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Chiaka is a troll. Don't feed the troll.

Amaechi didn't contest for any position. He has governed Rivers for 8 years with tangible results to show for it.

He challenged the status quo in the then ruling party who were hell-bent on wrecking Nigeria.

His name will forever be etched in the History of Nigeria as one of the Field Marshalls of change. He is now greater than any SS governor in the History of Nigeria and he has trumped GEJ (a former President) seeing that he was strategic in his ousting.

I speak for majority of Nigerians when I say we are proud of Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi, the Lion of Ubima!

prelinctus:
Hmmn. So scoffield is your first and true love. You just used eruditor to pass time. Poor Eruditor.

But Eruditor is not poor. He has billions...

















of Zimbabwean dollars!

Ibime:
Mumu the reason JM is better than Wenger is because Wenger has never beaten Mourinho in over 10 attempts.

The same Mourinho walked into EPL in 2004 and completely crushed Wengers Invincibles who were the best team in EPL and even Europe at the time.

Wenger took a team that were unbeaten in over a year and started bowing rankadede to Mourinho.

Even with lesser players, Wenger knows JM is his master.

It is not JUST because Wenger has never beaten him. It is because Mou has won more times. After all, some of the games including the most recent one was a draw.

And again Mou and Wenger played twice with the squad that was unbeaten. 2-2 and 0-0. In both games Arsenal dominated and CFC played for the draw. Nothing crushing about Chelsea with respect to that unbeaten team.

So try again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328182/Jose-Mourinho-special-Andre-Villas-Boas-failed-Tottenham--Adrian-Durham-column.html

homesteady:
I'm happy we are not meeting Madrid, not that I'm afraid they'll win us oh, but I don't want to take any chances!

Their aerial play makes me to cringe, will Piqué and mash be able to cope with their aerial bombardment for full 90 minutes!

Seconded.

pamcode:
you are am barca fan bro,right?

Yea...the unbeliever there is in relation to Coded's false prophecy. Lol

coded01:
As for those unbelievers...


Barca vs Real Madrid...UCL Final...


I said it repeatedly that it's destiny!

I was an unbeliever. I am happy I was

barackohandso:
No we didn't. We finished 3 points behind Atleti

Yea, you are right. We needed to win them to equal the points tally they had and we didn't.

honeric01:
We had equal error last season yet we didn't get to the finals? 4points ahead of the La liga and in the cup final? you mean last season and the season are the same?

Like i said on the frontline, the only changes i see remain the gelling that finally came, there is nothing new at the front that hasn't been tried before. the gelling was what was lacking, hence the misunderstanding between the midfielders and the forward line.

I am showing that the difference between last season and this season is so little, we could have easily done the double last year.

In other words, those things like gelling, playing this player in this position, reducing rotation that you call "little errors" is the difference between our nearly season and this epoch-making one.

honeric01:
Suarez still plays on the right side, even yesterday he did when the formation changed, you need to look closely to see this.

that first goal should give you a better understanding.

on paper, hes seen as the CF, but when they play, he swaps position with Messi countless times..

When Messi drives in from the right to the middle, he immediately switches from middle to right.

what they had then was "gelling issues", now that they are through with gelling, you hardly see the "errors" you pointed out. tiny things changed!

Whenever Messi drops deep it always appears like Suarez is on the right but he is not- not anymore. He is now the registered CF. You don't expect a mobile team like Barca to have static players, that's why it appears like Suarez plays on the right. To check if your assertion is right watch the RM game at Santiago and the replay at Nou Camp. Suarez was the one tracking back to assist Alves to mark but in the reverse fixture and even yesterday, Messi was the one doing that.

And when you talk about little errors you need to realise that Barca since 2008 have only always had "little errors". Remember we had equal points with the La Liga champions last season and we lost by the odd goal in the CDR final. That was nearly a double

dearpreye:
Brilliantly captured. I'm particularly obsessed with point 3. Ivan Rakitic. He's a huge improvement on the lazy Fabregas. He's brought a lot of physicality to our midfield. He's also more of a box-to-box midfielder. I also think he's largely responsible for point 5. We have become more direct because of Ivan Rakitic.

