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mhmsadyq:
Then pass your judgement on Allah and lets see how it goes.

How does this answer my questions ?

It is a big shame that you can't defend your Quran and Allah .

Sheunma:
Bros, you funny die! This isn't about me or what I believe. It's about what Muslims and christians believe concerning their religion.

Muslims believe the story of Solomon in the Quran without a shade of doubt no matter how absurd or ridiculous it sounds to you. To them the words of Allah is always true.

Conversely, Muslims believe the story of a God dieing on a cross, killed by his creations for redemption of their sins, to be ridiculous and therefore unbelievable because Allah never told them such thing happened. But the story of jesus' death is at the very core of the christian faith.

I'm sure if the story you found to be ridiculous in the Quran happened to be in the bible, your attitude to it would be completely different. So without so much fine point to it, the ridiculousness or otherwise of a religious story is dependent on the side of the divide from which it is being examined.

I don't believe that Muhammad is a true prophet of God . Because I don't believe he is a prophet does not make his account a fable or unreal story.

The Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the cross and we Christians believe he died on the cross. Did Jesus exist ? Yes . Was he crucified on the cross ? Yes . Because the Muslims do not believe he was crucified is a common thing in any historical accounts of past events. But they are never called fables. You can only say it is true or false but not fable.

If it such were to be in the Bible , I WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER BELIEVE IT because it is senseless even to a 5 year old.

Like I asked you earlier , how can you believe such ?

mhmsadyq:
Let me show you what fable actually means from the Bible:

But Jehoash king of Israel replied to Amaziah king of Judah: “A thistle in Lebanon sent a message to a cedar in Lebanon, ‘Give your daughter to my son in marriage.’ Then a wild beast in Lebanon came along and trampled the thistle underfoot. You have indeed defeated Edom and now you are arrogant. Glory in your victory, but stay at home! Why ask for trouble and cause your own downfall and that of Judah also?” (2 Kings 14:9-10; parallel account 2 Chronicles 25:18-19)


When Jotham was told about this, he climbed up on the top of Mount Gerizim and shouted to them, “Listen to me, citizens of Shechem, so that God may listen to you. One day the trees went out to anoint a king for themselves. They said to the olive tree, ‘Be our king.’

“But the olive tree answered, ‘Should I give up my oil, by which both gods and humans are honored, to hold sway over the trees?’
“Next, the trees said to the fig tree, ‘Come and be our king.’
“But the fig tree replied, ‘Should I give up my fruit, so good and sweet, to hold sway over the trees?’
“Then the trees said to the vine, ‘Come and be our king.’
“But the vine answered, ‘Should I give up my wine, which cheers both gods and humans, to hold sway over the trees?’
“Finally all the trees said to the thornbush, ‘Come and be our king.’
“The thornbush said to the trees, ‘If you really want to anoint me king over you, come and take refuge in my shade; but if not, then let fire come out of the thornbush and consume the cedars of Lebanon!’
“Have you acted honorably and in good faith by making Abimelek king? Have you been fair to Jerub-Baal and his family? Have you treated him as he deserves? Remember that my father fought for you and risked his life to rescue you from the hand of Midian. But today you have revolted against my father’s family. You have murdered his seventy sons on a single stone and have made Abimelek, the son of his female slave, king over the citizens of Shechem because he is related to you. So have you acted honorably and in good faith toward Jerub-Baal and his family today? If you have, may Abimelek be your joy, and may you be his, too! But if you have not, let fire come out from Abimelek and consume you, the citizens of Shechem and Beth Millo, and let fire come out from you, the citizens of Shechem and Beth Millo, and consume Abimelek!” (Judges 9:7-20)

There are more from where these came from.

Yes these are fables used as parables .No one is disputing that . They are used as idioms.

That of Solomon is not only a fable but unreal, unreasonable ,senseless and falsified account which never happened.

mhmsadyq:
Then why is the Qur'an account difficult for you to believe?

"Allah knows best" whether it irritates you.

Why do you Trinitarians speak as if Allah is on trlal?
You cannot arm twist me to explain Allah to you beyond what Allah has said about himself or made known about himself.

