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ddippset:
supported. Even if he was always playing crap, alvez was always one of the fighters on the pitch and even in the press room. You could always see the blood in his eyes during games. A 3 year contract for him would not be too much of a bonanza.

I know some clubs don't like to give players over 30 anything longer than a year's extension. That's why I just think they can table €1M and maintain the salary with the condition that if we win another major trophy the following season he could get another contract and a bonus. CR7 did something similar to the RM board when he was scoring goals but not celebrating because he felt undervalued by the RM board.

nonsoroyalty:
U copied all this from the www.grup14.com website I posted right?
That's what am telling dmcdad
Don't underrate those boards they are devils u can't know what they did to alves that will make him want to leave

Yes and No. I knew some of them before but yes, I read the 2 links you posted there. Chapters 1 and 4.

homesteady:
From what I've read about this Alves issue -
Alves wants a 3 years contract with high pay and The board are not willing to agree to his terms!
I kind of support the board, Alves is 32 years and has less than 2 more years of football in him, so why give him a 3 years contract with high pay?

Alves knows we are in a tight position,( transfer ban, under performing Montoya and Douglas), so he is using it to his advantage! I read that during his presser, he said if he leaves, Montoya and Douglas are there! I'm sure he was just mocking the board!

I read a comment where the person said that - Alves is using this as revenge time for what the board did to Abidal.

I once read where Dennis Bergkamp advised young players to demand what they could whilst still playing because everything would change when the clubs don't need you anymore. Word has it that Bergkamp asked Ajax for £500K per year salary as a coach and they said it was too much yet only 2 or 3years ago if he had asked for £5M they would have given it to him without hesitation.

Only few weeks ago, Mancity gave Yaya Toure €1M to mark his birthday. Yaya had complained that he didn't get a cake from the club and to prove to him that he is important they did something big this year. That's respect.

Daniel Alves has been very important to the success of Barça since 2008. He had been the best RB in the world for sometime and is very instrumental in maintaining team chemistry and balance due to his very sociable persona. For his many contributions he doesn't need to remind the board about how to value him. It doesn't need to be a long contract. They can give him a generous bonus for his contribution whilst tabling the 1 or at most 2 year extension on his contract. That's respect.

There are different ways to show respect and every player can tell when they are valued by a club. Xavi was offered a 3 year contract that he turned down. He would've been 38 by then so how is a 32 year old asking for more than a year extension so egregious?

The fact remains that we do not have all the dynamics. We can only speculate. A 3year contract is too much but giving him a bonus, to me, is not out of place, especially for his past contributions. I also do not think Alves has any issues with the team, nor are his complaints directed at his fellow players. So I don't see where the team chemistry gets infringed. Alves said he is 200% committed to the team but not so much to the board. That's clear enough.

philfearon:
The gift of Understanding is a virtue!

You were being sarcastic. I was showing you how misplaced the sarcasm was.

philfearon:
^^^The coach wanted Suarez and Rakitic,but the board didn't buy them..
-Laporta would not have been happy to buy Neymar Neymar.
-Laporta was renewing Messi's contract yearly,and this current administration are e-diots for doing same.
-the clubs debt profile that was around €500m+ in 2009,but has been reduced to within €200m is a fraud,and Forbes and Deloitte and Wikipedia and Uefa are all liars!
- the current board are devil incarnate and they even forcefully pushed out one of their own(FabregAs)..
- the current board is so silly they bought two goalies that are not even world class...
This current board are thieves,liars,conmen,treacherous and dont want anything good for barca..

1. The coach didn't ask for Suarez. Madrid opted out because of his world cup antics and Barça needed to make a big signing before the transfer Ban. The coach did ask for Rakitic but he was cheap so they gleefully obliged. How about Matthieu and how much they really coughed out for him?

2. Nobody is against Neymar's signing. What is being contended is the duplicity that was involved. It caused us a big fine and eventually cost Sandro his job yet prior to that he insisted he did the right thing. They bribed Neymar's dad with €10M in 2013.

3. This board refused to review Messi's contract. Don't be fooled by what you read online. Sometimes read through the comments of Cules on credible websites. You'd see that Messi's resolve made them review the contract.

4. The debt profile claptrap you are referring to was Sponsored by Rosell and his minions. Laporta left a healthy Barca managing the baseball, basketball teams etc effectively. Rosell cancelled the baseball team that cost us only €300K a year, yet he spent over €2M to create a beach soccer team that only lasted one year. Rosell sold our Jersey to Qatar and lied it was for their foundation, only to let them splash Qatar airways on the shirt months later.

Rosell cancelled stadium renovation plans of Laporta that would have cost €250M (saying it was too expensive), only to budget €600M for the same thing 2 years later. Rosell planned to sell Messi as part of the plans to raise the money for the stadium. That is why Neymar was signed- to replace Messi. Rosell reasoned that we sold Luis Suarez (best player in the world at his time in the 50s and early 60s) to help fund Nou Camp so he could do same in this era, forgetting that we didn't win a league title for another 14 years after we sold him.

Rosell let Pep go but he lied to the media that he tried to keep Pep. He removed Cryuff as an honorary president of Barca and stopped under 8 children whose parents were registered members from watching free games. Perhaps the worst thing Rosell ever did in his lifetime was helping Florentino Perez to buy Figo. Rosell was instrumental (he was an executive for Nike) in making Figo opt out of his Nike contract so that he could sign for RM because the tradition of the club doesn't matter to Rosell. All he thinks about is MONEY MONEY and more MONEY.

