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I knew this would happen. Never understood what the hype about Portland was all about. Lilliard thinks so highly of himself & he's talented but he will never reach Curry's level until he develops basketball IQ and use his presence to allow his teammates to flourish off the ball.

Eruditor:
Chocolate milk Klay is my favourite Klay.

Playoff Klay is fun to watch. He's one reason I think Houston will suffer if they keep depending on isolation plays by harden. A locked in klay can significantly reduce the efficiency of the isolation plays of harden & also punish every defense lapse by the rockets.

Lebtards : “LeBron lost because he has no help”

Me: “Who does Oladipo have? "

Imagine thinking the warriors and a lebron led team won't show up in the playoffs . Big Joke!

In other news call him a snake or whatever you like Durant is still a top 2 guy second only to lebron when business get serious. How many teams have a defender good enough to bother him at the moment? ... None.

Klay's playoff defense is underrated, his match up with opposing guards in the west is a key factor for the warriors. . if is shot starts falling consistently and curry comes back at 80%, the playoffs is over already.

SmooshCHN:
Chill!! You're overreacting. He's not a bust. Many rookies go through this phase.

Yes he's a rookie but for a lottery pick and a 2nd overall for that matter this guy is poor. To be a 2nd pick it's not just abt your potential but what you can do straight away. This guys peak is no better than rubio or rondo

SmooshCHN:
Trust me, he's my top 5 favourite player off the court. Thank God Lavar has been quiet. But they're last two games, he and KCP were just straight up trash in like the last 5mins of the game. Lakers were down by 1pt today with 52secs to go, my Nigga Lonzo, wide open, even took one dribble to set up well and bricked it. Just drive into the lane and flop like Harden but nah, he bricked it and KCP also gave an excellent pass to AD down by 3 with 4 secs to go. They're growing as a team and I like it though. E dey pain me especially those losses in crunch time. Not good for those young boys. KCP especially can't be teasing them like that.

Anyways, I'm only talking about last 3-5mins of the game before someone say I'm hating.

Lonzo is a bust period even Quinn cook from the G League shoots better. A pg shooting around 50% from the free throw line as a 2nd draft pick! What! Didn't he do pre draft work out or were the Lakers blind?

What kind of point guard who will be championship caliber score 4 points in a game. Get lonzo the f**k out of the Lakers mehn, the dude is not worthy of a lottery pick. Big fraud and bust.

A40:
Bruh you gotta pay the guys that helped you win two titles. It's in the constitution

Plus Golden State can afford it and by the time money from the Chase Arena starts rolling in their contracts would be pamper money. It's their last big contract in a world where Nicholas Batum got $120m/5years

The organization may have the money but you know salary cap issues will always limit spending. Giving such inflated contracts for three years is crazy. Anyway the alternative wasn't going to be pretty either ; Giving the rockets the veteran and defensive savy of iguodala could have come back to hurt them especially seeing the big jump the rockets have made.

The warriors made a big mistake giving Livingston and Andre big contracts. Andre is still able to deliver in clutch moments in d playoffs but he's just a glorified role player now.

A40:
Cheaply? They got an all-star center in Brook Lopez. The issue is all Russell gave the Lakers was scoring. Inefficient scoring

If Russell could do the same we would be seeing the signs in Brooklyn. This is his 3rd year in the league

Harden is still a mediocre defender but helps his team in many more ways. Can you tell me what Russell can do when he is not scoring?

Kuzma. Randle. Ingram already provide enough scoring not forgetting IT and even Brook Lopez when he's in the mood. The presence of a serial shot-jacker like Russell would surely eat up their shot attempts

Lopez all-star center don't kill me with laughter. Lopez can't defend to save his life and we got him on a year rental.

A40:
Well I have seen Russell play enough to know no serious team would build their roster around him because he gives you next to nothing when his shots are not falling. Lonzo has his limitations but as a floor general has a much higher ceiling

Russell would eat into the shots of these shooters and he's not even a great 3pt guy, his bread and butter is long 2's (which is a no-no for any would be efficient scorer)

The point is he was given away too early and too cheaply. If randle who started slowly is now looking like a stud what makes you think Russell couldn't do the same. Harden was a big defensive minus early in his career but he has improved. The NBA has evolved is such that a team looking to win a title can't depend on a point guard who can't shoot.
D angelo surely can't do worse than KCP right now. Imagine a core of Kuzma, Randle, Ingram, D Angelo and lonzo all on cheap contracts playing together for one or ywo years with max contract spots opening up for free agents, that's an ideal rebuild. Trying to huryy won't work especially if we don't get Paul George or keep randle. The purpose of a rebuild is not to build a good team that makes the playoff but a team that can contend.