Allah has given His account of the death of Sulayman and that is what it is. You either believe or you leave it.
Allah owes you no explanations.
[5:101] Al-Māidah-الْمَآئِدَة
"یٰۤاَیُّہَا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا لَا تَسۡـَٔلُوۡا عَنۡ اَشۡیَآءَ اِنۡ تُبۡدَ لَکُمۡ تَسُؤۡکُمۡ ۚ وَ اِنۡ تَسۡـَٔلُوۡا عَنۡہَا حِیۡنَ یُنَزَّلُ الۡقُرۡاٰنُ تُبۡدَ لَکُمۡ ؕ عَفَا اللّٰہُ عَنۡہَا ؕ وَ اللّٰہُ غَفُوۡرٌ حَلِیۡمٌ ﴿۱۰۱﴾

O believers! Do not ask about things (on which the Qur’an is quiet,) for if they are disclosed to you, they may put you in strain (and you will be repelled by them). But if you enquire about them whilst the Qur’an is being sent down, they will be disclosed to you (i.e., fixated through revealing the commandments, but this will put an end to your choice of discretion, binding you to only one command). Allah has (so far) overlooked (these matters and questions), and Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Forbearing.

[5:102] Al-Māidah-الْمَآئِدَة
"قَدۡ سَاَلَہَا قَوۡمٌ مِّنۡ قَبۡلِکُمۡ ثُمَّ اَصۡبَحُوۡا بِہَا کٰفِرِیۡنَ ﴿۱۰۲﴾

No doubt, a people before you asked about similar things, but (when they were disclosed to them) they denied them.

Allah is on trial , truly speaking , for many reasons like :

How did he become the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob suddenly when Muhammad came ?

How come the ways he is worshipped are so different from the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob ?

How come he could perform miracles with the Israelites but could not with the Arabs ?

Why are their commandments and laws contradictory ?

Can you give any reasonable answers to these questions ?

Sheunma:
I see. You should know that what's fable to you is faith to someone else.
To Muslims, the Quran is word of Allah in its entirety and whatever you read therein is eternal truth regardless of your feelings about it. Same way you accept the divinity of Jesus without question, Muslims accepts the words of Allah without question as well.

So you see, when it comes to religion, there's a thin line between fables and faith because what's fable to you in Christianity is faith to Muslims in Islam and vice versa.

That is your own false opinion.

A fable is a fable and cannot become a reality.

Faith is about religion and fable is an untrue story. That is why it is a fable.
For example, Muhammad's existence is not a fable because he actually lived. How he conquered Mecca and his biography are not considered as fables because those were true events.

Like the subject story of this thread , there is no way you look at it that will make it a true story .
You think about it , do you believe this to be a true story ?
If yes , how ?

Sheunma:
my broda, u sef notice am. Christians seem to find the op Quran story unbelievable but they are completely at ease with the bible story that a god, who supposedly created the universe, came to earth via a virgin birth, killed by his creations for 3 days, just so he could erase the sin supposedly committed by same creations. You can't make these stuff up!

There is a difference between a fable and faith.
Don't mix them together.

Jesus actually came to the world and died . But to believe his divinity or not is about faith and a personal convictions.

To me , it is the truth and I can testify that he is God and not human .

The case of this Solomon's death for a whole year without his subjects noticing is senseless and ridiculous . Unless they want to claim he was alone in the palace for that whole year without visitations from his wives , children and relatives etc.

Lukgaf:
Yes, we believe this is one of the simplest thing Allah can do. Is your breathing in and out not even complex than this you just narrated. As for the buda'ah, explicit commentary below"

"Sunan Abi Dawud 67
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:

I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body.

Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed."

https://sunnah.com/abudawud:67

You didn't answer my questions . How come people did not notice a whole King's death for a whole year ?

If it did happened , why did the Bible nor any historical books of the nation of Israel record it?
Lastly , what miracle is there in keeping the dead dead for a year?

These are the questions you need to answer , for us to believe Allah is saying the truth .

Lukgaf:
That's very possible! On the account you quoted from ibn Kathiir, yes, no one was aware of his death for that period. What is special in this? Do you know Ashabul khaf spent over 300 years sleeping too?

Why did their entire generation fail to locate them when they were indeed looking for them?

That's one of the power of Allah. As a Muslim, we believe in the word of Allah Subhanahu wa taa'la(Quran).

