you pray for your country even If you don't think you should join the governance ?

AntiChristian:


Unrepentant liar!

You are possessed by the spirit of Antichrist ,which is why you are full of mischiefs and can never repent . You better pray like your prophet against the spirit thus :

Hadith

Abu Huraira reported:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When any one of you completes the last tashahhud. he should seek refuge with Allah from four (trials). I.e. from the torment of Hell, from the torment of grave, from the trial of life and death, and from the mischief of Masih at-Dajjal (Antichrist). This hadith has been narrated by al-Auza'i with the same chain of transmitters but with these words:" When any one of you completes the tashahhud" and he made no mention of the words" the last".

Sahih Muslim 588 b
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 164
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1219  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

DeusXmachina:

So what about Jesus's existence

Is this a matter of faith, or a fable?

Jesus truly existed , so his account is not fable but of faith.

Let me show you another fable from Islam :

Hadith

Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'The (people of) Bani Israel used to take bath naked (all together) looking at each other. The Prophet (ﷺ) Moses used to take a bath alone. They said, 'By Allah! Nothing prevents Moses from taking a bath with us except that he has a scrotal hernia.' So once Moses went out to take a bath and put his clothes over a stone and then that stone ran away with his clothes. Moses followed that stone saying, "My clothes, O stone! My clothes, O stone! till the people of Bani Israel saw him and said, 'By Allah, Moses has got no defect in his body. Moses took his clothes and began to beat the stone." Abu Huraira added, "By Allah! There are still six or seven marks present on the stone from that excessive beating."

Sahih al-Bukhari 278
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 30
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 277  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

I hope you now get my point. Islam is about faith but there are stories incorporated into their books which are for jokes only and not of reality. They are like the Tortoise and dog stories.

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AntiChristian:


I have prayed for you to be cured! My God is Allah, the Lord of all that exists. He is the creator of Jesus and everything.
How can God reveal Himself to humans? The way you guys treat your God ehn! As if He's just one genie that can just do anything unbefiting!

You are an idol worshiper so your prayer is an abomination to God .I pity you because you are in a sorry state and you don't know you are sick for putting your eternity in the hands of a bewitched man like Muhammad who didn't know what he was doing.

At times you hear insane people calling sane people mad man or mad woman not knowing they are the real mad people. This is exactly your case for saying you prayed for someone when you are the one in need of serious prayers and deliverance.
For example , how can you read this from your books and still continue with such prophet and his message :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body.

Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed.

Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 67
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 67
English translation : Book 1, Hadith 67
Abu Dawood

I am 100% sure you will regret believing these nonsense religion unless you repent.

Secondly , to say God can't appear to you Muslims is a good reason to believe that your God is a fake.

Our God can appear to us in visions, revelations and by signs and wobders like that of Moses .

But your Allah is fake god who lives in the the house ( kabah) built by idolaters for him .

sagenaija:
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Others are reading these posts. So, if I mention you in relation to your post you may disregard it but others will still benefit from reading it.

I have repeatedly said that Islam speaks from both sides of the mouth.
That ALONE should be a red flag for anyone about Islam.

Now on the creation of Adam.
"Be" suggests a declaration that is expected to bring about a result.

But these are what we see the Koran state:
Truly, the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as Adam's likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, 'Be,' and he was. Q. 3:59
Here we see a two-step process in the creation of Adam - creation from the dust and then a declaration of 'Be'.

And God said, to the Angels:

“And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘I am going to create a human (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud.  So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him.” (Quran 38:71-72)
Here we also see a two-step process BUT instead of the statement 'Be' we see that it claimed that Allah 'breathed into him soul' which Allah had created.

From these two portions it is clear that Allah did not simply say 'Be' for Adam to come into existence. He first formed him out of clay or dust and then took a second step which in one portion is a declaration of 'Be' and in the other portion a breathing into Adam of a soul.

We immediately see a noticeable difference in these two accounts of Adam's creation.

So when the Koran says:
Truly, the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as Adam's likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him, 'Be,' and he was. S. 3:59

How should we understand it? Do we have to run to 'Allah knows best' in face of the glaring inconsistencies?

