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Greatihex:
you will be a liar if you say that the value of a player is useless.


Yes, they can be over inflated a times, but generally ability is a big determiner of value.


Nobody in this world will sell hazard for 20m. So also, nobody will buy Adama traore for 100m

Value is comparatively useless that is my point. Mangala was 42M but he is useless. So don't bring NetSpend if a manager sells 9 players and buys 3 back. If he sold 9 useless players and bought 3 in return who were "expensive" but quality then he did the right thing. Finish.

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ReeLoaDead:
Why is is when I state facts you call it hate?
Reason objectively not emotionally.
Mou won UCL with smaller payroll teams like Inter and Porto and so he does not need to prove himself anymore. That said, I would agree that Pep is currently better than Mou. What is certain is that Pep has NOT won any UCLs with any of the big money teams he has managed in the last 6 years ... sorry if facts pain you but I am just merely stating them. Tell your king to win a UCL before I too start to hail him.

Your arguments are daft. Pep has 2 UCL titles and he played in the semi every year till he got to City. Mou signed players in his first season in inter and flopped. Then signed 7 more the year he won the UCL. It was also fluke-y. Barca deserved 2 penalties in the first leg and got cheated off a legit Borjan goal in the 2nd leg.

Pep always maintained that he came to EPL to dominate by playing his way, winning the UCL is prestigious but can never replace the role of league dominance. Zidane retired from RM and nobody rushed towards him because it is easier to win the UCL than a league title even though the UCL has more prestige.

City will go for the league and UCL next season. Have good excuses again when they win it. The rubbish about small teams is neither here nor there. If you win with small teams winning with big teams should be easier, no?

ZenHallewell:
He didnt wear a cast until news already broke out that his hand was injured.

Mr Windhurst the Lebronologist from Akron himself conveniently broke the news.

I hear you.

benji93:
Easy, no give yourself High Blood Pressure over lebron. Na someone tell am make him take hand hit stand. That was self inflicted, he was responsible for it. He was going to lose either way. Curry doesn't claim anything, his injuries are usually obvious, like rolling his ankles, and it's usually a second person that talks about his injuries before it goes viral. Again, until we get an official report on his rib injury, and the extent, i will assume he just couldn't handle Curry, he got owned mentally, better luck next time, and come back stronger. You might want to read Roland17's analysis, you don't seem to watch the games in full.

They are blitzing him but that is because they want the ball to be in someone else's hands. Problem is, the GSW D will not collapse except Damian and CJ are handling the ball so Stotts rightfully needs one of them to bring the ball up court. When he makes the right plays (which he has done mostly) the role players are free and hit their shots. They get the lead they want and all is right with the world. Problem is, you are playing averages. The shooting will go down to the mean and the blitzed players will get tired. Partly because he is out of rhythm shooting wise (as a result of giving up the ball) and also because they have to chase Steph and Klay on the defensive end. That is a huge task.

Someone lost a series and wore a cast at the press briefing and someone is talmbout did Lebron tell us he was injured.

Yes, TF he did.

simonjassy:
Aren't U people factoring in that during fergie's time all those midtable teams were no pushover.
i for one hated tony pulis's stoke city.

So if the league winner has 69pts, 2nd, 68pts, 3rd 67pts, 4th 66pts it means the league had more formidable opponents than the season where 2 teams had 98, 97 points and teams 3-5 are playing European finals simply because the top 2 teams beat the rest by a huge points gap?

So if the top 5 UTME scores in 2018 are 346, 345, 300, 299 and 296 they are less formidable than another year where the top scores were 280, 279, 278, 277, 276 since the points difference was less in the latter year?

larride:
You must be Ode.

You and who is saying this season league triumph is the toughest in the history of the league? That argument must be with your alter ego or in your dreams.

I don’t know how to explain this to you that you will understand because it seems your brain is in hibernation.

What’s the guarantee that both City and Liverpool will make 97/98 pts every other season? City made 100 pts last season, why didn’t they make 100 pts again this season? Or you think everything is static like your brain?

That is why when people who are well researched are talking you should STFU.

Every single pundit said so. There has never been a race like this in the entire EPL where 2 teams had >96points.

