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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:58am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:
No, Vieira had Petit or Gilberto Silva behind him, same way Scholes had Keane or Butt behind him. They play the exact same position and nobody mentioned Vieira vs Scholes, na only Keane them mention.

Scholes also played behind the striker in his early days and at the top of a 3 man midfield with Veron and Keane behind.
How many appearance for Silva @ Arsenal??

Scholes started as an attacker, was converted to a midfielder
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:55am On Apr 11, 2020
Godx:
How did Vieira play deeper?
Who were the midfielders starting at arsenal, alongside Viera??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:48am On Apr 11, 2020
thorrvik55:
Lemme help u out..

Paul Scholes -> 55 Premier League assists after 19 years of PL footie at a top club

Ur welcome
OR

Arsenal 0 UCL

Scholes 2 UCL

you'r welcome cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:46am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:
Vieira was central midfielder oga.

Scholes was attacking midfielder for half his career
Maybe you will understand now,.... he played deeper than the other midfielders in Arsenal midfield.

And Scholes is a central midfielder
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:37am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:
What I know is that in Scholes prime, we only talk of Keane vs Vieira.

And after they left, we only talked of Lampard vs Gerrard

Scholes has always been a 3rd wheel in midfield and a 5th or 6th wheel in any Manure team in any era

He is deserving of a place on the bench. Top player, but he has neither the statistical records, nor status in his own team to help his argument.
To make it easy for you

Keane and Viera are defensive midfielders.

Lampard attacking midfielder

Scholes Central midfielder...... ( @45 years old, he will start at Chelsea right now) cheesy cheesy and please dnt make me pull out Scholes statistics and trophies

so no need to compare them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:27am On Apr 11, 2020
thorrvik55:
Respeck... cool

Some other scummies would attribute it to the Chelsea defence then and Mourinho's defensive taktiks.
It also played a major role ............ remember wat happened at Arsenal cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:26am On Apr 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:
I Dan know this scholes dragging will end in tears, see as ibime embarrassed your legend.
Give a break you can't put scholes in best EPL 11 unless you want to remove Keane for him no problem.
Scholes should be in bench with Steven g grin
Go and remove scholes from EPL official team of the decade(1992-2003) and EPL all time best 11 ( 1992-2013)..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:59am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:
Lampard, Keane, Vieira and Gerrard are central midfielders and have always been top 3 players in their team, if not the top player for many seasons.

There is no way you sneak a Scholes who has never been a top 3 or top 5 player in his own team into an EPL 11. It is only longevity that is counting for him cos there is an element of carry-along in his career if he was never one of the top go-to guys in his own team in 20 years of playing football.
What i know is that...............no EPL best 11 without Paul Scholes
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:50am On Apr 11, 2020
Unlimited22:
Lol. Manchester United fans will pick Schmeichel and Evra, and Chelsea fans will pick Cech and Cole.
Evra and Cole are debatable, very debatable, but here's why I think Cech just edges it.

I saw a post recently saying he faced 1250 shots or so, and conceded around 250 goals. Including his twilight years at Arsenal.
Holds the clean sheet record in the epl Era, both all time and in a season.

Conceded 15 Abi 19 goals in the entirety of one season in 2004/05.

Schmeichel is a beast, but based on these, Cech just edges it for me.
Cech over Schmeicel cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:48am On Apr 11, 2020
Ibime:
Scholes has never been a top 3 or sometimes top 5 player in his own team.

In mid 90s, Cantona, Giggs, Keane, Schmeichel were above him.

In late 90s, Keane, Beckham, Giggs, Yorke, Schmeichel were above him

In early 2000s, RVN, Giggs, Keane, Beckham were above him

Mid-late 2000s, Ronaldo, Giggs, Rooney, Vidic were above him.

You can't join EPL all-time 11, having not been the top 3 player for your team in any era.
All those players are not CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS...........that is what you face, if you play among stars

But he was among the 10 nominated for EPL player of the decade..........from 1992-2003.........

