₦airaland Forum

ayoku777:
That's true, knowledge is progressive and intimacy with the Holy Spirit is the only way to guide and guard against error.

iamjane:
So it's now you remember your fourth point (gift of discernment), after one must have been led astray by your first three points
Oh now you know there are more to what you think you know, you only see the vastness of this Creation from the one sided religious view.

Who said anything about patronising evil here?! Without knowing it you praise evil or d.evil by elevating it. You contradict yourself. Without Power can there be magic?! Magic or any other wrong/dark(dimmed)/evil use of this Power, is inferior and as such short lived with no lasting value..... it's like going for golden-tinsel thinking it's gold. That's why it's called dark power ie, dimmed power; the dimming of the potent pure radiant Power from God.
It's like polluting pure water. Who says foul water cannot be used to cook soup? Is soup a bad thing? Do I need to advise anyone not to eat soup prepared with foul water?

What do you know of the concept of good? If I as a computer guru create a VIRUS and then come around to u with a solution, an ANTI VIRUS does that qualify my act as good?

Ok, I won't run to a magician, let me go to a prophet instead and then alas!it's a false prophet. ..What's the difference. You talk as if the spirit of discernment is sold in the market. Probably I should come to you for that.

I do not claim to know it so I can't say things like ABSOLUTELY!

People need only the Truth inherent in the pure unadulterated Teachings of Jesus and adhere to It to be free. There re many things Christ would have taught us but man was not ripe for it at that time. He then promised the Spirit of Truth.

I am open to knowledge and truth. ..

So please don't try to confine us in your box.

iamjane:
Matthew:
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Vs23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


For the benefit of the gullible:
To lure or deceive another, a BAIT is used (ie something that appeals to you not something that can be easily discerned and rejected out rightly!

MatthewVs24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

iamjane:
Mat:
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

I couldn't agree more

The question for him is those imposters performing 'miracles' in the name of Jesus, what power and to what end. Miracle or magic?

Ayed44:
If there were doubts as to he real intentions behind the determination of Professor Attahiru Jega, National Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, to foist on Nigeria an electoral process that gives unparalleled advantage to his northern part of the country through the instrumentality of a lopsided allocation of some 21,000 Polling Units, PUs, as against slightly over 8,000 PUs for the states of the South, the doubts disappeared at his ast week’s meeting with Resident Electoral Commissioners, RECs.

At that meeting, like a “pulpit bully”, and against convention where decisions at INEC are reached through consensus, Jega insisted that RECs should be involved in the admittedly primitive mode of open voting on a matter that was as controversial as PUs allocation.

This report presents Jega’s systematic approach to see through his scheme, starting with his attempt at power mongering.

MEETING WITH RECs

Driven by a messianic desire to confer electoral advantage on northern Nigeria against states in the South, the Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, Professor Attahiru Jega, upped the ante last week at a meeting with Resident Electoral Commissioners, RECs.

The meeting took place at the INEC Headquarters in the Federal Capital Territory, FCT, Abuja.

It was a stormy meeting, held Wednesday, October 15, 2014.

Inside sources at the meeting expressed shock at what was described as the “pulpit bully” attitude of the INEC Chairman.

Sunday Vanguard gathered that what was meant to be a meeting of minds, where the main focus would be the now controversial lopsided allocation of Polling Units, PUs, turned out to be a farcical engagement, with Jega, practically “coercing the commissioners”

There were 30 RECs in attendance.

What was strange, however, was that the RECs did not know that they were being led into an ambush by Jega, whose proclivity for maximum control of INEC had, sometime last year, seen him write to the Attorney General of the Federation, seeking clarification about the powers of his office (details are provided below).

CONCERN RAISED BY RECs IGNORED

REC after REC, most of those in attendance expressed concern on the PUs controversy and “actually counseled that the idea be shelved until after the 2015 general elections.

“The meeting, which also reviewed the ongoing Continuous Voter Registration (CVR) and the distribution of the Permanent Voter Card (PVC), witnessed several expressions of concerns by State Electoral Commissioners whose appraisal of the PVC distribution process was mostly unsatisfactory,’’ a source at the meeting said.

“They insisted that the Commission was moving too slowly and that the limited time barely three months left for the election may be insufficient for the exercise if things were not fast-tracked”.

