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Centrifude:
Dude you know nothing about South Africa's media, I highly doubt that you've read any South African Newspapers, because then you would know how brutally honest those guys are, our media isn't censored or controlled, if it was controlled then the ANC wouldn't be trying so hard to pass the Secrecy Bill, they want to control our media, because they know that our guys say whatever they want.

indeed now?,what a pity then,because any sensible media should be censored!,the amount of information and secrets each country has to hide could be used against such a country in a diplomatic spat{or even in a time of war}.i'm all for freedom of speech and media rights,but the line has to be drawn somewhere!.

Your words are a disorganised waste of life's precious moments by an angry lunatic. Not worth addressing.
Meanwhile, the "bad" media is at it again:
(CNN) - Boko Haram laughed off Nigeria's announcement of a ceasefire agreement, saying there is no such deal and the abducted schoolgirls have been converted to Islam and married off.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/01/world/africa/nigeria-boko-haram-denies-deal/
We all know who actually fed the world propaganda about a non-existent ceasefire. Clue? It was not CNN that originated that non-story.

http://www.naij.com/309252-president-obama-reacts-to-fg-boko-haram-ceasefire-deal.html
why would obama confirm the cease fire between nigeria and boko-haram if it didnt exist?,foolish illerate,boko haram has many units,of course it was inevitable that not all the break away cells will agree to the cease fire,even if the cease fire were to to enacted,there would still be some pockets of isolated violence.i never supported the cease fire anyway.

vandalZA:
are you talking about a one billion dollar deal.......wen south Africa spend $100billions to build 8 nuclear power stations with France and Russia.......looool keep celebrating small thing Nigerians are you talking about a one billion dollar deal.......wen south Africa spend $100billions to build 8 nuclear power stations with France and Russia....looool keep celebrating small thing Nigerians

you must be one of those illiterate ghanaians who come on NL to vomit rubb*sh instead of facing the puff-puff business they came to nigeria to do.who told you that SA has spent $100 billion on 8 nuclear reactors?,fool,SA has only two,half-baked nuclear power plants,which still generates under 1% of SA's power.they are just seeking to build new nuclear plants,they just recently made a nuclear deal with russia to generate about 9.6GW of power,a project that could span over 20-30 years,you need research.nigeria also made such a nuclear deal with russia in 2012,iran 2014,so?

@dievlait,the novel you wrote is meaningless,you call the NA weak and cowardly,but what about the SANDF,a defence force:
(i)that was sent out of CAR after been stripped,smacked around and kicked in the butt like naughty dogs.the SANDF ran out of CAR with tail firmly tucked between trembling legs,back home.
(ii)that begged the cubans for a cease-fire after a bunch of cuban schoolgirls and adolescent boys connived with angolan cavemen to beat them purple and send them running bare-footed back to pretoria.
(iii)cant protects its rhinos from a bunch of greedy thieves
(iv)cant protects their immediate neighbours from pirates
i could go on listing the ills of your so called defence force,but i'm rather very busy.at least the NA hasnt lost or conceded defeat in any warfare or regional conflict.you can froth and huff and puff as much as you want,but typing thinnly veiled insults,which you had thought were 'intelligently' concealed does not bother me.even your president confessed that saffers were daft and lazy

yuncka:
Nigeria
Biafra
Bokorepublic

of course we nigerians are known to be smart.but sadly,a few people still wallow in gross mediocrity,sad indeed.

can you predict the top 10 military superpowers in the next 15 years?,personally,the below list is my prediction:
China
Russia
USA
Germany
North Korea
UK
Isreal
South Korea
France
Japan.
What is your opinion?,will power change hands before 2030?,will military power shift from the west?,will NATO crumble?.render your opinion.

DieVluit:
You're angry because you cant organise your thoughts. You make zero sense.
Why would Western media lie about Nigerian soldier fleeing, you were asked. You talk about Obama and Cameron and the Nigerian opposition and corruption and the anc and the planet of Zod in the outer galaxies.
You have no answer, my friend. Even trying to dissect this disorganised mess you want to call an argument would be a waste of my sleep.

ah...of course,how could i forgotten that you were a ret@rd,it appears you come from the medieval ages,because anybody that exists in this century will see sense in my post.all saffers do is lick and sniff the arrse of the west.no wonder your molester president was near tears when cameron refused to attend to him personally,cameron practically told him not to set foot in britain or his visit would be treated as a private visit,without protection or means to even protect himself.of course zuma threw a tantrum as he wasnt allowed to beg for money.

