Indispensable85:


Una eye go soon clear. How will Oshiomhole suffer if Monday Okpebholo loses the election? Lol 🤣🤣🤣 I just dey laff u.

Monday Okpebholo has since lost this election. Asue Ighodalo is even closer to Oshiomhole than Okpebholo. Save this comment.

Even Denco that seem like his hope of getting anything substantial from the two ovia does not seem like one that will reconcile with him because of the feeling of being cheated he has

Raf4:


Who asked you all this tori? You go explain tire.

she is a Benin girl shikena, story nor dae there

Raf4:


Ayo na Edo name?

Nor be Edebiri be her papa name? Abi you nor hear say her paternal grandmother na Yoruba? Could that not have influenced the Ayo? But that does not change where she is paternally from

DOptical:


Oduduwa as an Orisha has no sex. He can be referred to as a god or goddess. He's simply called Orisha in Yoruba. Sink that into your Igbo cannibal skull who keeps crying over the Yoruba which is no business of yours.

As Oduduwa the king, even faraway Benin republic know who Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are.

Oduduwa the king that Ajayi crowther in his 82 years of existence never wrote about. Not even for once. I see and sense fraud

DOptical:


Oduduwa Orisha is of no sex. He's neither male nor female. Sink that into your useless Igbo cannibal skull crying over Yoruba which is not your business to begin with. Oduduwa and Obatala are one entity without sex who created the earth. Just like Ela/Jewesun, the only begotten child of Olodumare has no sex either.

As I said, even the faraway Benin republic know who Oduduwa the king is.

Oduduwa is a goddess. There is no oduduwa the king, never lived, never Existed. Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are myth. There is no greater truth than what i just told you.


Source : vocabulary of the Yoruba language by Samuel ajayi crowther. He was born in Osogun present day Oyo state. He was a part of the Egba tribe of the Yoruba. He was born in 1809 and died in 1891. After his death, Oduduwa metamorphosed into a man in the hands of dubious Yoruba historians

DOptical:


Frustrated Igbo cannibal dolt still crying as usual over what's not his business, even when the thread was about fake drinks to begin with.

Even the faraway Benin republic know who Oduduwa is.

They know her as the goddess that she is, she is a goddess that metamorphosed into a man in the hands of quack Yoruba historians, Oduduwa never lived. Never for once existed. A false mythical tale that was meant to give you guys false unity. She was a goddess in the 19th century that metamorphosed in the hands of quack Yoruba historians

DOptical:



Better still, let me add that it was Obatala and his descendants who were ruling IFE until Oduduwa of Oke Ora was also chosen by IFA to rule.

So just as IFA stated that both Obatala and Oduduwa (both are actually one entity💤💤) founded IFE through light and matter in the esoteric sense since Obatala represents light while Oduduwa represents God's black matter/earth soil formation, from which human was also created (first man was a black man too), this also means the same in the reality sense of it because Obatala and his descendants ruled in IFE as the intellectual enlightenment, visual and creative arts of IFE while Oduduwa ruled as the stability art of IFE. It was during Oduduwa reign that the intellectual enlightenment, visual and creative arts of Obatala became much stable and structuralised, even as creative & visual arts became much prominent of Oduduwa's reign. Basically, Obatala and Oduduwa reigned as kings in IFE, even as they're also Orishas. IFA is indeed deep!

Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are myth. Never happened. Never became a realistic occurrence. The Story was crafted to give you guys false unity. Oduduwa is a goddess, not a male deity

DOptical:


Usenokpevbo and Roger3D's, Okada691, Igbo cannibal, in your bid to disguise to say gibberish without facts unwarranted about the Yoruba, you ended up even trashing the Bini while forgetting the fact that you were disguising as Bini 😅

No be Yoruba asked you to be cannibal! Get your coward lame self off my mention.

I am telling you it is more than that. Since you have decided to be foolish.


