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Arsenal Legend: Thiery Henry


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pamcode:
I hope you know Scholes played as a supporting striker at the beginning of his professional career?

How many games..........

On paper, Lampard is a midfielder, when game starts, he is in the 18 yard box dragging with Drogba

Swissh:
Focus on your defending your Albino fraud
than asking me anyhow questions.

Where is Jack Wilshere

eph12:
You haven't learned that you can't bring logic or facts to some arguments on these streets. Ignore their point and emphasize your own point. Simple

True

Swissh:
Arsenal is the club in the England that actually owns most of the best players to ever step foot in England followed by Liverpool. The rest clubs have mostly overrated and overhyped dunce.

Your WEED is so strong bro



Mention your academy products

hensben:
[b]That is because he was a CM while Lampard was AMF with different tactics, [/b]different playing pattern. So as a CM, scholes primary role was to dictate the play, did he make fifa 11 at any point in his career in his primary role? It’s not by how far but how well. 19 years in one club yet his individual award is like that of morosso budget.

@bolded is correct.... So you shouldn't expect Scholes to Assists or Score like Lampard.....

Please list Gerrard's individual award

Scholes trophies should be almost same with chelsea's trophies....

You should know by now, Paul scholes doesnt play for all that personal glory, .... Team glory is his priority....

That is why he doesn't fight Rooney for Penalty like Lampard

hensben:
How will you know when SAF tactics was working, cr7 and others were there and also with the help of FA. Are you aware SAF won Epl with cleverly starting, Will you now say cleverly was better than fletcher.

So you haven'tt heard about Coach effect/impact on players......

Fergie can win the league once the Spinal cord of the team is good to go....

From 2007- 2009 Spinal cord. Vanderser- Vidic- Scholes-Ronaldo-Rooney

hensben:
If Lampard was always thinking about PK how did he get more assist than scholes who was always thinking about spreading passes. Roy keane and Viera were stubborn and not reckless. They were CDM so making tackles was their primary duty. Scholes was reckless as a CM, his defensive frailties was always showing so playing him behind Gerrard and Lampard would’ve been more suicidal. Owen H would’ve be the right player behind those two, not scholes.

The same Paul Scholes was in Man utd first team for 19 seasons, ... Playing with more than 20 midfielders, ....still remained in the 1st eleven......
Won 11 out of 19 EPL, ....more than Gerrard and Lampard combined....

4-4-2 under Fergie- the two man midfield, Paul scholes and a DM, job is to stop the opposition from playing, dictate the tempo, open up defence with long pass, frustrate the opponent tactics, ....

Most football stars, rate him higher than Gerrard and Lampard in terms of ball playing and midfield control.......

hensben:
Scholes can’t defend, instead he tackle recklessly, those two were superior than him going forward. The coach was anticipating Owen H to play CDM but he was always injured. Carrick was on Erick Dier’s level in terms of talent. Your strong point under SAF was not midfield but attack, cross and nod tactics, playing from flank kinda football.

Imagine, ... Michael Carrick on Eric dier level.....

hensben:
Scholes can’t defend, instead he tackle recklessly, those two were superior than him going forward. The coach was anticipating Owen H to play CDM but he was always injured. Carrick was on Erick Dier’s level in terms of talent. Your strong point under SAF was not midfield but attack, cross and nod tactics, playing from flank kinda football.

So Lampard and Gerrard can defend better

Can they even pass the ball like Scholes

Or control the tempo of games??

nihilistjnr:
Lampard and Gerrard would have benched Scholes if they came to United

Ferguson that was offering Gerrard 7 years and 1 round with Scholes girlfriend, for him to come and bench the Albino

Just Like the way Lampard benched Yaya toure at Man city?


If Paul Scholes, return to football today, he will bench all those your midfielders at Chelsea

hensben:
So before Lampard and Gerrard he was still been used out of position. What does that tell you about scholes. Are you aware scholes was a reckless player and every coach demand discipline mostly from their midfielders.

Reckless, ... I agree.....go and compare Gerrard and Scholes Red cards in EPL.....

Roy keane, Patrick Veira, are reckless also....