I have serious reservations for him and his stunt double Josep Bartomeu.

I can't believe this write-up doesn't have 400 likes. FYI, GEJ spent 2.6 Trillion Naira on the subsidy not 1.7 or 1.4.

Datanet:
I am not the author. This was culled from Facebook and written by an Insider in one f the Oil Marketing Companies


NIGERIA'S FUEL CRISIS - WHY I BLAME GEJ

In discussing this very volatile issue, let me make one point very clear. I speak from a very informed perspective. This is not just one of those social commentaries.
I worked in the downstream petroleum sector for about 36 months as legal counsel and this was at the peak of the subsidy crisis. I handled and prepared critical documents, advised on transactions and participated in the subsidy scheme as a staff of the one of biggest indigenous players in the sector. I have a perfect understanding of the system from the point where these products are negotiated and bought from refineries abroad to the contract for their shipping....from arrival at the Port in Nigeria to the inspections and the final destination at designated tank farms, so I speak with authority. When the subsidy probe started, I also made several submissions to the National Assembly Committees and also was at the EFCC during the investigations.
Weak and reactive leadership is a disaster to any organization that has it. The hallmark of great leadership is the ability to identify risks and institute effective risk management systems. No organization in this world can survive uncontrolled hemorrhage of scarce resources.

UNDER PRESIDENT OBASANJO

The subsidy scheme became an issue under President Obansanjo. It was under him that the concept of petroleum importation became full blown. For reasons best known to the wily Owu Chief, our four refineries were left to rot while our country relied on fuel importation. That policy remained the biggest disservice former President Obasanjo did to this country.
However, as bad as that policy was under OBJ, there was still some level of sanity and control. At no time under OBJ did subsidy payments exceed 190 billion Naira annually. There were stringent measures that controlled the participation of companies under the subsidy scheme.
Just before OBJ left office, he sold two of our refineries to Dangote and Otedola, a measure that would have worked if fully implemented. It is beyond doubt that the private sector remains the best economic and commercial managers. Government is a cesspool of waste and corruption.

UNDER PRESIDENT YARADUA

When late President Yar'adua took over, he rode on a staccato of uninformed voices to reverse the sale of the refineries. He reversed the sale but did nothing to bring the refineries back to work. He continued to run the subsidy scheme and kept the restive sanity in the system. As at the time Yar'adua died, Nigeria's subsidy burden was about 230 billion Naira per annum.
Now for the uninformed, the petroleum subsidy scheme is a system where the federal government, on a bid to reduce the cost of fuel paid by Nigerians chooses to pay the difference between the landing cost of petrol imports, the prevailing price of the commodity at the international market and what is actually sold in Nigeria.
For instance, if the landing cost of petrol in Nigeria is, say, N 115, and after adding lightering charges and other logistics costs, the price of petrol should be N147, the federal government asks the marketers to sell at N97 and decides to pay the marketers the difference per litre.


UNDER PRESIDENT JONATHAN

Now enter President Goodluck Ebelechukwu Azikiwe Mainasara Jehoshaphat Effiong Jonathan!
Under him, subsidy costs jumped from 200 billion Naira to over 1.2 trillion in the first two years of his government.
Why? What happened?
Did the population of Nigerian triple within that period or did the number of cars quadruple? Was there an industrial revolution?
The answer is simple. Again, I speak from an informed position.
Due to weak regulatory regimes, the downstream sector became an all comers affair. Every Tom, Dick and Harry entered the business. Companies with no verifiable addresses, no tank farms, no vessels, no financial structures, no bank guarantees all became fuel importers. It was a bazaar. It is only in Nigeria that such bizzare things can happen. Emergency millionaires were made in days. Time and space won't allow me to give you details of the unbelievable things that happened. Every top official of the federal government became an emergency fuel importer or middle man. Importation licenses were hawked openly. All you needed was for the PPPRA to give you a license to import. You could sell it for millions just outside the door.
Now there is a complex web that links the Petroleum Ministry, the DPR, thE Navy, the NPA, NIMASA,PPPRA, DMO, CBN and Commercial Banks in this fraud. Documents like the sovereign debt statements and the sovereign debt notes flew about and our money kept disappearing. From about 30 companies in the scheme, the number shot up to 300. Monthly, billions of Naira were paid out to people who have never had any contact with a Jerry can of fuel in their lives. No verification, no authentication, nothing. Money was being paid with reckless abandon. Dr Okonjo Iweala and Mrs Alison Madueke were all there watching!
It got so bad that some people will arrange with ship owners......take a two day hire of an empty ship, move it to Lagos Port, berth it there. Officials of the PPPRA, Petroleum Ministry, DPR will come there to inspect an empty vessel and certify that the empty vessel carried 10,000 metric tons of petrol, collect their money and walk away. The vessel simply sails away and three weeks later, close to 6 billion Naira will be paid as subsidy when not even a single drop of petrol was brought in.
It was when the government saw that it could no longer sustain that level of waste that GEJ made that attempt at removing subsidy which was stoutly and rightly rejected by Nigerians.
If you recall, the call for the probe of the Subsidy fraud didn't even come from the Presidency. GEJ never called for any probe. Neither did Alison Madueke nor Okonjo Iweala. The call for probe was triggered off by the submissions of Senator Bukola Saraki on the floor of the Senate when he took time to tell the sad story of the biggest fraud in modern Nigeria called FUEL SUBSIDY.
Nigerians should ask GEJ to tell us how our subsidy burden jumped from 200 billion to 1.4 trillion in two years.
Between 2008 and 2013, the PPPRA was about the most corrupt government office in Nigeria. People who worked there lived like Emperors. They spent dollars like there was no tomorrow. Only the privileged found their way there. Each time I went to their office in Abuja then, I left with a heavy heart. This country is in serious trouble.
The only time sanity came to that sector was when GEJ brought Reginald Stanley, former Group General Manager of PPMC who also headed the London Branch of the NNPC into the picture. Reginald Stanley cleaned up the PPPRA, redeployed close to 80% of the workers and rejigged the subsidy program. It was then discovered that more than 60% of the funds paid as subsidy in the last three years were paid wrongly and fraudulently.
That was when the subsidy probe started. Out of the over 300 companies that were collecting subsidy, it was found that not up,to 30 were really importing fuel. Close to 700 billion Naira were stolen in the subsidy scheme. Till date, not a single person has been convicted.
Again, throughout the five years that GEJ ran this country, not one single attempt was made to even find out what is the problem with our refineries.
And yet, people say I shouldn't blame GEJ!
Who should I blame?
My father.....in his grave?