Adam was DIRECTLY created from the dust. The Koran states that Allah directly implanted Jesus into Mary's womb. A question Moslems should ponder on is this: why was a virgin birth necessary for the conception of Jesus, seeing that God's law of reproduction had already been set in motion?
Unless there was something special and unique about Jesus, a virgin birth wasn't required. Or is Islam telling us that its Allah does things for no clear reasons?
However, Christianity has the answer to that - Jesus needed to be born UNTAINTED by Adam's sin nature. That way he qualifies to be the atoning sacrifice for mankind.

So, Adam’s creation is NOT LIKE Jesus’ birth from a virgin. Besides, Allah did not just form Adam by saying 'Be'. He first created him from dust and then EITHER said 'Be' or breathed into him - there's no clarity in the Koran as to which is which.

Every good scholar of Islam will agree that Jesus did not commit any of the sins which the rest of the children of Adam commit. Maybe Antichristian knows more than them.

The Koran never stated that Mohamed was the greatest prophet ever sent. Instead, when God talks of a prophet being greater than others, the name He mentions is that of Jesus.

John being 'pure from sins' (plural) is different from Jesus being sinless and holy at conception. Jesus' body was FREE OF SIN from conception. No other human being is - not even John. If you want to argue with the Koran on this go ahead.

You said:

Is this Allah's assessment or man's?

On the title MESSIAH
Antichristian, even if it is a title it has meaning.
Words have meanings. The Koran NEVER refers to ANY OTHER Prophet as being the Messiah. (But again, maybe that doesn't matter to you). Also, when you use the definite article 'THE' you mean a particular person or thing; not just any random one. That definite article is used for Jesus throughout the Koran. It was not Islam that first referred to Jesus as the Messiah. Therefore Islam cannot REDEFINE it. In fact, by describing Jesus as THE MESSIAH, (not a Messiah) the Koran is actually stating that it does not apply to anyone else.

The Jews to whom Islam and Moslems claim Jesus was sent had a meaning for it. What did the Jews THROUGH their Scripture understand the Messiah to be? The Jews understood the Messiah to be the SPECIAL ONE who would speak and act in the power and authority of God and would also be called in the names of God.

If what you stated about Islam's understanding of the Messiah in your post is right, it means that Islam in its characteristics way has chosen to trivialize a title that is UNIQUE; reducing its meaning to mere physical attributes and issues and disregarding the spiritual meaning and truth of that title. Great Moslem scholars have admitted that this was not an original Arabic word. So, where did islamweb website get its definitions from? By creating its own meaning of the word?

Unless Islam copied and pasted from the Bible without care, that is when these arguments you are bringing up will work.

'THE MESSIAH', as Jesus was referred to means a PARTICULAR one, a specific one. Jesus Christ is the ONLY ONE referred to in this way. This 'title' expresses the UNIQUENESS and GREATNESS of his anointing and position in relation to EVERY OTHER person. HE IS THE SPECIALLY CHOSEN ONE OF GOD who came to do a unique work. He satisfied God with his work and qualified to be the mediator between God and man and ultimately THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH at the end of time.

How does Islam attribute this special title to Jesus Christ yet turn around to water down what the title stands for and then reduce him to just any other prophet? It's only in Islam that SOMETHING can mean NOTHING.

I hope any thoughtful Muslim would appreciate what you have written up there as sincerely written not out of bitterness against the Muslims but out of love to save them from the deceit of the devil called Islam.

You are blessed , in Jesus' name.

haddeylium:

What do you mean by a different assignment?

1 John 2:6- the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He(Jesus) walked.

Corinthians 11:1-Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.


Good question!
The present ruler of this world is by Satan's Authority.
Rev 13: 2- And the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority.
The Dragon is the Satan
The beast is Nation rulers

Compare with
Luke 4:6
Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

You are wrong.

Romans 13:1-2 KJV
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

You are expected to play your role as a Christian wherever you find yourself. You must contribute your portion to better this life.

Jesus came to take away the control of the world from the hand of Satan. This was why Satan tried to tempt him.