VivaLaByke:
Mehn Lonzo needs to work on his scoring arsenal.


If his 3ball ain't falling,nothing else to give him points.


Hoping to see some major improvements by next season.

He had better. I believe magic Johnson dropped the ball by trading a potentially great shoot first guard Russell because of lonzo. Just look at how Good randle has become with time, the same would have happened with Russell.

Lakers 2017/2018 champs
Don't At me we are big ballers

Reality check for all those lebron won't get to the finals fans. Celtic's fans come the playoffs the bigboys will flip the switch and its Warriors vs cavs part4 again

Eruditor:
You are so tunnel-visioned in your opinion, you should spread your view. That Lebron's team is actually top-heavy with average shooters (bar KD). In a physical game with rebounds and co taken seriously, yes, you maybe right. But in Allstar game that won't be as physical. You stand the likelihood of being 50% wrong.

Remember when Cavs were going to win the finals easily last season?

Exactly in an all-star game where shooters are given free space, Curry's team has the edge. Moreover first timers in an all-star game like KAT, Embiid and blue collar guys like Jimmy butler, Kyle Lowry, Draymond are likely to take the game serious and play some defense

AlderFadington:
Another one! My Goodness! LMAO! These guys are shameless! Man im dead

Shadow follower of this thread for 2yrs now. laker fan plus proud bandwangon warriors fan . This thread is my daily dose of laughter. Decale, eruditor, vivalabyke, smooschn infact all of u keep up the good work except a certain Cavs fan and lebtard .Sircumalot and his KD hate go continue in the afterlife.

NnaNna4:
"Do you think we are joking? You won’t write your name. we know if you write your name you will become successful and rich. we the witches. we know you. we have been following you". I thought it was a joke so I ignored the voices and focused on the paper I was holding to write my name but alas, the ink in the pen could not write. I tried all possible best to make it write but it couldn’t. when the ink couldnt write, I began to look at the man of God to see if he is aware of the voices but he doesn’t seem to notice those voices and besides he is already becoming tired of the longer time I am taking just to put down my name. just imagine yourself taking almost 30 minutes just to put down your name and submit to a dignitary.
At this time, I was beginning to sense the uneasiness with the man of God who has been waiting to be an answer to my prayers; so I rushed out to get another piece of paper. When I stepped outside the door of his room, I saw lo and behold endless offices, secretaries, receptionists, workers each to their jobs, everyone minding his business and the end of the offices cannot be seen by standing at the door of his office. I wowed but quickly looked down to see a piece of paper few steps from me which I stooped down and picked up. As I turned to enter the office I saw a woman crying by the door from which I came out. She was crying that the witches have denied her the privileges and opportunities of benefitting from the Bishop.
Well I didn’t stop to ask her anything but minding my own business, I continued back to the office from where I came out. I stood before him again and began to make fresh effort to write my full name on this new piece of paper. And again the voices came with a boisterous laughter claiming that I am undermining their rebuke. “So you think you can write your name even after we have told you, you cannot” the voices kept hammering in my ear. Followed with a boisterous laughter from cacophony of voices “Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha”. But I kept making frantic effort to write and I was able to put down three faint letters from my surname (my surname is eight alphabets and my name is nine alphabets) and heard the witches increase their laughter and even the faint alphabets couldn't even come out again. Just as I was expecting the Bishop to discern and rebuke those voices but instead the Bishop stood up and left and I awoke. I thanked God I awoke. 03:42 am. The date is 4-4-16 exactly one year from today. My dream usually come to pass so I became jittery. I have to pray. Some people advised me to go see Bishop Abioye for prayers. It was a revelation I understood very well.

witches just instil fear and nothing more. Although i increased my prayers against witches. there is a contract that i was connected from rivers state to pick from a ministry in Abuja. it was huge but for no reasons within the 21 days given to me the contract was diverted. and my qualification for another contracts in another ministry was disqualified. but thank God i didnt just stay and watch i gave myself to more prayers and the result is showing now. peace.