Rad1cal:
Odeson, this was an election for only APC members, yet Amaechi could not rally in droves his APC lovers in Rivers State to proof cretins like you right that he is very popular.

Talking about violence , The polls were peaceful simply because there was no contest even within the APC, the APC is known to very violent if there is a stake notwithstanding foes, be it intra or inter party



http://www.africanexaminer.com/violence-erupts-in-apc-rep-primaries-in-mushin-ifakoijaiye/


Double SHAMEEEEEEEEE on retarrrds like you.

Dumbo. LG elections never garner as much followership as the presidential or gubernatorial.

elohorayodele:
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Small small de twist facts. Letter was written in September and leaked to obj and the press in November of the same year. Where did your six months come from?

Your issue is whether it took 6 months or 4 months? LOL or what?

Rad1cal:
Where is Eruditor Eru-d-turd who believes Amaechi was too popular for APC to lose Rivers state.




Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!

I don't understand. Is Amaechi vying to be a local government chairman? Is Amaechi now INEC? Should Amaechi have forced people to go out in the rain to vote for APC?

LOL, what should stir reflections in people's minds is how that as soon as PDP do not participate in any elections we do not hear news of killings or violence. Or how that Amaechi and co, didn't go on to write results giving each ward 10K votes and then paying Self-disrespecting dumb hacks like the poster above me to come and lie to Nigerians that MILLIONS voted.

Rad1cal:
Eruditor Eru-d-turd Post






You are about to get mauled and you dare put a smiley


Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha !!





The only ejit here is you who has simply refused to eschew all forms of academic !mbec1lity.

You statistics can only be valid when it borders on numbers of ELIGIBLE voters and not just numbers of REGISTERED voters cos not all registered voters were ELIGIBLE to go out and vote in 2015.

Take this lesson to heart and don't falter again piglet.




Your points are embarrassingly too weak and passive.

More PVC's distributed is strictly governed by the number of registered voters and collection was influenced by numerous factors which can't be directly linked to voters enthusiasm.

Only a dumbo will reason like you. Let me further puncture your point using Imo State who had a 94.70% PVC collection rate of about 1.7M but actual voters were just 43% just like other SE states.

Your violence excuse can only be admitted with respect to the guber polls and not the Presidential



Another avenue to school you properly again. Following your useless logic, should we comfortably say

Oyo state with a 68% PVC collection rate of about 1.6 , having D-day voters percentage of 57% is a fraud simply because:

a) Kano State with an 82.64% PVC collection rate amounting to 4.1M only recorded D-day voters outing of 53%

b) Kaduna State with an 93.17% PVC collection rate amounting to 3.2M only recorded D-day voters outing of 52%

Should we also consider Jigawa 61% a fraud simply because other Northern states in excess of 92% PVC collection rate had actual D-day voters maxing out at 57%

Your logic only appeals to reprobates like you.



Stop repeating this trash.



You have obviously ran out of lame and stale insults; events have even shown that your trashy invectives only portrayed you as an intellectual scumbag who uses insults to mask his innate dumbness.

Your next response should be intellectually tasking and engaging, i hate to constantly school you despite your fraudulent arrogance


Your attempt at answering my simple question below is a very big failure. You just suck dude.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha !!

1. First off, LOL. What made registered voters ineligible to vote? What made eligible voters unable to vote? Are they related? The stock-in-trade of an intellectual fugazi- Comparing apples and grapes or throwing dust and hoping one particle sticks. Not on this turf. You failed miserably today.

2. PVCs collected can't be linked directly to voter enthusiasm? Hahahahahahahaha! You shouldn't have been born. The world doesn't deserve you.

3. You are not puncturing my point with Imo, you are buttressing them for me. Violence, intimidation, voter apathy caused the drop in the total cast votes UNLIKE in Jigawa. Hahahahahaha! You are so dimwitted.

4. Retardeen, Oyo and Kano represent good voting patterns. A close proportion of those who collected PVCs went on to vote. This is why Jega was right in insisting that the elections could work well with any % of those who collected PVCs than against 100% collection (which Goatluck Jonadunce and his fellow charlatans wanted) that never leads to an equally high voter turnout.