This world is doomed for destruction but the assignment of Jesus is to save as many souls as possible.

Satan is ruling or directing the affairs of this world through human agents who are loyal to him. But the will of God is for Christians to take their rightful position as rulers so as to direct the affairs of this world in way that will hinder Satan from harvesting more souls for destructions.

budaatum:
The best religion is the religion followed by those who resist the temptation of the sin of thank you Lord that I am not like that JW, or Muslim or atheist or whoever believes differently to oneself over there, because one just loves the neighbours regardless of their beliefs, and one resists promoting a false narative like Muslims are terrorists because one knows their Muslim neighbour has never ever terrorised them.

The scripture you quoted is from the Bible which belongs to the Christians .
Do you also agree with me that following God's written down laws will bring lasting solutions to this earthly problems?

AntiChristian:


Jesus is god himself? So who is a god?

The God I worship is far above becoming a man. I mean Jesus that passed through the womb, birth canal, feed on breast milk, was circumcised, eat, slept, wept, was asked question which he didn't know and then later killed by death and humans!

May you be cured!

The best thing for you to do is to pray that God , don't say Allah , your Creator should reveal Himself to you , sincerely from your heart .
This makes sense than to keep on arguing over why God came as a human being to save humanity from eternal damnation.

haddeylium:

Nice observation there
But know that Jehovah’s Witnesses are following the example of Jesus and his Apostles in remaining neutral in politics.
Jesus refused one of the highest positions in any government. Jehovah’s Witnesses follow this pattern:

“John 6:15, “Then Jesus, knowing that they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again to the mountain all alone” compare with (2 Cor 5:20)




This is where you missed it.
The Bible has made it clear that
The Evil One controls the whole world.”—1 John 5:19.
Satan is the present world ruler sir . That's why the world is mess right now.
God is going to bring Satan’s control over mankind to an end under Christ rulership(Hebrews 2:14).
For now, we're loyal to that God's kingdom only and we're preaching the Goodnews

You are not Jesus and your assignments are different from that of Jesus.

My question is , who chose the rulers of this world ? God or Satan

Sheunma:
so why doesn't Judaism qualify as true religion?

You mean Islam is more violent than Judaism?

1)
Judaism is not a permanent religion meant to bring an everlasting solutions for the world.
It was meant to last when the Messiah comes.
You also can testify to it that the Israelites are not interested in spreading Judaism to other countries . They are waiting for the coming of the Messiah till tomorrow who , unfortunate to them , came 2000 years ago.
And when the Messiah , Jesus Christ , came he gave the commandments of love and peace with the instruction to his disciples to spread the good news around the world

2)
Judaism is not a violent religion when compared with Islam.

The wars and killings carried out by the Israelites in the old testament was just for land acquisitions which ended after they acquired the land , according to God's commandments.

But that of Islam is for religious purpose without end and still affecting the peace of the world till tomorrow. It is an open ended religious warfare.

MaxInDHouse:


You said "Hellfire" not hell (grave) because i believe that at death all people goes to hell (grave) not Hellfire!

Hell and hell fire are the same. The punishment of hell is fire combined with other various punishments.

The contention is not about hell fire or hell . It is about whether there is a place of eternal punishment call hell or not.
Which is why I would like to ask you this :

Can you replace '' hell '' with the word ''grave'' in the scripture below and it will make sense to you ?

Proverbs 15:24 KJV
The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

If you were to change it to grave , does it mean by being conscious of heaven someone can avoid going to the grave ? No , because everyone will be buried in the grave like Abraham who was righteous but still got to the grave.

MaxInDHouse:

How do we contribute?

Satan is the overall ruler of the world that's why the world is in this mess, that's why Jesus asked us to continue praying for God's Kingdom to come! Matthew 6:9-10

JW can contribute politically by voting for their members whose agenda would be to promote laws that would be aligned with the words of God.

Satan is ruling the affairs of this world through humans who have no regards for the commandments of God.
It would have been different if devoted children of God contributed their quotas.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're sure the idea originates with God's people, please quote a verse in the Old Testament where HellFire is mentioned!
Simply because the Catholics have infused the idea of Hellfire into people's brains through their killings here and there in the name of religion, you now feel it's real shey?