Every other point is valid. It's hope we win another treble to cap what's been a fantastic season.

Thank you for your contribution.

In fairness to Fabregas we rarely deployed him in the role Rakitic currently plays. For the most part Fabregas played as a false 9 in some matches and an 11 for the most of the remainder of the other times. I saw a comment attributed to Bourinho where he said Barca didn't use Fabregas well. Same way with Ibra and maybe Alexis Sanchez.

Doesn't matter now. The results don't lie.

honeric01:
We defend more from set piece than before, if you don't see this, then there is a problem somewhere.

We concede less arm ball in the are, we concede less PK in the area, we now press higher and deeper, the midfield has learnt how to cover up than before, the front line know understands eachother better, they are now fitter and sharper e.t.c

I can't help you see what you don't want to see. if you feel these aren't true, then what more can i say?

You missed my point. Lucho started out trying to fix these things (the emboldened) you are talking about and off late (apart from yesterday) we have seen the necessary improvements so that's not what we complained about.

He rotated the team endlessly and few times without need (especially the front 3). He was slow to react when other manager's changed their tactics and sometimes it worked against us. Yesterday and Sevilla come to mind.

He played Suarez on the right and the midfielders never tracked his run on many occasions or they simply went for the more conservative and safe pass. Remember when people wanted Daniel Alves gone by all means because of his failed crosses and putrid performances? He got his defensive pairings wrong in the group stage game against PSG. He changed from all these to the mix of counter-attacking and tiki-taka which we now enjoy and with a more predictable line-up. Not the early days when the Barcelona B grads like Rafihna and co were starting important matches.

The keyword is that he changed.

Why is Casillas being blamed? Madrid don't defend well. It's an open secret.

diggz:


Lwkmd...You are a complete clown. Next time dont even bother about quoting and steeewpidly typing ignored bcuz dat way u are doing the opposite DOT!

*Ignored*

diggz:
U are a complete olodo..! For someone like u who has only the number of useless NL post to show for as an achievement in life, how den will u appreciate the efforts of genuine achievers of this world?

So Inter as a fluke conveniently thrashed ur superstar team over two legs? Chelsea was a fluke but even with ten men ur superstar team plus god messi cud not do jack against dem home and away. Porto was a fluke and they won it wit unknown players and also won europa cups too. Should we just conclude that ur team,coach and god messi was uber useless if flukes kept on dealing wit dem?

Also, If I can remember clearly one of the flukes in the name of deco ended up playing for u guys.

Abeg wen will u achieve somfin significant asides leading the chart of DOTS..!?

*Ignored*

honeric01:
Is it the criticism that made him grow all the attributes some said he lacked?

just give me straight forward answer.. i am not in for long sermon as you can see from my previous comments.

What attributes?

Does he react to the opposing manager's on-the-spot tactics better now?

Do we defend setpieces better?

Do we score more from setpieces than ever?

JigsawKillah:
I was only trying to make a statement when I said MATCHED. Pep got his record broken, Mou got his matched.

your own problem is that even with the truth placed in front of you, you still deny it, are you a roadside policeman?

You see what Fergie did with Manyoo? started from the bottom like Drake, ended at the top like PAC. then you see Mou, took them to the UCL summit and won it. went to Chelsea, delivered their first EPL title in half a century. went to Inter, a team ruling domestically, but considered a flop in Europe, he made them kings. went to Madrid, he took a team losing to Lyon to 3 straight semis.

the Madrid's case was light, due to the fact that he had a player like Ronaldo, he should have won it. But at Inter, they were all average players. ask Keky why taking a team made up of average players to UCL victory is impossible, he'll direct you to Wenger.

yes, Dayo is better than Guardiola.

Mou didn't destroy Kaka's career.

Sneijder average, Etoo average, Cambiasso average, Milito average. Men, I tire.

