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flyuche:
Naijafan .I won't give you the pleasure. I will teach you guys a few things. Watch out.

stupid spammer

ps: above is a satire of apple, courtesy of the Onion Network. its not real.

Apple Introduces Revolutionary New Laptop With No Keyboard

the Macbook Wheel.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary

flyuche:
no. until apple can produce a mac i can control with my mind

its entirely possible, if only you had a mind.

blackspade:
HP is rubbish.

are you sure?

@logica

well that is absolutely true, but only for apps that do run in a sandbox model and simulate/emulate privileges using digital certificates. in Unix you know very well that almost everything requires permissions (files, directories, etc) and certain requirements/resources require much more than standard user privileges.

its not like apps run in elevated privilege mode all the time; its at the install stage where directories are created, files are modified and functions called. all these go beyond your average usermode. recall that if you're running in Terminal, changes require the chmod, chown or chgrp commands which most often requires root password if the change is systemwide or beyond the normal user layer of the app. fact is, most apps with running daemons require root!

in xcode the Perforce server root directory requires root access, (so also in LDAP which was used in global directory in some of those dreadful webapps) and then theres Process Rights Management  which is a sort of subroot (or simulated root if you will) where requirements inherit ONLY those root privileges they need and not full system access.

I'm sure you know also that OS X is a BSD system with 3 level of users: Owner, Group, and Other. each has their own read/write/execute acces to the files and directories in the system. the Owner of a file or folder is generally who created that file/folder (remember apps create files and folders). this Owner can assign access for the other 2 types of users and in Unix only root can transfer ownership and assign privileges.

now recall all those 0775 and 0755 file permissions we needed to change via SSH in those days? those permissions are automatically assigned by apps in the install stage on those directories that (1) the apps themselves created and (2) the apps need. but they can't very well do that without root access, the same USER:ROOT-PASSWORD:ALPINE credentials you supply to WinSCP, Putty or Iphone Tunnel Suite (whatever you bend to).

so in essence, as apps are installed, changes are made to directories/files with permissions, and these changes require some root power.

but here lies the rub: root access in OS X is by default disabled. what you end up with is the Admin Account which grants the powers of root with one single exception: changes to any files in the system domain is the exclusive preserve of the superuser/root. so in most cases these apps are given admin privileges to effect changes, transfer control, assign permissions and interact with the low-level kernel. at the end of runtime these admin powers are stripped from the caller.

@naijafan

I'm registered for the apple dev program and downloaded the sdk. got all the articles on the dev support page. Not working on any app right now but working with the kit is a bit like vb. Xcode is cool.

May sell the other MacBook if I can get our resident beggars off my back.

Working on a few themes on iPhone simulator.

@logica
The purpose of jailbreaking is primarily to free up userland and abstracted layers with root access. Apps do not really need it as long as they incorporate proper root certificates. Now since obviously the coders of cydia/installer apps do not have access to apples signing toolkits they created a payload in the jailbreak process that allows apps to be signed with arbitrary certs. The official sdk contains official rootcerts therefore official apps from the appstore Which fall under the category of 3rd party apps do not need jailbreaking.

In sum, jailbreaking is not just to install 3rd party apps, it's to also allow tools and code have root privileges in order to allow foreign code and mods like winterboard.

@naijafan

Glad to see you back, things were getting out of hand. Jay freeman is one cool dude.

I applied the .0.9.4 yellowsn0w update and now I have full service 3G than I ever had with that crappy Gevey sim proxy. I probably now have nairaland's first software unlocked iPhone 3G!  I'm posting this from the iPhone.

ive had this since yesterday. network comes on and off. its in version .0.4 now. still buggy. notice the No Service notification.

flyuche:
it's enough. no more insults. scientists don't talk like this. lets make this thread very informative and educating for the benefit of all nairalanders. both you guys are good(and me too ). i think you can work together. put this ego thing aside. please Ex. please Djcn.

hey, im game if he can afford not to go thermal anytime i disagree with him.

different wallpaper, tweaked dock and new icons.