Also nominated among the 10 for EPL player best player from 1992-2013 (20 years anniversary)....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:43am On Apr 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:
I just they look your people, expert put man United players for midfield scholars is good but I don't understand the obsession on a player that go about collecting yellows and suspension.
He removed lampard too just to accommodate scummies players because they are the only one in England.
Everyone will be biased with their best 11, I don't even expect to see Gary at RB I will replace him with his brother instead or ivanovic.
So i should put Arsene Wenger's engine room (Viera) ahead of Fergie's engine room (Roy keane) ??

For now G.Neville is the no 1 at RB,....... ahead of Lee dixon then ivanovic.

No EPL best 11 without Paul scholes
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:30am On Apr 11, 2020
PAUL SCHOLES speaking yesterday

I do regret leaving England so soon': Paul Scholes says he retired too early from the national side before excelling in deeper role for Manchester United... as he also reveals regret over turning down place at 2010 World Cup.

But Scholes he felt regret when he looked back on his time with England, noting that he soon changed his play style at United to more of a deep-lying playmaker - a role that he never got to play for the national side.


Deeper role for Manchester united.

Cc Afrodoc2, Hensben, Airmack, Leyqute
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:23am On Apr 11, 2020
odizeey:
Where scholes? grin
No EPL best 11 without Scholes....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:20am On Apr 11, 2020
afrodoc2:
He is definitely a contender. Would be difficult to take him off.
If some people are mentioning Sagna cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

..CR7 shud be the team Template
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:14am On Apr 11, 2020
odizeey:
In my opinion, Ronaldo has to be included. Not only did he win the world best, he also won the premier league best twice. How many did his contenders win?
EPL title 3 times straight 2007, 2008 & 2009.

Only player in EPL to win World best... I dnt even know who want to bench him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 8:21am On Apr 11, 2020
hardeycute:
You mentioned it yourself, Arsenal's Sagna and Arnold will be among the conversation in few years if he can maintain the consistency.
Sagna cant make arsenal EPL best 11........... you hvnt heard of Lee Dixon.

Arnold kor schwarzenegger ni
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 8:09am On Apr 11, 2020
hardeycute:
Ronaldo played as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation, how is that different from playing as a midfielder? I'm sure he had nothing to do with Man united winning UCL? For someone that came close to winning WPOTY in 2007 and with at least 4 years of consistency. The Gary Neville that is on the list, how many good years did he had?
Mention a Right back that had better years in that positionhuh

Please dnt mention Ivanovic grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 8:07am On Apr 11, 2020
This was the team officially selected as the BEST 11 in EPL during the 20th anniversary 1992-2013.............

Schmeichel

Neville. Adams. Ferdinard Cole


C.Ronaldo R.Keane P.Scholes R.Giggs


T.Henry A. Shearer
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:36pm On Apr 10, 2020
Ibime:
You can't not have Keane there.

If you're talking Premier League, the first 3 names on the list are Shearer, Henry, then Keane
Shearer is there only because of his record goals....

Giggs should be there because of his record assists, appearance, title, scoring in 20 straight season, expliot on the wing....

As for Roy keane....maybe you want me to move lampard....because i can't bench Scholes for anybody.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:13pm On Apr 10, 2020
Ibime:
Giggs or Ronaldo, choose one.

Giggs can't shake out Henry on the other wing.
Schmeichel

G.neville. Terry. Ferdinard. A.cole

Ronaldo. Scholes. Lampard. Giggs

Shearer. Henry.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 9:32pm On Apr 10, 2020
PDPGuy:
What is your all-time premier league 11?
Any EPL all time 11, without Ryan Giggs is a joke....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 6:34pm On Apr 10, 2020
raumdeuter:
No Vidic, No Henry? He is on drugs. How can you have a PL all time and not have Henry or Vidic? Henry should even be the captain sef. I can yab Henry but I wont deny that he is king in the EPL Ronaldo best years were not in EPL. Neville no sabi play anything na just attache him be, His football was as wack as his analysis

----------Schmeichel
-Ivanovic-- Vidic--Carvalho--Cashley
-------Scholes ---Keane
-----------Lampard
--Ronaldo---Shearer---Henry