Lampard always think abt PK, so he can't be reckless

nihilistjnr:
I'm sure I've done a hatchet job on the Apollo eyed mofo before

I need to consult my archives.

Scholes is a fraud. When Lampard and Gerrard started with him, he was bundled to play as a left winger for England.

Obvious he was the most prominent English midfielder from the biggest English club at the time, so Eriksson had to find a place for him - That's how a slow right-legged central midfielder with eye problems ended up playing on left wing.

They didn't even say Baba oya take right wing as a righty.

That's how he was forced to retire in shame and disgrace - He was still in his twenties when he quit England NT.

I can't blame him, one day they might have collect jersey from David James and given him to wear just to accommodate the slow coach.

Can't tackle, can't run, can see - That's probably why the man beefs Pogba so much

So what was Gerrard and Lampard achievements for England

Paul scholes still scored 17 goals from wing.............. Capello begged him to return to England team, he didnt

He quit england in his Twenties, but he was bossing midfields in epl till 38/39..........

Lampard was warming bench at Man city before that age.............Aguero collected the PK

nihilistjnr:
There's no way these two would ever say such a thing about Scholes with a straight face.

Especially considering how they took the time to comprehensively destroy United home and away when they met in UCL.

Ronaldo went to score a spectacular hattrick in theatre of dreams - he's the real Phenomenon.

Well, It was from them, .... Beating Man utd doesn't change the fact Paul schooles is Phenomenon........

Barcelona as a club, ... Teach their Midfielders to play like Paul scholes....

obainojazz:
But you want him to be posting an AM Abi supporting striker and taker of penalties numbers

Apart from scoring penalties............Lampard cant do anytin as good as Scholes

Denis Bergkamp: “He’s the master.”

Emmanuel Petit: “At Arsenal me and Patrick (Vieira) didn’t want to face Scholes. We would avoid him.”

Edgar Davids: “”Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes.”

Edgar Davids: “I’m not the best, Paul Scholes is.”

Tony Adams: “I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn’t got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn’t get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year.”

Cesc Fabregas: “He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.”

Patrick Vieira: “The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy – Scholes.”

Thierry Henry: “I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t seek the limelight like some of the other ‘stars’.”

Zinedine Zidane: “My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder.”

Zinedine Zidane : “Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation.”

Sam Allardyce : “There is not a better midfield player in the world.”

Samir Nasri: “Sad to hear Paul Scholes is retiring great player world class player the English Zizou.”
Kevin Keegan: “What United have got that Chelsea haven’t is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football.”

Marcello Lippi: “Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he’s been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex.”

Fabio Capello: “It’s a shame he’s not available to play for England. If he was, he’d be the first name in my squad.”

Ray Wilkins: “I’m saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right throughout Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer.”

Gordon Strachan: “Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You’d probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb.”

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who’s the best english player : “Paul Scholes.”

Peter Schmeichel: “People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn’t notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen.”

Laurent Blanc: “Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength… all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent: “He’s always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me ‘what’s he like’? They respect him as a footballer and see him as the ultimate.”

Glenn Hoddle: “There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world.”

Terry Venables: “He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player.”

Alan Shearer: “If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.”

Eidur Gudjohnsen: “I’m more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week…Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I’ve ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him.”

Micah Richards: “He’s always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder – when he’s fit, he’s the best. Some go missing but he’s in the right place at the right time. He’s my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it’s a goal, isn’t it?”

Ronaldo (Brazilian): “He’s the phenomenon.”


Swissh hope you saw Fabregas comment

eph12:
Is it only penalty? They had to be playing from the sides because he wanted to be in the 18. Why do you think England was flopping? It was because of Lampard of course

If they pair Lampard with a good defensive midfielder, he would have produce his masterclass, but no,..using Gerrard


They will make same mistake with Wan bissaka and Arnold.....

I expect them to use AWB in the 3 man defence......and Arnold in RWB..........

eph12:
Drogba had to learn gidigbo to stay relevant. Let's not talk about all the other strikers Lampard killed their careers

Lampard will fight for Penalty from


Crespo
Anelka
Torres
Sturridge
Shevchenko
Eto

Nawa ooo

hensben:
What did scholes win for England before Lampard?

He was played out of position, still scored 17 goals in 66 appearance,.