You disguised as Bini to attack another tribe as the cowards that you are. You were having erection as Bini was been bashed , but when the truth came out, your phallus shrank and you became angry that the truth came out coward

DOptical:


No, I know your monikers. Usenokpevbo and Roger3D's, Okada691. In your foolishness, you had even used Usenokpevbo to quote me twice. You immediately deleted the second post after you realised that I called you out on the first post.

Anyway, your useless hateful cowardly self should stop wailing over the Yorubas unwarranted. No be Yoruba do you!

you are a low self esteemed fool who clutches at straw for survival.

Lastly you guys should not be cowards, nor be Bini do you. Attack whoever you wish to attack with your full chest and your tribe

Grit2943:
I guess that I was erroneously mentioned in this conversation.

i said he should just add you to the names he is calling since he is been a slowpoke

DOptical:


Roger3D's, Okada691 stop transferring aggression on the Yorubas who did nothing. It's not Yoruba fault that Igbo were cannibals!

You have lost the argument, lost steam and i think it is time to leave you.

Next time, add la1, saddler, changedman 1999 , areafada2 and so on. You are a slowpoke who is now clutching at straws to survive. Fight your fight with your chest m. Do t involve the Binis, i will not be involved with your useless activities

DOptical:


Still crying over your foolishness and cowardice and the fact that Igbo has no history? 😅 Roger3D's, Okada691 stop transferring aggression on the Yorubas who did nothing!

Get your useless cannibal self off my mention!

the Yorubas disguised as Binis so that Binis will be bashed. I busted the imposter, is that what is hurting you, fight your fight with your full chest cowards

DOptical:


Still crying over your foolishness? 😅Roger3D's, Okada691

Get your useless cannibal self off my mention!

Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are trash stories, they never existed, they only exist in the minds of those who crafted the poorly crafted narratives, you guys are uncivilized apes. You don’t have the capacity of civilizing yourselves let alone civilizing other people. Add grit2943 to it, changedman1999 and saddler.

DOptical:


Okada691, get your useless cannibal self off my mention!

Oduduwa and Oranmiyan stories are trash m, you guys are uncivilized apes, you don’t have the capacity of civilizing yourselves let alone extending to other people

DOptical:


Igbo cannibal, get your stupid cowardly self off my mention I say.

that line will not work, you have lost steam, you are a weak man.

Your Oduduwa and Oranmiyan story are trash, go and look for any two year old to tell that to

DOptical:


You know your first Biafra, it was banjo a Yoruba who led all the successful battle until he was betrayed and murdered by Igbo cannibal, Ojukwu. That was the start of Biafra demise who started losing, even as they wanted to steal lands through ethnic cleansing and were dealt with!

that line will not work, go and argue that with an Igbo, i turned two on Nairaland last year, go and check my previous posts, they are 90% percent Bini and ten percent elsewhere. Did i disguise for two years to have this argument with you? Weak Yoruba man

DOptical:


Igbo cannibal, get your stupid cowardly self off my mention!

yoruba coward and bastard get your cowardly humiliated self away, you are angry i stifled the very aim of bashing Bini. If you wish to attack another people, use your full chest, use your full chest, Yoruba cowards everywhere

DOptical:


Useless brain, you saw the Yoruba names yet you're still crying like the frustrated fool that you're? 😅 In fact, some of them are even in Ondo state bearing the same name. Why did you think Butna said his mother (Bose) is Yoruba from Akoko Edo? Heck, his names are Yorubas.

they are not Yorubas, the only Yoruba group in Akoko Edo was imeri and she has been successfully ceded into Ondo state. In a bilingual group, they can choose to identify with whichever group they want to join. Their first language has been studied and seen to be Edo. They are part of Okpamheri and they are Edos

DOptical:


See the unwarranted roundabout about Yoruba again. Your useless self can't face the Igbo because you're an Igbo cannibal disguising as a Bini, get your useless self off my mention!

