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haekymbahd:
obedient Jews and not all Jews were Muslims that was why Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel..

What is the name of the God the obedient Jews used to call upon ?

haekymbahd:
Submitter to the will of God

This means the Jews were Muslims , right ?

haekymbahd:
Islam has a name didn't exist before Moses same as Christianity and Judaism..

But Abraham, Moses, and Jesus were all Muslims [Submitter to will of God]..

Who is a Muslim ?

haekymbahd:
Allah was the God of Abraham, prophets and messengers before Moses never knew God as Yahwe but God Almighty

Exodus 6 verse 3

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.


Is God Almighty a name why was Jehovah responding to it?

We call God Allah and not illah because God himself did not reveal himself to Abraham as God but God Almighty.

So you don't expect us to call God as god [illah] instead of God [Allah]


Yahwe itself means "I will be what I will be" is that a name

Allah SWT said:

"Say, Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names. And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way."
(QS. Al-Israa 17: Verse 110)

is Jesus the God Almighty (Allah) that appeared to Abraham.

Beleiving in one God is the first and principal commandment whosoever break s that is not worshipping same God with us...

If Jesus is not the God Almighty that appeared to Abraham then we are not worshipping the same God.

Allah SWT said:

"Or do you say that Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants were Jews or Christians? Say, Are you more knowing or is Allah? And who is more unjust than one who conceals a testimony he has from Allah? And Allah is not unaware of what you do."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 140)


The truth is the doctrine of trinity is from completely from Satan...

Let's take it one after the other.

Was Islam before Moses ?

haekymbahd:
They didn't call on Allah but they call on God abi?


Kindly give another name for God in Arabic?


They didn't worship the same God because Allah the creator had said clearly he is one and has no partners if the Arab christians claim their God has partners 3 in 1 then they are not worshipping our the Allah of Muhammad?

Same way you are not worshipping Jehovah of the Jehovah witness because he is purely 1 but you claim your God (Jehovah, Jesus, Holyspirit) is 3 in 1....

The word ''God'' is a title and not a name.

The word God in Islam is ''Ilah'' . his name is Allah . Remember the Arabs had many gods with different names for them , some of which are Allat , Manat etc.

2) The God we worship is One as well . You can read this all over the old and the new testaments :

Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord :

Micah 4:5 KJV
For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.

Ephesians 4:6 KJV
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

By merely saying ONE GOD does not mean ONE TRUE GOD .This is just words of mouth but not a fact if the True God is not the one you worship and does not know you as His worshiper.

James 2:19 KJV
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Believing there is one God and shouting '' one God '' does not make you His worshiper . What makes you His worshiper is calling upon His name and doing His commandments.

Islam is a religion of another god with different commandments , doctrines and different mode of worship.

3)
We worship Jehovah God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. But the Jehovah's witness organization members claim they worship Jehovah God , which may be true or false. One thing is they have many heresies in their doctrines.

Even though there a billions of Christians globally , it does not mean they are all worshiping the True God.

Many Christians are worshiping money and other earthly things and are still going to church .

The truth is this , Islam is completely of Satan.

haekymbahd:
since Arab christians and Jews also use the word Allah. Infact Allah is used as God in the Arabic bible.

1. Is The moon God the father of Jesus? Or the Arab christians and Jews are worshipping a different Jesus to the English Jesus


Mind you Christianity and Judaism were already in the Arab world before Muhammad received revelation mao don't say Muhammad influenced them.


2. What is the relationship between Allah and Allat?

The Arab Christians never called on Allah. It was the ignorant Arabs who substituted the name of the God for Allah .

The Christians and the Jews in Arabia knew that the God of Muhammad was not the same God they worship. This was why they did not accept his religion .

AntiChristian:
Since your God gave Moses a name, which name did God gave Adam, Noah, and others who came before Moses?

Allah is the name of the Lord who has no son nor partners; the creator, sustainer and cherisher of all things.

Allah is a moon god .

Why saying Allah has no son nor partner ? What about the 3 daughters of Allah Muhammad worshiped ?

Tafseer for surah 22:52.
NAsbab al-Nuzul
The commentators of the Qur'an said: "When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19- 20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'. When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated. All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al- Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard. They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him.

Allah and Allat are both related . Why is your god's name associated with the name of an idol ?
You are worshiping an idol and not God.

Kobojunkie:
Like I said...