Proverbs 15:24 KJV
The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Sheunma:
ISLAM

The religion of Allah and his favorite prophet, Mohammed, is the true religion.

Quick question, isn't the God of Judaism and Christianity one and the same?

It is the same God.

Islam can't be the answer since it is a violent religion and does not teach its followers about love for their neighbours .

haddeylium:


I like your straight to point answer.

In Summary, True religion which is a drive for Peace takes no side in political conflict,(John 18:36)will never raise arm to kill people(Matthews 26:51, 52 and racism can't be found in this settings. (Acts 10:34, 35; James 3:17)

If everyone is practicing this, won't the world be peaceful?
In my opinion, my research and studies present that True religion, as practiced by Jehovah’s Witnesses, is already a force for peace.

If you know of any organization with this fest, please quote me

JW organization has it as their belief that their members should not have anything to do with politics , which makes them also part of the contributors to the problems of this world.

Secondly , the countries of this world are running the affairs of their countries by constitutions based on human ideologies leaving out God's laws and commandments.
This is why the world is in a mess right now.

MaxInDHouse:
What assured you that HellFire is scriptural?
Don't forget that the Bible wasn't written in the language you're reading today!
So instead of capitalizing on what has been translated into another language why not meditate on the adherents of each Religion? Matthew 7:16-18

Language is not a barrier . The word 'hell' is not strange to any tribe in this world. Everyone knows it is about punishment of fire after death .

It will be very very unwise for someone to leave the Bible and follow religion .
For example there are very very good people who are idol worshipers . Wouldn't it be foolish to follow them because they are peaceful people ?

haddeylium:


Hmnnn....
Almost all religious organization are devoted to the promotion of peace and harmony in the world.
But, they're still unable to fix this problem.
Politics
War
Racism

Aren't those the Major problem we should find solution to?

Politics shouldn't be a problem where there is love and fear of God.

There wouldn't be wars where there is fear if God and love . Why should a nation rise up against another where there is honesty and love ?

In Christianity there is no Racism as long as you follow the teachings of the Bible.
Galatians 3:28 KJV
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:

Because Jesus' mentioned tares and also wheat, he said the tares will be gathered in bundles and the wheat also to be gathered into one barn.
So if you believe there are tares it's also possible to have the wheat.
I'm not interested in the tares that will be burnt, my own target is the wheat and how to RECOGNIZE them. If you don't know them then JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES must be the wheat or do you know a better performing group that could be liken to Jesus' wheat?

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

How can Jehovah witness members be wheat when you don't believe the scripture you quoted . Do you people believe in hell fire ?

haddeylium:



What exactly do you want the true religion to bring solutions to?

Solution for peace

MaxInDHouse:
Well the truth is it supposed to be Christianity but Jesus said something in one of his illustrations:


24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among, the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 (1161) He said unto them, An (444) enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?,
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Matthew 13:24-30

Verse 25 says an enemy (Satan) came to plant evil seeds inside Christianity and the master of the farm (Jesus) said to his angels "allow them grow together"
Undoubtedly such setting will never yield positivity most especially when the evil seeds sown is allowed to grow with the good seed.
That's why God said in the Bible book of Isaiah 65:15 that an evil genius will corrupt the good name of His people but He (God) will later call out His people from those devoted to destruction and give them another group name!
So even though Christianity is the religion that has the solution there is just one group out of all those groups claiming Christians!

How are sure that JW organization is not part of the tares sowed by the devil which shall be burnt on the day of judgement ?

Jesuschristus:
A christian fighting Muslims for touching a stone they believe is ordinary stone that cannot in itself benefit or cause harm, but same Christian is cool with those who made fake image of Jesus and oMary,then BOW to it in prayer

Point of correction , I am not fighting any Muslim for worshiping a stone neither am I cool with the Christians that make make images of anything and bow to them .
Both are idol worshippers .

My concern is out of love abd not hatred.

Since am sure the end of all Muslims is hell , why should I not be bothered ?

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free , if you allow it to .