Wow, I haven't been paying attention to this thread for a while, but I belief the Holy Spirit wanted to give you direction that's why I read your post today.
First thing first rejoice in the Lord . This dream of yours was to teach a lesson and what's yours will be restored if you do what's required.
This dream is almost an exact replica of one of the visions of Kenneth E Hagin had about Jesus. In fact I dare say the message God is passing across is the same. I will advice you to lay your hands on these books " I believe in visions and the believers authority " . you would learn all you need to do from those books. I won't go into much details but bishop David in that dream is representing God, and God is trying to give something to you, in this case "a blessing" which I believe its to enable you fulfil a mandate or kind of ministry ( the cancer stuff you mentioned). The devil doesn't wants you to connect to it and it's your responsibility (NOT GOD'S) to rebuke the devil in the name of Jesus. God has already given authority to you after Jesus came ,died and resurrected om your behalf. Its your assignment to learn how to use your authority as a believer. Please read those books especially I believe in visions, your dream is an exact replica of one of the visions described there. If you don't learn what to do and do it, the fault would be yours. It took Kenneth hagin another 30 yrs before God unveiled what the devil prevented hagin from getting in his own vision because he failed to learn how to rebuke the devil when he ought to know.

iamblessedagain:
how does one receive deliverance from marine spirirts? i have been to MFM UK, USA, germany, MFM camp in nigeria to no avail. i have been fasting and praying for more than 10 years with no result. what else should i do?

Very simple, Go and buy "The triumphant church by Kenneth hagin" , go to Pastor.ng and download the messages on how to deal with the devil in your life. There is no short cut prayer and fasting gymnastics to walk in total liberty. It is the word of faith that liberates people. People can pray for you and unclean spirits temporarily depart but without adequate illumination they will come back. Prayer without illumination is mere dancing in circles and frustration sets in. Until you know how to submit your life to God, you can't resist the devil successful.

analice107:
I was in your position some years back too. I needed to move out of my Church then, for the same reasons you have, but didn't want to go on my own to some place.

And For 2 whole years i asked and waited for His direction, funny enough when the direction came, it was the last place i ever thought i could ever step my feet into.

The place He took me to, i hated the the G.O. I called him names. I looked down on the members. I never considered them serious Christians.

But, lol, i found myself accepting an invitation to attend a programme there. The very first day, I sat under the said G.O. which was through satellite. Immediately he climbed the podium, the Holy Spirit took over so quickly, He did not allow me switch on my Critiquing mode, which i was very good at back then.

There was a sudden shift, like Teleportation, I found myself kneeling on the alter the G.O. was standing on, his hand placed on my head. He was making declarations, but i wasn't hearing what he was saying. His mouth was moving but he wasn't making any sound . And, all of a sudden again, i came back to myself.

From that night, my spirit got knitted with his.

That was my confirmation after waiting patiently for Him to direct me where to go so that i can serve Him better.

Again, the church i was, although i wanted to leave, i never castigated them. I never missed Church on purpose. I never went late to church, because it was still my Father's house.

My Attitudes towards other men of God changed.

They are different callings, Different gifts, different Administrations, but by the same Spirit. If you don't feel okay where you are, quietly ask the Master where to go and leave. Do not malign God's servants. God is jealous over his anointed.

Not every Pastor is sent to you.

Here is what the Holy Spirit said to Jeremiah.

And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
Jeremiah:3:15

He knows you and your temperament. He knows your Assignment/Mandate/Calling on earth. He knows who will best teach/guide/and groom you for the task ahead.

ASK HIM. will show you.


His ways...

I wish I can like this your comment more than once. Flesh and blood did not inspire you to write this. I had a similar experience the difference was that back then I wasn't even a born again Christian and I used to bash a particular popular pastor a lot back then, i thought all he taught was prosperity. But thank God for his mercies who supernaturally brought me under the tutelage of that pastor(How it happened was just the raw hand of God) I have being in that church for 2 yrs plus now during which the Holy Spirit has giving me several striking revelations about how i am tied to this man.
There are times I will just step in church and the Holy Spirit will put specific words for me in his mouth, loud and clear. But as i grew up a bit in things of the Spirit. NOW HERE IS THE CATCH ; I started noticing one or two things I label as doctrinal errors and I have different opinion in the interpretation of certain scriptures and that had being weighing on my heart recently till this morning when God gave me two striking revelations to affirm to me how he has sent this man to me to teach and impart something I will need to fulfil purpose.
This is a man I once maligned ooh.