If someone asked you who is better between Mou and Wenger you would rush and say Mou. If you are asked why, you would say, he has won more trophies, he has beaten Wenger more he was won the UCL etc. Fine.

If I use the same criteria for Pep and Mou, you change the standards and start asking me if I am in the Nigerian police. Lol.

Are we now celebrating illogic?

I should best listen to Keky and Dayo.

timbros:
More like "four (Napoli, Barca x2, Bayern) unlikely chance occurrence, especially four surprising piece of luck". That's the meaning of fluke, abi? Play back ANY of the UCL winners season 10 times and see if ANY of them can win it 10 times again. I mean, which kind of silly logic is that?

I honestly don't know why I keep replying you. Honestly.

Btw were you not the one that made this quote? How did I edit it?

RM will win the 2002 UCL again and again. Same with 2014. Barca in 2011 and 2009. Bayern of 2013. Inter of 2010 was a fluke. Same with Porto of 2004 and Chelsea of 2012.

If Usain Bolts develops a hamstring injury whilst running and Asafa Powell wins the 100M dash won't you regard it as a fluke?

You keep wondering why you reply me yet you keep replying me. I told someone else to, but I think you should do same and argue with your mirror.

NB: I read your post wrong. I thought I saw League and FA Cup. You do realise Pep has won 5 trophies in the last 2 seasons? Between 2008 to now who has more trophies between the 2? Whose head to head record is better? Whose style of football revolutionized the way the game is played? Who has inflicted the worst scoring record on who? Whose team is regarded as the best team of his generation? Was that team regarded as that before him?

I rest my case.

honeric01:
So protest made the man suddenly grow what he doesn't have?

After Pep left, haven't we had other coaches? why didn't they get us to 3 finals?

Can you give what you dont have?

Can you use protest to force a goat into becoming a dog?

Funny comments lolz

Bro, let us be fair Lucho is a good fitness coach. He has kept the team fit for the most part and that aspect cannot be taken away from him, together with the fact that he is on the brink of winning a historic treble.

But let us be fair to some of his critics (myself included), he did change and become more consistent with his team selection.

If you remember, part of our grouse with him was that he kept rotating the squad and the results weren't going his way. We heard about the alleged bust-up with Messi. We lost some games that we traditionally should not have lost and we were right to criticise him.

Let me give you a scenario. If a manager is being hounded continuously that he needs 4 new players but he insists that he doesn't yet he goes on to win nothing that first year then the following year he acquires the 4 players that he was advised to and he wins a treble, won't the critics be right to say the pressure they put on him instigated his success?

You do realise that Lucho changed? So the criticism, though sometimes exaggerated, is somewhat responsible for the change and that is an incontrovertible fact.

I am so relieved we went through. I made enemies on this thread because I expressed my trepidations. You guys may have to get used to it because that is how I support Barca especially as you all are aware I wasn't a fan of Luis Enrique when he was first signed.

After the 3-0 game at Nou Camp I was sure we were through. It doesn't matter who qualifies tomorrow. We look clutch for the title. I hope Juve knock RM out shaaa.

Forza Barça!

timbros:
Fluke: an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck. (www.dictionary.com)

Let me ask you Mr. Lecturer, so 4-1 vs Napoli is a surprising piece of luck? 1-0 vs Barca another surprising piece of luck? 2-2 vs Barca still another surprising piece of luck? Victory over Bayern in their own slaughter ground YET another piece of luck?

Have a handskake Mr. lecturer for that effective use of the word fluke.

SMH seriously for you. So I also edited the post you quoted? Now I know the kind of person I am debating with.

Someone who doesnt know that League Cup is the same as Carling Cup/Capital One Cup doesnt worth me time, energy and data.