You Yoruba coward and slowpoke, the main reason why that scuffle started out in the first place was your Yoruba bastard brother who was not confident enough to use his tribe to attack or say his mind about what he wanted to say as the usual cowards that you guys are . I unraveled the identity of the Yorubastard and the scuffle died down

DOptical:



And yeah, Oranmiyan is Oduduwa's great grand who was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini as requested by the Bini. All these are verified facts! Not your stupidity!

Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not exist, it is only in the Figments of the imagination of those who crafted the poorly organized story that they existed. Yorubas themselves are uncivilized apes, they couldn’t have given what they don’t have

DOptical:



On your unwarranted rants without facts about Yoruba when the thread was about drinks, this was the first quote calling out the Bini. It was an Igbo guy calling out the Bini but since your cowardly stupid self was disguising as a Bini, you started attacking the Yoruba unwarranted. Your useless self didn't even face the Igbos calling out the Bini Because you're no Bini!

the innate reason he called out Bini was because your slowpoke Yoruba brother disguised as Bini, and it was about to turn to a bashing ground for you all for Binis, he did not know that the Person that wrote that was Yoruba, he wouldn’t have attacked Bini

DOptical:


You're the cowardly idiot crying about Yoruba unwarranted when the thread was about fake drinks. You're the one frustrated while disguising as Bini 😅

On the Akoko Edo, the Aiyegunle, Ikiran Ile, Ikiran Oke, Ikakumo (some parts are in Ondo), Ogbe, Ojaja, Ojah, Anyonron etc are Yorubas. Sink that into your brain.

As for Oranmiyan, he's the great grand of Oduduwa was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini as requested by the Bini. All these are verified facts! Not your stupidity!

there is no group with Yoruba first languages in Akoko Edo, Their first languages are Okpamheri, those groups are Okpamheri groups. Okpamheri is made up of twenty three villages and those groups are part of them. Okpamheri is an Edo group.

I did not come into this group unwarranted, i came to rewrite the false history your folks are parading here. It only pains you now that an Edo is standing up to you continuously, it was about fake drinks but you guys turned it to a bashing thread for Edos because that slowpoke disguised as one, you are only infuriated now because i did not allow it and stood up to you guys.


Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not exist, it is a poorly crafted narrative that only exist in the mind of the people who crafted it. The Yorubas are uncivilized apes themselves, they couldn’t have given what they don’t have

DOptical:
On Oduduwa, he's esoteric and there's deep meaning behind his name. The Oduduwa which has got one useless fool without brain to be wailing unwarranted wasn't even the first king of Ife 😅

Obatala was actually the first king of Ife before Oduduwa reign. These are humans who ruled Ife and also have esoteric meaning. In fact, IFA stated that Obatala founded (IFE) before Oduduwa came to complete the creation 💤💤. Obatala means "king of light" while Oduduwa means "God's earth creation/black matter". People with brain know that light and matter are what create the world. Since IFA which stated all that was used emphatically by the Yorubas, it also appoints the kings for them. So after several millennium and IFA was asked to choose a king to rule IFE, IFA chose Obatala among the humans in Ife to become the king of Ife and that was how Obatala became the king of Ife. Later on, it also chose Oduduwa as the king to rule after Obatala and that was how Oduduwa became the king after Obatala. Hence, just as IFA was accurate in its description of the world, its was also accurate in choosing the king to rule Ife. IFA is Yoruba religion which is more than 10000 years old!

So Oduduwa reigned in Ife. His great grand child, Oranmiyan was sent to Bini as requested by the Bini. He was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

oduduwa and Oranmiyan tales are poorly crafted stories that did not exist, she is a Yoruba goddess who was changed into a man for the sake of unity of Yoruba people and to exert false sense of superiority over others by by mischievous Yoruba elite


Yoruba people are uncivilized apes, they cannot give what they don’t have

DOptical:


Another useless trash even when I wasn't talking to your dumb brain who have got no tangible facts to back up your uselessness.

Stop quoting me with your uselessness except you can back up your useless brain with facts!