If you have 100 registered voters and you distribute 98 PVCs but only 45 collect them (Feb 7) yet you insist that the whole 98 collect them. 50 more people might be coerced to come and collect the PVCs (February 21) but at the end of the day just about 22 -33 of them may eventually vote. 33/45 is fairer than 73/ 84 that PDP riggers and apologists want us to accept as good elections. Especially when we factor in how low the voter turn out was as reported by the local and international observers as well as the intimidation, killings and just general voter apathy.

If you cannot see this beyond plane view, don't overheat your puny mind. This sort of reasoning is beyond you and the unfortunate duo (especially the woman) that should have sh*t you out instead of birth you.

5. So giving me Kaduna and Jigawa and juxtaposing the election numbers just betrays the argument you are trying to pose and exposes you as the quasi-analysist that you are. In measuring central tendencies you would have external factors and close margins beyond which the figures will be questioned. 40, 38, 43, 52, 58, 47, 61, 29 can give an average of less than or equal to 50% which is the 2nd quartile or mean. 29 will be explained as highest voter apathy while 61 will be adjudged as highest voter enthusiasm. 65, 67, 68, 73 will be marked as red flags and investigated. The external factors will be then be brought in:

- did people largely turn out in open glare? No
- were there reports of intimidation? Yes
- were there reports of killings? Yes

Things like wars, bad weather etc. are the other external factors. Now when we consider that the 3 pointers above were predominant and common factors in the states with those high deflections of 65, 68 and 73. We can conclude that they were fraudulently conducted elections.

Someone should start paying up for this free tutorial.

Get a calculator and keep digging yourself further. You belong below the earth surface where you and your ilk of intellectual misfits can relate as the scums of the earth.

Rad1cal:
look at this filthy brain dead turd, you practically proved nothing here other than your jaundiced sense of reasoning

You have moved from your erroneous stance that only less than 50% of eligible voters actually vote to this lousy attempt of trying to justify nothing.


What is important and relevant statistically is the PVC collected and not numbers of registered voters. The earlier you you drum that into thick good for nothing skull the better for you.



Now factually prove why the above scenario of Akwa Ibom should be considered void using the template of Jigawa State, considering there are not set rules guiding the occurrence of both of them since they are exclusively independent of each other. Address it using the right percentage of 65% of Akwa ibom and not the 68% erroneously used by you.

It is now time to finally rout you off this thread for good and get rid of your stark idiocy once and for all.



Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

The bravado in his tone is waning now. A good time for me to join in the laughter.

1. I said it is a PROVEN statistical fact that ON AVERAGE less than 50% of the REGISTERED VOTERS go on to cast their votes. I have not changed from that stance. So stop confusing your idiocy and inability to comprehend things, with my position on different issues.

2. 61% of 96% is lesser in proportion to 65% of 94% especially when we consider the following:

- There was evidently greater voter enthusiasm in Jigawa than Akwa-ibom. More PVCs were distributed and collected.

- The spates of violence were unheard of or sparse in Jigawa than Akwa-ibom.

- Jigawa's 96% PVC collection number amounted to 1.75M of which only 1.01M in total cast their votes compared to Akwa-ibom's 94% which is 1.59M yet 1.03M people cast votes. This negates the widely circulated voter-apathy and places a red flag on the election results from that state. Especially when the number of accredited voters on the day does not tally with what Akwa-ibom or any of the other 2 "red-flag" states provided.

PS: What is relevant statistically is the number of cast votes. It is used to compare with either the registered voters or the number of eligible voters who collected PVCs. It helps to convey the pattern of voting nationwide for e.g, since Lagos had 5.8M registered voters and yet only 3.5M collected their PVCs. It was clear that Lagos would not have provided a high % turnout. In Jigawa for instance, a high % was expected going by the PVC collection rate and yet they polled just 61%. Now Akwa-ibom that had an almost equally high collection rate was marred by election violence which discouraged the voters from going out in droves( evidenced by the card readers/accredited voters), yet they polled 65%. This is an aberration.

I decided not to use invectives this time around. Don't like to strike a man when he is down.

elohorayodele:
Yeah that was a good thing, but he did a shoddy job on the whistle-blowing too, how can you tell the world money is missing and then you quote three different varying amounts. Incompetence! Rate him also on his true functions as a CBN governor too pls

I don't hold briefs for SLS but I need to clear the air on his supposed "varying amounts" of missing money.

SLS wrote a letter to GEJ saying that NNPC had not remitted $49B. He could have directed it to Deziani instead but you and I know she listened to only GEJ during her time as Minister. GEJ did nothing about the letter till 6 months later when it leaked.

A NA probe panel was setup in which he then declared the unremitted amount to be $20B at this point. NOI claimed it was $10.8B and not $20B. They (her and Deziani) claimed that $9.9B was used for Kerosene subsidy. SLS didn't refute it until the second meeting they held where he insisted it was $20B. At this point Deziani, MD NNPC and NOI had claimed no money was missing at all as they came up with different flimsy and unsubstantiated reasons for the absence of $20B.

SLS at no time had said $49B was stolen. He only started using that word "stolen" when Deziani and co claimed nothing was missing. That is why to save face NOI hired PwC to come and cook the books. Those one's for fear of losing their job, reputation and lack of cooperation from the various parties just settled that at least $1.48B was meant to be refunded.

Rad1cal:
I love taking epic ejits like you to the cleaners with simple hole punctures to your daft logic.

If you call 61% and 62% padded figures then i wonder what a retarrd like you will say about a state like Jigawa State with 61%.