DieVluit:
What has this gotta do with the price of cheese in China? I don't see the relevance or even the link to where you started.

Anyway, I didn't know that Nigerian political parties could influence Reuters and BBC and that they could be used to "distract people from Obama's and Cameron's foolishness" (your words). I think Nigeria is then the third force in global politics.



Your answer to the question why the media would lie is weak and disorganised because in reality, you have no answer.

the media do post out misleading reports,there have been instances where a particular news agency report unconfirmed speculation or assumption,then later come back to retract their statement,some of them dont even bother retracting their claims,so what are you saying?,thing is,the media is fickle.

DieVluit:
What has this gotta do with the price of cheese in China? I don't see the relevance or even the link to where you started.
Anyway, I didn't know that Nigerian politics parties could influence Reuters and BBC and that they could be used to "distract people from Obama's and Cameron's foolishness" (your words). I think Nigeria is then the third force on global politics.
Your answer to the question why the media would lie is weak and disorganised because in reality, you have no answer.

c*mm-gulping fool,political decisions influence the local media which in turn influence the international media,where do you think the media reports come from?,of course,you wouldnt understand,afterall you saffers only know what ANC has pumped into your brains through the media.BBC and reuters are always reluctant in reporting the wrongs of western governments,they focus much negative media reports on africa,asia and the middle east,well about obama/camerons' foolishness,ISIS/ISIL??

andrewza:
Yet if the weakest of the 3 breaks of (SACP) anc looses the elecstion. Not to menstion the ANC is a democratic orginastion in it's own.

And don't try and comparie SA and Nigerias state corrupstion. The world knows how bad nigeria is.

SA runs an almost fascist political system,with a weak{almost non-existent} opposition,and a grossly corrupt government.point of correction,nigeria isnt as corrupt as it was 10 years ago,the foreign media still rates nigeria in context of the past.nigeria isnt even near the most corrupt countries.

andrewza:
the ANC only rules because of the tripartaded alliance

hmm...and yet when the ACN,ANPP,CPC,DPP and others converged and formed an alliance to become the APC,that still didnt make them the ruling party{though they hold a good deal of legislative power and state executive positions},the PDP still retain executive power{on the federal level} and a substantial legislative backing.in SA,thats a different story,ANC{zuma} embezzles and waste money,and also r*pe young girls with impunity,that goes to show the state of your political structure.

DieVluit:
You speak as if the Nigerian media is lying, which is not true. Why would all or most media houses lie? The image is definitely battered, with multiple news of soldiers fleeing, human right abuses, mutiny in the barracks etc.
South Africa media reports EVERYTHING, so you don't really have to imagine. Everything is out in the open and we South Africans have no issue with that. We welcome it.
As for morale, Nigerian soldiers themselves have complained of low morale, so it is a problem. http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-soldiers-complain-of-poor-welfare-motivation/

SA is different from nigeria,in SA the political atmosphere is abysmal at best,with an almost one-sided ANC dominated government,while in nigeria the political atmosphere is diverse and competitive,the PDP has different views from the APC,APGA,UPN,CCNP,Accord party etc.these parties can influence different parts of the media{western included}.that article is outdated,the military's morale is high.

DieVluit:
Maybe it will be retaken, but the damage to morale and image is already done. This is not any other town, there's a military base there and soldiers fled the base, leaving weapons behind.

A military that is inaccessible to the media becomes a repressive military. As long as actual operations are kept secret, there's no harm in reporting on things like Mubi, which are reported on after the fact.

hmm...perhaps,but i dont think morale is a problem for the NA,and point of correction,the NA's image is not damaged,if the NA has a damaged image,then i can only imagine what the image of the SANDF is like.the media is causing more harm than good with their destructive reports,especially the western media that continually uses these false news to distract people from obama and camerons' foolishness.

