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 Politics › Re: Describe The "SMILES" In One Word.. by Expressions(m): 1:18pm On Feb 07, 2015 |
[size=15pt]"Teeth-for-Tat"[/size] This method is called being diplomatic; a soothing expression for the strange mixture of crafty cheating, of hypocrisy and falsehood, and of the greed which is always lying in wait triumphantly to create advantages for oneself at the expense of weaknesses discovered in others. |
| Romance › Re: You Need To Read These Basic Steps To Adapt In Our World Today by Expressions(m): 1:03pm On Feb 07, 2015 |
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| Romance › Re: - by Expressions(op): 9:54am On Feb 07, 2015*. Modified: 10:27am On Feb 07, 2015 |
| Romance › Re: - by Expressions(op): 9:43am On Feb 07, 2015 |
obongproff:You most likely are into science. It is quite imperative to understand the outworking of the flesh for a more conscious and effective control of it. |
| Romance › Re: - by Expressions(op): 9:38am On Feb 07, 2015*. Modified: 12:10am On Mar 03, 2015 |
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| Romance › Re: Help! She Broke Up With Me And Still Want Us To Be Friends. by Expressions(m): 12:46am On Feb 07, 2015 |
Kingsasian:The issue was past lifestyle. You have no problem with that. So what's the issue? It hurts, I can relate with that but: I think you're lucky she's straight up with you. Resiprocate the gesture by letting her know your problem which is your inability to maintain friendships with exes. Whatever comes out of it becomes your "should do". Disclaimer: I'm no love doc. 1 Like
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 11:11pm On Feb 06, 2015 |
[size=13pt]FINALLY let me add this as a "bonus", as I enjoin you all to seek further personally[/size]: Even during His final moments, Christ still maintained His stance: Luke 23:27 And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him. 23:28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. 23:29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. 23:30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. 23:31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry? Nothing of this sounded like a thing of joy. More like an indictment...even in His final moments. Regards.
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 11:07pm On Feb 06, 2015*. Modified: 11:35pm On Feb 06, 2015 |
Interpretation: Jesus opens the story by referring to a vineyard. This image is rich with Old Testament and Jewish background, alluding to the presence of promise in Israel... When Jesus places tenants in the story, He enriches the Old Testament imagery by setting up the role of the nation and leadership as caretakers for the promise. This addition is significant because the parable concludes with the vineyard given to others, a reference to Gentile inclusion in the promise. The servants represent the series of prophets whom the nation rejected... and is Jesus' response to the plot of Luke 19:47. The nation is a poor tenant, lacking fruit and abusing those sent to check on its work (13:6-9). The calls for fruit and repentance for its absence have gone unheeded—in fact, they have been rejected and ignored. Three times the owner's representatives are cast out. There is no significance in the number three other than to point out that God sent prophets to the nation repeatedly. The vineyard owner, God, decides to send "my son, whom I love" (3:22; 9:35), hoping that the stubborn tenants will at least respect him. The owner anticipates that his son's visit will be fruitful. But with logic that illustrates sin's blindness, the tenants decide that if they slay the son, they will inherit the land. When land belonged to someone without an heir, inheritance followed a certain custom: when the owner died, the land usually passed on to those who worked the land. Their scheme, of course, assumes that the murderers will not be discovered. There is a major blind spot in their thinking. Given their past track record with the owner's servants, wouldn't these tenants be among the first murder suspects? Hardness of heart does strange things. So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him, an allusion to Jesus' death outside Jerusalem. Jesus knows the leaders have rejected Him so that death is His fate. In Luke's telling of the parable, the violence steadily increases as each messenger comes. The rejection is firmer all the time. The nation has gone the opposite direction from repentance. So what will the owner do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others. The vineyard goes to those outside the leadership, even the nation, as the promise will encompass many people of the nations. The point of God's judgment on the nation is clear as the crowd responds, "May this never be!" The point is clear and shocking to all—this should never happen, they respond. Yet this very act of murder is days away from taking place! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 11:02pm On Feb 06, 2015 |
The Parable of the Wicked Husbandman. - [b]Luke 20:9 Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time. 20:10 And at the season he sent a servant to the husbandmen, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the husbandmen beat him, and sent him away empty. 20:11 And again he sent another servant: and they beat him also, and entreated him shamefully, and sent him away empty. 20:12 And again he sent a third: and they wounded him also, and cast him out. 20:13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him. 20:14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours. 20:15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them? NB: He didn't say He will forgive or wash away their crimes against the son. 20:16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, "May this never happen!".[/b] |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 10:56pm On Feb 06, 2015 |
All you have to do is quote in line with these His statements while He was alive: Matthew 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 10:47pm On Feb 06, 2015*. Modified: 6:52am On Feb 07, 2015 |