@djcn

i repeat, when you said yellowsn0w was out IT WASNT OUT THEN. like i said, i was on the watchlist since 8pm on 31-12-08 uptill the moment it finally came out. if you just check the coments you'll see my whinies as user neoteny, Toxic fumes, MuscleTurd and Inferis right from 24 hours before release. i was sitting in front of my computer and refreshing every five minutes or checking in via my iphone when away from the mac. the devteam initially said the delay was for one member (premumably pitey) to wake up and fix file permission errors, and that was around 9am naijatime. they made several updates before the release finally came late afternoon.

look, i have an iphone 3G, you don't, since i have a stake in this chances are while i was intensely waiting all day for the release you were doing whatever it is you do and casually dropping in to check. i made the first post in nairaland about yellowsn0w, date of release etc and that shows you i was intently following the devteam developments. if there is anybody here in NL that followed the blog they can testify the unlock came just before my post, after your misleading one.

but if you really crave credit, then by all means have it: world, djcn was the first to post that yellowsn0w was out. . there, you happy now?

you can now be smug, and wallow in the triviality of who said what first, its afterall the pastime of lesser men.

PS: your most powerful comment was" yellowsnow will work on all jailbroken phones"?

jesus.

every nitwit worth his keyboard knows that! its always a requirement of unlocking right from the early days! you're not telling us anything new.

look, we can either be constructive in developing this thread, or bicker endlessly about very mundane and excruciatingly boring issues.

your call.

an iphone theme i just made, in both pxl and zipped formats. its called Neotenized.

naijafan:
@ex.
which kain long thing solution be that? just tell the dude to use iTunes and select his preferred application. outlook or windows contacts (if he's on vista.)

ooops! is contacts transfer two-way? ive always had my contacts in AddressBook (i use a Mac, not windows unless i really have to) and up in the cloud in Funambol and memotoo.com.

@flyuche

walmart DOES NOT sell 99 dollar iphones, it sells regular priced iphones. AT&T does sell refurbs for that amount.

and when i made that post that yellowsn0w wasnt out, it wanst out AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT because i was at the devteam blog (just check the comments or intensedebate) since baybreak uptill the very moment yellowsn0w ws published. if you check the time i made the first post to the time i announced it was out you'll see the time lapse.

and if you care to check all the comments (go back a few pages and you'll see mine) you'll find out that most peolple had similar problems that the unlock didnt work immediately; it took several reboots and removing/reinserting the SIM.

if your insect mind find that hard to believe i dare you to ask anyone you know with an iphone 3G to try yellowsn0w and tell you the result. the links are:

http://apt9.yellowsn0w.com for Cydia, and http://i.yellowsn0w.com for Installer. the link he gave was for the devteam blog and not yellowsn0w's.



@djcn

i have performed the rot47 and indeed your cypher is the simple sentences above. my bad for being lazy not to try, and yours for mashing up the codes in one ugly jumble of garbage. if you give code, give it structure not just pack everything in one tiny space. and you dont simply encode and leave in ascii, thats why most people go binary.

i do then retract my statement that the codes dont make sense.

but that doesnt absolve you of sheer ignorance in all things iphone, and lets keep it right there. you're still to prove me wrong for proving your ramblings about jailbreaking, unlocking and quickpwn as wrong.

im waiting for that.

my.funambol.com or get touchcopy

yellowsn0w now working, left my iphone idle and after 15mins i got full service. no 3g yet though.

@flyuche

kindly give an example of where and when i posted rubbish code.

and the coward flees with his tail between his legs.

@flyuche

i HAVE proven him wrong, he has proven me right, and is yet to prove me wrong. and to further prove him wrong:

what you gave:

%96 "F:4< qC@H? u@I yF>AD ~G6C %96 {2KJ s@8]
: 2> 8@:?8 E@ A@DE @? ?2:C2=2?5
␁[t 4][t 5]␁[t 4]^@ \0[t 5] ␁

is utter rubbish, not any code known to man. you want to pass it off as code but sorry its rubbish. it lacks any syntax, structure, pattern and relationship found in any software code. therefore its made up garbage, like most of your post.

my vobabulary is rich but i dont make sense? you mean[b] " sheer, unmitigated and utter assumption of contemptuousness and presumptousness, psychological miasm and myalgic encephalomyelitis(CFS) I remain arrière-pensée, . ."[/b] does?

you guys are so full of it.


meanwhile im waiting for either of you to prove me wrong. dont just give links that are old, say something that sounds remotely smart, if not factual.

and dont tell me yellowsn0w is out, ive downloaded and installed and can confirm its not working with MTN, Glo or Etisalat.