Here is your own quote: "an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck". So I am re-iterating it that RDM won the UCL by a fluke. Which means 10 times after that he would never have won it. I mean replay that season over and over and Chelsea wont have won it. It was serendipitous. It was lucky. It was a fluke!

bigkesh:
nobody expected much from pep With henry, eto and messi Oga sleep

What had they achieved before Pep? 2 years they won nothing. Can you read?

bigkesh:
mourinho came third with porto Moronic..... lemme brief u a little, Mou took over leira in d relegation zone, had to leave his family behind cos d city wasnt suitable, went to brazil to shop for peanuts players, bought players for few thousands nd built a team that finished 3rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Porto that year finished 5th!!!!!!! He took over porto nd won two european trophies with a team of 75% portugese nd only 2 was good enough for d national team to get a call up..... M talking about a team with Benni Mccarthy as d cf, a player so poor a low spanish team loaned him to porto...... This is hustle, not someone with a silver spoon......



Everything Guardiola did, Enrique has done better in his first season..... More goals, better defence, more points in lesser number of games

Typical Chelsea fan: impulsive and bereft of reasoning ability. Do you want to bet Mourinho didn't finish 3rd with Porto his first season there? And when you find out you posted spittle will you accept calling you a M0r0n will be degrading to M0r0ns?

And before we talk about Enrique won't we let him actually win all the trophies? Won't we let him Coach at that top level for a sustained period or have we forgotten RDM so soon?

I know you are the typical Chelsea fan so I would give you some pointers to ruminate on.

1. Pep inherited a squad that finished 18 points behind the first team and 3rd place on the table. Enrique inherited a squad that finished 2nd with the same points as the first team.

2. Pep sold the best player of that team and achieved all he did without him. Enrique built his team around the best player (justified of course).

3. Pep's team was cheaper than Enrique's.

4. Nobody expected much from Pep. He exceeded people's expectations but Enrique is meeting the expectations people had for his squad comprising of Neymar, Messi and Suarez.

timbros:
Yea, RDM's UCL was a fluke yet he overturned AVB's 1-3 loss to Napoli and knocked off almighty Barca in the semis.

@bolded: go back and read my comment again, this time slowly. Then come back, cover your face in shame and edit your post.

Lol. How else would he have got to the final except passing through the quarters and semis? Do you by any chance know what the word "fluke" means?

Please do some research. You are exposing your pseudo-scholarlyness.

And don't be inane enough to forget that I quoted your whole post to prevent your editing ploy. If you can't own up to such a clear goof, what else will you own up to?

philips70:
Neconde actually acquired the 45% stake from the former operators (Shell and co) but NPDC as government representatives now turned the new operators because obviously Neconde do not have the technical know how and maybe other logistics to operate it. According to that Punch article, NPDC now in turn brought in other Nigerian middlemen who do not even have the funds to operate it and be making some millions of $ in shady manners. In my opinion even if GEJ will go scot free of all these, the frog eye woman must vomit enough and cool off in gaol for some years. Let's see if the Nairaland warriors will help her to escape the doom that awaits her.

Deziani was acting under GEJs instructions. She is as much a thief as GEJ permitted her to be.

jpphilips:
Let me ask you very important questions, before those oil blocks were transferred to NECONDE (Nestoil, seplat and co) (Jonathan & madueke by proxy), can you tell us categorically what SPDC complained was the reason for the sale??
Just to give you a little heads up, SPDC disposed most western operations asset with a deposit of an estimated 2b barrels, now can you tell us what the reason was for the sale??

Don't mind that paid hack. Neconde has only committed 300M USD to an asset that is valued at 2.1B USD yet Deziani ordered NPDC to concede the asset to them.

Neconde is a consortium of Nestoil and co with Obiejesie, the CEO, a very close friend of GEJ whose Private Jet was used to carry GEJ around in 2010/2011. He is the front for GEJ and Deziani.

Thievering Knaves!

philfearon:
The problem with u lots is that u think u know anything about football,but when u talk,u expose Ur ignorance!! How can a reasonable person post the jargon u posted up there?

Help me ask them.

JigsawKillah:
Pep made a record, Mou broke it! Tito only MATCHED it. Pep's and Tito's FCB had a huge advantage over Mou's RM. FCB was stable then and still is now, hence, it is easy to coach them. also included in their ranks are the world's most influential midfielders, at that time, in the form of Iniesta, Xavi and Messi. Anybody could win a league with them. Even someone as rètarded as Dayo will end up a champion.