ayoku777 I have gone through your posts. What I could see in your posts is your rounded knowledge in the Bible as a whole right? I also see one who, guided by the Holy Spirit, is able to connect the different parts of seemingly inconsistent statements to make a wholesome sense right? Okay, for the sake of the numerous passive viewers, here's what we'll do: I'll summaries all I've been pointing out, then you do us the honour of making a consistent sense of it citing any part of the Bible. NB the Bible in your hands may not necessarily be a complete whole; the evolution of the Bible has gone through various stages, versions translations and passed through many hands. -Bishops gathered before you were born to decide which Books should make up the Bible and which should be expunged from the Bible. That's why you have for instance the Good News Bible having more Books in it than the Bible used by pentecostal churches. Have you heard of the Book of Eunuch? In that Book, Christ was reported to have given an answer to the question asked by the Pilate: "And what is the Truth?" Why isn't that Book part of the Bible? That said, my summary: |
| Celebrities › Re: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Nominated For Grammy Award With Beyonce by Expressions(m): 5:57pm On Feb 06, 2015 |
Awww, she reminds me so much of my best friend. Kudos! |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Jordanians Jets Honour Slain Pilot by Expressions(m): 5:48pm On Feb 06, 2015 |
[size=15pt]"Hhmm... but I'll do same if re-elected"[/size]
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| Jokes Etc › Re: - by Expressions(op): 12:01am On Feb 06, 2015 |
OGAofBOSS:Sure I'll reserve the heavier one; hungry man size  |
| Jokes Etc › Re: - by Expressions(op): 11:52pm On Feb 05, 2015 |
afolag:Ayam guilty though, but psychologically only.  This is something else. Amen! o@ story will change. We need change! |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 11:43pm On Feb 05, 2015*. Modified: 12:18am On Feb 06, 2015 |
iamjane:Yes that's how it was reported in the Bible. But you know we've to be careful with our thoughts lest we imply He either didn't know what He had been saying when He was against the plot of having Him killed, or He was afraid and yielding to the flesh. The Son of God was above such. Note however that the statement you just quoted was said at the Last Supper. That moment when it had become clear that those scheming religious bigots weren't going to heed His words/warnings against killing Him. He declared thereby that He was even willing to accept death on the cross, just to have the opportunity to bring the Truth to erring mankind through His teaching, which alone shows the way to the forgiveness of sins. He says expressly: “Forgiveness for many” not “forgiveness for all!” Thus only for those who take His teachings to heart and make vital use of them. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 11:22pm On Feb 05, 2015 |
An2elect2:This distinct people you speak of, I suppose are only members of the church? In other words He gave Himself for the Christians only? Members of other religions and sects are automatically cut off and can only access salvation when they become Christians? I like your definition of the evil World. I'm still waiting for you to land, I'm sure you still have more to expatiate. |
| Jokes Etc › - by Expressions(op): 11:02pm On Feb 05, 2015*. Modified: 12:14am On Mar 03, 2015 |
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| Politics › Re: Assuming 1k Has Been Deducted From Ur Account For GEJ Campaign,what Will U D Do? by Expressions(m): 1:40pm On Feb 05, 2015 |
[size=15pt]I won't do anything until after the election[/size] 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 7:45pm On Feb 02, 2015*. Modified: 8:19pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
[quote author=An2elect2 post=30274708]I apologize for the manner in which I responded to your post; I actually thought you were pulling my legs with your keynote questions seeing that your new signature was apparently saying something else. But then I thought to myself, you're right, going to church doesn't in fact qualify one as a Christian. It's on this premise that I will attempt your points/questions.- Alright. But i dunno your thread and posts are not straight forward. Somewhere along the line am getting the impression that you are saying his death was by chance even though it was foreknown? it was not his plan to die and yet that was the only way sin could be conquered?Of course it was foreknown, written and even foretold. Let me give you a 'parable'- I send you, as innocent as you look, to ISIL to deliver a Message to them telling them that their ways lead to destruction and that they should listen to what you have to say if they are to have eternal life. Do you need a seer to tell you what your fate there would be? The point is apart from the fact that His fate can clearly be forseen due to our lost dark and evil ways, history bears witness that killing genuine messengers from God is not something that began with Christ. Even John was beheaded. That was what Christ tried to express in the Parable of the Husbandman. The second underlined question was what I asked: if death was the only way why would He censure/warn against those who were working towards fulfilling His mission of having Himself killed? He would have simply said: "Tarry a while, for my time has not come". i take it that you believe salvation should be worked for. No? we shouldn't mind the scripture that says it is by grace? How do you go about obtaining and keeping this salvation till the end? do you mind sharing?Grace is undeserved favour. Mankind didn't deserve the Gift of the Son of God. So we can rightly say: grace came to man through Jesus Christ. Before His coming, our efforts were useless, because we were working wrongly, walking along the wrong path/way. Hence He came to show us the right path or right way. Therefore we now work by His Grace. Through this Grace, our works will then overflow as blessings into the lives of others. I know all these. Note that part (most important) of this works/efforts is penitence/repentance. That strong resolve not to dwell in the old but to adhere to the teachings of Christ. Without penitence, it doesn't matter how much prayer is rendered upon you... I indulge in sin, hurt my neighbour for the wherewithal of life, I go to church, pay my tithes, the pastor prays