But this same Scholes got more trophies than Gerrard and Lampard combined

eph12:
Lampard was shocked that a team can play without a midfielder playing 1000 shots per minute. Even the penalty that was his expertise according to airmark, they denied him. Very tough

If Gerrard and Lampard played with Van nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Cantona, Cole, Yorke, etc they will not score upto 100 goals in EPL............Because no PK and Free kick for them................

He played with just Rooney in England national team, he couldnt score more than 29 goals in 100+ appearance,.. plus the freekicks and pk

hensben:
Trophy is a team effort. Can you show us his individual honors vs Lampard or Gerrard.

Mention Gerrard individual honors please??

Dnt tell me 2nd world best ooo

eph12:
No penalty for Lampard to score? Poor Lampard. All those useless 1000 shots per minute nko? E no work?

Lampard is just abt goals nothing more.....

He went to Mancity coudnt start.....

Meanwhile Scholes was still controlling EPL games at the age of 38/39,.... Winning EPL trophy

hensben:
Imagine that guy saying Lampard just run and run so how did he now get those assist while Scholes that can spray passes like corona virus got 55 assist in 19 seasons.

27 trophies in 19 seasons.

Swissh:
You are never saying anything tangible. What have you written now.

Don't worry.

It's Man utd and Chelsea fans gist.....

Arsenal fans can't understand

Swissh:
All these are Shalayes. Scholes was the definition of bad for England. He was useless even before Gerrard and lampard became mainstay for England and shamelessly retired in 2004. Ferdinand and Terry only started 15games together for England and they never shipped in goals anyhow. They conceded only 2goals through out the 2006 world cup. You don't ever know what you are talking about. Typical Scummy .

Through out the world cup, ...as if they played, all the way to the final.......

He was useless with 17 goals in 66 games playing from the wing without PK....

Lampard was useful with 29 goals in 100+ games from his position....scoring penalties....

Gerrard was useful with 21 goals in 100+ games from his position......scoring penalties

King of Scummies

Before you graduate as a Midfielder @ barca academy, you have to learn to play the Scholes way........

His video clips are shown to the upcoming midfielders every time, to understand the midfield game.....

Confirmed by Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquet, Fabregas, Thiago, Guadiola etc

timay:
I'm telling you. benching natural Defensive midfielders like Carrick and scholes that can control a game for pk merchants that mostly only knows how to shoot and play pks and can't control a midfield from deep lying positions.

Carrick and Scholes were dominating EPL teams and making UCL finals 3 times out of 4...... But england prefer to use traditional Gerrard and Lampard that can't win low ranked countries

Swissh:
Where is Sanchez

Enjoying his 400k a week

Van persie enjoying his EPL trophy

timay:
The thing is England FA never got it right in terms of recruiting the right coaches for the team during that golden era of players they had. They were consistently recruiting idiots that lacked ideas as the national team coaches. Gerrard and lampards penalty padded goal scoring stats in their clubs didn't help those coaches either. They were so fixated on having those two play together , forgetting that they are like for like sub for eachother, thereby the experiment was failing consistently. It was the same problem they had playing Terry and Ferdinand together in defence, when they are both the same styled players thereby shipping in goals anyhow.

Gerrard and Lampard are just a better version of Ross Barkely . they only know how to run and run with the ball in midfield and with little ingenuity. when everywhere is blocked, they can't improvise, they will just result in wayward shooting evrytime. that is why those two usually record a very high number of shots per game.

Nice one....

Lampard that will just be looking for opportunity to run forward and score

Scholes dictate the tempo of games, ....spraying long and short passes.... Opening defence with thru pass.....also skilful.

Gerrard and Lampard as a midfield duo, is rubbish...

Swissh:
Yes Scholes the England failure

That's why they want him to come out of retirement

Swissh:
Typical Scummy who doesn't know anything . Who is United and what have they produced.

We don't have to produce...... We just buy your best players Van persie and Sanchez

Swissh:
Expert17 another one of your scummy who doesn't know anything. Your Albino started as a supporting striker before pushed further and further into midfield for being useless.

If Scholes decide to join Arsenal today, ..... He will bench all those flops in your midfield