Cf;https://www.islamiclandmarks.com/palestine-masjid-al-aqsa/spot-where-prophet-sulaiman-died

You have been bewitched for believing that someone could die for a year without being noticed by thousands of people around him trying to communicate with him on a daily basis

He was standing in a spot without talking , moving , eating , sleeping , having his birth , not urinating etc for a whole year without being noticed ?

Since you can believe this , it means you can drink from the well of buda'ah .

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
The people asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): Can we perform ablution out of the well of Buda'ah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 66
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 66
English translation : Book 1, Hadith 66
Abu Dawood

olabodejinad:
I am a Muslim myself and even though I do not fully agree with some things in christianity, can go ahead and marry a Christian. On the issue of violence against Christian, it is just a group of influential leaders wanting to further their own selfish agenda

The influential group leaders who carryout violence against the Christians are doing so according to the Qur'an and the hadiths . They are the true Muslims .

Hadith

Ibn 'Aun reported:
I wrote to Nafi' inquiring from him whether it was necessary to extend (to the disbelievers) an invitation to accept (Islam) before meeting them in fight. He wrote (in reply) to me that it was necessary in the early days of Islam. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Nafi' said that this tradition was related to him by Abdullah b. Umar who (himself) was among the raiding troops.

Sahih Muslim 1730 a
In-book : Book 32, Hadith 1
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 19, Hadith 4292  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

bingbagbo:
It is The Father who sends The Holy Spirit, see:

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

It is Jesus who sends The Holy Spirit:

Jesus said:

But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you (John 16:7).

The Father , The Son and The Holy Spirit are One; It is the Lord Jesus Christ.

The number of times Jesus said he has a Father in heaven that sent him is more than 30 times compared to this one time you quoted.
Why didn't that make you to conclude that Jesus Christ is different from God the Father ?

ChristisGod:
John 6:44-45

[44]No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

[45]It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.

It means Jesus has a Father who sent him and that Jesus himself is God.

AntiChristian:
Where is the copying of Christians mentioned here?
When will you stop telling lies and twisting?

Did the Christians not imitate the Jews in their way of worship? Jesus bowed down in worship in Matt 26:39. Why didn't he just dance, sing, clap and then speak English tongues?

Moreover quoting one part that supports your view why leaving other parts that negates your view is hypocrisy!

We do not need to imitate Jews or Christians!

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”
[al-Maa'idah 5:3]

1. It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1397; Muslim, 4822.

2. It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3512; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani

So we don't imitate you in anything that has to do with your worship or other things from the Sharee'ah of Islam!

Who are the people of the Scriptures other than the Jews and the Christians ?

The truth remains that your prophet was a copier machine .

There are numerous numbers of things Muhammad copied from the Jews , Christians and the pagans .

I still have more for you to digest :

Hadith
A'isha reported:
The Prophet (ﷺ) entered my house when a Jewess was with me and she was saying: Do you know that you would be put to trial in the grave? The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) trembled (on hearing this) and said: It is the Jews only who would-be put to trial. 'A'isha said: We passed some nights and then the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Do you know that it has been revealed to me:" You would be put to trial in the grave"? 'A'isha said: 1 heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) seeking refuge from the torment of the grave after this.

Sahih Muslim 584
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 157
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1212  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

You can see from your hadith above that Muhammad did not have the knowledge that people will be tormented in the grave until the women told him .
He trembled when he heard this statement and started including it in his prayers.

Hadith
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin Yasar, from Qutailah, a woman from Juhainah, that a Jew came to the Prophet and said:

"You are setting up rivals (to Allah) and associating others (with Him). You say: 'Whatever Allah wills and you will,' and you say: 'By the Ka'bah.'" So the Prophet commanded them, if they wanted to swear an oath, to say: "By the Lord of the Ka'bah;" and to say: "Whatever Allah wills, then what you will."

Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3773
In-book : Book 35, Hadith 13
English translation : Vol. 4, Book 35, Hadith 3804
Sunan an-Nasai

A jew was teaching your prophet about Islam on that was perfected to him .

haekymbahd:
I don't care they said the same to my beloved Jesus that he has demons...

John 10
20 And many of them said, He has a demon and He is mad (insane--He raves, He rambles). Why do you listen to Him?






