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BikeMan:
You mean what was Mata's contribution when we won the UCL, he was in charge of bibs. Na you carry Sanchez abi? So Matic is your own world class player

So Matic is not world class too? I agree they're not all world class. Shey you go rest now?

raumdeuter:
If PSG wants to win the CL the players they will be relying on are Neymar Mbappe Cavani DiMaria, Verrati these are the main players close to their peak the others are just squad players to help out and not at the peak of their games as no team will parade 22 world class players

So last season was City depending on Yaya to win or was Man Utd depending on Carrick to win

Soon you will tell us they signed Chupo-Moting because he was world class and going strong

You're just all over the place comparing players that start every game with Yaya and Carrick

BikeMan:
Mata has won the two biggest championships in football Matic would probably not win again. Sanchez won titles with Barcelona and dragged his team to drown Messi's Argentina twice in Copa America

What was Mata's contribution? Sanchez that was carried? Lmao

raumdeuter:
Both are tied. Age is the reason a 16yr old in most cases is too young to make an impact and the reason when most players decline in their late 30s

Its why Zlatan is playing in MLS and why Ronaldinho is no more elite

All these names you're going to call sef. PSG have their eyes on the Champions League, they have spent huge money for it recently. They have seen that these players are still world class and going strong, but you're going to call Judas Iscariot from 20BC to prove something that has already been proven

raumdeuter:
Its called fathers time, they have no option. Dani Alves Buffon and Silva are no longer world class just like Yaya and Schweinsteiger

Because of their age or their performance on the pitch?

BikeMan:
are you really asking what both players have won?

Yes what have they won for their team? EPL, Champion league, or world cup?

Don't give up bro, you must marry her. To impress her and draw her closer to you, give her plenty money and ask her to flex it with the guy. She will love you more, trust me

raumdeuter:
World class is not a place you sit in for life. Especially as you grow older you start dropping out of world class like it happened to Carrick, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Schweisteiger, Yaya etc.

Stop forcing players to drop out of world class, they haven't.

I don't envy OGS at all

I know I have said some bad things about Lingard, I apologize. Now I understand how important he is to the team. Don't know how I can endure 2-3 weeks of Sanchez and Mata

raumdeuter:
For example Dagba has played 9mins of CL football, No National competition and dont know of his former club

So how are you able to compare him to Martial and Lukaku

How many minutes of Champions League football has Alves, Silva, Marquinhos and Buffing played that they're not world class but Martial is

raumdeuter:
You listed some PSG as world class and some not

How did you know when you dont watch them

Champions league, National competitions, former clubs

Roland17:
This is where I give up!!!!! Why was I even wasting my time?

You don't watch the French league or follow the players closely yet you are busy making conclusions about the players from the league because you watch them in only one competition where they are considered fringe players.

LMAO let me break it down for you
If Martial and Lukaku that has not done anything for their clubs can be world class, why not those on the bench? Abi what's the difference between playing and doing nothing on the field and staying on the bench?

MrDojo:
In which world are those players world class? I hope you're talking about another Alexis (the porn star?), Not the Sanchez that is in United.

Abi e ri nkan?

BikeMan:
mbappe has played consistently at the top for years? and matic? how come Mata or Sanchez didn't fit into this

Matic won the league twice as a starter. Can't say the same about Mata and Sanchez. What have they done? Your team even collapsed immediately Matic left, chopping 4-6 goals here and there

raumdeuter:
You dont watch French league yet you can confidently say the PSG players are world class.

How were you able to rate them? Is it by the number of alphabets in their names

My point has always been that none of those four are world class but you claimed they are world class

raumdeuter:
ep.h12

So using your own metrics rate Martial, Lukaku, Kimpembe Dagba

10 is best player ever seen, 1 is worst player ever seen

I don't watch the French league so how can I rate?

Roland17:
What is the crux of the matter then? Please stick the comparison of Kimpembe/ Dagba vs Lukaku/ Martial

Which of those players are world class there?

raumdeuter:
Schweini Toure and Cech are similar to Alves Buffon and Silva former world class players who are pas their prime

Not all players get past their prime at the same age. Like Boateng is just 30 and is already long past his prime, these ones are still going strong. I don't blame Boateng though, players don't have same expiry date

raumdeuter:
Lukaku 25yrs over 100 EPL goals

Your top does not include dragging to finals or beasting finals anymore?

raumdeuter:
Did you see Neymar Cavani on the field yesterday?

