₦airaland Forum

Judolisco:
you're d one dat should do d googling here... Start with akoko first

obembet:
I don't need to argue with you... They won't pay money for it.

Judolisco:
Edo akoko

olamike02:
Edo is what then?. That's how you said Edo no be Lagos see how it goes with you. Yoruba is too savvy to even contemplate acquiring regions that will be dragging it backwards.

Felix6:
OK 0. Na you talk am now, when Osimhen pick up form tomorrow to become the Governor of Lagos state, no come dey cry, call am IPOB, or show us picture of e ground father grave in Edo state.

omowolewa:
CAF spoke to him in the Language his spirit understands.

Oseone1:
Victor is a yoruba from Agege

CLEVABOY:
Edo and Yoruba are one family. They don't war against each other.

hotwax:
I don’t want to join the Benin vs Yoruba fight.

All Osho prefix is Ogun name.

I’m a yoruba man, but I believe benin colonized Lagos first during Portuguese slave trade.

But on this one, I need to correct you… Osho os the most popular name in ogun state.

Oshoade, Oshoyinka, Oshosanyi…you don’t need to argue this.

Or give us the meaning of Osho in Edo. You should also know that Edo bears Yoruba name…intact there are Yoruba Edo.

obembet:
Edo is partially Yoruba, some % of them are Yorubas

Tjra:
Too early to give those people Blood pressure na



Correct. Edo state has several provinces and tribes.

But Benin Kingdom is a territory under Yorubaland.

Christistruth03:
You were told that Yorubas don't claim ,Edo like you claim Ikwerre and you said the Edo are not Yoruboid
Then you were told that the Yoruba still don't claim the Yoruboid Igala

Itsekiri are different
Do Igbo and Ikwerre share the same Paramount Traditional Ruler li all Yorubas and the Itsekiri have in the Ooni of Ife?

Christistruth03:
Does Igala being Yoruboid make them Yoruba?

Christistruth03:
Igala is Yoruboid does that make them Yoruba?

Christistruth00:
Let the Ikwerre decide who they are

Imagine Yoruba declaring Edo to be Yoruba'
Is it not disrespectful?

NaijaCrusader:
Forget about Nairaland and the tribal sentiments and banter that go on here. Lots and lots of Yoruba's supported Peter Obi which is why he was able to win Lagos State. It is only natural that Tinubu being a Yoruba man that most of supporters would be Yoruba but you should not because of that fact castigate a whole ethnic group despite the fact they supported Peter Obi whom they saw as a credible election in millions.
The Rufai Useni and Dele Farotimi to mention that some of you celebrate are Yoruba's.
Then you have the young crusaders like Mr Macaroni,Falz etc. Speak against the poster and not against a tribe it will help Nigeria if we can all develop this mentality

darfay:
Can you please sent a link to the image attached

Simbrixton:
but even for your reply you can clearly see Ologbo is itsekiri land

The history of how this land was given to the ikaye is not to be disputed

There was never an enogie in ologbo b4 the 90s

We may have not seen the end of the issue but i am glad the oil companies recognise itsekiri in their dealings at least that is a start

My brother later

Simbrixton:
it is interesting you say this because i fully believe Ologbo and other itsekiri communities like Ajamimogba ekenhuan to name a few should be part of delta state

Obviously the ijaw and urhobo communities can also not be discounted and obviously recently the igbos visited the 8 villages in orhionwon

Thanks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub1zAryVFVM?si=8eDjFj0nw_FWilV3

Simbrixton:
ok bros infact na only 1000 of us remain

Nobody lie reach una sha tomorrow una go still claim say u get descendants for japan

Simbrixton:
proudly Omiwerre

Esan can make the same argument that they are far more numerous than the edos from the table you posted

When we deal with una and chase dat una gay enogie na den u go know say we no small

Simbrixton:
the Ologho did an interview to correct that yeye narrative

Nothing wey dese 2 local government tribe no go talk

divine128:
Esan people have always influenced Lagos state,all the way from slave trade,the name Eko is an Esan word that means camp,that was from slave trade

AKPAMA211:
If history accounts for it as conquest, then it certainly is, history is therefore not emotion bound. We certainly have historical accounts that support invasion and conquests, even the Yoruba historian cited above termed it an invasion. Ayodeji Olukoju is not a Bini man. He is from Oka Akoko and your tribal person.

I am not making things up, unlike your brother who might be told something this minute and the next minute he uses it to quickly form an angle in history that’s totally missing In historical discuss.

Bear in mind i am not on the same wavelength with your brother.

I don’t think there is a need for a back and forth. I am not responding to you Anymore

AKPAMA211:
The conquest happened during the reign of Oba Orhogbua and Oba Ado according to Bini accounts and several European historians account was his biological son

who said it is unfounded, you asking me how many soldiers died, how many children of citizens died. This is African history where they wrote nothing. It is just like you asking me how many soldiers did Oba Ozolua take to the Uromi-Uzea war? All we know is that there was a war and we read summary of what happened in the war.