What is the guarantee that both teams will make 97/98pts next season? That is the stupidest question I have read on NL and this includes everything hens brain has ever asked.

City made 100pts last season and not this season?

Can someone else who can interpret fluent stupidity help me out? What does it have to do with anything?

The fact that another team could get 97points shows just how good that team is. Fergie never had such a team. When he had a team that close, he finished 3rd.

Then another team not 1-3 still got to the UCL final.

Team 3 & 5 are playing the Europa finals.

Proving that all top 5 teams were formidable this year.

Despite that, one manager beat all of them in 38 games and had the second record points.

And your daft lineage did not tell you how this league season was tougher and the person who blitzed it (by getting 98pts) did a damn good job since with less formidable opponents, nobody even got past 95?

I have a feeling you are responsible for 99% of the world's stupidity.

larride:
It seems you are high. I keep telling you that it’s not everything Dayo says that you have to agree with and try to squeeze yourself into the argument. You won’t be sounding this stüpid if you had not jump into an argument to defend your mentor.

This season can not be said to be the toughest season in the EPL when we have a season that the league was decided on goals difference.

In the CL which you and Dayo want to us to judge this season tougher than 2007/2008 season, this is how the table ended

Man Utd - 89pts
Chelsea - 85pts
Arsenal - 83pts
Liverpool - 76pts

This season that just ended, this is how the table ended

Man City - 98pts
Liverpool - 97pts
Chelsea - 72pts
Spurs - 71pts

The difference between 1st and 3rd in 2007/2008 season is 6pts while the difference between the 1st and 3rd this just concluded season is 26pts.

Don’t forget that 1st, 2nd and 4th got to the semi final of the UCL in 2007/2008 while 1st and 2nd got to the final.

Why can’t Pep emulate Fergie and get to the final now that we are having all English final?

I actually mused on it but I can confirm you are daft. When Fergie won the treble he had 79pts to AFC's 78. Yet nobody has ever called it the toughest most exciting season because it was basically 2 one-eyed men being better than the other blind men.

The season 2 teams got 89pts and were separated by goal difference nobody ever said was ahead of this one. Why?because those teams did not have record performances. These 2 teams had 98 and 97pts and would have won the league in every other season.

To add to that CFC, Arsenal and Tottenham have made finals. So what does points total have to do with anything?

I don't know why reasoning is hard for some of you.

pamcode:
The points total isn't what matters but the difference between the points of each team. 07/08 falls during the era of dominance of the big four and not one season goes with 3 out of the 4 going toe to toe for the title.

Man United - 87
Chelsea - 85
Arsenal - 83
Liverpool - 76

This season
Man city - 98
Liverpool -97
Chelsea - 72
Tottenham -71

The league was certainly more competitive then than this season.

Are you people high or can you read?

How can points total not matter when we are discussing the achievement of Pep winning the league?

larride:
You are a joker Elruditor.

So Pep was able to beat Spurs in the league home and away and the same Spurs dump Pep out of the UCL?

If Pep beat Spurs home and away in the league, what stop him from beating them in the UCL also and be among one of the finalist?

Fergie was not just winning the league, he was beating the EPL team he faced in the UCL also. It’s not that the EPL was weaker, it was because Fergie was BETTER which can’t be said about Pep.

So apart from reasoning deficiencies, you don't understand English as well?

Fergie did not have Pep's points total.
Fergie did not beat Pep head to head. So forget this Pep vs Fergie argument. There is sufficient evidence against Fergie.

Now go back to what Raumdeuter said. That Pep got his total points in a harder EPL league with tougher opponents than what Fergie faced.

If Pep got eliminated by Tottenham. That can happen even during a penalty shootout. It does not matter. It shows Tottenham are good. After all, they also beat Ajax at their ground.

Liverpool beat Barcelona and had 97pts. So they are also very solid.

There is no team that Fergie faced that was that good. Let alone 3 others.

pamcode:
Oh really. Only Liverpool went toe to toe with City, the others had to settle for the other two spots as early as February now compare to 07/08 where the United, Chelsea, Arsenal went toe to toe for the title and all three made it to the semis of the UCL.

Arsenal did not make it. Liverpool did. But all 4 teams had < or = 87points.

