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Carfax Doesn't Tell All.








Just because your used car comes with a Carfax report doesn't mean you're getting the entire history of what's happened to the vehicle.


If the police officer didn't file an accident report, it won't be reflected in the Carfax, nor will it show up if a filed report isn't computerized, which many smaller police departments still suffer from.

What's more, there are numerous accidents that are never reported by the owner, so just because you don't see an accident on your Carfax report doesn't mean it hasn't been in a wreck.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates about 10 million or more crashes go unreported each year.

Used Car Sales Dominate the Auto Market.


The used car market is about three times bigger than the new car market.

This essentially equates to three out of four cars purchased in the U.S.

Industry experts believe one of every 25 air bags that have been deployed have not been properly replaced.

Drone Footage Reveals Staggering Amount of Flooded Cars Destroyed by Hurricane Harvey, Texas, United States, 2017.


HurricaneIrma and Harvey damaged almost a Million cars in the US, 2017.



This scene at Texas World Speedway is eerily similar, with all manner of cars parked together in neat rows as far as the eye can see to dry up.


The cars will wait here until they're processed by insurance companies, reclaimed by dealers, or scrapped outright.

About half the cars that are flood damaged end up back on the road.

As far as Hurricane Katrina is concerned, estimates are that over 200,000 vehicles were dried out and resold.


And even if a vehicle doesn't look bad, what you can't see can hurt.

"The problem with flood-damaged cars is that they're rotting from the inside out," Gamache said.

It's also a potentially big safety issue.


"Air bags that have been submerged do not function properly," Gamache noted.


"They either don't deploy or could deploy at speed."



Larry Gamache, director of communications.

In most cases drivers are expected to put between 10,000 and 15,000 miles on a vehicle in a given year.


A car that is 10 years old should have roughly 100,000 to 150,000 miles or moreon it.


Buyers can check brakes and tires on vehicles with less than 20,000 miles on them.


Excessive wear should be a sign that perhaps the odometer is incorrect.

The average vehicle will likely have three owners in its lifetime.






Most used cars change hands more than once during their lifespan.

In very rare cases does a vehicle go from cradle to grave with one owner.


Even high mileage vehicles (over 100K miles) get sent to auction and sell in large quantities for those who are looking for a great deal or for resellers looking to increase the margin.

Most used vehicles go through three or more owners, and if you're lucky you get maintenance records to go along with it, but don't expect it since most owners don't keep meticulous records of their car's maintenance and repairs.












https://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/11/used-car-facts/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C8620947179
https://m.web2carz.com/article/article.php?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C5760183067
Lalasticlala, Mynd44

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dejavubobo1:
How do I get the VIN & how do I run it

Check page 2 of this thread, you will see possible places to the VIN on a car.

Running it, i dont have idea.

Contact computerglobal/ipfreely

1miccza:
*doffs my hat * Explorers baba there's always a gem in every thread that you create...

Thanks bro

chukel:
lol. Explorer u don get new job o. Look. For computerglobal

Lol.....i don enter am 2day.

chukel:
pls let's not exaggerate these things. Whites buy these cars in their numbers, fix them up and sell at dealerships. They use these cars there a lot. In fact they drive up the prices at auction as a result of their interests and having excess cash cos they don't get to ship and pay custom duty. The campaign is full disclosure.

But there will be history if you're buying such cars from white like you said.

Look at first post, Honda 2014, is that exaggeration?

Emmyk:
@ highlighted, this is the whole point of this thread, which sadly, quite a lot of people missed and some going on and about how Nigerians can't afford clean titles if imported. How does not being able to afford clean titles relate to not being transparent

Thank you bros, that's the purpose of the thread.

Ive been called different names, some even said we're trying to stop importation of salvage vehicles.

How many civil servants can afford clean 2010 camry?

Na to buy salvage now, fix am.

But some of these dealers import over salvage cars and tag them accident free.

KIDfurniture:
All these cars re timed bombs - waiting to go off any moment - when it happens they blame our roads oh - I will never buy from anybody I will rather order myself and fix myself - we re evil and wicked in Nigeria - all we see is fine body but engines are damaged - I pray my next car would be brand new

Imagine bro, selling to people irreparable tagged cars with all airbags deployed.