The Akoko Edo are Yorubas! Just like the Akoko Ondo brothers! Sink that into your brain. However, I would also say the Akoko Edo in Edo state have several groups which are lumped together as Akoko Edo in Edo state. Anyways, it was at the time when the states were being created, some Akoko were cut off into Edo state hence Akoko Edo, just like the Oritsekiri who are Ijebu & Ilaje axis were cut off into another state. These people are core Yorubas!

Aside languages, I focus on where the progenitor come from and also the name of the group. Akoko is a Yoruba name. And the progenitor came from Ife, just like the Akoko in Ondo state.

Oritsekiri is also a Yoruba word (Orishakiri) and also the progenitor is from Ife. They're actually Ijebu and Ilaje axis who speak Ijebu & Ilaje axis of Yoruba language.

The Bini, I don't know their progenitor hence I can't be emphatic on that but what I know is Oranmiyan, the great grand of Oduduwa was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini as requested by the Bini. All these are verified facts! Not your stupidity!

ehya why are you infuriated, because i bust your lies, there is a Yoruba dictionary by Samuel ajayi crowther in the 19th century. Oduduwa was rightly stated as a goddess in that dictionary. Sorry if you can’t take the truth, it is not my fault.


No single group in Akoko Edo are Yorubas not one, Akoko Edo is an umbrella name for Edo group living around the Akoko area of the Yorubas, a study has been carried out on all their first language and not one was said to be Yoruba. Go and read comparative Edoid by Ben Elugbe. Ososo, Okpamheri, Uneme, Akuku, are all Edo groups with Edoid first languages save for igarra which is Ebira.


Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not exist, According to that dictionary Oduduwa was a goddess in the nineteenth century that metamorphosed into a man in the 20th and 21 century by mischievous Yoruba elite for the sake of unity, nothing more, nothing less coward


The Yoruba people are uncivilized apes themselves, bereft of civilization, they couldn’t have given what they don’t have

DOptical:


Well, there are the Olukunmi who are Yorubas. There are also the Oritsekiri who are also Yoruba from the Ijebu and Ilaje axis. So it's not farfetched to think the Bini could be kinda related to the Yoruba, since they requested for a Yoruba Prince, albeit the Bini are a bit different in their language unlike the Oritsekiri who speak Yoruba language although the Bini could have probably lost their language through interaction/interrelation with other tribes, just like some who are also similar but are different in their language.

Anyways, the point was the Bini sent for a Yoruba Prince and after several years of request, Oranmiyan, the great grand child of Oduduwa was eventually sent to Bini as requested. Oranmiyan of Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini. All these are verified facts.

I won't bother about the baseless nonsense without facts by the cowardly idiot disguising as Bini.

there are Ebu which are Igala in anioma, that does not mean the igbos in anioma are Igala. In the northern end of Edo state. There is igarra in Akoko Edo, the only Ebira community living among several Edoid groups in Akoko Edo. That did not change her identity, identity is innate, it does not just switch, olukumi has been with anioma since God knows when, She still manage to retain her dialect,strange groups live side by side everywhere, that does not make them related . Ozanogogo has been with the ika people since God knows when. She is still very well with her dialect.

by every means, Bini is not a little bit different from Yoruba, she is starkly different. A language of its own order belonging to the Edoid race. She is not in anyway related to the Yorubas


Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist. Oduduwa was a Yoruba goddess in the nineteenth century turned into a man for the sake of unity. You cannot request for a king from a people you don’t know

DOptical:


What a stupid dumb rant. We're talking about factual information, not your incomprehensible brain here.

Factual information is the fact that the Igbos were caught with human flesh for rituals at the time when there was nothing like such.

This is different from the Yoruba kings fighting against such foreign cultures in Yorubaland. What a dumb nonentity.

And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

Dont be a fool, if your school offered philosophy and logic, you would know that being caught on camera is not the same as the first to do it. Orji himself met it, the people that taught him were not caught. Oluwo is an authority. He has his ears to the ground. People were complaining at the time of killings by Fulani herdsmen. The Oluwo had to come up to the public to call out a bigger pandemic in Yoruba land which is ritual killings. He had you guys in mind so you guys will not become a minority tribe.