Go and sleep and stop jumping from thread to thread with your shallow biblical knowledge.

Kobojunkie:
it is written by humans in human language, hence, no interpretation necessary, simply basic human language comprehension skills necessary.

There are so many personal interpretations you JW have given to the words God in the Bible , so don't give me that excuse .

Just post the Verses and tell us what it means from JW perspective.

Kobojunkie:
So Mark 16 vs 14 - 18 is not Jesus Christ and not in your Bible?

Why can't you post it and tell us ur interpretation for everyone to see ?

Kobojunkie:
Unless you don't believe in Jesus Christ , I again suggest you read and trust in what He tells you in Mark 16 vs 14 - 18

The truth is that you don't understand the Bible .
It is because I don't want you to mislead people that made me reprove you and I want you to know I have nothing against you.

Kobojunkie:
Read John 3 vs 1 - 8 where Jesus Christ Himself explains to you what it means to be born-again abeg!

I should tell you that and not the other way round.

Like you can see from the example of the 7 sons of sceva that although they believed in the name of Jesus but could not do any miracle , here is also another example for you :

Acts 8:13-22 KJV
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
[14] Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
[15] Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
[16] (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
[17] Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
[18] And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
[19] Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
[20] But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
[21] Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
[22] Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.


You claimed anyone who believe Jesus will receive the Holy Spirit , but why was Simeon the sorcerer. who believed , not able to receive the Holy Spirit ?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ told us in Mark 16 vs 17 - 18 that speaking in tongues is a sign that one believes in Jesus Christ, and not that one is Holy/Sinless.
According to the above, it does not matter whether you are Holy/Perfect or not, what matters is whether you believe or not.
Also, to believe in Jesus Christ, according to Jesus Christ Himself, remains a choice individuals make of their own, and not one made under the influence of the Spirit of God.

If you believe in Jesus Christ , you will will believe his words and commandments.
You will be born again. To be born again is to live a Holy life.

For example :
Acts 19:13-17 KJV
Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
[14] And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
[15] And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
[16] And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. [17] And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.

The sons of sceva believed in the name of Jesus but were not born again , therefore the spirit dealt with them .

Kobojunkie:
First thing to know is that God is Holy and cannot inhabit that which is filthy with Sin. Hence,the Spirit of God only inhabits individuals who are clean, Holy/Perfect aka without sin. Those who are without sin are those who through continuous submission and obedience(Knowing) to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Truth, have been set free from slavery to sin by their knowing of the Truth and transformed in to Sons of God. Yes, Sons of God are Holy and capable vessels of the Spirit of God and this because they are free from slavery to sin - John 8 vs 31 -44.

The signs taught by Jesus Christ in Mark 16 vs 17- 18 which includes the speaking of a foreign tongue are, however, signs that follow those who believe in Jesus Christ, whether with or without sin. So speaking in tongues is not a mark of the presence of the Spirit of God but instead a mark that one believes in Jesus Christ.

The Spirit of the Almighty God is God Himself and those He lives on the inside of are aware of His presence. The Spirit Himself bears witness of whose one is and so on.

You don't know what you are saying .

What do you mean by saying '' speaking in tongues is not a sign of the presence of the Holy Spirit of God but a mark that one believes in Jesus Christ whether in sin or not ?

How do you believe in Christ without the conviction of the Holy Spirit ?
How can you speak in new tongues without the Holy Spirit ?

Bluntguy:
Each time I meditate on the Bible, Psalms Chapter 7 verse 15 always bring tears to my eyes. It says, He that digs a pit for you shall fall into it. That tells me HIS eyes are always upon me.

Which verse of the Bible moves you most and why?

Evey verse of the Bible ministers to me and equally.

There is no one that is more important than the others.

BigE5:
Happy new month everyone, how can we in vite the holy spirit in our lives ❓
What can we use as Christians to discern when He speaks to us from when we feel something within telling us to make a move

How can we encounter the holy spirit, is it a must to speak in tounges❓

There two levels of the Holy Spirit :
1)
You get the Holy Spirit when you give your life to Christ and be born again.