Carvalho for Tony Adams can be considered
Airmack hope you can see Scholes cheesy
RomanceRe: I Lost my job, my girlfriend dumped me and nairalanders saved me from suicide by Expert17: 4:12pm On Apr 10, 2020
openmine:
Oga wetin you dey do here? grin grin
Shey u don leave manutd matter come enter romance section? grin
U are doing well grin
grin grin...... Na Corona cause am
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:46pm On Apr 10, 2020
Godx:
England has actuy witnessed some ridiculous strikers. Rank the following
I remember Henry & Van nistelrooy rivalry ( in terms of goal scoring)

EPL

Henry top scorer 2001/2002, 2003/2004, 2004/2005 & 2005/2006
Nistelrooy top scorer 2002/2003

UCL

Henry top scorer - none
Nisteelrooy 2001/2002, 2002/2003 & 2004/2005


La liga

Henry top scorer - none
Nistelrooy top scorer- 2006/2007
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17:
afrodoc2:
It is a league record. Use their league statistics. How would Ruud have scored more than 260 goals in the EPL when he didn't score up to that when you add his goals from the weaker Dutch top league and the useless Dutch 2nd division? Not logical.
If Rooney can score 200+ league goals in EPL, Van nistelrooy wud score more than 260 goals..........

Van nistelrooy scoring doesnt depend on the League(weak or strong), it depends on the caliber of players in the team to supply him.....he got 56 goals in 73 appearance in UCL to prove this (6th on all time UCL highest goal scorer)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:24pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:
If you add all the league goals Ruud scored in his life including Dutch 1st and 2nd division he scored 249 goals but if he had played only in the English Top Division he would have scored more than 260? Not Logical

If you add all Cantona's league goals in his life including French 1st and 2nd division he scored 131 goals but somehow he would have magically scored 260 goals if he played only in the English top division? Not logical.

Ronaldo. Definitely. He became a goal machine of unreal proportions. Football god.

Aguero. Likely. He has been prolific practically all through his career, right from teenage years. Presently has 254 goals in European League football, and not done yet.
CLUB statistics
Ruud Van Nistelroooy scored 349 goals in 592 appearance in all competitions .......Alan shearer scored 379 goals in 734 appearances in all competitions

Country statistics
Van nistelrooy scored 35 goals in 70 appearance..............Shearer scored 30 goals in 63 appearance.

I strongly believe Van nistelrooy would hv broken the record.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:54pm On Apr 09, 2020
If these strikers played all their career in England, Shearer's 260 goals record wud hv bn broken by now

- Thiery Henry
-Sergio Aguero
-Ruud Van Nistelrooy
- Cantona
-Ronaldo


---Rooney was unlucky, he was played out of position, so many times.
---I see Harry Kane breaking it......( so far he can overcome constant injury and also stay in EPL)
RomanceRe: I Lost my job, my girlfriend dumped me and nairalanders saved me from suicide by Expert17: 1:40pm On Apr 09, 2020
skj1377:
The probability that a footballer who did not further his education after secondary school can narrate such a compelling story is 0. This can't be your story if it is true probably your friend or someone told you the story. That's my take
Mr man,

Keep quiet, spitting out rubbish since
RomanceRe: Get In Guys: After Collecting Her Number, What Made You Not To Call Her? by Expert17: 1:31pm On Apr 09, 2020
because Prevention is better than Cure.... grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:28pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
local champion cheesy
grin grin

Man utd and Man city will give him anything he can dream of.....
No need to disrupt your family, by going to Spain and joining a political club like Real Madrid.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:16pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
[s]Henry also played out of position tongue he was a winger[/s]
I doubt that, no eriksen to help and he's voicing out about exit.
Levy na motherfvcker that can sell his mother for the right price Madrid are knocking, scummies can drop maga money cheesy
England players are always scared of playing abroad.....he might prefer replacing Aguero @ Man city or Spear-heading Man utd attack
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:01pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
You know anyone can break record, it's not a big deal.
Moreover Henry would have broken Shearer's record if he was at arsenal from the beginning of his career at arsenalwink
Kane should concentrate in breaking Jimmy greaves's record
Rooney was close with 208 goals, despite playing out of position for so many years........

Kane will outscore Jimmy Greave 220 spurs goals and 44 England goals

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