PVC collected in Jigawa = 1.75M, total votes cast = 1.07M
1.07/1.75 = 61%

You are a very dense piglet. Go suck on your mama brain draining t!ts.

Just die already. Can any human being be this irredeemably cretinous and duplicitous? Can you see why I told you you cannot disconnect the registered voters from the cast votes? Jigawa had 1.8M registered voters of which 1.73M collected their PVCs- 96%. 61% of 96% (of registered voters that collected PVCs) is not anomalous. What is preposterous is when we see 73% of 84% (In Rivers), 67% of 84% (Delta) and 68% of 94% (Akwa-ibom). Especially when we consider how fractious and violence-laden both Rivers and Akwa-ibom were during the elections.

I spared your blushes by giving beat-down %'s of 71, 62 and 61, and you were obtuse enough to fall for it. You are a paragon of whimsical pseudo-intellectuals and I am more than willing to keep putting you in your place- under my foot.

Sajio:
still cannot imagine how this man Ameachi thinks? he single handily destroy the judiciary system of river state forgeting that a day like this will come hence he resorted to Imo... One thing is sure, Wike will definitely xpose all Ameachi loots. and Buhari should also be ready to kick start his fight against corruption from within his cabinets first b4 extending cos all his followers na THIEVes..

Amaechi destroyed the Judiciary in Rivers? Hahahahaha. You guys inhale stu.pidity and exhale intelligence.

Eruditor:
So Amaechi that is the outgoing governor, is trying to prevent Wike's inauguration? LOL.

Why in the world would he do that?

What does the outgoing governor have to do with the incoming? Amaechi has done his 8 years already. Try another lie.

Rad1cal:
Eruditor Eru-d-turd the cretin said.





Your post is usually 95% feeble and amusing insults while a meagre 5% goes for some intellectual input , am even generous with the 5% cos am about to rip into your cadaver-ed brain and splatter them to the earth where they should rightly be.

They are practically useless to you. Why burden yourself with them ? Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!







You agreed with me that PVC collected and not TVC as represented by the voters registers is the right tool to use in 2015 statistical analysis







Bwahahahahahahahahahah !! more irrelevant and m0ronic post starkly away from the topic of discussion

Why are you such a cry baby ? What is your age boy ?






https://i.imgur.com/2KDvIMD.jpg


BWahahahahahahahahahaha !! make una come sight this mega dunce ooooooo!!!

Just to school you again, when INEC tells you a state has 80% PVC collection , it means by their record, 80% of PVC meant for registered members of the state in question has been collected by their owners.

Son who did you inherit your stupidity from. Mum ? Dad ? or both of them ?.

I believe the last option is it.




That would have been the case if the election were held in Feb, 14 , 2015 with Lagos having just 39% coverage. Unfairness is when one entity is handicapped before an event and not waiting for the handicap to be established first before addressing it. My post stating this anomaly clearly cited Pre Feb election. Don't be a dull boy.

Chai !!!!! See as Erudaft dey jonse. Okon, come and che chumting oo!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha !!








Why won't you dismiss the links when they exposed you as a filthy turd

Eru-D-turd, JEGA insisted on PVC two weeks before the shifted poll

http://newswebexpress.com/no-pvc-no-voting-inec-insist/

A competent court of law threw out a case in favour of INEC on the use of card readers which the PVC is vital component of it.

http://www.punchng.com/news/court-rejects-application-stopping-inec-from-using-card-reader/

Eru-D-turd, can you feel me.







Eru-D-turd, the statement in bold is a big fallacy cos just three states cannot greatly distort an analysis involving 33 other states, moreso when the margin is not large.

A simple arithmetic i showed you earlier revealed that almost all states had an electoral outing of more than 50%.







Which stats did you use PVC or TVC cos i see you are a very poor student. Despite my free education, you are still performing below par.






You are not smart at all, but i won't fail to consistently smash your head where necessary.






Cry baby got dominated and he goes a tearful route.






Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!

A simple fullstop and you log out. And your st.upidity will be concealed.

Where do I begin to start retutoring you? For example if 33 states have on average 49%. Let me show you what the impact of 3 padded states can do to that %.

{33(0.49)+(0.71)+(0.62)+(0.61)}/36 =50%

3 states with padded figures, raised 33 other states by 1%. This margin is large and raises red flags to the supposed 3 states. Hence, the reason for the nationwide complaints for the outright cancellation of the results in those states.

I know this ploy of yours to force me to teach you free of charge while you take my analysis to get fodder from your paymasters. My benevolence has ended today.

That's why Dogs should not get involved in a cat fight. The Cat gets beaten severely and left with marks. But he will go around using the same marks received from the mauling to pose like he is a Tiger

How I hope this allegory doesn't pass you by. But it will. You are the SI Unit for Olodos. Remember?

So Amaechi that is the outgoing governor, is trying to prevent Wike's inauguration? LOL.

Why in the world would he do that?

Rad1cal:
Kindly shows us proof or shut up.



butt-licking Amaechi at every turn doesn't mean you have to lie.

Get in line. Stalker.

Rad1cal:
Who do we blame for your inability to digest simple facts while taking cognizance of standards to arrive at a factual conclusion, You are embodiment of the word !mbec!le.

The struck part of your post in bold sternly affirms my position that you are a very poor student in analytic scenarios . A fool like you should know that with respect to the 2015 polls, all prediction/extrapolation will come from a sample population of PVC collected cos they determine eligible voters.