For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. Therefore I exhort you, be imitators of me.
1 Corinthians 4:15‭-‬16 NASB



A believer can have many teachers but there is usually a specific spiritual father sent to him to impart certain spiritual gifts /graces to him (This is especially true for believers who end up as preachers). You can have differences in interpretation of scriptures and he may even make mistakes but it doesn't mean he's not sent to you. Our job as a believer is to sieve out the unneeded portion but be partaker of his grace, and honour him in our hearts.

My advise to people reading this is that Never malign a Man of God, he may have something God has packaged for you in his mouth.

analice107:
I hope you realize that speaking in Tongues is not the same as Speaking in Unknown Tongues?

Yes dear. Longest time analice I was almost going to ask about both of you and hanan. You are welcome once again.

JMG1:
Good bro. You did well but don't let's by trying to teach the pure gospel fall on the edge.

Yes there are clear picture of those who spoke in tongues and prophesy but there is no where in the book of acts that talked about people being baptized and prophesy but we see those who spoke in tongues after being baptized and didn't prophesy.

Prophesy is one of the gifts of the Spirit1 Corinthians: 12. 8. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9. To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

What I actually want to point out is1 Corinthians: 12. 11. But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. (kjv). 1 Corinthians: 12. 11. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.(niv)
Whatsover gift that manifest after Holy Ghost Baptism is given as the Spirit will..... But according to the bible, speaking in tongues is a clear sign of being baptized in the Holy Spirit.

I agree totally with you bro, we should all desire spiritual gifts...... You are doing a nice work here bro, you are doing well. God bless you

Thx for this. It's very insightful. One thing I just want us to be cautious about is that ,we must not be dogmatic on things the scriptures is a bit silent on, that's one of the things I believe the Holy Spirit has humbled me on recently. That's why I shifted to the middle on this issue.

You see there is not much difference between gift of prophecy and gift of various kind of tongues.
The only difference is one is an inspired utterance in a know tongue and another is an inspired utterance in an unknown tongue. The combination of tongues and interpretation of tongues working concurrently in a situation is a prophecy. Because interpretation of a tongues turns the inspired utterance in an unknown tongue to a known tongue that can edify the people.

You see when the Greek Bible was written there was no word like "gifts" in Greek. To try and make people understand It had to be imported that's why if you look at 1 Cor 12 and 13 the word gifts was in italics. In order words, what Paul said in effect in 1 Cor 12:1 for example is simply "Now concerning spiritual , brethren I would not have you ignorant". Now this is vital because some people believe a more appropriate term to import is not actually the wors gift but "manifestations" or "things"

If you studied that chapter with the mindset that its talking about Spiritual manifestations or spiritual things. Those gifts takes on a whole greater meaning.
So what Paul could just be saying is that tongues is a spiritual manifestation and not a gift which is more in line with the way other scriptures talk about tongues. And you can see that also in KJV
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1 Corinthians 12:7 KJV
. It simply means a man can be baptized with the Holy Spirit and not have the imanifestation of tongues but actually have a manifestation of seeing into the Spirit realm at point of baptism (I have heard of this) or refuse to speak in tongues because they are being stubborn against it. This appears to be true from what I have heard. An example was the fore father of Pentecostalism and faith healing "John Alexander dowie" The man so heavily anointed that many saw him as an apostle but this guy never spoke in tongues. This guy was a lot anointed that most people who blast tongues today given the exploits he did. No man could do such works he did without the power of the Holy Spirit yet he never spoke in tongues. John Wesley was another man of God that never spoke in tongues.
This is why Paul himself said that ultimate manifestation of the Holy Spirit is LOVE IN 1 COR 12:31 AND CHAPTER 13, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THAT'S THE ULTIMATE PROOF OF TRUE BAPTISM. FOR TBE LOVE OF GOD HAS BEING SHED ABROAD IN OUR HEARTS BY THE HOLY GHOST WHICH IS GIVEN UNTO US (ROMANS 5:5) .
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO LOVE , BUT SOMETHING IN YOU DRIVING YOU LOVE AND MAKING YOU OVE IN VERY CRAZY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT IS BEYOND YOUR CAPACITY. THIS THING IS REAL, IT MAKES YOU LOVE GOD ABOVE ALL ELSE EVEN MORE THAN YOURSELF. IT MAKES YOU TO JUST LOVE PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN'T JUST HELP IT. IT'S SOMETHING WE MUST CONSTANTLY CRAVE FOR. THERE I DO SOMETHINGS THAT ARE SO COSTLY UNTO ME THAT I WONDER HOW AND WHATVI WAS THINKING WHEN I DO THEM. THIS MANIFESTATION IS REAL .
You will see that all these are manifestations of the Spirit which he gives as he wills. I know there are a lot of people filled with By Spirit who dont speak in tongues regularly because due to lack of adequate teachings they think its gibberish. Having said that I advocate we will all desire to speak in tongues.