2) BAPTISM OF FIRE
A) After given your life to Christ and you start to observe and follow the teachings of the Bible ,
B) You are also reading your bible regular and fasting at least twice a week ,
when you pray for BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT which is also baptism of fire , you will receive it with or without evidence of speaking in tongues.

paxonel:
We are not fighting we are here to learn,
stop insulting and attacking me like Boko haram, if you do it again i will simply ignore you.
You had the option of not to comment at all, it is not by force
I didn't say a Christian cannot be a castaway after being a Christian. It is very possible for a Christian to be a castaway and that is only possible when the Christian leave the faith.
So, Paul was doing everything possible not to leave the faith by someone else who is an unbeliever convincing him that Jesus is not the Christ, seeing that he was also a preacher of the faith.
in order words, it's a big shame to say there is Grace through Christ and that Grace is powerful enough to cleans your sin no matter how the sin is?

To you, writer of this scripture should be assumed too

Isaiah 1: 8 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
you don't have any reasonable adequate argument to call me that. Perhaps you misunderstood my point, may be you should have asked further questions for clarification, now you don fall your hand
your kind of man needs deliverance from ignorance

The truth is bitter .Iwas not abusing you but just telling you the truth that you don't understand the Bible .

1)
When and where did Paul had problems with his faith in Christ ?
What evidence do you have to prove that Paul was trying not to leave his faith ?

Paul said :
1 Corinthians 9:27 KJV
BUT I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

2) Isaiah 1:8 is not saying you should go back to your sins after God has forgiven you your sins.

Ezekiel 18:21-24 KJV
But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
[22] All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
[23] Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God : and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
[24] But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Jesus the Great Judge said :

Revelation 22:11-12 KJV
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

haekymbahd:
Allah is the God of Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob

Exodus 6
2And God said to Moses, I am the Lord.

3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty but by My name the Lord I did not make Myself known to them.

God Almighty - Almighty Allah

Yes Allah only revealed the Gospel to Jesus not Paul, Peter and so on.

Definitely not the God of Paul and his likes.

Allah SWT said:

"Then We sent following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Gospel. And We placed in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy and monasticism, which they innovated; We did not prescribe it for them except [that they did so] seeking the approval of Allah. But they did not observe it with due observance. So We gave the ones who believed among them their reward, but many of them are defiantly disobedient."
(QS. Al-Hadid 57: Verse 27)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


John 17
3 And this is eternal life: [it means] to know (to perceive, recognize, become acquainted with, and understand) You, the only true and real God, and [likewise] to know Him, Jesus [as the] Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), Whom You have sent.

If Allah is not the God of Paul , why is the Qur'an claiming it was Allah who sent Paul ,Peter and John to Antioch ?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
إِذْ أَرْسَلْنَآ إِلَيْهِمُ اثْنَيْنِ فَكَذَّبُوهُمَا فَعَزَّزْنَا بِثَالِثٍ فَقَالُوٓا إِنَّآ إِلَيْكُمْ مُّرْسَلُونَ
"When We sent to them two but they denied them, so We strengthened them with a third, and they said, "Indeed, we are messengers to you.""
(QS. Yaseen 36: Verse 14)

Where can we find this Gospel sent by Allah in the Qur'an?

These questions are very important because the Gospel must have a divine purposes which needs to be fulfilled.

Which of the books of the Gospels In the Bible do you believe is authentic?

paxonel:
you go school at all?
so, what is your point? are these scriptures you quoted not suppose to serve as advice to Christians that they should not commit sin rather than using the scriptures to judge them ?
very true!
God is like a father advicing a disobedient child. If the child like let him take the advice, if he doesn't take the advice then he must face the consequences.
God doesn't give a damn!
He is not a respecter of any person.
you have seen a living human body, sure!
But have you ever seen a human spirit before?
The answer is no!
why?
Because the spirit lives inside the body.
So, whether the body is swimming in river of sin, it has nothing to do with the spirit inside him.

John 3:6 says That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Flesh and spirit are two separate entity though they are merged while the individual is alive, but the moment the person dies, they are separated.

Hence, a believer is born of the spirit while an unbeliever is born of the flesh.

A believer is born of the spirit, that spirit can never be separated from him by means of his sins. The gift of righteousness from God is without repentance.
Righteousness is a gift, it is not what we do.

An unbeliever, whether he sins or not is already separated from the spirit.

Can you show me scripture to proof that the spirit is not living in your defiled body?

On the contrary :

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
you better have knowledge and change my sister

Like I said earlier , you are a spiritual Lilliputian . You are not fit to talk about the Bible because you are a spiritual dwarf .