Allah SWT said:

"Then We will surely question those to whom [a message] was sent, and We will surely question the messengers."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 6)

"But if they turn away, [O Muhammad] - then only upon you is [responsibility for] clear notification."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 82)

The problems is not what was said about Muhammad or Jesus , the problem is are those things facts and truth ?

Your Muhammad actually exhibited the symptoms of a bewitched man.

Exhibit A
Hadith

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3175
In-book : Book 58, Hadith 17
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 400  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Exhibit B

.Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
The people asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): Can we perform ablution out of the well of Buda'ah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 66
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 66
English translation : Book 1, Hadith 66
Abu Dawood

Exhibit C

Hadith
It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin Mughaffal Al-Muzani said:

"The Prophet said: 'Perform prayer in the sheep's resting-places and do not perform prayer in the camels' resting-places, for they were created from the devils."

Hasan (Darussalam)

Sunan Ibn Majah 769
In-book : Book 4, Hadith 35
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 4, Hadith 769
Sunan Ibn Majah

haekymbahd:
I am a Muslim and I am not upset about your decision you have a freewill to choose whatever rocks your boat and doesn't mean you have made the right decision.

Billions of people all over the world believes Islam is the right way if you feel otherwise it is your choice one thing you should know is that the message [Quran] has been sent already either you accept or not it is your choice "God is one"

Allah SWT said:

"Then We will surely question those to whom [a message] was sent, and We will surely question the messengers."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 6)

"But if they turn away, [O Muhammad] - then only upon you is [responsibility for] clear notification."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 82)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

I only pray that Allah should redirect you back to the right way chikena...

Why quoting words of an insane prophet ?

Hadith

Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:

I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body.

Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed.

Sahih (Al-Albani)

Sunan Abi Dawud 67
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 67
English translation : Book 1, Hadith 67
Abu Dawood

I know you will say he said the above during the period he was bewitched.

TruthHurts1:
Which heaven? The brothel one?


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.Orgasm after orgasm with continuous sexual desire and penis that is always standing erect after the show ?
That is wonderful sex paradise.

No wonder the suicide bombers are always ready for hell of sex paradise .

Muhammad was truly S.A.W. sex award winner , as someone said.

mhmsadyq:
Thank you.
The commentary is explicit enough for the truth seeker.

Until you directly answer my questions on the Parenthood of your God, Jesus, we may not make progress on this discussion.
All these your wuru wuru no be answer, oga.

If you are still interested, you should go back to the questions and give me a direct answer.

Excuses is for the indolent.

I intentionally took my time to answer your questions because it is not meant for you alone but for other Muslims to learn from.
But you can't provide answers to my questions because you can't defend your satanic religion.

Why did Muhammad bow to Allat , manat and al- Uzza ?

And why are you people worshiping STONE ?
Because your prophet kissed it .

Hadith
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:
"`Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (ﷺ) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' `Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet (ﷺ) did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'
Sahih al-Bukhari 1605
In-book : Book 25, Hadith 91
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26,

THE RITUAL OF SAFA AND MARWA ANOTHER IDOLATRY OF ISLAM
Hadith

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
To run along the valley between two green pillars of Safa and Marwa (mountains) was not Sunna, but the people in the pre-islamic period of ignorance used to run along it, and used to say: "We do not cross this rain stream except running strongly. "

Sahih al-Bukhari 3847
In-book : Book 63, Hadith 73
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 186  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

WHICH OF THESE IS YOUR ONE GOD ?

The Blackstone
The crescent moon and star
The Manat ,
Allah
Allat
All uzza
Safa and marwa
The kabah ?

You are pure idol worshiper ignorantly.
It is unfortunate that ignorance is not an excuse to escape hell fire .

You better pray enquiry prayers b4 it is too late for you.

mhmsadyq:
Thank you for those hadiths you qouted.

Go back and digest my posts to this questions , I don't have time to waste on senseless questions .

Are your ancestors trace through your mothers ?
And are you bearing the name of your mother as your surname ?

Your ignorance will not allow you to realised how idolatry you are .

You are questioning the birth of Jesus who could create a living bird from mud and not bothered about the BLACK STONE you hit your head on the ground to everyday.

You don't realise you are not living spiritually for worshiping a NON LIVING THING like stone?

You are a true hypocrite for not asking how Allah got his 3 daughters , Allat manat al uzza?

