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mzilakazi:
That' number is not even close to 1million.

millions of people come on pilgrimage to nigeria.the headquaters to the many of the world's most powerful and influential churches are in nigeria.crusades and conventions alone draws millions of foreigners into nigeria.

DieVluit:
Then give us the numbers and list the awards my man.

Prove that your minuscule tourism industry is not miniscule. Hollywood on-location scenes are business. Work. Not Tourism. SA also has those.

We want your tourism awards and numbers, mate.

Can we have them.

we were given the best plateau resort award in 2011,an award that was in respect to the jos plateau,we were also given the best smart city plan award in 2012 in response to the Eko atlantic city.

DieVluit:
Then produce real one bra. Not wooden. You said it's easy. Show is your:
1. Tourism awards
2. Actual tourism visits.
Real ones. Do you have those? No.You have nothing.

of course,i say this with all sense of modesty,though i know i have numerous....enchanting talents,but i daresay,that a sculptor,i'm not.so how do i "produce a 'real' one"?,hmm?

DieVluit:
We care only about tourists. If you can't PROVE that those are tourists, then we are happy to laugh at you, like we've been doing all day.Nigeria has no tourist attraction factor worth speaking of boet.

sule,how can nigeria have no tourist attraction?,hollywood shoot scenes here!,millions visit our churches every month from all over the world!,next to rome,vatican and isreal,nigeria recieves the highest amount of christian pilgrims every year!.so what do you call that?

DieVluit:
Let's see you pluck the piece of wood then. Do it. Show us the numbers and awards.
You said you could do it easily. If it's so easy, then give us the list of awards and numbers.If it's so easy there should be tons out there. Do it.

we have no need for wooden awards given by charity organizations to remain in the government's good grace.

mzilakazi:
Fact!!! Nigeria does not have AIDS yet stats show that more Nigerians die from AIDS than all African countries.

i've heard enough nonsense today to make a pouf go green.by what statistics do you authoritatively quote that "nigerians die from AIDS than 'all' african countries"?

DieVluit:
pROvE the statistic bra.

Prove that those are tourists.

You CANNOT because that isn't so. Nigeria is NOT in the top leagues of tourists attractions. It is a repellant to tourists.

you are an illiterate,i said,that number represented all entries into nigeria in 2013.as in,everybody that came into nigeria in 2013: tourists,businessmen,investor,international spies and covert ops,pilgrims etc...

DieVluit:
You couldn't say nigeria is better than SA cause you can't. And you're admitting that now cause I'm pressing you for awards and VisITS.
Which then means one thing:
You recognize the importance of awards and VISITs.
Show me the awards and visits for Ethiopia please
Awards and visits for Tanzania. Go on.
Tell me who has more in SSA? No don't tell me. Prove it.

what is the use of awards?....i can easily pluck off a chunk of wood from a half decomposing iroko tree,chisel it into a portable shield,glue a golding nylon on it and hand it over to the president for performing so cluelessly,does that mean that i've given him a "touristworthy" award?

iterator24:
awards saves them from HIV and crime

the more the award,the more the crime and HIV.the more foreign 'tourists' troop into SA,the more the HIV,SA ladies and guys are very quick in spreading their legs{or ar_se,as the case may be},and we know that foreigners are prone to importing unimaginable diseases,HIV included.

DieVluit:
Which publication recognise the Kruger national park as a top park. Which publication does NOT recognize nigeria's parks as such.Nigeria still has no awards.Nigeria still cAn show no tourist numbers.So "lol"

kruger park,the home of south african and chinese poachers.even deploying legions of troops into the 'troubled park' and declarin an unofficially state of emergency in kruger park,hasnt stopped poachers from overwhelming your defences and marching onward to pretoria to poach zuma's head.when will you accept defeat and agree that SA isnt as "touristworthy" as you claim.