Here is Paul who was Holy Spirit filled talking about how he was subduing his body so as not to go to hell:

1 Corinthians 9:26-27 KJV
I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
[27] But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

It is a big shame to say '' Because the spirit lives inside the body.
So, whether the body is swimming in river of sin, it has nothing to do with the spirit inside him.''

The above is why you are a spiritual dwarf and spiritually ignorant of the things of God.

What makes a person to be swimming in sin is the spirit inside him. It is the spirit that gives instructions to the soul which is carried out by the body of the man to perpetrate evils.

Point of correction , I am a man .

MaxInDHouse:
He is trying to explain what is beyond his grasp!

God will not judge anyone because of their sins, but He will judge people on the bases of their heart condition.
So no matter what you've done in the past it's how remorseful you are about those atrocities that will determine your fate! Luke 23:39-43

However once you've known what is wrong try to work on your flesh so as not to allow it to lead you back to such wrong desires! Galatians 5:19-21

What is the meaning of '' bases of their heart condition'' ?

Your heart will either make you to sin against God or make you to be righteous with God.

Secondly , to work on your flesh means if you don't work on the flesh it will over power your spirit man and eventually you start indulging in sins :
Galatians 5:19-21 KJV
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these ; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Based on the scriptures above , how can any Christian say he will not be judged by his sins .

May God bless her abundantly and keep her from all evils , in the name of Jesus.

SimplyFacts:
Many Christians believe that they need to pray to God for conviction - whether a lady or guy is the right person for him/her. Do Muslims also wait to get confirmation from Allah?

They don't pray enquiry prayers . All they do is to follow the Qur'an and the hadiths and marry anyone their left or right hand possessed. Whether in the street , in the mosques or anywhere.

paxonel:
Every sin you commit is done by your flesh.
Your flesh is physical, all your actions there in, good or bad are physical.
God is a spirit, he will only judge you by your spirit.
Infact, everything about Christianity is spirit, only that it needs your flesh to actualize the fruits of the spirit which are love, joy, peace..

The fruits of the spirit are not spirits, they are what humans can do which we can see.
Anybody, can live the fruits the spirit, it is not only meant for Christians. Likewise, anyone can commit sin. Sin is not only meant for unbelievers. Because both the fruits of the spirit and sin are all of the flesh.

But what is spirit is spirit, it is not of the flesh.
God is a spirit.
God does not give a damn about your fleshy actions good or bad, he is not interested.
All he want is for you to key to the spirit for your justification.

Now, this message may appear to you that the op is encouraging you to go and sin, but that is not the case.
As a matter of fact, that your consciousness of trying to be self righteous is what is pushing you to commit sin the more, you may not know.

Christianity is spirit and it does not require your flesh to practice it.
Jesus says my kingdom is not of this world.
But guess what, your flesh and your self righteousness is of this world. The day you fail to maintain that your self righteousness you profess(of which certainly you will fail because you are human), people of this world will thread on you(not God, because God will never judge you)
But if you are humble and seek mercy always, people of this world will be merciful to you on that day of your failure including God himself.

You are another spiritual Lilliputian like the Jehovah's witness organization members. In fact , they are a little above you.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 KJV
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
[19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
[20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


1 Corinthians 3:16-17 KJV
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
[17] If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

You said :
God does not give a damn about your fleshy actions good or bad, he is not interested.
All he want is for you to key to the spirit for your justification.

How do you key to the Spirit when you are committing sin with your body ?
How can you key to the Spirit when the Spirit is not living in your defiled body ?

OP , are you a Christian at all ?

mhmsadyq:
Allah has described himself to us severally in the Qur'an.
It is you who doesn't believe in Allah that should be concerned.

Many people are describing themselves in many ways to deceive people.
Many idols have been described as true gods to deceive people in worshiping the Devil ignorantly.Some do perform magic to deceive people .

What I mean is that , it is not enough to accept the descriptions of Allah given in the Qur'an.
You need to check the evidences to ascertain whether Allah is what Muhammad said he is or what Allah calls himself.

The Bible warned us :

2 Corinthians 11:13-14 KJV
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

My question still remains ; Is Allah the same God of the Bible ?

haekymbahd:
There are so many God of the Bible specify which you are referring to (God of Jews, God of Jehovah's witnesses, God of trinitarians, God of Catholics e.t.c) cos none of the followers of each God believes the other is saved.