Mclovin4:
Truth is we underate our auto industry, those guys can fix up any crap anyone bring into this country.. the only problem is our dealers,just say the truth and move on..if anyone wants to buy, He/she will buy regardless

Exactly bros, if clean title cars are too expensive, then go for crash cars.

The reason we buy tokunbo cars is simply because brand new cars are too expensive.

If you bring in a crashed car and you worked on the body, sprayed it, replaced parts like the bumpers, lamps, fenders, doors, windshield and like that.

You can't tag it accident free, buyers should know and if they don't buy others will buy.

toro92:
is it true VIN are manipulated sometimes?

Gat to know about it on this thread, ask cosplay or ipfreely/computerglobal

chronique:
I just want to lend my voice to this. We've had this discussion in the past and it's good we address it again. I'm going to speak solely from my personal point of view.

When I got into car business, I was initially into strictly clean title cars. Unfortunately, the prices were usually on the high side and I know the no of times I was called a thief on nl here cos of the huge difference in prices. As much as I tried to make a lot of people understand, it fell on deaf ears. Most of those cars stayed on ground for a long while before being sold,and some were sold at below landing cost. Most of my partners got discouraged and refused to ship in vehicles anymore. One thing I can say from experience here,is that the percentage of people who are ready to, and can afford clean title cars on this site,are not even up to 4% of the numerous potential clients we have here.

Most potential buyers always look for cars at ridiculous prices. You see people whose budget can only afford a car of 1.5m,coming to price a car of 3m. As much as 90% of the cars that are shipped in,are bought on auction and on auction, prices are not fixed. The era where dealers were making huge profits on cars,has gone. There are too many cars on in Lagos now and to the best of my knowledge, most dealers I know, sell to break even. If you find that some cars are quite expensive, it could be that the landing cost,are quite high.
I know that there are dealers who import terribly accidented vehicles and I've had cause to quarrel with some of them.
Sometimes, I also post cars with salvage history and that's cos I have a lot of friends and dealers who push their cars to me,to help them sell. I do not have issues providing vin on request. But let us be clear on something. The fact that a car has a mild damage and is classified as salvage, doesn't make it automatically cheap at the auction. At the end of the day,we're not perfect in business but can only strive to attain it.

Sir, i appreciate your comment, so reasonable.

Am not a car dealer, but i know clean title cars are expensive.

Some clean title 2010 camry on carsforsale.com can go as high as $7,000 - $10,000(that's almost 2.5m - 3m in naira without shipping and clearing), by the time you take it to your stand, you've spent almost 4m naira on just one car without adding your profit/gain.

Who will pay 4m for a muscle camry?

Money will be tied down for months.


Because of this huge cost, some dealers prefer bringing in crashed cars that will be less expensive which is bad as long as the cars are not irreparable.

But sir, what am saying is, if a dealer is bringing in accidented cars, he should let the buyers no about the accident/the history.


I dont know if you'll believe that some dealers will import extremely crashed/flooded/rollover cars with about 300k or more on the odometer.

They will roll back the odo.

They will tag it accident free/clean title with huge price.

Like you said, some crashed cars are expensive and i agree.


But the reason for this thread is why tagging a car accident free/clean title when the car has been badly damaged, rolled over, with deployed airbags, damaged frames and like that.

I dont have any reason to hate anyone, am not not a dealer.

We should just be sincere to ourselves.

Rayd502:
How is this possible when you aren't furnished with the vin?

The lot number on the windshield can do the running.

Keith Simons, 13, killed himself at Jackson Memorial Middle School on February 20 after going back on an elaborate plan to commit mass murder.

He wrote a 13-page manifesto about his plan but turned to suicide at the last minute and died in the school bathroom.



Diego Horta, 17, was arrested after being found on Tuesday in a parking lot near a school in Rowlett, Texas, with a rifle and 100 rounds of ammunition.



Deandre Fleming, 18, was arrested after writing on Instagram that he wanted to'kill teachers and anyone who gets in my way.



Jack Sawyer, 18, was arrested for aggravated attempted murder, attempted first-degree murder and attempted assaulted murder for plotting an attack on Haven High School in Vermont

A student in Miami Dade posted this imaget on Snapchat last month.