THE DICTATOR CHARGES

The source further disclosed that Jega waxed dictatorial:

“Jega insisted on conflating the time pressure by pressing forward with the much criticized allocation of new Polling Units.

This came against sound advice by some commissioners who warned that given the prevailing public perception regarding the Polling Units allocation, it may raise unnecessary ethnic tensions’’.

“Even when he was reminded of the letter from the Senate Committee on INEC”, the source continued, he was said to have reacted angrily that the letter was not a decision of the whole Senate and has no effect.

Similarly, he was said to have been reminded of the fact that some groups of Nigerians and even a political party have gone to court over the matter and there was need to suspend the exercise, but he bluntly responded that, except there was a court order, the Polling Units must be created.

He may be right on that score: only a court order, in the strictest sense, can stop him, especially based on the seeming messianic inclination.

But more was to come.

For a Chairman who treats some of the commissioners as his staff, Sunday Vanguard learnt that even the letter from the Senate Committee calling for the suspension of the allocation was read on the pages of newspapers like most Nigerians.

The letter has not been discussed at any formal meeting apart from the tangential mention it got last week.

Jega, it was gathered, had also been sent a security advisory given the dangerous dimension the lopsided PUs had taken; but this was ignored.

Even then, it was gathered that RECs from the South-West, South-South, South-East and, interestingly, North-Central, verbally cautioned Jega.

Sensing that the tide was turning against his desperation, the INEC Chairman, the source went on, called for voting which was agreed to.

PRIMITIVE OPEN VOTING

But he ambushed the commissioners by directing that the voting process should be open.

“In the end”, the source went on, “voting was conducted – in which three, RECs who had previously advised against the policy and still maintained their objections, abstained from participating in the voting because they were angry and disappointed that, despite the clear voices of the majority who advised against it, the Chairman surprisingly called for vote thereby allowing the matter to degenerate and brought to a clear-cut sectional dichotomy.

“After the voting, Jega got 13 votes for his lopsided PUs, and 13 votes against.”

But this was a stalemate. Althou it would have been 14 for him but one vote was voided because the administrative secretary who represented the REC from Benue State had his vote voided.

Now, had the three abstaining RECs been counted and the votes of six who did not attend as well as some Administrative Secretaries who did not vote, because they erroneously thought the voting was for commissioners only were taken to account, it was clear even to Jega that he was swimming against the tide of internal and external stakeholder opinion.

Despite this, less than 24 hours after the stalemate, the INEC Chairman directed a Director, one Musa H. Adamu, through a letter dated, Thursday, October 16, 2014, to all RECs, to submit report on the implementation of the PUs in their respective states on or before Thursday, October 30, 2014.

Nuru Yakubu, who is seen as the architect of the allocation, Musa Adamu and Jega himself are all from the North and appear to be pushing an agenda that places undue advantage in the hands of the North against the states of the South.

This was the same way the northern dominated military regimes created for Nigeria the lopsided 774 local governments with the North preponderantly favoured against states of the South; just as state creation has left the South-East geo-political zone with just five states whereas the North-West has seven states.

Meanwhile, the lopsided local governments creation engenders a regime of unequal resource allocation in a nation of clashing socio-political and economic interests.

It is under this same condition that Jega had sought extra-legal platform to capture all available powers in INEC, part of a grand scheme to ride rough shod over his colleagues.

JEGA SEEKS MORE POWERS

To get the legal backing to his enormous power-grab, Jega had written a letter dated June 19, 2013, to Mohammed Adoke, Attorney General and Minister of Justice, asking for clarification on who should be the accounting officer of the body.

He noted: “Since our assumption of office as a new Commission in July 2010, having regard to the fact that neither the Constitution nor the Electoral Act defined the role of the Secretary to the Commission as the Accounting Officer, I have considered myself as such, relying upon provisions of the Procurement Act, particularly Sections 18, 19 and 20 of the Act and Regulations issued by the Bureau of Public Procurement to the effect that in an MDA/Corporate procuring entity, the Chief Executive is the Accounting Officer.

“I have also done this, given the weighty personal liability which the Procurement Act places on the shoulders of the Accounting Officer.

The tradition in INEC had been that a Permanent Secretary was posted as the Secretary, until 2008, when INEC, having regard to the provisions of the Constitution and Electoral Act appointed its Secretary. The functions/roles of the Secretary as specified did not say or imply that he is the Accounting Officer”.