Allah SWT said:

"Mankind was [of] one religion [before their deviation]; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners and sent down with them the Scripture in truth to judge between the people concerning that in which they differed. And none differed over the Scripture except those who were given it - after the clear proofs came to them - out of jealous animosity among themselves. And Allah guided those who believed to the truth concerning that over which they had differed, by His permission. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 213)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

The God of the Bible is the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob , He does no change and will never changed .
Different beliefs abound in Islam and Christianity .

My question is a simple one ;
Is Allah the God of the Bible or not ?
Since you claimed there are different Gods in the Bible , which one of them is Allah ?

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mhmsadyq:
LNGKMD!
Wetin concern me if in the whole Arab world till date dem no get one qualified Trinitarian scholar to translate their bible to Arabic.
Yet you dey here dey translate Our Qur'an when your bible was compiled by ignoramuses.
The Arab Christians need your scholarship more than on NL.

Or How difficult is it for you to say the Arab bible was compiled by Arab Muslims?

This una arrogance of knowing too much of other people's religion na im go finally consume una.

Allah is my God! I don't give a damn what Trinitarians God is or called.

It is Divine to be a trinitarian but it satanic to be a solitudinarian like you Muslims.
For you Muslims , no one is disputing it that Allah ist your god , but the Jews and we Christians know that Allah is not our God .
What should give you more concern is that this Allah claims to be the God of the Bible . Is this true ?

mhmsadyq:
Is this all you could make from the verses, Ya Sheikh?
Poor job from a big scholar!

Anyway, Can you pls. help me with the name of God from an Arabic bible?

Arabic Bibles were compiled by Arabs who were not spiritually knowledgeable and unqualified to do the task.
Meaning whatever name they might have given to God in their Arabic Bible is as a result of their ignorance .

The name of the God of the Bible is not ''Allah'' which the Arabs included in their own translated Bible.

Just take your time and go over what the OP has been posting on this thread , it would do you eternal good .

sagenaija:
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Even with clear evidence Moslems can't see the discrepancies and falsehoods in the Koran.

You run away from answering questions but want us to just swallow all that you present.

Thank you for letting us see that it takes the miracle of Islamic REINTERPRETATION to make us understand that "the oft-repeated verse AND the Koran" actually means "the oft-repeated verse IN the Koran".The Koran which claims to be clear actually needs Mohamed to make several portions clear. It has to take the Hadiths compiled several years after Mohamed to clarify things. Thank you for this.

Let us note these:
The usual claim of "Say!" does not precede the verse in question.
It takes the Hadiths 90% of which were written by those who LIVED hundreds of miles away from where Mohamed was supposed to have had his ministry and who lived several decades after Mohamed to explain the Koran. Were these not attempts to clear up a book that claimed to be CLEAR but is actually more obscure than open?
It is obvious from the way the Koran is written that it is not the writing of one person. Some areas areas are clear but you have others that are just simply disjointed and foggy. It looks like a copy and paste material that now requires Hadiths and other materials to reconcile and explain it.

Given the tens of THOUSANDS of Hadiths it would mean that those who recounted them did nothing else except observe Mohamed day by day, hour by hour and minute by minute. That is the only way they could talk about his going to the toilet, to stains in his clothes after sex, to other irrelevant issues that bear no connection with what the moslem's life should be.

If those who wrote the Hadiths were inspired by Allah then Islam had other MESSENGERS apart from Mohamed. After all, without their sayings and writings most part of the Koran will be mystery and many practices in Islam wouldn't be there today.

Do you agree that these men, who wrote what in many instances are the only things we can use to understand the Koran, were INSPIRED by Allah?

This is a very very good question .

I pray he would answer.

haekymbahd:
Why did your God (Jesus) tell his worshippers to worship stone at Jerusalem

According to (1 King 8 vs 44-45) RSV. "If thy people go out to battle against their enemy, whatever, thou shalt sent them, and shall pray unto the Lord toward the city (Jerusalem) which thou hast chosen, and towards the house that I have built for thy name, then hear thou in heaven their prayer and their supplication, and maintain their cause".

Again let us take a look at another verse in the Bible (Daniel 6 vs 10) "Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house, and his window been open in his chamber towards Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his kneels three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did before. Then these men assembled, and found Daniel praying and making supplication before his God".

(Psalm 5 vs 7) ASV. "I will worship towards thy Holy Temple, and praise thy name for thy loving kindness and for thy truth, for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name".