But on the issue of whether its the only sign of baptism in the Holy Spirit ; Based on the facts I have now, I'm not so sure. I have gravitated towards the middle and I hope the Holy Spirit will give me more understanding.

And also to add. You don't need tarrying like the apostles to be filled by the Holy Spirit. Even scriptures comfortably refute that. When Paul went to Ephesus and found out they had not received the Spirit , he just laid his hands on them and immediately they got baptised. The one of corneluis and his household was even more dramatic. Peter was still preaching and introducing them to Christ when he fell on them. The crucial component of baptism in the Spirit is Faith. You can be born again and baptized at the same time as long as your faith is ready, he's also ready. I have also heard the arguement that you need to be sanctified first and that's also not correct. Because the Holy Spirit is our SANCTIFIER. HE COMES WITH HIS FAN AND FIRE TO CLEAN US UP AND HE KEEPS DOING THAT TILL WE PASS ON.

@Urheme
It is very possible for a believer to be filled by the Holy Spirit have multiple spiritual gifts, speak in tongues and still be carnal and a baby in Christ. In fact its common amongst Christians nowadays. Let's look at what Paul wrote to the Corinthians.

And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1 Corinthians 3:1‭-‬3 KJV

This was Paul's assessment of the Corinthian Church but this Church had immense spiritual gifts in fact it was the mismanagement of the gifts that lead to some of their problems(because of internal competion, 1 Cor 1:26) How do I know? Let's see this


I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge; Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1 Corinthians 1:4-7 KJV.

As you can see Paul said they didn't come behind in Spiritual gifts (vs 7) and utterance (vs 5) .
They had authentic firebrand gifts sef, They had good spiritual knowledge sef (but not the full knowledge, I will point out what was missing a later on).
But yet Paul called them carnal and babes? Yet this was a church were disvisons an sectarianism had crept in ( 1 Cor 10: 11-13), Formication (1 Cor 5:1) , pride (1 Cor 5:2, 4:18).
This was why Paul wrote to the Church of Corinth (not to the world)( 1 Cor1:2) TO REMIND BELIEVERS THERE NOT UNBELIEVERS OH, THAT "KNOW YE NOT THAT THE UNRIGHTEOUS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD?"

Now we have to take a pause and a little detour here, people see the use of the word "unrighteous" in this context means unbelievers. That's not true. There are two dimensions of righteousness for a believer. THERE IS OUR "POSITIONAL RIGHTEOUSNESS" WE ATTAIN BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS. AND THEN "MANIFEST RIGHTEOUSNESS" WHICH IS THE PRODUCT OF THE OUTWARD WORKING OF WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST JESUS BY DOING "WORKS OF FAITH" ( I JOHN 3:7)
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1 John 3:7 KJV

That last line is for those who have turned the message of Grace upside down.
So Paul's warning was for those in the body of Christ who were still sinning and many of them had gifts. That's was why Paul had to remind them they were the temple of the Holy and they must sanctify themselves.

SO IN SUMMARY SPIRITUALL GIFTS ARE NOT A FUNCTION OF SPIRITUAL MATURITY OR CHARACTER BUT OF PEOPLE'S CALLING. THEREFORE DON'T DESPISE THE GIFTS OF CHRISTIANS WHO ARE STILL STRUGGLING WITH ONE CHARACTER FLAW OR THE OTHER.
It doesn't mean that their gifts are not genuine or they can't use it to bless you. But instead reach out to teach them and pray for them. Just like Priscilla and Aquilla did to Apollos in Acts 18. I have seen a drunken client of mine give me a word of knowledge before.
AND A WORD OF ADVICE TO MY EXCEPTIONAL GIFTED BRETHRENS HERE, DON'T LET YOUR GIFTS DECIEVE YOU TO THINK YOU HAVE ARRIVED SPIRITUALLY AND YOU RUSH INTO THE MINISTR BECAUSE OF ZEAL BEFORE YOU'RE THOROUGHLY GROUNDED IN THE WORD OF GOD . IT'S THE REASON WE HAVE A LOT OF malnourished CHRISTIANS TODAY. BECAUSE THE MAN OF GOD WASN'T ready.