Jega told Adoke that the clarification was necessary in the light of the restructuring and reorganisation going on in the commission as it prepares for what he described as “better, effective and efficient service delivery towards 2015 and beyond”.

He insisted that it was “pertinent to seek this clarification for the avoidance of doubt and in order to put lingering matters to rest.”

The “lingering matters” Jega spoke about, it was learnt, might not be unconnected with what a source described as the frosty relationship between the Chairman and other commissioners over the chairman’s powers.

ADOKE CLARIFIES LIMITS OF CHAIRMAN’S POWERS

In a July 26, 2013 reply to Jega’s request, Adoke declared categorically that the Chairman is not the accounting officer of INEC.

Adoke said: “I have examined relevant provisions of the law particularly, the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999, the Electoral Act, the Public Procurement Act and extant Financial Regulations in order to determine whether the law has expressly provided for the position of either the ‘Chief Executive Officer’ or ‘Accounting Officer’ of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC).

“Regrettably, it would appear that no such terminology was used in the statutes examined. Item 14(1)(a) of Part 1 to the Third Schedule of the Constitution only provides that the Chairman shall be the Chief Electoral Commissioner.

The provision does not state that the ‘Chief Electoral Commissioner’ is the ‘Chief Executive Officer.

“I have similarly examined the functions and powers of the Commission as provided for in item 15 of Part 1 of the Third Schedule to the Constitution and sections 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the Electoral Act and wish to observe that these are functions and powers that can only be exercised by the Commission and not by the Chairman or any individual Commissioner except as may be delegated by the Commission under Section 152 of the Electoral Act or item 15(h) of Part 1 to the Third Schedule to the Constitution.”

“Consequently, in the absence of any clear donation of the powers of a Chief Executive Officer or Accounting Officer by the relevant statutes, and in the absence of any evidence to indicate that these functions and powers of the Commission have been delegated to the Chairman, I am unable to come to the reasoned conclusion that the law contemplates that the Chairman of INEC shall be the Chief Executive Officer or Accounting Officer of the Commission,” Adoke explained.

He added that the Electoral Act confers on the Secretary enormous administrative powers akin to those of Directors-General, who are “statutorily the Accounting Officers and Chief Executive Officers of their various Commissions”.

Adoke pointed out that this is what obtains in similar commissions, such as Police Service Commission, National Population Commission and Federal Judicial Service Commission.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/northsouth-division-tears-inec-apart/

Rexxie:
what you are trying to analyse is way far above you. There is a whole lot of difference between waging a war and fighting terrorists. The pearl harbor and nagasaki events took place during world war2. Soldiers are not invicible but terrorist and insurgents basically are and the bh and n.deltans militants fall into the category of the latter. So please,dont hope or wish for a situation where nigeria will have to,again, put up with n.deltan militants who have learnt the art of war and have yet to employ the use of suicide bombers and the likes or a resurgent bh insurgents and terrorists who would definitely not be making the costly mistake,again,of declaring its territory/caliphate or hoisting its flag but who will be resorting to its horrible use of suicide missions and bombings, simply because you have a strong nigerian army. The fight against militant,insurgents or terrorists has got nothing to do with convectional methods of war as far as they are concerned, but it aint so with the military, unless they are ready to face war crimes tribunals...if someway,somehow buhari finds his arsse at the villa,based on his past expressions, he wont be giving much damn'bout the n.delta and their legitimate agitation and definitely things gonna apart real fast and not augur well..
To be continued.
In the meantime,its...
#gej till '19

brocab:
Everyone seems to blame God, it was God that made a beautiful garden, he then made man' Adam, then a woman eve, both not satisfied, but walked away from God's creation. Because man met the Devil, the Devil made an offer to man, he couldn't refuse. The Devil said: to the man I will give you all the kingdoms and it's glory of the earth' if you will bow down and worship me. Well of course you know the answer to that. Some years ago, I met a old soldier, he said: to me if God was so good, why then does he allow children who play in mine-fields, loosing there life's. My answer to his question was, it was man that buried those land-mines, and its man that are to lazy to dig them out, for the children to play. So you can blame God? When you know the truth "yourself". Man had made his choice and it was man that murdered innocent people. And it's man that blame God because man can't accept his own responsibility's. Plus have you yourself prayed to God.