for me and says my sins have been washed by the blood of Jesus, I say a resounding AMEN! I leave church feeling new and the cycle continues. Has my sin been wiped out? I don't understand why I'm being told also that Christ abolished the Law and that we are now in the era of Grace. I really think if I were blind and couldn't read the Bible myself, I would have been misled somehow. Isn't this statement clear enough: Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Christ died not to redeem us from our sins but to show us the way to redeem ourselves@bolded: Christ was actually murdered/killed against His Will. Ask me how, but only after you have read my previous posts. But don't get me wrong, He died for you and I; I mean He had the option of fleeing or denying that He IS the Son of God but He didn't and that's why today we have a lifestyle, a relationship called Christianity. @underlined: There's Power in the Word of God. Jesus was the Word of God Incarnate. The true Word of God has the Power to quicken the weak flesh to produce good works hence it is said, we can do all things through Christ Who strengths us. Should we fall in temptation, His Grace is sufficient to forgive but on the condition that you make the first effort which is penitence. Yes i believe we must strive towards perfection but whose power are we appealing to here?It is not by our power nor by our might but like I said, by His Grace and Power. It's only through His Grace that our works will bear good fruits. yes this is true but am afraid the application used here might be wrong.Really, what could be wrong about it, let's see..... Without the shedding of blood can any sin be remitted? If Christ's blood did not wipe out the sins of those he died for(He died for some not all) what will? our obedience?@bolded: the answer is YES! @underlinded: hmmm, you're actually telling me something here. I didn't actually think of it like that. What is sin? What opened doors to sin? Disobedience right (C.R.K). Hmm, by implication, that can only mean that obedience is the key. But I'll expatiate: I said YES! because firstly you would have to commit a grave sin to shed blood- Thou shalt not kill. Also I understand blood sacrifices were practices of the old but it should be noted that God did not delight in it: [b]Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword:[/b] The psalmist puts it thus: The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. A broken and contrite heart speaks of repentance. Christ was reported to have said: not those who say Lord, Lord, but those who do the Will of His Father in Heaven. -Now that's the definition of Obedience. @He died for some, I'm studying your response, would get back to it lol you made me ask more questions.You're welcome to ask and/or contribute more. Once again I apologize. cc: christemmbassey
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| Music/Radio › Re: Banky W 'Unborn Child' Video (Featuring Lynnxx) by Expressions(m): 6:46am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Yields:I couldn't agree more. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: Buhari Defeated The Maitatsine Islamic Sect - New York Times 1984 Article by Expressions(m): 6:41am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Yields:That's true. From experience I always thought you had this piercing stare, like you could see through my thoughts.  |
| Nairaland General › Re: Ayiri Emmami's Brother Posts Photos Of Lekki Prostitute On Instagram by Expressions(m): 6:34am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Yields:You nailed it there. |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 11:41pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
An2elect2: But seriously now, I appreciate your input, I understand where you're coming from and what you're driving at. You just made me appreciate how deeply rooted are the church doctrines in the subconscious mind of the average Christian. I know all that you have pointed out. But as a Christian, I owe my allegiance first to my Lord Jesus Christ. I'm sure we both agree on this. If you do, then do you know the implication of the above highlighted words/questions of yours? The question is: Are you implying He, the Son of God was trying to go against the Will of His Father which was to come and get killed? Kindly read through my post, I quoted direct statements of Christ according to the Bible including the Parable of the Husbandman which channelz added, where He clearly and sternly warned against the plot to kill/murder Him. An2elect2 that's the crux of this thread. It is not straight forward like you said because it is not in tandem with the hitherto accustomed church doctrine we all grew up knowing. Sorry I answered your questions with a question. When the main issue has been settled, I'll gladly use my spiritual razor to dissect your questions. lol... Regards. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 7:12pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
Aareeasy:Rhetorical? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Did Christ Actually Take Away The Sins Of The World? by Expressions(op): 6:55pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
Shawl001: That's why I opened this thread because I found statements in the Bible reported as being spoken by the Son of God Himself during His sojourn on earth which is in contradistinction to the above highlighted words. I quoted several statements of Christ as reported in the Bible which led to my questioning the accustomed doctrines and dogma, which finally led to my conclusion. Not that I'm trying to be convincing here. Now all you can do here is quote just a few statements of Jesus Himself (not from 'posthumous' books like the Acts) where He asserted that He came to let Himself be killed. Then we'll have something tangible to talk about. Below is attached the purpose for which He came into this world; note that was a direct speech. I'm sure you know what Truth is? Or are you going to also ask me: "And what is the Truth?" Regards. 1 Like
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| Romance › Re: 17 Signs That Shows She's No Longer Interested In You by Expressions(m): 6:22pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
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