If you are including Buffon Alves and Silva can we also include Schweinsteiger or Yaya Toure or Cech who is younger than some of them

Did you see Schiwie, Toure or Cech on the field that day?

raumdeuter:
Okay good

So should we count the years

Martial/Lukaku have played consistently at the top and compare it to Kimpembe/Dagba?

Martial and Lukaku have played consistently at the top? LMAO

raumdeuter:
eph.12 So back to the matter

How is Lukaku/Martial vs Kimpembe/Dagba

That isn't even the crux of the matter but I will oblige you

You mentioned Lukaku and Martial as world class and your reasons were not only far from your usual reasons for judging players, but laughable

raumdeuter:
So what is your criteria for world class and how many PSG players that played on the night(starters and subs) fit it

Remember we are going to use the same criteria for Man utd players

Played at the top consistently for years

United
DeGea, Pogba, Matic

PSG
Neymar, Cavani, Mbappe, Di Maria, Verrati, Buffon, Alves, Silva

Lana1:
Very soon we will read that players can be world class or not based on the color of their jersey.

Be patient, they are getting there

raumdeuter:
How can one become world class by not playing in National team or by being a benchwarmer for club like Kimpembe and Dagba? In what world is that

Now you see that none of them are world class. I wouldn't have mentioned those names, only did it to show you the sense nonsense in the nonsense

raumdeuter:
Lukaku was 2nd top scorer in the EPL, Unless you are telling us that goals in the EPL dont matter because its farmers league

You that were not convinced about Kane when he delivered for Tottenham is now saying Lukaku is world class for being 2nd top scorer?

Roland17:
This is the problem with some folks on this section. Most are conformist who have no mind of their own, they need allies to help them push their cause. So just because I share a similar view as Dayo on this matter, it means I am aligned to all his thoughts?

I have been in battles with Dayo and will continue, educate yourself by reading through my comments. Even Dayo will tell you that.

Kimbempe made the French squad to the World cup and played how many matches? For the records, Kimbempe has only 7 international caps in comparison to Martial's 18. Furthermore, Martial did not make the squad because his form was horrible after Sanchez arrived United and bear in mind he copped an injury before that.

You were trying to troll and I answered in kind. How can you say one becomes world class because of his national team appearance or playing in a first team? In which world is that?

raumdeuter:
Buffon Alvez and Silva are past their prime and cannot be world class

Its like asking if Yaya Toure, Schweinsteiger or Kompany is world class today

Draxler is a mediocre player just a little better than Lingaard, Marquinho and Kimpembe are young upcoming defenders just like Lindelof and Shaw or can we say Shaw and Lindelof are world class too

And Martial is not upcoming but already world class abi? Go on

Lukaku that until two years was playing for Everton, has not won anything neither has he delivered in any final is world class? Kontinu

raumdeuter:
You mean its possible to be a world class player in Europe and you will not be able to recognize him?

Dagba has played a total of 340mins for PSG this season and you are asking if he is world class

I'm asking why Martial and Lukaku are world class and those ones at PSG are not. We have Marquinhos, Kimbempe, Draxler, Buffon, ALves, Silva etc

Lana1:
Funny enough, na only De Gea and Pogba most United fans dey ever tag "best in the world" or "world class". We constantly complain about the averageness of Lingard and Herrera, how inconsistent Martial is and our mediocre defence.

They said our players were average and riding on luck when we were beating the Tottenham's and Arsenal's of this world.
Now dem dey call those same players world class just to make themselves feel good about our L to PSG.

The discussion for at least make sense if these dudes could stay consistent in their assessments

I am just having fun here. Their analysis dey make me laugh

Roland17:
How many national team caps do Lukaku and Martial have in comparison to Dagba and Kimpembe?

How many international competitions have Lukaku and Martial played in when compared to Dagba and Kimpembe?

How many UCL/European club competition experience do Lukaku and Martial have in comparison to Dagba and Kimpembe?

What are the transfer fees/ salaries for Lukaku and Martial in comparison to Dagba and Kimpembe?

Are Kimpembe and Dagba first team starters in a healthy PSG side in comparison to Lukaku and Martial?

Are Kimpembe and Dagba starters for their respective national team sides, in comparison to Lukaku and Martial?

I can go on and on bro.

Kimbempe made the France squad to the world cup, Martial couldn't.

So transfer fees, first team starters, national team appearance are what determines your world class players? Something is telling me you belong to aparisports club but I don't want to believe

raumdeuter:
If I give you a picture of 4 players, Can you identify Dagba?

So that's how you determine your world class players? Interesting