Your God orders his followers to worship stones.

this is Jerusalem and not mecca.

Your problem is Like the saying goes , they have eyes but cannot see , ears have they but cannot hear ''.

Can you answer these questions ?

1)Was that God's commandments or requests from man to God ?

2)When does a prayer request becomes a law ?

3) Before the Synagogue was built , was God
answering there prayers or not ?

4) After it was built , are their prayers to the temple or to God ?

5) Where is it written that they should worship A STONE ?
6) Is there anything like the LAWS OF SOLOMON ?

7) Are these people Christians ?

Hear what Jesus said :

John 4:20-26 KJV
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
[21] Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this THIS MOUNTAIN , NOR YET AT JERUSALEM , worship the Father.
[22] Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
[25] The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
[26] Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

The Arabs are stone worshippers from the time of Ishmael and the Scriptures you gave did not mention STONES and this was not God's commandment but a request which Jesus came and abolished .

Hadith
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:
"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)

Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919
In-book : Book 24, Hadith 0
English translation : Vol. 3, Book 24, Hadith 2922
Sunan an-Nasai

HOW CAN TOUCHING OF A STONE ERASE YOUR SINS ?

AntiChristian:
Subhanallah! So you still dey here?

The context of the Qur'an is entirely different from that of the Bible. It is evident that someone wrote the Bible in its entirety and God never for once dictate its entire wordings.

But the Qur'an is not so! Allah doesn't need to say invoke me with this verse/Surah! It was Allah speaking!

And when the Angel recited the Qur'an to the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam, he recited it that way!

1. There's a big error when you compare Allah , the mighty and supreme to one "Matthew" whose surname, genealogy, moral and mental ability/capability is unknown. Allah uses I, Allah, We, Us, etc. for Himself. Can Matthew use same too?

2. How well do those people know Matthew? Can they confirm Matthew truly met Jesus? A hadith can be labelled unsound if it is discovered that one of the chain of narrators did not meet the other.

3. A simple google search says: Most scholars believe the gospel was composed between AD 80 and 90, with a range of possibility between AD 70 to 110; a pre-70 date remains a minority view. The work does not identify its author, and the early tradition attributing it to the apostle Matthew is rejected by modern scholars.

4. The book of Matthew was written with evident dependence on the earlier Gospel According to Mark.

Abeg keep your validations and lies to yourself. I need time do better things.

1)You are a spiritual Lilliputian . By attacking or doubting the Bible is simply calling your Allah and Muhammad fake god and fake prophet since Allah claimed it was his words.

2) Despite various nonsense written in the Qur'an , how can you call that the word of God? Like women having sperm , Sun setting in a mud , calling Mary the sister of Aaron , saying Allah holds the birds in the air , saying all things were created in pairs ,
abrogating the Qur'an and causing it to be forgotten to hide the truths etc.

People knew the Qur'an wasn't divine.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا إِنْ هٰذَآ إِلَّآ إِفْكٌ ٱفْتَرٰىهُ وَأَعَانَهُۥ عَلَيْهِ قَوْمٌ ءَاخَرُونَ  ۖ فَقَدْ جَآءُو ظُلْمًا وَزُورًا
"And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie."
وَقَالُوٓا أَسٰطِيرُ الْأَوَّلِينَ اكْتَتَبَهَا فَهِىَ تُمْلٰى عَلَيْهِ بُكْرَةً وَأَصِيلًا
"And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon.""
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 4-5)
The above is true because Allah and Muhammad didn't know women produce eggs which is fertilized by the sperm .

3) Can you give any proofs that Allah is mighty or a creator ? Nothing .
Allah was the idol worshiped by the ancestors of Muhammad.
He could not heal , could not raise the dead, could not heal Muhammad of ordinary poison , could not convince people to worship him through sign and wonders except by asking Muslims to kill and force people to worship him. The list is endless.

This is another reason why Muhammad caused you Muslims to be worshiping the stone. The Arabs were stone worshippers and you are worshiping the stone by bowing towards the kabah day in day out.

Hadith:
It was narrated from Abdullah bin Ubaid bin Umair that a man said:

"O Abu abdur-Rahman, why do I only see you touching these two corners?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Touching them erases sins.' And I head him say: 'whoever circumambulates seven times, it is like freeing a slave.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 2919
In-book : Book 24, Hadith 0
English translation : Vol. 3, Book 24, Hadith 2922
Sunan an-Nasai