What is the name of Allah wife that gave birth to the 3 daughters of Allah ?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise."
(QS. Al-Hajj 22: Verse 52)
TAFSEER ASHBABUN AL-NUZUL.
The commentators of the Qur'an said: "When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19- 20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'. When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated. All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al- Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard. They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him. Now that Muhammad has associated them, we are all with him'. That evening, Gabriel, peace be upon him, went to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, and said: 'What have you done? You recited to people that which I did not bring from Allah, glorified is He, and you said what I did not say to you'. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, felt very saddened and was greatly scared of Allah. And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse, upon which the Quraysh said: 'Muhammad has regretted what he has mentioned regarding the status of our idols vis-à-vis Allah'. And they became even more antagonistic .....

HOW COME YOU ARE NOT BOTHERED WITH YOUR SATANIC PROPHET BOWING DOWN TO THE THREE DAUGHTERS OF ALLAH ?

ALLAH HAS WIFE ?

mhmsadyq:
Allah has sent many prophets and messengers to man. Some were known and mentioned in the Qur'an, while some were not mentioned.

Man has always deviated from the true worship and path of Allah after a while.[51:56] Al-Dhāriyāt-الذَّارِيَات
"وَ مَا خَلَقۡتُ الۡجِنَّ وَ الۡاِنۡسَ اِلَّا لِیَعۡبُدُوۡنِ ﴿۵۶﴾

And I created the jinn and human beings solely to adopt My servitude.

In order to bring man back to the path of righteousness which is the way of Allah, Allah sent messengers to nations, tribes, families and individuals as Allah pleases.

The Prophet came to remind Mankind about the commands of Allah which previous prophets and messengers also came with and to bring Mankind back to the right path.

[48:8] Al-Fatḥ-الْفَتْح
"اِنَّاۤ اَرۡسَلۡنٰکَ شَاہِدًا وَّ مُبَشِّرًا وَّ نَذِیۡرًا ۙ﴿۸﴾

Indeed, We have sent you as an eyewitness (of the actions and the state of affairs of Umma [Community] to bear testimony on the Day of Reckoning) and as a Bearer of good news and as a Warner,

[48:9] Al-Fatḥ-الْفَتْح
"لِّتُؤۡمِنُوۡا بِاللّٰہِ وَ رَسُوۡلِہٖ وَ تُعَزِّرُوۡہُ وَ تُوَقِّرُوۡہُ ؕ وَ تُسَبِّحُوۡہُ بُکۡرَۃً وَّ اَصِیۡلًا ﴿۹﴾

So that, (O people,) you may believe in Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) and may help his (Din [Religion]), and revere and venerate him heart and soul, and (with that) glorify Allah morning and evening.

The Prophet actually came to reestablished what other prophets did before the deviations.

What restitution has Allah made through Muhammad ?

Islam has compounded the problems of this world. We have the Israelites fighting the Palestinians now because of differences in religion .
The suicide bombers are all 95% Muslims.
The Boko Haram , the Hezbollah , the Hama's, the ISIS etc have exterminated billions of people's lives because of religion.

You said Allah sent prophets to this world because people are always deviating from the right or true worship.
So, people have not been deviating from true worship since Muhammad came ?

Which messengers were sent to countries of African and the rest of the continents aside from the messenger or prophets mentioned in the Bible , who were sent only to Israel ?

Israel is the only chosen Nation through which God said He would save the whole world .

You can prove me wrong , if you can.

I will tell you why God sent Jesus Christ to the world after answering my questions.

mhmsadyq:
All these just to down play the importance of mothers because you want to win an argument. Shame!
Or
I take it that, that is the trinitarian position.
I am sure if your mother should read what you posted up there, she will be disappointed in you.

In Islam the Mother is 3 times more important than the Father. Even though both constitute the parent, the mother sacrifies more in the conception and up bringing of a child.

Which image is that of a woman?

Why did your God came to the world he created through a woman?

Have you seen angels before?

Do angels procreate?

Again:

Who was the mother of your God, Jesus?

Who was the father of your God, Jesus?

Why is the Mother of your God not a God?

Can a human give birth to God?

Who was the mother of Adam?

Who was the father of Adam?

You are going to waste your eternity in hell because I can see you are very ignorant spiritually and physically.

Stop asking foolish questions that I have answered all over again .

You claimed in Islam women are 3 times more important than men ?