Boko haram will surely be put to rout,mubi will soon be retaken.the NA shouldnt be giving the media access to military operations,military information should only be deceminated to the public by the DHQ.personnally,i'm of the opinion that the media shouldnt be allowed to report or witness anything about military operations going on in the NE.

ActivateKruger:
You have zero respect for gramma, I simply loose appetite to even answer you.

City or no city, it's another human settlement that now belongs to Boko Haram courtesy of the Nigerian Armed Forces.

why cant your brain{however tiny it is} process common sense at all,no part of nigeria belongs to terrorists.yes they may temporarily occupy a tiny part now,but they will eventually be put to rout.as for the typing errors,i was in a rush while typing this morning because i was very busy today,some of us have a life outside NL y'know.

why is this fool called zuma embarrasing africa by seeking that albino named cameron's attention?,when america and EU refused to sell military hardware to us,we simply contacted russia,and china.while this isnt a lasting solution{really,we should begin to make our own weapons},it simply makes a statement that we dont rely on the west(or east for that matter).

DieVluit:
Because the fall of Nigerian cities to BH is not even newsworthy anymore. No longer a shock.
But when the NA kills terrorists...now there's a shock worthy of headlines!

how foolish can you get?,so in your mind mubi is a city?*scoffs*,let me educate you,moment before the attack,the NA troops withrew from mubi{it was most likely due to covert intelligence},hours later boko haram fighters came into mubi,with minimal resistance.then,in a few hours later the airforce base at yola begins operation and dispersed figher jets that are enroute adamawa state.what does that sound like to you?,these terrorists are been drawn out into the open so as to maximize the impact of their firepower against them and minimize civilian casualties,do your shallow memory remember that last week the DHQ ordered all army personnel to stand down,and cease-fire?,a faction of boko haram didnt honour the cease-fire and they are causing havoc,duh?.unlike dumb SANDF,NA do strategize.

andrewza:
you do know that there are SA aid workers in the ebola hot zones, south sudan and somlia and SA provides concribil support to these regions. SA can only support 3000 solders beyond SA. any more and we over work our solders. To many deployments wear troops and gear out

link and citation please,because i have neither seen,nor heard about SA deploying aid workers in ebola zones.it is commendable that you admit that you people cannot deploy more than a paltry 3000 soldiers abroad.nigeria has much more than that number scattered all over liberia,mali,seirra leone,somalia,cote d'ivoire and south sudan,that is what african solidarity is about.when the time to elect an african UN permanent security council member comes,nigeria is surely the best candidate.

patches689:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Great joke, what is your next one?

what joke are you blabbering about?,pray tell me,how is a country with the best and most powerful ISTAR aircraft force,and also has a spy satellite in lower space that is capable of penetrating semi-opaque medium and capturing images at almost reflex speed,not the most secured airspace in africa?.do you know how many satellites nigeria has launched into space for airspace defense and surveillance under our space programmes?,do you know how much goes to NAMA a year?,do you know how trained our space defence,surveillance and management agency is?.indeed,i realise that you are butthurt like dievluit would say,not only are you butthurt,but you're d*ckhurt.poof.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/169909-iran-offers-nuclear-technology-to-nigeria.html iran is offering nuclear technology,for 'peaceful' of course,if we begin utilizing this technology,mostly for power generation at present,in the future,when we are economically potent and influential enough to weather down the combined sanctions of western powers,we could covertly use some of the nuclear reactors in propagating a nuclear trigger,and we all know nuclear trigger=nuclear bomb in a few months. http://www.armyrecognition.com/nigeria_uk/nigeria_nigerian_army_land_ground_forces_military_equipment_armoured_vehicle_pictures_information_de.html this site contain a list of some of the NA weapons{though not an updated list as it didnt make mention of many new inventories like the helicopters,and tanks},but mentions a significant few.nigeria has the best aerial defence in africa,and has the most secured airspace.nigeria is the only african country with cloud-penetrating spy satallite.why do saffers bother?