Barca did nothing to chase Mou out of Spain, instead, Pep was hoping praying for a Fergie with FCB until Mou drove his heavy Mac trucks and crashed his party. People do have records, so Barca beating RM is no big deal. you can ask Man City why they could barely beat Burnley or ask Keky and Coogar why their respective teams can't withstand Swansea.

Mou had problems with the Madrid board, they criticised his ways. you see why Spanish league isn't getting as much views, is because most of the controversies there springs from either Barca or RM and recently Atletico.

Pep is good with already made teams and falls when he goes against teams with better players, while Mou can turn QPR into a force in Europe, that can defeat a team with the best players.

Mou is Better than Pep.

Utter Bafflegab.

When did anyone become less for MATCHING a record?

FCB was stable when? RM was unstable? Hahahaha. You swallowed the same smokescreen Mou fed you with. Before Mou got to Madrid Pellegrini had just finished with 96 points. 3 behind Barca. If that is not stable enough for Mou then nothing is. In his 3 seasons at RM he only beat that points tally ONCE.

As per Iniesta, Xavi and ladida...they were above average players before Pep. He made them the formidable and influential players that they were when Mou came. You can't tell us anyone could win with them. Barca were on the verge of selling Xavi to Bayern before Pep was signed. It was his vision that made them keep Xavi.

Mou destroyed KaKa's career and Rijkaard had those players for 2 years before Pep yet he won nothing. So is Dayo better than Rijkaard?

Pep hoping for a Fergie? Hahahaha. The same Pep that refused to sign more than a year's contract? Surely, there are better Mou admirers than this. Mou came to win a UCL with RM- La Decima. That was his task. He failed. Period.

He rode Fergie's d!ck. Sucked United Balls but they didn't give him the job. I wonder why?

Your last paragraph is the same rehashed bunkum Mourinho supporters keep vomiting. Barca was a team on the decline when he took over. They wanted stability for the first year and a push the following year. He won everything in his first season alone.

He went to Bayern that had won everything possible. They gave him 3 objectives. Win the league, the Cup and at least get to the UCL semi final. He achieved his task first season alone beating Juup's record in the league. That is consistency.

Mou came to Porto and finished 3rd before he won the league. He went to Chelsea and did really well his first season (achieving his objectives) but the team peaked during his second season and went downhill from thence. He never recovered and was sacked.

He inherited an Inter team that Mancini had won 3/4 league titles with. His only objective was winning the UCL and he did so his next season after buying 7 key players. He globetrotted to RM and you know the rest...

Mou is a great manager. But with the criteria that the best manager's should be and are judged on, he is behind Pep.

You can argue with your mirror.

timbros:
I decided I would not quote you again but some of your posts are just so irritating. Just reread that bolded and you will see how biased you are when analysing football.

The way Abramovich hires and fires coaches is as a result of what? Just for the fun of it? Or a high level of expectation? In Abramovich era, Chelsea have ALMOST an average of one coach per season.

You listing coaches that got fired after winning a trophy for a club and omitting RDM just exposes how biased you are. RDM won a double in 2012 yet he was fired. How else can you describe high demand more than this? Mourinho won the league cup and FA cup double in 2007 yet he was fired. You may say Avram Grant didn't win a trophy, but he took us to our first ever UCL final, played league cup final, came second in EPL yet he was fired.

What am I even saying? For someone that calls RDM's UCL victory 'a fluke', I don't expect much from you.

Please if you want to talk about demands/expectations, there is a certain thread called "Arsenal fans thread". Kindly go there and lecture them about it.

Thank you.

No, I listed coaches that did well a previous season and did reasonably well the following season (albeit not up to par with the previous one) and yet still got sacked.

Del Bosque- 2002 UCL, 2003 la liga (sacked)
Ancelloti UCL & Copa Del Rey 2014, 2015 2nd in the league, Semi UCL (European Super Cup and WCC) (imminent sack)
Pep Bundesliga, DFB-POKAL, Semi UCL 2014. Bundesliga, Semi DFB-POKAL, Semi UCL 2015 (Bad season)

If Pep had Mou's season last year, he would have been sacked.