God Allowed six million of the Children of Israel, his “chosen” people, to be slaughtered by Hitler

abdulwastecx:
The reason why your God cannot answer him is because he doesn't exist. ..
God is just a man creation. created to filled the empty mind of gullible people.

Revelation 6:16
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

6:17 For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Yields:
Instead of you to take responsibility for your own actions and trust Him, you're spewing rubbish and blaming Him for your problems, and you wonder why your situation isn't changing. God is no respecter of persons. Digging yourself into more sin isn't going to help. Humble yourself before Him and ask for forgiveness.

Revelation 6:16
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

6:17 For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Revelation 6:16
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

6:17 For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Sheenor:
11. Thaddeus or Jude
Listed together with Simon the Zealot Ά̲̣̥πϑ James the Less, the Apostle Thaddeus completes a grouping of the least known disciples. In Twelve Ordinary Men, John MacArthur's book about the apostles,
Thaddeus, also known as Jude, is characterized as a tender-hearted, gentle man who displayed childlike humility. Scholars believe Thaddeus wrote the book
of Jude. It's a short epistle, but the closing two verses contain a beautiful doxology, one of the finest expression of praise to God in the entire New Testament.

Sheenor:
11. Thaddeus or Jude
Listed together with Simon the Zealot Ά̲̣̥πϑ James the Less, the Apostle Thaddeus completes a grouping of the least known disciples. In Twelve Ordinary Men, John MacArthur's book about the apostles,
Thaddeus, also known as Jude, is characterized as a tender-hearted, gentle man who displayed childlike humility. Scholars believe Thaddeus wrote the book
of Jude. It's a short epistle, but the closing two verses contain a beautiful doxology, one of the finest expressions of praise to God in the entire New Testament.

busterr:
goats know better than most nigerians, next will be cow defeacating on buhari's poster.

temhab:
Have you heard about sme before

FreshGreen:
ARE YOU MARRIED TO YOUR CELLPHONE?
Technology is evolving so quickly that many of us are barely aware of how our behavior is changing and how our most important relationships are threatened.

You’re driving down a city street and find yourself stuck behind someone going 15 mph below the speed limit. What’s your first thought? That guy needs to get off his cell phone!

You’re sitting in the stands at a high school football game. You notice that many of the students are not only ignoring the game but they’re also ignoring the friends seated beside them—instead they are busy texting other friends.

You walk through an airport concourse and notice a man pacing back and forth, waving his hands while he talks on his cell phone in a voice that bounces off the walls 30 yards away. You think, That’s why I hope they never allow people to make calls with their cell phones on a flight.

Sound familiar? In the last 15 years the cell phone has conquered the world. I could make a list of 50 ways these phones have improved our lives. But if you’re like me and can remember what life was like before we all got cell phones, you may wonder if all the changes are really for the good.

Remember those days when you could go to a movie—or to church—and not worry about being distracted by ringing phones or by the white glow of someone texting a friend? Remember when meetings at work weren’t interrupted by phone calls that people just had to accept?

And here’s one more scene we all see regularly:
You walk into a restaurant and you notice a couple seated near you. And you notice that they really are not enjoying this opportunity to be together, because one is patiently waiting for the other to stop talking or texting on the cell phone. And you think, How sad that they aren’t talking to each other.

Plugged in 24/7
Adjusting to a new technology is nothing new. Electricity, automobiles, telephones, radio, television, computers, and many other new inventions sparked significant changes in our culture and in the way we related to our spouses, our children, and our friends. But the pace of change since 1995 has been breathtaking. We’ve seen the emergence of the internet and of mobile phones, and then the convergence of the two. We can now be plugged in wherever we are, 24/7.

The technology is evolving so quickly that most of us are barely aware of how our behavior is changing and our relationships are affected. As one reader wrote after I addressed this issue a couple months ago in a series of Marriage Memo e-mails, “These mobile devices can take over your life.” Another said, “I understand technology has its advantages, but we are being ruled by the technology rather than using it as a tool.”

A number of readers were dismayed at how addiction to the new technology was affecting their marriages. For example:

“I'm usually the spouse waiting for my husband to get off the cell, iPad, instagram, text messaging, Facebook, or some other game that has him hooked. I'm tired of having my conversations through text messages and would enjoy an old-fashioned conversation face-to-face. But the truth is we barely have anything to say to each other anymore.”