overhypedsteve:
going by the situation in other regions like europe Asia and the caribean you may be right. But may i remind you that africa can easily be classified as a nation of people binded together by a common skin colour, common history, common failures, common struggle, common injuries and common victories i.e. the victory over slavery, colonialism, apathied , racism and economic woes of newly independent states. We re unique my good friend. You cannot compare the bond that binds african states with that of any other nations on earth except the Arabs

african bond surpassed that of any other continent or region?,what of the european union?,the NATO?,africans by nature are extremely independent people,if african bond was the best why hasnt SA sent aid,health officials into ebola zone?dlamani zuma that is preaching african solidarity,where is SA or egypt aid in somalia,libya and south sudan.even the north africans consider themselves arabs!.we need integration like NATO

DieVluit:
How can we? Because

http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21627646-africas-lodestar-nation-has-weathered-ebola-extremist-takeover-has-exposed?fsrc=scn/tw/te/pe/ed/anationdivided

Outdated and poorly researched articles does not carry any weight,isnt it this same 'poorly fed and underequipped' troops that have been pushing boko haram back into gwoza and sambisa forest in the past three months?,if the NA didnt have jets and helicopters as alleged by the article,what are they using in their continous bombardment and aerial assault in the north-east,the air force has conducted over 5000 aerial bombardment on boko haram bases and hideouts,in the last five months,i say again,what are they using in conducting these assaults?,kites?,hot-air balloons?...seriously,you embarrase yourself whenever you attempt to think and then write.no wonder south africa has stagnated!

really,saffers on this thread must be getting really desperate,to resort to so much lies and half truths.how can you call a country that is spending over N1trillion{approx:$7billion} + a $1billion supplementary in 2014,is has a weak and underequipped military?,how can a nation that is giving advanced training to its troops in advanced military nations of the world,a weak nation?,if the current military budget were to continue over the span of the next 10 years,then the NAmF is going to be the most powerful military of the continent.even now most african nations cannot match us in sheer firepower,if the whole ECOWAS countries were ally together to fight nigeria,we will simply make quick work of them,they know that,thats why the ghanaian military chief said "an unstable nigeria,is an unstable west africa,it also spells doom for africa.that can never be allowed",can the same be said of SADAC?,tanzania alone will pose more than enough threat to SA.south africa can never lead the black race,its a puppet nation!

DieVluit:
You only realised you had no use for it after you'd lost it? What a joke.

See my post to Auguby above.

It is too late for me to read your book at this time.

you tell so much lies,that even you dont know whats true anymore,why dont you annex lesotho?,seeing that you practically surround the country.e-clown.anyway,lies are over for today,try your luck tomorrow.aloha.

DieVluit:
The post you're responding to says nothing about Biafra. Doubt you can accuse others of typing nons*nse.
As for when did cameroon take your land, I'm sure that's a trick question so I'll treat it as such.
Bakassi belongs to cameroon today. Nigeria was not happy when that happened. Cameroon got your girlfriend and then went on to help you fight the bully that's boko haram.
Sucks being you.

we ceded bakassi,we didnt have so much use for it anyway,the oil in bakassi was not even a nano-fraction of that in the niger-delta,cross river,akwa-ibom,lagos,edo,ondo,imo and abia states plus those almost uncountable oil fields offshore on the nigerian waters all over the gulf of guinea and bight of bonny.unlike some nations,we are peace loving people,but if we want bakassi in the future,we can always annex it(just like some senators suggested recently).what do you mean tha cameroon is helping us with terrorists?,they are helping themselves by deploying troops at their border.

DieVluit:
Maybe. Maybe not.
But the comical Igirigi can never match that superior product in the picture.
Auguby, how much did it hurt when Cameroon took a piece of your land?

do you just stretch your fingers to type any nonsense that occur to you?,when did cameroon 'take' a piece of our land?,nigeria ceded and withrew troops from bakassi upon the ruling of the ICC,the bakassi peninsula was originally signed to cameroon by general yakubu gowon during the civil war,in exchange for cameroon to close its border on biafra,and prevent the biafrans from getting food,but it was forgotten for a while,until oil was discovered in the peninsula,cameroon was quick to lay claim,nigeria refused to cede bakassi,mobilized and deployed troops to the peninsula,cameroon took nigeria to ICC,cameroon had evidence of the agreement with nigeria,ICC urged nigeria to honour the agreement,nigeria then withdrew troops.if nigeria wanted to wrestle bakassi from cameroon,we wouldnt even need to try

DieVluit:
We know who lost what. You denied that the hapless Nigerians were fighting an overmatched Biafra.