You indulged in your pathetic stupidity by comparing unequal scenarios, the ejit in you failed to factor that a fraction of the population 0f 38% PVC owners will vote, subsequently leading to drastic turn out of the actual voters. your quote below just portrayed you as an as exuberant cretin , the 200K shy part exposed your shameless ignorance, cos the difference would be larger than that if the pre-Feb , 14 PVC data were used.



An election has to do with standards processes where all participating parties need to be treated fairly. A situation where party A has over 80% collection rate and party has just 38% can never be seen to be correct. PVC collected in Borno can't be directly compared to those in Lagos cos we assume they are equal and independent in their own rights.. Seeking to do that solidifies your position as an oaf.

You are very silly for exempting INEC in the distribution process. A situation where

1)At Feb, 18 JEGA acknowledge that about a million PVC weren't produced

http://www.thecable.ng/breaking-inec-yet-produce-1-million-pvcs

2) At Feb, 19, over 1 million people in Ogun were yet to get their PVC

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/02/over-one-million-voters-in-ogun-yet-to-get-pvcs-says-amosun/

3) Where some states PVC erroneously found their way to wrong destinations

https://www.nairaland.com/2155636/cross-river-pvcs-accidentally-taken

4) A case where PVCs were handed over to electoral unconstitutional agents like traditional heads to distribute in the North while the normal frustrating bureaucratic processes were experienced down south

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/movie/165796/3/the-jegas-pvc-lopsided-distribution-plot-exposed.html


Based on the statistics of 2015 eligible voters represented by the numbers of PVC collected per state, the average rate of electorates who exercised their franchise exceeded 50%. I don't need to consult JEGA to know that cos unlike you, i can actually reason properly

If you believe that going into elections with about 61% of disfranchised population of the electorates is very okay, i must concede that you are very dull beyond all measures. Please accept my condolences as you utilize what is left of your cadaver-ed brain.



I await another m0ronic response from an a.ssbite like you



Bwahahahahahahahahahaha !!

I can't keep replying the horsesh*t that you are unfortunate to keep vomiting. And with each successive post, you keep exposing yourself as a hack and a hapless charlatan.

Let me teach you something about reasoning that 7 generations of your god-forsaken family cannot acquire in 15 lifetimes. If you have 100% PVC distribution, it is virtually the same thing as having all the registered voters in tact. So the elections will still narrow down to the actual electorates- those who have the PVCs and EVENTUALLY go on to vote. The stats show that they are ALWAYS less than 50%.

Lagos had 5.8M registered voters. If the PVC distribution and collection was 100%, the stats still state that not more than 2.9M people would have still gone on to cast their votes, so when only 38% of the PVCs were distributed which is 2.2M voters, Jega was working with the range of the number of electorates who still go on to cast their votes. Jeez.

I know you are dense and gravely obtuse, but even someone with your Helium-atomic weight sized IQ should understand the above.

It is a good thing you were able to quote my post even when I had modified it almost as soon as I made it. PDP hacks rig elections in real time and still stoop low to use multiple accounts to view posts on NL. You are a petty ball of f.oolishness and a perfect example of why babies born as drooling oafs should be murdered on sight.

And this pathetic attempt to keep conflating PVC collection to PVC distribution only shows why you are evidently your mother's biggest mistake. If 80% of the PVCs needed in Borno gets to Borno it doesn't translate into 80% of the PVCs collected in Borno. The actual collection rate would be less than that. That is why you cannot blame Jega if more impoverished Borno residents had time to collect their PVCs as against their Lagos counterparts that are doing reasonably better.

An unfair electoral process would have been one in which, due to the unavailability of the PVCs, a state with a greater number of registered eligible voters produced far less numbers in terms of Total votes cast than another with far less number of eligible voters. If you can adduce any proofs to support this claim then you would have a case. Sadly, you don't as Lagos and Borno has clearly shown such that Borno's 80% didn't even produce up to half of Lagos' 62%. And one unrepentant dolt on NL thinks he has a bone to pick.

To add to this, all those links you are providing mean absolutely nothing to the discourse. Sometime in late 2014, the NA had already acquiesced in Jega's proposal that if the PVCs were not appreciably distributed in all states then the Temporary voters card would have come in handy. But because a clueless f.ool was hell-bent on postponing the elections he ignored all these hard facts and forged on to postpone his own evil day. The f.ool lost and his apologists are still bereaved till date.

I told you severally and I would still say it again: using TVC to PVC ratio doesn't cut it because it is statistically inconsistent. Everyone with a PVC could go on to vote same way everyone with a PVC might not. I had a PVC, but I didn't vote. Some states TVC to PVC % was less than 50%. Edo, Ebonyi and Imo readily come to mind. So if you add mega-rigged figures like Rivers, Delta and Akwa-ibom to the mix, you will get your padded up above 50% on average figure. If you're not intelligent enough to know that fact, then you probably should not be replying me.

The statistics that can NEVER change is that on average just about 38% of those who actually registered to vote will eventually do so. No padding up figures is needed. Take any state's figures and calculate it and you would come up with the same number. There were 70M registered voters in Nigeria. 38% of that is 26.6M which is approximately 27M. GMB had 15+M votes. GEJ had 12+. Other minuscule parties had 1+ collectively which adds up to 28+ obeying the statistical facts.