This year, the league winner had 98points. Despite having 2 UCL finalists. So wining the league was no mean feat.

You are helping me make a strong case. Thanks.

larride:
How? Because Pep wouldn’t get to the UCL final losing to a team like Spurs that’s 4th?

What stop Pep from being one of the finalist?

Tottenham beat Ajax to get to the final. Liverpool beat Barcelona. They beat teams favoured over them.

It shows those teams were very good.

So for Pep to beat them hands down in the league. Shows how harder the league was.

larride:
I can see your brain is on strike.

It’s not Ferguson fault that Pep is not good enough to win the league and still go ahead to challenge for the UCL.

Ferguson won the league 3 times in a row and those 3 times, 3 English team feature in the UCL semi final in a roll.

Ferguson was not just winning the league, he was mixing it with the big boys in the UCL which include 2 others from the League.

If anything, it means your Pep is a fraud.

You are making a disconcerted argument. Fergie has also won the league when he did not make it out of the UCL group stages and Liverpool have won the UC league despite finishing 5th in the league. In both cases, it shows the league was not as strong as it is today.

If Fergie got to the UCL final by beating an English team and winning the league. Credit to him. Problem is, it shows how weak the league was compared to this season where teams that City beat to the league and beat head to head in the league still made it to the UCL final. That shows those teams were no
Pushovers.

LOL. I told you to stick to politics.

larride:
It seems your head is deep in Dayo ass that you can’t reason properly anymore.

How many EPL team was in the 2007/2008 UCL final?

The answer is 2.

How many EPL team was in the 2018/2019 UCL final?

The answer is 2.

Are you daft that simple math is hard for you to understand?

You are showing you are the daft one. Of the 2 finalists one is league winner the other is runner up.

This season, one is runner up, the other was 4th and then the league winner is another one entirely. Which means 3 teams are very formidable.

Stop. Think. Post. Rinse. Repeat.

Greatihex:
when you spend that much and don't win, i term it failure.
I don't use sentiments like you guys. That is why i currently i term klopp time at pool a failure and Mourinho at united a failure[this is despite Mourinho winning some trophies at united] despite both being two of my favorite managers.


So, when you spend more than Everyone else and win, it is nothing special to me

When you s

OK. Good.

This proves that money does not buy success. Thanks.

TLona1:
I don't care about all these calculations.

If you were a coach and you sold 9 players in your team, what would you do to fill those spaces?

That is why I have said net spend argument is dumb. You should count how many players were sold when determining how many were signed not the value. The value is useless.

larride:
How is that so?

In 2006/2007, 3 English team was in the semi final

In 2007/2008, 3 English team was in the semi final and 2 play the final

In 2008/2009, 3 English team was in the semi final and 1 play the final.


How many English team was in the UCL semi final this year?

Your posers are weakening your own argument. Those semi finalists should have made the finals those times to prove they were very strong, no?

Nobody is saying the EPL was weak then. The argument is that they are/were weaker than this present EPL. I hope you get it.

larride:
That’s how you will be jumping to an argument you have no idea about.

The 2 team that played the 2007/2008 UCL final are from where? Who won the league that year?

You should limit your reasoning power to politics. Every other thing is just claptrap. In 2007/08 United and CFC first and 2nd in the league faced themselves in the finals. So the only true competitor Fergie had was CFC.

In this season, the EPL has 2 finalists different from the one that won the league. It infers that there are stronger teams in the EPL now than there was in 2007/08 season.

Ibime:
Isn't that a stupid question to ask? How often do we have 2 finalists from the same league?

Atleast it shows the EPL was tougher this season than anything Fergie faced agree?

Greatihex:
please don't quote me with foolish questions again. Thank you.

Even if I tried my hardest I cannot out-foolish you. When you leave a room, it is impossible for anyone else to be foolish as you embody foolishness itself.

Ibime:
Are you dumb or forgetful?

Fergie won the league in 2007 when Liverpool were in CL final

Also in 2008 when Chelsea were in UCL final.

He said TWO finalists. Fergie winning it over 1 more team only means he had 1 other competitor in the league.

And you are asking someone about being dumb.

Melvyn11:
Robben and ribbery in the same sentence with guaranteed goals lol.