The BASIS of your denial is OUTSTANDING.

Until you post that, you have no business trying to be listened to because you're a clown who says things he can't support.

go back and read my post,i never denied that the NA overmatched the biafran army,i only alluded that biafra presented themselves as formidable foes.seriously,are you sure you arent taking to much pap?

overhypedsteve:
try to help us with documentations of casualties on the nigerian sides to validate your point at least since the biafran side stayed on the dark during the war.

the nigerian military lost about 25,000-50,000 soldiers,the total number of military casualities was well over 100,000 soldiers,while over 2,000,000 civilians died.that was how tough and bloody the war was,and these saffers will come here to talk about wars and experience,they havent seen war!,they call the angolan skirmish a war?!,such a preposterious claims! http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/biafra.htm

DieVluit:
Long and wide you've written, but not a single point have you made.

You have been asked to show how the Biafrans stacked up against the Nigerians in terms of equipment.

You've failed to do that.
Now answer the question or sit in the naughty corner. Your choice.
How MANY of each? The question is simple enough.

you should do your research before embarrasing yourself,the biafran army had the vintage B26 Bomber jet,they also made IEDs,rifles and bombs locally due to crippling sanctions place on then by nigeria,the war wasnt documented in details,especially on the biafran side,so the exact number of weapons and military gadgets cant be ascertained,due to necessity and desperation they created the locally made weapon of mass destruction they dubbed "ogbunigwe",how else do you think they sustained the war for two and a half years,they were under heavy sanctions,blockade and constant assualt!.the renown 'ogbunigwe' was capable of wiping out troops in hundreds!

DieVluit:
Long and wide you've written, but not a single point have you made.

You have been asked to show how the Biafrans stacked up against the Nigerians in terms of equipment.

You've failed to do that.
Now answer the question or sit in the naughty corner. Your choice.
How MANY of each? The question is simple enough.

you should do your research before embarrasing yourself,the biafran army had the vintage B26 Bomber jet,they also made IEDs,rifles and bombs locally due to crippling sanctions place on then by nigeria,the war wasnt documented in details,especially on the biafran side,so the exact number of weapons and military gadgets cant be ascertained,due to necessity and desperation they created the locally made weapon of mass destruction they dubbed "ogbunigwe",how else do you think they sustained the war for two and a half years,they were under heavy sanctions,blockade and constant assualt.the renown 'ogbunigwe' was capable of wiping out troops in hundreds!

DieVluit:
"How many jets" was the question.

Don't give us videos. Give us numbers.

Thanks.

Further questions asked: How many MBT's? How many feild guns? Did they have advanced AA missiles?

now now dievlaut,be reasonable,dont disgrace your countrymen with your ignorance,because i dont understand how you can be talking about 'advanced technology' in africa in the 60's!,what AA missiles are you talking about?,biafra was funded and supported by france,and canada,they had their own jets too,though they didnt have enough trained pilots to make very effective use of them,please try to research before you dole out false claims.

patches689:
No, I have realized your are an slowpoke and arent worthy of my time.

Tell me, did Biafra have jet fighters? How many MBT's? How many feild guns? Did they have advanced AA missiles?

Finally, the Biafran war involved only 150 000 men

The war in Angola involved some 308 000 men

Do some research, clown

the biafran army while not as well equipped as the nigerian army,they were no slouch either,let me humor you,here is a list of some of the weapons and tanks they used: saladins,saracens,ferrets,OTO-Melara,M-56,105mm field hotwitzers,FN MAG GPMGs,G-3s,58CETMEs,FN FALs,MG-42/59,spanish 81mm ECIA mortars,czech mausers,VZ-52 semi-auto rifles and so on.check out some of the tanks on youtube http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ReFoFp0Gs&feature=PlayList&p=1845A5A532977745&index=0&playnext=1 really,you shouldnt expose your ignorance for people to see.the angolan war was a war of farmers and school girls,number doesnt matter.