He is a far more worthy authority than you can ever be.

Oduduwa was a goddess in the nineteenth century and is a myth. He only lived in the mind of those who crafted the false history. Yorubas are uncivilized apes, they can’t give what they don’t have

DOptical:


Another useless rants. I told you emphatically that there' was nothing like money ritual in the 90's which is the truth until the aforementioned Igbos were caught with human flesh.

Of course the Yoruba kings are constantly fighting against such foreign cultures which crept into Yorubaland. IFA totally frown against human ritual/human killing except you pull above your boundaries.

And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

they don’t seem like they are fighting it. It is the Oluwo now that is begging them to leave these secret societies so the population of Yoruba land will not reduce. This was a time people were crying about Fulani herdsmen but the Oluwo knew of a bigger pandemic which was taken more souls silently and had to beg them to leave it.


Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist, it is a mythical tale, a poorly crafted one at that. Yorubas are bereft of civilization, they are uncivilized apes and cannot give what they don’t have.

DOptical:


There was nothing like money ritual in the 90's and prior. The likes of Clifford orji, Reverend king, okija shrine etc were the first discovered in the early 2000. Like I stated, it wasn't the first time Igbo were caught with human flesh. The British found Igbo on the trees with Human flesh when the British arrived into Nigeria.

It was the creeping of these culture and several belief into Yorubaland. IFA totally frown against human ritual/human killing except you pull above your boundaries.

And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

can’t you see the screenshot i posted ? Is it igbos that informed kings in Yoruba land to become members of secret societies which the resultant has been ritual killings and ritual killings in the states of Osun and Ogun in yorubaland.


Be very sincere with yourself, ritual killings is as old as time in Yoruba land.


Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist, it was crafted to give you guys pseudo unity. There is nothing truthful about that story. The only truth there is that the poorly crafted story turned Oduduwa from a goddess in the nineteen century into a man in the 21st century.

Yorubas are bereft of civilization, they cannot give what they don’t have.

DOptical:


Another round of tears 😅

Like I always said, I deal in fact, not in stupidity. The Igbo names I mentioned were the first ritualists caught in Nigeria. That's a verified fact which always make you convulse and expose yourself the more. In fact, you unmasked yourself the moment you started saying gibberish without facts about the Yoruba unwarranted when the thread was about fake drinks to begin with. Cowardly idiot!

Anyways, there's nothing like ritual in Yoruba land until several foreign religion/culture started creeping in, which includes the Igbo's love for Human flesh for all sorts of things & greed for money and also the black magic in Islam.

Ifa is against human ritual or killing except you pull above your boundaries like I stated.

And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

Rituals and the love for human skull is so rife among the Yorubas especially the ones of Osun and Ogun descent.

The fact that people that people were caught on camera does not mean they are the first, they are the first to be caught on camera does not mean they are the first to engage in it. These are different things, philosophy and logic in school would have taught you this, i doubt you went to school.

It is not even news, those are not the causes of ritual killings in Yoruba land or the major reasons for it, the Oluwo of Iwo attributed it to secret societies that several kings in Yoruba land belong to. You don’t know these things more than him, for him to have cried out, it is a pandemic , a menace , people go missing every day as a result of ritual killings and the Oba of Iwo has to cry out.


Oduduwa did not exist, there is no fact there, the story is not relatable at the very least. I cannot tell that to any four year old. He or she will bombard me with several questions because the confusion would definitely be enormous. It is a myth

Yorubas are uncivilized barbaric apes. They cannot give what they don’t have

DOptical:


Another round of tears. You can't disguise any further 😅 The Igbo people I mentioned were the first set of ritualists in Nigeria. People who were caught with Human flesh for rituals. Albeit it's not the first time, after all Igbo ancestors were caught on the trees with human flesh. I simply stated fact.