@djcn

you're still hopelessly wrong on ALL counts.


i don't know what " scooped into a labyrinth and gratuitous delibrations of your impulsiveness, precipitateness and impetuosity.   .   .  will only be a squandered, ravaged and atrophied use of my time." means, i'll assume it can't be good.

so, you say: "The Dev Team had earlier announced that anyone hoping to unlock their iPhone should NOT upgrade to the official 2.2 release. They finally succeded in jailbreaking ver 2.2 and so retract their statement. What is yor ranting and raving about."

firmware 2.2 was jailbroken almost the week of its release, which is some while ago. you're obviously confusing jailbreaking with unlocking, which are two different things though unlocking sometimes needs jailbreaking.


the reason the devteam retracted their statement was because they initially said yellowsn0w would work only on 2.1 baseband. later they updated the code to work exclusively on the 2.2 baseband; hence the retraction and binary clues.

you say: "Quickpwn was the first generation iPhone unlocking tool, Apple did plug the exploit which allowed the unlocking with a recent software update"


WRONG, OF COURSE.

if you mean quickpwn was the first iphone unlocker then you are wrong. quickpwn was never the first generation software unlocking tool; that honor belongs to iphonesimfree, which is a paid unlock. then comes devteam's AnySim. after that came ziphone which was nothing but a frontend for the iboot exploit. then came bootneuter. in fact, quickpwn just recently acquired an unlock ability via an embedded bootneuter a few weeks ago.

wrong also that Apple blocked the unlock patches; bootneuter patches on baseband are permanent until the baseband is updated; which on the iphone 1st gen Apple hasnt done since 2.0.

quickpwn is not related to yellowsn0w; quickpwn is a generally pwning tool for iphone 1st gen, iphone 3g and ipod touch. it unlocks ONLY iphone 1st gen. yellowsn0w on the other hand unlocks ONLY iphone 3G on 02.28.00 firmware for now.

therefore yellowsn0w is the first 3G software unlock, and has nothing to do with Apple fixing any exploit since there never was an exploit to begin with until now.

you say: " You fail to explain why we should use ROT 13 in the decryption process because ROT 13 is not the only cipher out there."

I'm not taking credit for what i didnt do. the original code was in ROT13 so don't blame me for that.

@texazzpete

aha! no wonder if i try to type "Flyuche" it sometimes appear as "blockhead".

EDIT:

darn! I'm BLOWN AWAY BY THAT VIDEO!!! see physics!

just downloaded it!

UPDATE: Yellosn0w is out. seems a few people are having problems with it, and im just updating my phone. cant go back now.

@Texazz

Flyuche has a partner in utter cluelessness: Djcn. see his silly posts above when he was waxing lyrical about PH boys unlocking 3G, some fictitious group called Naughty Boys who he credits as the first to jailbreak/unlock the iphone and write apps for it. then he tops it up by completely mucking up the binary clues logica gave above without even knowing what it all meant.

clearly, these *blank* guys dont know diddly about the iphone, OS X, or Mac but prefer to argue with those who do. im tempted to say i dont think either of them has ever seen an iphone talk more of actually holding one.

sh1t, they *blank* *blank* better get real or shut the *blank* up!

maybe we ought to really get Flyuche an iphone, even a "hamburger refurb". that'll keep in sync with his social standing.

cabali:
U know u can only do so much to educ8 a dunce.

so true, so true. evolution left some cavemen behind but in the true spirit of humanity i think it behooves us to integrate fellow homo sapiens, insufferable as they are. i do not derive any pleasure from this but i'll do my part in bringing Fred Flintstone up there into the light, even if he's kicking and screaming. for someone who chases and clubs his dinner, its not easy but its for his own good.

even the unwashed heathen deserve a chance at civilization too, don't you think?

may this here new year be a happy one.

my resolution is 1980x1200

how can you say Happy New year before the year even starts? Shoulnt we wait until December to judge if the year was happy or not? Someone said happy new year to me at the dawn of 2008 and it turned out my lousiest year on record.

Hey bartender, refill please -Hic-

watching Fringe.

d0uch3bag

Djcn:
Apple is known for keeping its under their clutches.
Well, thanks to a set of guys who like me loves freedom. All they do is to make sure everyone is free. They first jailbroke the phone and now unlocked for your use.

Jailbreaking is the term used when you take the iPod Touch (or iPhone), which is normally locked down tight to prevent any third party applications from being installed on it and you break into it and modify it to allow third party applications. In a sense you break it out of being locked up 'in jail' (hence the name).

Jailbreaking is certainly not authorized by Apple. In fact, they've put a lot of effort into stopping people from doing this. They have locked down the OS on these devices very tightly, and provided no documentation on how to access the OS or write applications for it. However, despite this, Naughty Boys have been able to not only break into the OS, but to figure out how to write applications for it. I am truly impressed by what they have been able to accomplish.