DieVluit:
You can't have tourists numbering 5 million and not be in the top leagues. It's impossible. You can't PROVE that number cause it doesn't exist re: tourists

*amused*..kids these days,no respect for authority anymore,why,you should be starved and given a good spanking...what do they teach you in school boy?.that statistic is the total number of people that entered nigeria in 2013!,not tourist alone,EVERYONE!.

DieVluit:
exactly! 2 world heritage sites against 8. Nuff said.
The other stuff you listed isn't even worth a second glance.
And lol about the false 5 million figure.
Oh by the way, awards and tourist numbers. Where are they? Show us!
So your tourist attractions aren't really attractions if they attract neither tourists nor awards.

you are misguided.i'm not saying that nigeria is better than SA in the area of tourism,what i'm saying is that SA isnt the best tourist destination in africa.anyways,nigeria is no slouch too,do you know how many hollywood movies have been shot in nigeria?..morocco,egypt,ethiopia and tanzania are the biggest tourist destinations in africa.

DieVluit:
The kruger national park is africa's TOP park. And it's got TRAVEL RECOGNITION
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11270782/The-worlds-best-countries.html
Show us nigeria's
1.tourism numbers; and
2. Tourism awards.
You CAN'T.

LOL.posting citations from telegraph,a news website.there is no travel ban SA yet because only rhinos are being poached,but when foreigners start getting 'poached',i wonder if you would be so smug.

mzilakazi:
That's a green lie. Nigeria does not receive more than 5 million tourists in any year. With that number they would have been on the top 10 tourists destinations in Africa. Unfortunately they could not make the list.

thats the total number of foreign nationals that visited nigeria in 2013.

DieVluit:
People give praise to what is praise worthy.If it's not praiseworthy, then it won't gain any praise.In tourism, the ultimate form of Praise are:
1.Awards and
2.Actual visits.
Show me the awards and visits attributed to the places you talk about. Show me who has more. Show me.
YOU CANT.
SA has awards and visits for daaaays. Actual and real ones that you can touch and count.
Nigeria has ZERO.You cannit deny what is undeniable. And what is undeniable is that the world has VOLUNTARILY CHOSEN to go to SA and to spend money there. Not only that, the world has chosen to say SA is the BEST.

yeah,you expect tourists to visit your parks and get poached.LOL.i guess SANDF would predictably have to raise the white flag to poachers.zulu culture and aparthied museum is what draws tourists to SA,you can coo about your wooden awards as much as you want,SA lacks adventure and history.

DieVluit:
Yes, because if you were so attractive, you'd show us actual tourist numbers and awards, but you can't.South Africa has 8 world heritage sites, bra. 8 LOL
http://www.places.co.za/html/south_africa_world_heritage_sites.htmlStop dreaming.///South Africa is home to eight of the world's official heritage sites, as determined by Unesco's World Heritage Committee. The country has a total of 4 cultural, 3 natural and one mixed (cultural and natural) heritage sites.This is is not surprising given the spectacular and diverse culture, nature and wildlife that South Africa offers its tourists

nigeria has:
*over 60 centres of tourist attraction.
*2 world heritage sites: sukur cultural landscape and gurara waterfalls
*1 wetland of international importance(ramsar): Nguru lake{and marma channel} complex
*9 national park{perfectly safe and secured from poachers,unlike down south}
*21 forest reserves and 16 game reserves and wildlife park
*we recieve over 5 million tourist a year

DieVluit:
You're starting to sound like a joke.So, the tourists leave their countries and spend time and money to come to South Africa out of pity? LOL.You can't deny it my friend, the proof of a country's attraction to tourists is in actual visits and awards- not some story about the Queen of Sheba lol.The ACTUAL and FACTUAL numbers and awards point towards South Africa and not Nigeria, my broer. No matter how you slice and dice it, South Africa comes up TOPS.And the reason for that is simple, Nigeria cannot offer a complete tourist package to make it attractive to the world.

LOL.your tales about how SA was praised for its safari offering does not denote adventure,mystery or mystic.you dont even have the capacity to secure the lives of tourists that patronize your violent country.even your parks and reserves stink of violence,thievery and corruption.why,i seem to that remember krugers park is the poaching headquaters of the world.SA has an influx of tourist 'cos of the culture.