“My husband and I have struggled for the last 25 years of our marriage with conversation, but what has happened now is Facebook has taken over. If dinner isn't ready when he comes home, he's on Facebook until it is. Every morning he gets up and hits Facebook to see who's been on. Sadly he does not see it as an issue. And I fear I am not alone in this.”
“I am one of those people at the restaurant with her spouse, waiting and feeling lonely. My husband is always looking at his phone, checking his email or his bank account, his Facebook, and his texts. I just sit waiting and thinking to myself, ‘Why am I not good enough for him? Why does he have to be entertained by everyone and everything else?’ It deeply depresses me and he just cannot understand my point of view.”

Replacing conversation with connectivity
Some people gravitate toward texting or Twitter for communication just as they did years ago toward email—it’s simpler, faster, easier. What they don’t realize is how much is lost in those mediums—emotion, facial expressions, tone of voice, and much more. It can be dangerous to replace conversation with connectivity.

One woman wrote about problems in her marriage: “… many arguments occur because of something that was texted and was misunderstood by one of us. Today my husband texted me after refusing to have a conversation last night. I thought the tone of his text was ugly and didn't respond. Later he texted me asking why I didn't respond and I said I would rather talk than text because texting can be misunderstood. His response was ‘I enjoy texting. Speak message. Little emotion. Can get right to point.’”

What a classic quote, and so typically male: “I enjoy texting. Speak message. Little emotion. Can get right to point.” The problem is that real relationships require real conversation and real emotion.

“When we text, email, Facebook, and the like, we lose a vital piece of relationships: the emotional connection,” wrote another reader. “Without the sound of our voices, the body language, the touch, we as humans lose what God intended to be a vital part of how we are supposed to relate and a vital part of how we are supposed to receive love and be in communion with others.”

Household rules
It’s not that the technology is inherently bad. Far from it—it helps us connect with people in many positive ways. The problem is that so many people are unable to control it. It’s as if they are married to their cell phones.

I received some great tips from readers about the boundaries they were implementing to promote face-to-face communication in their marriages. Here are some highlights:

1. No devices at the dinner table. This was mentioned many times in emails. Dinner time should be reserved for face-to-face conversation. There will be plenty of time after dinner to reply to phone calls and text messages.

One family calls this rule “TTT—Timeout from Technology at the Table.”

2. No phones at the restaurant. “My husband and I have made a deal for date nights,” wrote one wife. “He is way too plugged in to TV and his phone. Therefore when we are out at restaurants we are not allowed to use our phones unless it is a call from the babysitter. Also we do not go to restaurants that have televisions because he will be too distracted, and I will be mad that he is not totally engaged. We all need to find time daily to disconnect from all the information and reconnect with our families with good ‘old-fashioned’ conversation.”

Another reader said she and her husband leave their cell phones in the car before they enter a restaurant.

3. No texting or talking about really important personal issues over the phone. This should be done face-to-face, unless it is something that can't wait. One reader said, “There is a huge gap in a 'conversation' when texting because you don't really fully understand what that person really means unless you hear the tone in their voice or see their face and a lot can be taken the wrong way, creating bad feelings, etc.”
Love the one you’re with

All these boundaries establish a strong family value: When you’re with someone, that relationship is your priority. Retraining will take some time if you, your spouse, or your children have become addicted to your devices. But keeping them in their rightful place will, in the words of one reader, “open up the door to more intimate communication with your spouse and family.”

I also liked the comment from a reader who pointed out, “Anything that becomes a necessity has the ability to become an idol.” In other words, you can become so attached to your smartphone that it basically becomes the most important thing in your life: “If you can’t live without a gadget … throw it away. If a gadget is absorbing most of your leisure time … throw it away!

“Life is too short. Let’s not invest what little time we have in meaningless endeavors.”

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ayoku777:
I get the drift, but that generalized mentality can lead to spiritual bondage - the mentality that power is just there, what you use it for is what makes it evil.

That will create the impression that there is nothing wrong with witchcraft or sorcery or divination, as long as you only use it for 'good works' like healing the sick and making someone rich or giving someone a job. Or that witchcraft is only bad if you kill people with, or sorcery is only evil if you cause barreness with it -otherwise it is good or can be good.