As a matter of fact, there was nothing like money ritual in Yoruba land. I recall my grandmother talking about how people always walked in the dead of night. Even there was this cousin of mine then who was said to always return back home as soon as he was taken to school while he was a child. He always passed through some dark alleys when returning to his house. I doubt if a child can do such today without monitoring. That was the effect of the several foreign beliefs which came into Yoruba land which some started practicing. Hence the advocacy to weed out such such useless nonsensical belief.

Ifa is against human ritual or killing except you pull above your boundaries like I stated.

And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

you are not logical, they are different things. The fact they were caught on camera does not mean they are the first don’t be foolish.

Rituals is so rampant in Osun and Ogun , infact i cannot stay in these two states , Ekiti and Ondo seem to have the same outlook on life like we the Edos. Osun and Ogun is the headquarters of rituals in Nigeria. It is not even news

Yorubas were uncivilized apes who perpetually carried out human rituals, abobaku practice and always cut off the head of their dead kings. They are uncivilized apes, they cannot give what they don’t have

Oranmiyan and Oduduwa are myhtical moonlight tales brought about by by Yoruba Elites for the sake of a pseudo unity among Yoruba people. It never existed

DOptical:


See tears! Was Clifford orji, reverend king not found with human flesh for rituals? Or Okija shrine? I Simply stated facts! Funny my facts keep unmasking you the more 😂

Ifa is against human ritual or killing except you pull above your boundaries like I stated.

And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini.

unmasking me how, you just want to deviate to mask your ignorance. You were the one stating that the Yorubas are the author and the finisher of civilization. And i interrupted telling you that that was egoistic and low self esteemish, making it clear to you that civilization is unique and relative. I brought the Igbo as a people to counter you. Reeling out their own hallmark of civilization.


Out of your ego that was busted, you started pointing out the Flaws in the Igbo Society like if Yoruba was a flawless society. Then I pointed out the flaws in your own tribe. You are crying fowl and giving me a label. The odds are heavily stacked against you. That idea of the Yorubas are the most civilized, they civilized Japan, civilized Somalia. It is egoistic and supremacist in tendencies. I would go at any length to show it to you. Using other examples as case studies. You


He was caught on camera, what about the countless cases of rituals killings in Osun and Ogun that goes unreported in the south west such that the Oluwo of Iwo in 2021 had to ask Yoruba agitators to channel the energy they are using to fight Fulani herdsmen to fight ritual killings in yorubaland because the killings are enormous and it goes undetected.


https://saharareporters.com/2021/02/24/oluwo-yoruba-activists-use-energy-pursuing-herders-address-ritual-killings-south-West


Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist. It exists only in the mind of those that originated the story. The loopholes is so obvious even a two year old would suspect.

The Yorubas are uncivilized apes themselves. They cannot give what they don’t have.

DOptical:


Ifa is against human ritual or human killing except you pull above your boundaries such as land grabbing for example thus self defense.

Of course some people brought different belief to Yorubaland and even useless jazz such as useless money ritual which Ifa is totally against. As a matter of fact, the first people to engage in human ritual in Nigeria is the Igbos such as Clifford orji, Okija shrine and Reverend King. So cut me with the crap.

And yeah, Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king of Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini which civilized Bini. That's a verified fact!

that is a lie, Yorubas have a penchant for the ritual and specifically the skull. How will Clifford Orji be the first to engage in human ritual. Who accounted for those in the preceding centuries to appease the various gods in your land. Ijebu till tomorrow is still the hallmark of ritual in Nigeria. It is common news when you walk anyhow in ijebu, you might get missing and no one would know your whereabouts.

Oduduwa whether being an orisha or whatever did not exist. It is a figments of your imagination. Oduduwa and Oranmiyan is the most poorly crafted story in History that even a 5 year old would thrash it in the can it is a story meant to give you guys a false unity, it has no place in the bearing of reality.


The Yorubas are bereft of civilization themselves they cannot give what they don’t have