But look at your own analysis: one state 43% TVC to PVC ratio, another state 40%, another 48% and another 71%. Is this the sort of inconsistency you want to debate with me with?

You are the posterboy for rank olodos, the C-in-C of pseudo-intellectual republic, a mendacious knave, suicidal dimwit and the SI Unit for underestimated buffoonery and idiocy. I am sorry I ever engaged you.

CAVEAT: The headline is sensationalized. Rivers received that amount as FA not from ECA!

It is too clear that there are alot of nincom.poops on NL. Rivers state receives the second highest federal allocations from government revenue. Every f.ool should know this.

Secondly, Amaechi was not given 257B once, the way some ediots are chanting it. The state was given 257B in 10 months which translates to about 25.7B a month. I find this hard to believe but let us work on the premise that it is true. This was between January of 2013 to October 2013 when he was still in good terms with the FG. Sometime that same year, things changed and state allocations reduced. Infact, in 2014, Rivers state received 93B in the first 6 months which is on average 15.5B a month and I heard Ameachi say that the latter 6 months of 2014, Rivers received 12B a month.

If People are so keen on knowing how Ameachi spent 25.7B a month between January- October 2013, we need to know how large the states wage bill is, if he disbursed monies to the LGs, if he serviced loans, if he built infrastructures and if he maintained old ones.

It is clear as day, that he did all these and more. Meanwhile the least Akwa-ibom would have received between January-October 2013 is 390B. I wonder why it wasn't brought up as well?

patrick89:
amechi led group sued Fg and okonjo, forcing them to share it and they did!!

Puerile garbage. A group of people have a joint account yet every now and then the money in the account keeps dwindling. What will you do if you were one of the members of the joint account?

patrick89:
see analysis.. Did you know when minimum wage was increased? Did you know when bokoharam insurgency appeared? Did you know how much ASUU, Labour unions that demanded increment in their wages!

Go and sit down somewhere!

Minimum wage was increased 2011. BH insurgency existed since 2009 at least and GEJ did nothing about it till 2015. ASUU and Labour unions had demanded increases since 2009 and GEJ the liar and hopeless failure had acceded to their demands but never actualized it.

ASUU in 2013 required 9B to settle their grouse for the strike but GEJ turned a deaf ear to them and instead offered 7B to be used to organise the fraudulent CONFAB. SLS and the NGF headed by Ameachi where the one's instrumental in fixing the ASUU issue with commitments from the SWF and from CBNs pocket. Had nothing to do with Mr.clueless and the 52% of the budget he controls.

Rad1cal:
More noisy nibbling with fallacious blunders written all over your post. Let me educate you on a salient point that less than 35% in Lagos is different from 80% in Borno cos they are independent of each other. 35% is 35%, since we assume that all factors are constant.

I will continually drum it into your void cranium that PVC and not TVC should form any inference you have on the recently concluded election, simply because it was the deciding factor for eligible voters


You can never justify the low percentage in Lagos in Lagos before Feb 14, simply because their number exceed that of Borno.

As at feb 07, PVC collection in Lagos was 39% .




http://www.punchng.com/news/kano-kaduna-lagos-top-pvc-collection-list-inec/

My post below nails you as a fool who needs basic classes in comprehension skills.




Only an ejit will believe that 38% is good enough for elections to hold. Nairaland is a place where fools wear the garment of wisdom, am so disgusted i encountered one in you. .

I told you before. Just a simple (.), you can log out and you won't sound as obtuse as you currently do.

Look at the greatest f.ool on earth saying PVCs and not TVCs is a determinant, when it is clear to any right thinking human that the whole world could have their PVCs but only 2 people may end up going to vote.

If anyone refers to you as anything but a flesh of stu.pidity you should be offended. You take the cake, the oven and the whole bakery!

So let us use the Lagos 38% (and not 35%, you mendacious failure) you provided post February 14th. That number translates to 2.2M people which is greater than the 1.45M and 1.53M actual total number of cast votes in the presidential and gubernatorial elections respectively. Can you see why when I call you a dolt I am not doing you justice?

Now what is 80% of Borno's registered voters? 1.52M. Far far less than Lagos' purported 38% yet you and your irredeemably cretinous mind cannot figure that Borno poses no advantage over Lagos. So that talk of Jega favouring one state over the other falls flat in the face of logic. But we are not surprised. Your AKA should be denselyIllogical.

And what does PVC collection have to do with Jega? Will he go to people's houses and force them to go and collect their PVCs? How dumb can you get with all these illogic that flows effortlessly from your puny and deranged mind?

Go and ask Jega if the percentage of people that registered and those that actually voted in 2011 exceeded 38%. Even this year's elections were no different. The % every election official works with is usually around that 38% and even the March 28 and April 11 elections didn't deviate from that statistical norm.

Only a Mollusc-size brained drooling buffoon will argue that 39% is poor for elections when elections world over (except rigged) do not provide greater percentages than that. Your level of unintelligence should be rendered a crime in Nigeria. I mean it.

omonnakoda:
Me?

No vex. Saw a subsequent post and figured you were not a Tanoid.

omonnakoda:
That would be Excess crude account if it is still there,those are government funds. Not the same as Foreign reserves

I know what it is called. I asked you what became of it. What is it with these GEJ apologists and their diversionary tactics?

bushdoc9919:
1. Saudi Arabia has 11 million people. Norway has 11 million people. Algeria has 37 million people.

2.Norway has a very strong industrial sector...which also earns them extra cash.