DieVluit:
Don't put words in my mouth.Tourism can never be about a mountain alone;or a burial sight alone.If it were,then you would've been able to show me the numbers and awards.Tourism is about an ENTIRE VALUE CHAIN,which South Africa has and Nigeria does not have,which is why South Africa has these awards:
1.South Africa was especially praised for their safari offering,with the country as a whole winning the prize for the the World's Leading Safari Destination!
2.Legend Golf & Safari Resort won World's Leading Safari Resor
3.Shamwari Game Reserve's Eagles Crag Lodge won World's Leading Eco-Lodge.
4.Shambala Private Reserve won for being the World's Leading Private Game Reserve
5.Thanda Private Game Reserve was awarded the World's Leading Luxury Lodge
6.Johannesburg's Saxon Hotel,Villas and Spa won as the World's Leading Boutique Hotel for the 15th consecutive year

LOL,i do not feed you words,you keep chanting litanies of your awards,just tell us how many heritage sites you have

DieVluit:
You'd be proud too If your country kept getting tourism award after award, but it doesn't. So, you don't know the feeling.

awards that you were given out of pity.that a few charity organizations decided to make you feel useful by concocting a few of meaningless glass and wooden awards to satisfy your plummeting ego,doesnt really mean that SA hold the key to the heart of every tourists.seeing that you no longer have a coherent economy to boast of,you can as well munch on your wooden award.winning awards is just an accumulation of polished wood and more money to the carpenter's pocket,the real deal is the adventure you can offer tourists,tourist feed on attraction and adventure,and aside from a few demolished bantu villages,SA has no centre of adventure,no reflection of history to offer tourists.

DieVluit:
Touristworthy as measured by the NUMBER of how many tourists going to those countries vs the number of tourists going to South Africa?
Tourism is hardly about one or two landmarks in a country.Tourism is about the landmarks and also.Tourism is about the roads tourists will drive in.The hotels they will stay in.The facilities they can use.The networks and support they can access.The ability to access information.The conveniences.Good air travel.It's about the ease with which they can see the things that they want to see.Being touristworthy is about packaging attraction points in a convenient way for tourist.If these countries(and Nigeria) were more touristworthy than South Africa,tourist would be going there,but they aren't.
Only a few people want to ride a camel to go see the scrolls of Timbuktu,my boet.

ogbéni,you are wrong.tourism isnt about roads and skyscrapers,its about adventure and mystery,its about camels and haunted gazeboes,about nature and its beauty.

DieVluit:
Touristworthy in whose eyes because the numbers say otherwise?
And who holds more world heritage sites and official modern day 7 wonders?
Let alone other tourist attractions, some man made others natural.You can't deny SA's place as a top tourist attraction, no matter how hard you try. It's just the way it is.You think if those places were so much better,the world wouldn't go there and leave SA alone?
The world ACTUALLY and FACTUALLY goes to SA.The "wonderful" nigeria doesn't even feature

yes tourist worthy;
ethiopia has the most UNESCO world heritage site in africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia
tanzania is home to africa's tallest mountain
what about egypt?,egypt has the nile{upper and lower nile},the pyramids in the valley of kings,the monuments of pharaohs,the great pyramid of giza,the temples of egyptian gods/goddesses,the great sphinx in giza,an so much much more
uganda is home to the "mountains of the moon"
nigeria has tinapa,sheba's tomb,argungu etc.

mzilakazi:
I guess here is truth. Stop bringing in blogs which are drawn from a personal point of view
http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/africas-top-five-most-travelled-to-cities/41315/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+HowWeMadeItInAfrica+(How+We+Made+It+In+Africa)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

ethiopia,tanzania and egypt are more tourist-worthy than SA can ever hope to be.those places hold the oldest antiquities as they are faded symbol{shadow} of the mighty empires and civilizations that once shook the world,and are home to the most facinating tourism sites.
do you know,m'boy,that the burial site of Queen Sheba I of Axum{who was an empress of axum empire},mother of the great emperor Menelik I,emperor of axum,and controversial son of King solomon I of isreal,is in nigeria.indeed,Queen Sheba's grave is in nigeria,did you know?,and that is just one of our priceless and coveted tourist sites.in calabar,we have tinapa and more!