So if spiritual maturity is not a function of Gifts and is not even exactly a function of knowledge because Paul said the Corinthians had knowledge in ( 1 Cor 1:7) . WHAT THE IS TRUE SPIRITUAL MATURITY? I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THAT LATER IN THE DAY.

Spartacuss, JMG1,urheme One thing about spiritual matters is that we have to always remain open minded about spiritual things because we know only in part. Coincidentally I have being doing an exegesis on the book of 1 Corinthians, studying it along with teachings by pastor bankie olusina (pastor.ng) on the book and it actually gave me some light concerning your discussion.

Up till today I have always belonged to the idealogy that Speaking with unknown tongues is the only evidence of a person receiving the Holy Spirit. But now I'm not so sure again.
There are actually two verbal evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit from scriptures which go hand in hand. We easily recognise speaking in unknown tongues but there is another which is "prophesying" .

And as Paul laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spoke in [foreign, unknown] tongues (languages) and prophesied.
Acts 19:6 AMPC

We see this again in the book of Luke.

And it occurred that when Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with and controlled by the Holy Spirit. And she cried out with a loud cry, and then exclaimed, Blessed (favored of God) above all other women are you! And blessed (favored of God) is the Fruit of your womb!
Luke 1:41‭-‬42 AMPC

Nbw Zachariah his father was filled with and controlled by the Holy Spirit and prophesied, saying, Blessed (praised and extolled and thanked) be the Lord, the God of Israel, because He has come and brought deliverance and redemption to His people!
‭1: ‬67‭-‬68 AMPC

We can see three clear examples of people being filled by the Spirit and prophesing here. We have to understand that prophecy is an inspired utterance declaring the will of God. Its not often predictive in nature. Most times what people think are predictive prophecies are actually the word of wisdom and or word of knowledge in action. However I don't think a believer is supposed to exclusively prophecy on or speak in tongues. A believer is supposed to be able to do both.

I'm sure that most of us are conversant with the truth that prophesying edifies more in public gathering while speaking in tongues is more for our own personal edification. I personal believe all believers should desire both. The benefits of speaking in tongues especially as it relates to personal edification and spiritual warfare and Worship of the father is too immense.
I believe we shouldn't be satisfied with just a partial Christian walk and missing out of somethings. We should desire to grow into the fullness of what Christ and made available to us so we can grow into the stature of Christ.

Then to point 2 : Can a person be filled with the Holy spirit, operate gifts and still be immoral and carnal?
The answer is a capital YES. IN FACT THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS PAUL WROTE 1 CORINTHIANS. I WILL ANSWER THAT IN ANOTHER POST.

Haba Spartacuss and Anas09 it's OK , let's calm down a bit. Let's forget about who was right and who was wrong and sheath our swords and show some agape love.
The bible says Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may because of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation.
1 Peter 2:12 NASB
If we the supposed light of the world on a platform where gross darkness is evident are going back and forth @ each other ,it doesn't speak well of us. I don't think we need to have a whole sermon on love to remind us about that.
I know both of you mean well for the Gospel of Christ and the zeal is evident in your previous post. For that sake let's conduct ourselves rightly even if it means suffering a wrong and keeping quiet about it. We can't let the Name of God be slandered amongst the heathen reading our comments here on nairaland because of our conduct. God bless you all. Can we see a "virtual" brotherly handsake between both of you

Hmm just my personal opinion oh but i think at this junction that it's imperative that we remind ourselves that not all gifts are of the Holy Spirit and Some could just be plain spirit of divination. Infact its very possible that most people claiming to have unusual gifts nowadays actually have the spirit of divination. I'm a bit skeptical of people displaying unusual abilities CONSISTENTLY who have never received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I don't think there is any biblical precedence for this. Let's all just be careful. Please NOTE THE ADJECTIVE I USED "CONSISTENTLY" . And let us also not be in a hurry to label someone as having a prophetic gift because he sees into the Spirit realm regularly. That's just one gift of the Holy Spirit that anybody can be given. Most prophets often have the gift of Prophecy (making inspired utterance) and also Discernment of spirit and or word of wisdom/word of knowledge consistently. Let's try all spirit and hold fast to what is good. God bless you all. Have a prosperous new year.