And Btw, RDMs win was a fluke. He won on penalties after Bayern totally dominated the game. Moreso, his CFC team played utter garbage football and were in freefall before his sack.

Avram lost to Tottenham at the Carling cup finals? Your £300M pounds team? Should Brazil keep a manager that loses to Kuwait at the Confederations cup finals?

Mou won league and FA Cup double in 2007? Hahahahaha.

Is this who I am debating with?

JigsawKillah:
Pellegrini won with Mancini's team. Ancelloti did with Mou's team, what are you telling me? Name the players who played pivotal roles in Pellegrini's and Carlo's triumphs that weren't pivotal in the title winning squads in the said coaches predecessors.

if what Mou did in Spain isnt legendary, then tell me what is legendary. Pep never did garner 100 league points. that record has only been matched, not surpassed. if that isn't legendary, bros, tell me what is.

you haven't seen pressure. Ribery and Robben only meant Enrique will have problems organizing his back lines. I trust Robben, he'll throwaway 90% of his chances. But then, Boatank's burial takes place 19hours later.

Mou didn't do anything Legendary in RM. He won the league with 100 points. So what? The record was 99 points before he broke it and guess who set that record? Your guess is as good as mine.

The following year, Pep's assistant equalled Mou's record, proving to him that it was nothing to blow trumpets about.

In Mou's 3 seasons at RM, Barcelona won the league twice. The UCL once, Spanish Super cup twice and Copa Del Rey once. They beat Mou more times than he beat them and they caused him to run out of Spain before his contract was up.

So much for the "he ended Barca's dominance" piffle.

JigsawKillah:
this same moaninghoe usurped the rule of Barca with Madrid and Manyoo and Arsenal with Chelsea, then again Man City with Chelsea.

your Guardiola, only goes for clubs who've won their league at least twice in the last three

tell me who's better

how are the demands of Bayern way higher than Chelsea's? do you think Abramovich bought the club just to watch it go trophyless? is this hate or jealousy?

Wanton prevarications.

Dortmund won the league twice in the last 3 years before Pep came and RM won the la liga twice in the last 3 years too and were the reigning Champions before Pep.

Also, the demands at Bayern are waay higher than they are at Chelsea. Bayern, Barcelona and Real Madrid are in reality the biggest clubs in world football. LVG got to a UCL final with Bayern and was fired the following season even though he lost to Inter at the Quarter finals (the same team that beat him in the UCL final the previous year).

Juup won the UCL the season before Pep yet Pep has gone to 2 semi finals after that and his job is still uncertain.

Carlo Ancelloti won the UCL last season but there are clear insinuations that he would lose his job this season despite getting to the UCL semi final this year.

Del Bosque won 2 UCL titles with RM in 3 years. Lost in a semi final to Juventus the following year (2003) and was sacked despite winning the league.

The list is endless.

RDMs fluke title in 2012 has secured the jobs of any Chelsea manager for another 10 years. Mou can crash out to Bradford 4-2, 10-Man PSG yet some Chelsea fans will tell you he sacrificed those competitions to win the league yet they will remind you how Pep lost to Dortmund (on penalties) in the DFB-Pokal semi finals and how he is on the brink of being ousted by Barca. They won't tell you he lost his best players with his remaining players battling a loss of morale.

Don't they know that a club that blames any manager for losing to RM and Barcelona has higher demands than one that makes excuses for a manager who loses to Bradford and PSG?

sebod:
I tire for the guy really. Only if he can provide just a quote where his god has been eulogised as GOAT. Only to be giving flimsy stats.

This is sooo true.

You can find the odd one or 3 person's saying CR7 is better than Messi or that they prefer him to Messi. But you can NEVER find any person of note saying CR7 is the greatest of all times yet we hear that every so often about Messi.

Says alot if you ask me.

@ Chemali

Good one.