These people have denied Fred and Baily. They now call Smalling and Jones rubbish. They say Ashley young is past his prime. They are agitating for Ole to overhaul the team and sell "deadwood". Nobody blames Ole for not winning. They say the squad is not good.

In the very same breath, Pep should not change anyone, not sign anyone, win everything bar nothing or be a fraud.

These are the most unintelligent human beings on earth. I share the same air with this people. I want to doubt God because of this, atimes.

Greatihex:
what is genius in a manager having the highest spending of any manager and winning the trophies that should Naturally come with such spending?


Which one is mentality and style of play? Are you serious?

Pogba should have the most assists and goals for midfielders.

Lukaku should have the most goals for strikers.

Liverpool should win the domestic treble atleast. They spent the most this off season.

In not more than 200 words, briefly explain why the humongous fees spent on the afore-mentioned players and club did not naturally result in them winning trophies or topping charts.

TLona1:
What is the crime in selling about 9 players and replacing all of them?

You should not ask them that question as that is not important. Someone should explain to me how the 42M they used to get Bernardo is the reason he was covering the whole pitch of the field, man-marking every one, out jumping Pogba and co, scoring goals, assisting, dribbling and creating chances. Yet 70M Morata could not do it? 40M Bakayoko could not do it?

Greatihex:
Are you serious now?

Laporte that was sort after by many clubs? Maybe you should tell us how much he was signed and swear that you knew any of the players i mentioned before they got linked to Chelsea.

Name the clubs that sought after Laporte.

This is the same thread were people mocked the same Laporte for not being selected by the french national team.

Nobody wanted Marcus Alonso? Gary Cahill? Morata?

popizaino:
They said he is only doing because of sheikh's money ask them if Romans money made Ancelotti beat a relegation bound Portsmouth 2-0 at full time in the same fa Cup finals.



Abeg pep is too good jare.

They brought up first season, I asked them if the entirety of a manager's reign is judged by his first season.

If that is the case, how did SAF fair? Arsene Wenger? Jurgen Klopp?

Carlo won the league in his first season, ok. Pellegrini did. Ok. Jose did. Ok. Where is their treble?

popizaino:
They said he is only doing because of sheikh's money ask them if Romans money made Ancelotti beat a relegation bound Portsmouth 2-0 at full time in the same fa Cup finals.



Abeg pep is too good jare.

Sheikh's money but Pellegrini and Mancini have coached City before with the same Sheikh's money.

None won 2 EPL titles let alone back to back.
None won a treble.
None scored more goals.
None had 100pts, 98pts.
None had 32 wins. Two seasons in a row.

As if CFC don't have 42M to buy Bernardo. 50M for Raheem. 27M for Gab Jesus. They spent their money on DrinkWater and Bakayoko but Pep is buying the league.

LMAO.

popizaino:
Now that Allegri is on his way out of juventus, I hope and pray the bianconeri looks in the way of their former employee Conte. Just wish to see his magic again in the ucl this time around with c.ronaldo but trust me excuses are on ground if he keeps them getting knocked out of the group stages by those who call pep a fraud.

They will say Conte wanted Mbappe but the foolish Juve board bought CR7.

airmark:
Conte, with a moneybag sheikh won't be finding it difficult to take a ucl semifinalist, past the quarter finals in three attempts, after spending over 600m on his targets.

Conte wanted a player valued at 100M and another at 75M. Values Pep has never spent on any player. The other day he said City cannot even afford Griezmann.

When Conte gets the signings he wants and flops, the same you will tell us that it was Nedved that signed him not Conte. Mtcheww

CuteRedd:
not saying they should run the play everytime, saying if Portland watched the film between rockets and warriors, they would at least have a clue what was going on in that last play which led to warriors leading.

I should have started by saying I agree with you. It is our go to move. Portland were more afraid of a Curry 3.

CuteRedd:
That pnr with steph and draymond is money every time. We ran that 5 times against the rockets in the last 3min of 4th quarter. Couldn’t believe Portland fell for it...

Put some respeck on Draymond’s name. He shows up everytime in the playoffs!! I hope we find a way to keep all three guys at least.

If you play that way all game, the role players will be cold and your team will suffer.