Anas09:
I thought so too. There's an open portal through which satan still access him.

He is in possession of an acursed thing.

nnamdiosu:
[quote author=Pidgin2 post=52401953]There is a Crack in your armour

Deathslater:
But I'm a born again, I have accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and saviour.

Not necessarily a product of being a possession of an accursed thing. It may be a result of inadequate "light" . If you're truly born again. What you need is illumination from God's word to break every strong hold of the devil. Yes deliverance by anointed men of God is needed sometimes but most times all u need is revelation and impartation from God's word.it will tell you what to do and how to pray and when to pray. books I recommend are "Satan get lost by Bishop oyedepo and the triumphant church and the believer's authority by Kenneth hagin". Apart from the power revelation of truth gives to you, it also builds your faith to easier reach out for your deliverance when people pray for you. Be of good cheer Jesus has overcome the world.

NnaNna4:
etidy is good .... thank God for you

NnaNna4:
etidy is good .... thank God for you

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Thanks brothers. God bless you

What is True Matured Faith? What is the Faith that overcomes all?

Matured Faith is not about maintaining a positive confession all the time, It is ability to maintain your LOVE FOR GOD DESPITE THE COST. It is a place where though he slays you , it doesn't move you and you still love and trust him all the same(Job 13:15) . it's the place of "king we are not careful for our life, look we know our God is able, faithful and willing to deliver us but just in case he decides not to do it, we still won't bow to your graven image" I.e paraphasing Daniel 3:16-19 .THIS IS THE FAITH THAT OVERCOMES. IT IS THE FAITH THAT SAYS I WON'T JOIN THEM TO STEAL A DIME IN THIS OFFICE EVEN IF IT WILL COST ME MY JOB. REV 12:11 " FOR THEY OVERCAME HIM (THE DEVIL) BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB AND THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY (THIS IS WHERE WE LIKE TO STOP IN QUOTING THIS VERSE, WE LIKE TO STOP AT THE LEVEL OF THE BLOOD AND OUR POSITIVE TESTIMONY BUT THAT'S NOT ALL) FOR THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH. Your faith can't truly overcome until you're willing to hold on to it till death.
Until you are willing to take a LOSS TO GAIN CHRIST, UNTIL YOU'RE WILLING TO MAINTAIN YOUR LOVE FOR GOD DESPITE IT COSTING YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO SEE HIS DELIVERANCE, YOU'RE NOT PERMITTED TO SEE THE POWER OF HIS RESSURECTION.


IF ANYMAN LOVES HIS LIFE AND TRIES TO SAVE IT HE WILL LOSE IT, BUT IF ANY MAN HOLDS AT RELATIVE DISREGARD HIS OWN LIFE AND CHOOSES TO LOSE IT FOR THE SAKE OF CHRIST ( TO GAIN CHRIST) HE WILL GAIN LIFE.

THE QUALITY OF YOUR FAITH IS NOT IT'S ABILITY TO RECEIEVE THINGS FROM GOD. NO! LETS STOP THIS TAKE TAKE MENTALITY. GOD MAY CONTINUE GIVING YOU THINGS BUT HE'S NOT ENTIRELY HAPPY WITH YOU, ASK THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL WHEN HE GAVE THEM QUAILS IN THE WILDERNESS AND WHEN HE GAVE THEM A KING AGAINST HIS WISH. THE PURPOSE OF REAL FAITH IS TO PLEASE GOD! I REPEAT AGAIN THE PURPOSE OF REAL FAITH IS TO PLEASE GOD. HOW? BY USING IT AS A WEAPON TO PURSUE HIS WILL WHICH IS TO SEEK FIRST HIS KINGDOM AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS IN ALL THINGS.