3.Saudi and Norway are the No 1 AND No2 oil producers. Nigeria is number 8.

4.Nigeria has 170 million people and no strong industrial sector....especially heavy industry.(Norway has that well well.)



Even if we saved all the money...and fight corruption....we STILL won't have enough cash. That is why Nigeria must industrialize. Our resources are not enough to sustain us.

1. Nigeria sells crude at a price premium to Brent and Oman-Dubai. In other words our crude is more expensive.

2. Nigeria produces more crude than Algeria.

3. If Saudi and Norway can have FR to the tune of such valuations then Nigeria should have something way beyond 29.9B $. OBJ, left it at 62B $ before leaving even though he sold crude at less than half the price during GEJs time.

There's no excuse for the recklessness of GEJs government. C'est fini.

Rad1cal:
More trash, it was imbecIles like you who saw nothng wrong when terror ravaged state like Borno,Yobe and Adamawa had over 80% PVC collection rate while peaceful states like Lagos barely had 35% collection.



Yet cretins like you believed that JEGA was already ready for election in Feb, 14.


You musn't perpetuate your daftness at all cost.


Wike will win Rivers again, again and again. Deal with that pleb.

I told you kill yourself, your family members do not deserve to have an obtuse imbec1le like you using the family name.

PVC collections to the tune of 100% does not matter because less than 50% of those who register to vote eventually vote. I told you before and I would not tire to belabor it even if you keep regurgitating the same witless garbage.

If 100 people register, and 100 people collect PVCs, only about 10-45% will eventually vote. This is a statistical fact. So whether one state had 80% and another 35% it is immaterial.

Also, 80% of Borno might be less than 35% of Lagos' number, so save your bafflegab for your fellow cretins. I know you are an unrepentant and mendacious imp who would rather lose his ballz than say the truth but I want you to know today that some people on here will continue to expose you for the fraud that you are. Lagos achieved 62% distribution rate according to INEC.

http://www.naij.com/387240-inec-releases-latest-pvc-distribution-details.html

If Wike will win Rivers, he should be my guest. Let him just do it devoid of the killings and intimidation. Till then, keep being worthless.

omonnakoda:
Foreign reserves are not savings ,They do not belong to the government . They belong to every person who has a naira note in their pocket or account and that is why you expect to be able to exchange those naira notes for those dollars

LOL. We benchmarked crude at less than 50$ per barrel and sold it for more than 115$ for more than 2 years. The Excess of more than 64$ per barrel should have been SAVED. Or was it? And what happened to that savings?

bushdoc9919:
In addition, borrowing for recurrent expenditure is a common thing amongst oil rich economies....especially when the oil price falls.

We have been down this road before....back in the 1980's.

It is a lie. When Oil prices go high, countries save so that when they go low they would have reserves to help augment revenues. Saudi Arabia and Norway both have more than 800B $ stored in their FR. Algeria has over 100B $. But Nigeria under GEJ has just 29.9B $.

That is the problem.

bushdoc9919:
All good ideas....that will lead to the removal of the government.

Because unfortunately due to our oil dependent economy., we do not have a vibrant private sector that would have absorbed all them sacked staff.

(Yes JJ Rawlings did it in the 1980's in Ghana...and people suffered. But the economy improved!).

As for removing the subsidy....it is a good idea....but sadly most Nigerians only see the price at the pump....not the long term savings that would have been made.

Your ideas are good......but this is Nigeria.Good does not work here at all.

LOL @ long term savings. You guys never cease to amaze me.

I thought they removed subsidy on diesel? How's the Diesel market now? Any cheaper than before? LOL. I thought Yar Adua instructed that Subsidy on Kerosene be removed? What do we have today? The same people have turned around to claim they spent 9B $ on the same product a president said should no longer be subsidized.

This is the fact: if they remove the subsidy, there would still be no savings. The same FG will loot it all and leave the hapless masses to pay through their noses for the same product whose price will never go down as AGO or diesel has shown us.

Meiji:
Actually it's not clear "to the biggest critic" what the Lagos State government has done with the borrowed funds. Didn't the Lagos State government also benefit from high crude oil prices, like everyone else? Why has the Lagos Metroline not been completed (despite promises that it would be finished by June 2013)? Isn't that an example of failed promises?

You talk about "borrowing to pay salaries". What about Ogbeni Rauf and Rotimi Amaechi that haven't paid their workers? What do you have to say about that, Demdem?

I'm not trying to defend this administration (it has had many failures). My point is that we need to stop this partisan agenda of painting Jonathan as the sole problem with Nigeria. APC state governments also bear a large part of the blame for the collective mess the country is in.

All state governments share 26% of the total revenue. ALL state governments. The FG gets 52%. I mean 52%.

Rad1cal:
Ejit, people have jobs and businesses to tend to and those rallies are usually during week days and the peak of business activities . It's glaring you revel in your stupidity to stupor, were you expecting people in excess of hundreds of thousand to grace political rallies ?


Can someone close to you please apply brute force using a jagged cudgel to rejig you to sanity.


You are obviously dumber than the word dumb.



Bwahahahahahahaha

Hopeless dolt, in Rivers for example, the spates of killings and violence scared the electorates from going out to vote yet the voter turnout was better than atleast 33 other states that were relatively calm.

The people who had work to tend to on your convention days decided to put their lives on the line to give you 1.48M and 1.1M votes respectively?

Take my advice and put a noose on your neck. This sort of barefaced idiocy you parade should make you suicidal.