It is like you asking me how many children died in the Benin Igala war? Because I can’t tell you now does that mean It did not happen. I don’t even know the name of the king that Oba Esigie fought with at the time in Igala.


It is not recorded but we have a summary of the war that it went in the Favour of the European account.

In the Bini account, Bini wanted Access over the Lagos sea and he wanted to extend his frontiers up to Dahomey. So Lagos needs to be in the pockets, that’s why it went that way.

But you guys nearly crucified the Oba of Lagos when he said he said he is a paternal descendant of the Oba of Benin. Are you saying he does not know his history? Are you Saying the several European historians who jotted this down are clowns? Are you saying the Yoruba professor of history above who jotted it down as an invasion is a clown.


It is not about whether it would hurt Benin history or not, it is about the truth.

AreaFada2:
Thanks my brother. My grouse is that we in Benin are not doing enough to bring Eastern Yoruba people of Benin descent closer.

Those over there who are aware of their Benin descent are very warm towards Edo people. In my case, my family still has houses and a street name with many relatives there. In the royal descendants' quarter no less. A bit like Ogbe in Benin. But even more specific. The family summoned immediately an oba of Owo joins the ancestors and take care of his funeral as a family affair.

But I wonder how many people today in Edo and Ondo not lucky enough to know that family connection on either side.

A time will come that if we in Benin don't reenforce the Edo connections over there, subsequent generations will take on only Oduduwa narrative to make their life easier in line with SW mainstream political position.

For example, how can a first class monarch who told me when alive that he was of Edo origin join his ancestors and Edo was not visibly represented at his obsequies? I have a copy of all letters of condolence (all were compiled) that other prominent monarchs/traditional rulers sent and none from Benin. We need to build bridges. A young energetic man called Imasuen is really trying in that regard though.

Oba of Ogba, King of Brass, Ekpeye, Yenagoa, Degema and many Ikwerre monarchs are bona fide Edo people. Even the Igede people in Benue are bona fide Edo, via Edo North.

You are correct. The monarchs and senior chiefs were planted Edo people to rule new territories. But those kings and elite could marry many wives and sire many children quickly. So over time, 30% or more of the people could easily be their descendants.

AreaFada2:
My brother, you got virtually everything right. Aside the bolded.

The palace was our father's ducal palace in Edo South. It so happened that in imperial times, post Ozolua and before 1897, a prince of Owo could present himself to Oba of Benin as a Prince of Benin. Our father did just that. He was settled at Ugbo Owo. Uniben/UBTH are located there today. He was later made Enogie of another area in Edo South. My uncle is the current duke of same place.

While Upelle people still very much admit their Benin origin (just like some other Obas in Eastern Yorubaland), Owo historians now feel that Owo monarchy is to important now in Yorubaland to be seen as son of Oba of Benin. That some Owo obas of old only claimed to be son or brother of Oba of Benin in order to bask in the glory of powerful obas of Benin and enhance their own prestige.

Surely, our father's recognition as a prince by Oba of Benin clearly nullifies the idea of some obas of Owos only basking in the glory of Oba of Benin without being blood relatives. Because by this time, Benin had started reserving ducal/enogie positions for princes of blood exclusively.

But quite interesting when you discuss with those monarchs over there. They know the history and connections better than me and you.
So I laugh when I hear people just open mouth "waa" and talk anyhow here.

But it was a pretty common thing for Benin descendant princes to return to Benin. Prince Olojo t Kosoko of Lagos did same after Oba Kosoko, his father, was deposed and exiled to Epe.

UMUAZEE:
What is Ekhue??

AreaFada2:
Ovbie Eweka n'okaro me khin. Rumwunda Ozolua n'iboromi Ero bie Ogie Ogho ne Edo n'ekue tiere Owo. Oba Esigie ero bie Ogie Ukpele, no vbe sike Owo.

Lamogun ma tue vbe owie. Ovbie Umogun. Ivbioba hia ke Egbe Eweka n'okaro gha de hia.

Ovbie Enogie Edo vbe khin. Eseserese Edo.

Eguae Enogie erha ima n'okhua ere Ina ka mien okoro Solomon Aiguobasimwin vbe ore re Edaiken. Okoro no ghi do rie Erediauwa vb'Edo.

Ologbo147:
are you a fool, I said Bini was reckoned to be 1,000,000 in 1987. And i said Ijesha was maybe about 100,000 when Yoruba was 3,000,000 hundred years ago.

Is 1987 hundred years ago? Are you daft? If you lack comprehension please stop mentioning me, stop bringing Ijesha up my face, i don’t care about Ijesha, i don’t want to care,

Binis have the largest landmass in that local government even the population obviously. At the very least,Bini hold 80% of the population of those two local governments in Ovia.

Stop pouring your frustrations on my mentions, go and sue the government for bringing the capital city to Benin city

Shift for road make i see better person chat with

Take your excessive ignorance and senility out of my mention. Please stop quoting me, can you?

Raskimonojendor:
Maybe Akoko Edo.