That is ABSOLUTELY not true. Good and evil is not just determined or defined by the act, but also by the spirit behind the act.

Any supernatural act not performed by the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus and for the glory of the Father is NOT GOOD -no matter the 'good' done with it. It is done by devil or by familiar spirits, or by a spirit other than the Holy Spirit, so its evil.

If you want to know supernatural acts done or performed by the Holy Spirit:

1: It will be done in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Not any other name, whether Beelzebub or Ogun or Krishna.

2: It will glorify Jesus and draw attention to Him, not to any other spirit or person -not even the person performing the act.

3: The fruit of the act will also lead men to Christ and to Christ-likeness and His kingdom.

This is how to know acts done by God and in the power of God, and not the power of the enemy.

So if someone heals your cancer in the name of Beelzebub, or gives you a job in the name of Krishna, or any other name that is not the name of Jesus, that healing or prosperity is not good. It is evil and you're in bondage.

So Magic, sorcery, witchcraft, divination, soothsaying is bad and can never be good; not just on the basis of whether you did evil with it, but because it is done by any spirit other than the Holy Spirit.

So creative power is not just hanging there, neutral to all its creations and what you do with it is what makes you good or evil. NO! Emphatically NO!

Jesus is the ONLY WAY to the Father, the one true God. So any supernatural act not done in His name (Jesus) is not the power of God, -it is the power of the enemy. And such leads to bondage

ayoku777:
You're right in a sense, because God created the Devil, so the Devil in a sense owes his power and "supernatural-ness" to God.

Even so, as it stands, that power is still the power of the Devil and you can't credit whatever the Devil does with it as acts of God.

That is why Jesus equally called it "the power of the enemy"

Luke 10v19 -Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all THE POWER OF THE ENEMY: and nothjing shall any means hurt you.

And what the Devil does with his power are credited to him and regarded as done by him.

1Samuel 28v8 -And Saul disguised himself.... and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me BY THE FAMILIAR SPIRIT, and bring me up, whom I shall name unto thee.

Acts 10v38 -How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were OPPRESSED OF THE DEVIL; for God was with him

Acts 8v9 -But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city USED SORCERY AND BEWITCHED THE PEOPLE of samaria.

All these are not "ACTS OF GOD" or done by "God's power" per se. They were done by "THE POWER OF THE ENEMY"

But I get what you mean

ayoku777:
As christians the word of God is our authority. We just don't form opinion or doctrine out of thin air. The written scriptures is the foundation upon which we form doctrine, and the cornerstone upon which we build doctrine.

In the scriptures; miracle and magic are both used to refer to supernatural acts. But while miracle can be used to refer to supernatural acts performed by either God or the devil; magic on the other hand is never used to refer to acts done by God, only those done by familiar spirits.

In scriptural sense, you can say, Magic are miracles performed with the power of the devil or familiar spirits.

The most common classifications in scripture are miracles or magic, signs or sorcery, wonders or witchcraft. Both classifications are supernatural acts, but the latter refer only to those done with the power of devils and familiar spirit. Don't forget the devil is also a spirit and a supernatural being.

So its right to say (by scriptural standards) that both God and Devil can work miracles but God can't be referred to as a magician, acts done by Him are never classified as magic in scripture.

ayoku777:
As christians the word of God is our authority. We just don't form opinion or doctrine out of thin air. The written scriptures is the foundation upon which we form doctrine, and the cornerstone upon which we build doctrine.

In the scriptures; miracle and magic are both used to refer to supernatural acts. But while miracle can be used to refer to supernatural acts performed by either God or the devil; magic on the other hand is never used to refer to acts done by God, only those done by familiar spirits.

In scriptural sense, you can say, Magic are miracles performed with the power of the devil or familiar spirits.

The most common classifications in scripture are miracles or magic, signs or sorcery, wonders or witchcraft. Both classifications are supernatural acts, but the latter refer only to those done with the power of devils and familiar spirit. Don't forget the devil is also a spirit and a supernatural being.