You are fooling yourself as Muhammad fooling you all.

Women are rated higher when you compared them with dogs .

Hadith
Narrated `Aisha:
The things which annul prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, "You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs. By Allah! I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) praying while I used to lie in (my) bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I disliked to sit and trouble the Prophet. So, I would slip away by the side of his feet."

Sahih al-Bukhari 514
In-book : Book 8, Hadith 161
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 9, Hadith 493  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Women are rated higher when you Muslims claim women are more in hell and have lesser brains compared with the men and do not have perfect religion ?

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of `Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

Sahih al-Bukhari 304
In-book : Book 6, Hadith 9
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 6, Hadith 301  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Is it possible to give birth to someone older than you ?

Jesus told you :
Matthew 12:48-50 KJV
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? [49] And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! [50] For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

THIS SHOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE BLIND AND IGNORANT because I HAD EARLIER POSTED THE ABOVE TO YOU.

mhmsadyq:
What about his mother. Is his Mother God?

Genealogically , it is male offsprings that is needed.
Mothers are just vessels or a house through which we came into this world.
Women are just caretakers. The owners of children are the fathers. That is why you are called by your fathers name.

The real image of God is the man which was created first by God.

God does not need a woman to create humans . It is we humans that need woman to procreate .
God created the Angels without a partner. You cannot find female Angels .

I have a question for you , which you ought to ask.

What is the assignments of Muhammad which Moses and other prophets couldn't deliver that made God to send Muhammad ?

Shellsploit:
No vex bro...
Abeg.

I knew you didn't know.

Make you too no vex o.

helinues:
Your reference to the events has been based only on Bible, which was written to suit the writers narration.

There was nothing like European countries when the first crusade by christians started. You have already admitted that the Israelites conquered the Canaan land which is today present Israel...

Conquered is totally different from defended... The land the Israelites conquered wasn't there cos they met some people there...

Those people are the current Palestinians being cheated on by Israel...

Shun that stories from Bible or Quran and discuss this with reality back up

What is the meaning of crusade ?

What was the year of the crusade ?

mhmsadyq:
Lie!

Then who was Mary?

I know you are avoiding as much as you can to concede that your God had a mother.

Angelus:
...Hail Mary mother of God...

If Mary could bore your God and wean him, why is she not one of the Gods in trinity or qudruity I should say.



enilove:

Jesus is God because his Father is a God .A lion wiill give birth to a lion .

Are you called by your mother's name.

The Qur'an is man made and not Divine , this is the reason Muhammad could not call Jesus by his Father's name .

Jesus is the Son of God because a child is not called by his mother's name.

All over the world , tracking of Generations is through the ancestral fathers and not the mothers.

Since his Father is God , he too is God.

Lion begets lions , goats begets goats .

Shellsploit:
If u have common sense, go back and read what i posted.

I didn't abuse you . I was referring to @kobojunkie who is always posting nonsense as you said.
I said the guy not you guy. I hope you get my point

helinues:
Which one came first? Crusade or Jihad?

Who first prosecuted who between Christian and Muslim?

You already confirmed that Israelites conquered the land which means they fought and grabbed it cos they were not the rightful owner of the land.

That's what I have been saying about religion, Those who write bible and quran only write the story that suits their narration.

All the war story in the bible was tagged crusade without giving clear explanation of what led to the war... Quran labelled their own war Jihad, the suitable story they wrote then is what some terrorists are still following today.

The wars in the Bible are not related to the crusade .
The crusade was stage by the Europeans and not Israelites .

It began more than 3000 years after the wars of Israel happened .

How then are they related ?

The Israelites possessed the land of Canaan about 3000 years b4 the crusade .

Pls , go and read more about the crusade

mhmsadyq:
Fair enough!
Who were his parents?

Who were the parents of Mary?

He does not have earthly parents .

He has only a heavenly Father .

mhmsadyq:
Please explain the above, so I can ask my questions

This was a revelation given by prophet Isaiah about 1200 years b4 Jesus was born.

It talks about the true identities of Jesus .

He will be born as a child and grow to be a son but his true identity is God in human form.

That is simply what it means.

mhmsadyq:
You seem to begin to align with the Qur'an.
Good!

But I don't get the other part.

What do you mean by aligning with the Qur'an?
Did I quote the Quran ?