He was questioned over it but has not been named or charged.


A 15-year-old kid on Instagram writing under the name 'brevard shooter' postedthis photograph threatening another school.

They were later arrested by police.


This image went viral after appearing on February 15, the day after the shooting in Florida.

It was taken by a teen in Spartanburg, South Carolina, who was later arrested.

Since gunman Nikolas Cruz slaughtered 17 people in a Valentine's Day massacre at Stoneman Douglas High School last month, dozens of sickening threats of similar shootings have been made across the country.

They include threats from students and adults and vary in their seriousness.

In one case, the teenager killed himself in the school bathroom instead of acting out a plan to commit mass murder.

He was not the only one who was able to sneak weapons on to campus othershave been arrested after police received tips from other students that they had handguns in their backpacks.



Thankfully none of the plots have been executed.

Many were foiled because the intended shooters publicized their plans on social media and shared photographs of themselves with guns.

They have however sparked panic in many cases and, in some, caused school closures. Now, dozens of youngsters across the country are facing felony charges.

Most are not named because they are minors.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5460311/The-chilling-school-shooting-threats-Parkland.html
Lalasticlala, Mynd44

Cosplay:
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obekediamondfuto:
ately1

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The front of the car contains the fuel tank and the luggage space while the engine is placed in the rear.

Odometer, 52,837 miles.

The interior appears original and generally well-preserved and, despite being 60 years old, is thought to have been driven just 52,837 miles.

The new owner can expect to spend a further £80,000 if they wish to return the car to concours quality.


If fully refurbished, the car, pictured, could be worth in excess of ₦370m

It had numerous owners until 1973 when it was parked up in a garage and left for decades.



The 60-year-old sports car rolled off the production line in 1957 before it was exported to the United States.


Its original engine was removed and taken apart and, after the best part of half-a-century of neglect, the bodywork and wheels are covered in rust.


The car still has its original four-cylinder engine which is ready to be reconditioned having been cleaned.

A rusty old Porsche which doesn't work has been described as one of the most exciting discoveries in recent years and it is set to sell for £500,000.

The Porsche 356A 1500 GS Carrera Coupe helped bridge the gap between the company's sports vehicles and racing cars when it debuted in 1955.

But this 1957 model hasn't been driven for 45 years after its brakes failed a safety inspection in Georgia inthe early 1970s.


The 60-year-old Porsche has been parked in a barn in the United States where it has been left to rust.





Gooding & Co, the US auction house, has described itas 'certainly one of the most exciting barn-find discoveries in recent memory'.

They have given it a guide price of £500,000 ahead ofits sale on March 9 at Amelia Island, Florida.



The Porsche 356A 1500 GS Carrera Coupe was discovered in a barn in the United States where it has languished for 45 years.



If fully refurbished, the car, pictured, could be worth in excess of ₦370m.







http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5460033/Rusty-barn-Porsche-356A-set-hammer-500k.html
Lalasticlala, Mynd44

TheMadame:
The fact is that these dealers fraudulently smuggle these vehicles through the numerous Bush paths between Nigeria and Benin Republic.
Of course the original bill of lading of the vehicle will read Cotonou as the port of entry. How do they beat this and lodge it imto the customs data base?
They look for a vehicle with similar name to the smuggled vehicle genuinely cleared through Tin can or Apapa port . Get hold of the documents and insert the chasis number,engine number and probably VIN. They hand these documents to the buyer of the car as Tin can cleared so that if the buyer checks at the customs data base the c number will come up as being in the Customs system but the payment is for another vehicle.
So if you are checking your vehicle papers at the customs office make sure a proper check of the chassis and engine number tallies with the numbers on the vehicle being sold to you.
Due dilligence is necessary when dealing with these guys.

That's bad.

Rip

klens:
Please explorer Is it safe to order car from copart? And how can I clear it? Will custom seize it? Because I want to buy my next car from copart

Am not a car dealer bro, can't answer that question, maybe you should check the Auto section.

Ive not done it before, but some people are doing it and is workings.

If you can do it yourself, no issue, but if you're using a dealer, becareful.

Because as things are now, can't even recommend anyone.