So its right to say (by scriptural standards) that both God and Devil can work miracles but God can't be referred to as a magician, acts done by Him are never classified as magic in scripture.

pesty100:
Faith and air are two different things with no similarities



Yah



Its funny how people believe without proof



Einstein had a dream which he held on to and not faith. They are two different things


By the equation above we can say
-Work=Result-faith
Result=-faith+work
Which is also
Result=work-faith

All in all faith is just a minus in the equation.

timmy2409:
Also consider this set of expressions:

Faith + Works = Results
Works - Faith = Results
Faith - Works = FAIL

Why do you think this is so?

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People in the Western World
need to know what’s
happening here in West Africa.
THEY ARE LYING!!! “Ebola” as a
virus does NOT Exist and is
NOT “Spread”. The Red Cross
has brought a disease to 4
specific countries for 4 specific
reasons and it is only
contracted by those who
receive treatments and
injections from the Red Cross.
That is why Liberians and
Nigerians have begun kicking
the Red Cross out of their
countries and reporting in the
news the truth. Now bear with
me:
REASONS:

Most people jump to “depopulation” which
is no doubt always on the mind of the West
when it comes to Africa. But I assure you
Africa can NEVER be depopulated by killing
160 people a day when thousands are born
per day. So the real reasons are much more
tangible.

Reason 1:
This vaccine implemented
sickness being “called” Ebola was
introduced into West Africa for the end goal
of getting troops on the ground in Nigeria,
Liberia, and Sierra Leone. If you remember
America was just trying to get into Nigeria
for “Boko Haram” #BULLSHIT but that fell
apart when Nigerians started telling the
truth. There ARE NO GIRLS MISSING.
Global support fell through the floor, and a
new reason was needed to get troops into
Nigeria and steal the new oil reserves they
have discovered.

Reason 2:
Sierra Leone is the World’s
Largest Supplier of Diamonds. For the past
4 months they have been on strike, refusing
to provide diamonds due to horrible working
conditions and slave pay. The West will not
pay a fair wage for the resources because
the idea is to keep these people surviving
on rice bags and foreign aid so that they
remain a source of cheap slave labor
forever. A reason was also needed to get
troops on the ground in Sierra Leone to
force an end to the diamond miners strikes.
This is not the first time this has been
done. When miners refuse to work troops
are sent in and even if they have to kill and
replace them all, the only desire is to
get diamonds back flowing out of the
country.
Of course to launch multiple campaigns to
invade these countries separately would be
way too fishy. But something like “Ebola”
allows access to an entire area
simultaneously…

Reason 3:
In addition to stealing Nigerian
oil, and forcing Sierra Leone back to
mining, troops have also been sent in to
FORCE vaccinations (Deadly “Ebola”
Poison) onto those Africans who are not
foolish enough to take them willingly.
3000 troops are being sent in to make sure
that this “poison” continues to spread,
because again it is only spread through
vaccination. As more and more news
articles are released as they have been in
Liberia, informing the populous of the US
lies and manipulation, more and more
Africans are refusing to visit the Red Cross.
Troops will force these vaccinations upon
the people to ensure the visible appearance
of an Ebola pandemic. In addition to this
they will protect the Red Cross from the
Liberians and Nigerians who have been
rightfully ejecting them from their countries.
Reason 4: Last but not least, the
APPEARANCE of this Ebola
“pandemic” (should Americans not catch
on) will be used to scare the countless
millions into taking an “Ebola vaccine”
which in reality is the pandemic. Already
they have started with stories of how it has
been brought to the U.S. and has appeared
in Dallas, how white doctors were cured but
black infected are not being allowed to be
treated, etc.

ALL that will do is make blacks STRIVE to
get the vaccine, because it appears that the
“cure” is being held back from blacks. They
will run out in droves to get it and then
there will be serious problems. With all we
have seen revealed about vaccines this year
you would think we learned our lesson. All I
can do is hope so, Because they rely on our
ignorance to complete their agendas.

Ask yourself: If Ebola really was spread
from person to person, instead of controlled
spread through vaccination – then WHY
would the CDC and the US Government
continue to allow flights in and out of these
countries with absolutely no regulation, Or
At All? We have got to start thinking and
sharing information globally because they
do not give the true perspective of the
people who live here in West Africa. They
are lying for their own benefit and there
aren’t enough voices out there with a
platform to help share our reality. Hundreds
of thousands have been killed, paralyzed
and disabled by these and other “new”
vaccines all over the world and we are
finally becoming aware of it. Now what will
we do with all this information?