I love what classic amplified version says here ;
Moreover [let us also be full of joy now!] let us exult and triumph in our troubles and rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that pressure and affliction and hardship produce patient and unswerving endurance. And endurance (fortitude) develops maturity of character (approved faith and tried integrity). And character [of this sort] produces [the habit of] joyful and confident hope of eternal salvation.
Romans 5:3‭-‬4 AMPC
Tried and matured faith is joyful in the face of pressure and challenges. It is not the faith that loves God and is happy only when God is giving things to him. It is faith that loves and trust God all the same celebrating his faithfulness.

Some faith move mountains, some destroy it, BUT MATURED FAITH THAT HAS BEEN SOAKED WITH THE LOVE OF GOD DOESN'T EVEN SEE THE MOUNTAIN. That is true victory. Thats the key to living triumphant all the time.

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feel a burden tonight to share some things. Now I am not sure if its the Holy Spirit that has placed this there or just my zeal for the Lord that's in manifestation either way I believe in my heart that these words are timely.
I know most of us have heard how that we are in the perilous times and about the events that will happen. Many of us are semi-expectant of this and use every event in line with those scriptures that happens to validate the reality of the times.
But I don't think many of us truly realize how perilous things are fast becoming. I have being observant of certain things and I perceive and believe that we are actually about to enter an even more dramatic phase of the end time agenda of God. Why do I say this? I SEE SO MANY PEOPLE WHOSE LOVE FOR GOD IS WAXING COLD AND ITS ALARMING. MANY PEOPLE HAVE BECOME SELF PLEASERS AND GOD HATERs. THE GOSPEL IS INCREASINGLY PREACHED WITH THE CLEVERNESS OF MAN'S WISDOM, OUR GOSPEL IS GETTING MIXED AND IT LACKS IMPART. CHURCH MEMBERS ARE INCREASING BUT ONLY FEW ARE GETTING TRANSFORMED. THERE IS THIS PSEUDO-ATHEISM SYNDROME CREEPING INTO THE YOUTHS IN THE CHURCH AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE THERE IS ONE MAJOR REASON FOR MOST OF THESE;
"MOST BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE ACTUALLY MISREPRESENTING OR HAVE MISREPRESENTED CHRIST JESUS" (I SHARE IN THIS BLAME) The bible warns of this
"And many will follow their immoral ways and lascivious doings; because of them the true Way will be maligned and defamed.
2 Peter 2:2 AMPC
Let's always ask ourselves this question; is our action becoming a stumbling block to the path of another to the faith? Is the name of the Lord being blasphemed amongst the heathen because of my actions?
Many of us are born again but only a few of us have taken the guantlet of renewing their minds and actually looking like Jesus Christ. Very few of us have grown the Spirit of Christ in us.
WHERE IS THE AGAPE LOVE? WHERE IS IT? IT'S NOT EVEN BEING PREACHED BY MANY. CHRISTIANITY IS LOVE SIMPLY PUT.
WHERE IS THE CONSECRATION?
But the firm foundation of (laid by) God stands, sure and unshaken, bearing this seal (inscription): The Lord knows those who are His, and, Let everyone who names [himself by] the name of the Lord give up all iniquity and stand aloof from it. [Num. 16:5; Isa. 26:13.]
2 Timothy 2:19 AMPC
I love this translation ! Let everyone that names himself by the name of Christ(Christian) depart from iniquity.
Not only this but let's seek to grow in love and wisdom that we may win unbelievers. Let's comport ourselves and remember whatever you do [no matter what it is] in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus and in [dependence upon] His Person, giving praise to God the Father through Him.
Colossians 3:17 AMPC ,
See that your business , that job , that course you're doing or what ever it is as a service unto God and an opportunity to be a blessing. Let's bring CHRIST LIKENESS MENTALITY BACK TO CHRISTIANITY.
GOD BLESS YOU AND MAY HIS GRACE ABOUND IN, TO AND UPON US. AMEN.
PLEASE I ADMONISH WE ALL TAKE TIME OUT TO STUDY 2 TIM 2:19-26 Amplified version., YOU WILL BE BLESSED BY IT.

Some thoughts came to me on tithing in a perspective I have not seen it from before yesterday, I believe it's Holy Spirit inspired so I wrote it down. I'm putting a word document here (just 37kb) of it that people can download and read. Please I will appreciate if all of u gets to read it, scrutinize it and give me your feedbacks and corrections either here or via my email. It's a controversial topic, but I believe that should not stop us from getting the right knowledge of it.