check out this amusing and highly entertaining thread,some folks are already suffering from schizophrinia ahead of next year's election:
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https://www.nairaland.com/2067311/gov-fashola-worships-jaobulin-hes

DieVluit:
What the hell is a powerhouse bra? And what is the basis for your "powerhouse" story. Your powerhouse story is even worse than the argument in aids. How can a country be a "powerhouse" if it doesn't have power within its own borders? Let alone outside? Please tell me that.

How is the "power" that you talk about exercised for you to sing the "powerhouse" song?

And Kenya contributes "only" 5% of total aids deaths.

LOL.

kgr28:
You are the reason there a dumb people in the world!!

forgive me.i was just being sarcastic.

GERALD710:
You are a person Retard
A.Kenya tourist zones have low HIV rates.The highest incidence of HIV in Kenya is in Western and Nyanza areas.There are almost no National parks there
B.There are gay people in Kenya.Just like there are in Nigeria and every country.This lie about gays using pampers..You must be a semi-illiterate.Who told you tourism has anything to do with gay people.Tourism in Kenya has brought so many benefits.Like top class hotels and facilities.employment,building links with Europe and the US which makes it easy for Kenyans to move abroad,Foreign exchange and getting the chance to meet people from all over the world.

A.you are the semi-illiterate if you dont know that in the past 10 years,the number of people infected with HIV in kenya has dramatically increase{i'll post link later}
B.number of ga_ys in kenya is one of highest in africa.and SOME ga_ys do use pampers,especially those who are fond of having se_x without proper lubrication and preparation

mzilakazi:
Nigeria's tourist industry is up to scratch. Kenya is much much better.

*scoffs*,and how has tourism bettered kenya?,>>
*increase rate of spread of HIV/AIDS
*high number of people,especially young men,with AIDS and other STDs
*in kenya,'pampers' business really pays,they've got massive number of ga_ys,and due to some rather unfortunate consequences,their guys cant control their anu$es anymore,due to the promiscous acts of many tourists who view africa as a ga_y brothel.so any poo,spills.

DieVluit:
My man, it's dire my outtie.

The present and future of HIV, Nigeria. The said thing is that they are the loudest about HIV. Now it's swallowing them.

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"Of particular interest to Jean Anderson of the Johns Hopkins Medical Institute, Maryland, was the high rate of infection through blood transfusion and mother-to-child transmission, despite the fact that such forms of transmission are easily preventable.

A United Nations report last year had also described Nigeria as the country with the highest number of children living with the virus in the world. The report said in part, “Nigeria has the largest number of children acquiring HIV infection, nearly 60,000 in 2012 — a number that has remained unchanged since 2009.”


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These guys have no clue what they are doing.

thats because of our population.

mzilakazi:
Get tested because AIDS in Nigeria is flying like nobody's business.
http://www.punchng.com/editorial/nigerias-high-hivaids-prevalence-rate/

tut tut.mr kazi,have you been tested for HIV/AIDS,gonorreah & syphlis and other STDs?.test yourself,and come back with concluding results.SA is the STD capital of the world!

mzilakazi:
AIDS is your buddy in Nigeria. Get tested.



http://www.punchng.com/editorial/nigerias-high-hivaids-prevalence-rate/

nonsense,there is no AIDS in nigeria

iterator24:
oga we get tall buildings too hahaha

of course,we've got numerous skyscrapers too.

iterator24:
I told him already, we aint competing

i tire o,we know they've got skyscrapers and all.what we are saying is that they should accept the fact that they are a crime ridden,HIV infested country.simple!.