Jail breaking tools.
http://www.iphone-hacks.com/downloads/category/19

And now with the just release “yellowsn0w Cydia package “, the long awaited software to unlock the iphone 3g. It becomes easier unlocking ur iphone. That means you can use your iphone with any carrier.

01110110 01110100 01100001 01100010 01100101 01110010 00100000 00110110
00110001 00110000 00110110 00110000 00110001 00110111 00110100 00100000

The binary trash posted above "simply" means the software can work with already jailbroken phones.

unlocking tools.
http://www.iphone-hacks.com/downloads/category/17

Well, just like some of the guys who did all of these tweaks, i don't own an iphone. while one of them prefers the Android stuff, One says he die with the symbian line of products.

Please note that the installations of these softwares is at your own risk.
True Apple Lovers should respect Apple and it's policies

this is absolutely, horrendously, unforgivably WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!


jailkbreaking opens the entire filesystem WITH ROOT PRIVILEGES ONLY! jailbreaking IS NOT A PREREQUISITE FOR INSTALLING OFFICIAL APPS!

jailbreaking ALLOWS modifications to the filesystem by giving root privileges. these modifications ALLOW unlocking and installation of custom packages.

official APPS from the appstore and Ajax webapps DO NOT NEED JAILBREAKING!!


Jailbreaking is not authorized by Apple, but Apple is not doing much to prevent jailbreaking otherwise they'd change the root password from ALPINE to something else. in fact, jailbreaking benefits them as it allows the appeal of the iphone to last longer.

best jailbreaking tool is Quickpwn.

and Yellowsn0w IS NOT RELEASED YET!!!

Djcn:
01110110 01110100 01100001 01100010 01100101 01110010 00100000 00110110
00110001 00110000 00110110 00110000 00110001 00110111 00110100 00100000

The binary trash posted above "simply" means the software can work with already jailbroken phones.

WRONG AGAIN!!!


the binary above means "vtaber 61060174". vtaber is ROT13 cypher for the word "ignore". ROT13 means "rotate by 13 places", which is a substitution cypher. for example in ROT13 your name Djcn is qwpa, in binary that is 01110001 01110111 01110000 01100001

therefore the binary logica gave above means "ignore 61060174".

61060174 is a blog post on the devteams's blog titled "the man ffrom delmonte-he say YES!. that post warned 3G iphone users NOT to upgrade to the 2.2 firmware because the 02.28.00 baseband was then NOT software unlockable by yellowsn0w.

now theres a yellow sn0w update that does unlock 2.2/02-28-00, therefore "ignore 61060174" means "ignore that post, go ahead and update your iphone 3G to 2.2".

please get your facts straight.

@logica

I did try ROT-13 on vtaber and the returned cypher was indeed "ignore". That blog post number is "the man from delmonte -he say yes!". Like those dudes found out, baseband 02.28.00 is unlocked. Update on the blog.

By the way I'm Toxic Fumes on the comments.

@tboss

Call me what you will, substance runs deeper than a net handle. Afterall what's in a name?

Meanwhile for those iPhone 3g owners with the 2.2 software don't fret; the baseband has been unlocked. Yellowsnow goes live in a few hours.

flyuche:
@Djcn. don't mind them. because them manage buy refurb iphone person no go hear word. meanwhile na only game them de use the thing play.
apple fan my ass. tomata fan nko? abi na apple airconditioner them be sef

Every forum has a resident pr1ck. In light of the above we can safely point out nairaland's.

@djcn

So because your cousins come from Cupertino I'm  like expected to say "ah, their opinion matters", right? Look, obviously you and flyuche share an inexplicable hatred for apple and while I consistently state the reasons for my choice you on the other hand love to jabber inanely and paste the opinions of blogs and pass them off as your own. Apparently I can't convince you and neither can you I, so let's just end this here and now because it's becoming boring.

I shall stick to my apples, you muggles and mudbloods stick to whatever bakes your bread.

Note: once upon a time naijafan, who I consider one of the greatest brains on nairsland, walked in essentially the same shoes (albeit with more finesse than you) as you and your sidekick are now treading in, and ever since he got an iPhone he has seen the light.

Cheers and so on.

unlock coming out just before NYE PST.


Texazz, grabbing a 3G? and sorry for the frostbite; london is rubbish.

meanwhle:

just installed Silent Hill, downloading Fast and the Furious right now.