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Buhari is a coup plotter who overthrew a democratic govt.
. . .Treason.

I guess Atiku wants to debate the "merits" of ethnic bigotry, sectionalism and political violence.

Idehn:
What kind of system do we have then?!?! You are saying it is the responsibility of leaders is to create a good society. However, in a democracy like Nigeria it is the responsibility of society to select/produce good leaders. If a society selects/produces nothing but bad leaders it is still ultimately its own responsibility for being/becoming a bad/worse society. I think it is time we stop trying to thoughtlessly impose these centralized political structures on large swaths of population. Even True Federalism is to centralized. Let individuals choose/organize what kind of social order they would like to live with. If they ultimately do not like it, they should be able to either choose another or try(if possible) opt out of one all together.

I do not believe in anarchy, which is what you seem to be proposing; it is too extreme. Society needs law and clear structures. The structures are to determine what a person requires to progress between status a and status b with the law in place as a safeguard.
However, in Nigeria even the most basic structures aren't in place. For example, what makes a person Nigerian and what are their guarantees as Nigerians? That question is unanswerable in practical terms, because (as in an anarchy) there is no clear line of responsibility of govt towards citizens. This can ultimately be traced to our over centralised unitary system where Abuja is responsible for putting out fires in the market and sending police after pickpockets at bus stops.

Our national architecture is the root of our problems. It can be fixed by making local authorities responsible for local decisions and issues. Abuja should be left to decide broad national policy, military and foreign affairs matters only.
For a society to function optimally, full citizen rights must also be guaranteed, municipal authorities (LG's) must each be responsible for their own survival (not getting beggar money from Abuja through their state govt). These things are standard practice in all functioning countries, but impossible in our current over centralised system.

Ownership of mineral bearing lands should be given to the people and taxes paid to LG's, who will pay to states, and in turn states will pay to Abuja. Power generation, policing, water supply etc should be left to the LG's. We need standard structures that enable citizens to both feel a sense of belonging and to reap rewards for creating.
You can check out what LG's and state equivalents do in places like the UK where the Greater London budget is 766,221,845,306 Naira (a figure several times the size of the entire Nigerian budget); http://static.london.gov.uk/gla/budget/docs/1011budget.pdf
London is a mere city, but it generates more money than the whole of Nigeria (oil and all), yet London is far from being the Worlds richest city. That sort of figure is generated by having proper structures to harness society, something Nigeria lacks at every level; but instead of rectifying our poor national architecture, we are still plagued with primitive arguments such as "zoning" the Presidency. Its a shame.

Atiku’s politics of entitlement
Viewpoints Dec 27, 2010

[b]THE reported events of Thursday November 16, 2010, highlighted what Nigerians knew all along. For starters, a group known as Coalition of Atiku Northern Supporters (CANSU) who are staunch supporters of the former Vice-President, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, was reported to have issued a statement.

In their statement, they alluded to the fact that crisis would engulf Nigeria if Atiku who is the candidate for the North did not get the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) nomination. They stated that the crisis they would cause would be much greater in proportion to the Boko Haram massacres! In their own words:

“This is no threat. Boko Haram will be a child’s play compared to the actions our members can take. We have been patient enough. And enough, they said is enough. The presidency is our right. The fact that we bowed to allow a Southerner, Chief Obasanjo, who has now turned to be a betrayer and a disgrace to us, to become president in 1999 does not mean we do not know what to do to reclaim our right. We are happy that Turaki has now seen reason with us that what Nigeria needs is a violent change and not a peaceful one.

“We wish to state equivocally, without any ambiguity, that we, the Atiku supporters, are prepared for any eventuality should our patron be refused the ticket he has worked for. Our position remains: Atiku Presidency ‘Za mu iso waje ko wace irin hali’ (We will get there by whatever means) may Allah, the Almighty not CANSU, cancel Nigeria…”.

When the above statement was made, I was thinking that they were bunch of fanatics who were getting restive that their candidate was about to lose the nomination and so resorted to threat to intimidate the country. However, to my greatest surprise, the former Vice President, Atiku Abubakar, not only endorsed their statement but also rationalized it! In a statement by his Campaign Organization, he quoted the late President John F. Kennedy saying: “Those who make peaceful resolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable”.[/b]

Instead of the former president disowning the group’s statement, he poured fuel into the already volatile situation. It could now be seen that the group is being sponsored by Atiku himself. That little bird dancing fearlessly in the street has a drummer by the bush side urging it on.

It is most unfortunate that the person aspiring to lead the country would sanction violence to achieve his selfish ambition of being president. In my place, we have a proverb which says that it is when the wind blows that we see everything hidden under the chicken’s ‘underwear’.

The nomination battle has exposed Atiku Abubakar for what he is. He believes that power belongs to the North and that they only leased it to the South and now wants to take back what belongs to them. To him and some people from the North that have same mentality, Nigeria is their birthright and only they could decide what they would do with it.

Whoever denies them of their birthright would be dealt with. To them it does not matter what any part of the country thinks, they owned Nigeria! This means, if you are from any other section from the country, or even other major ethnic groups, good luck to you. To him, the North holds the yam and the knife, whoever the North gives a piece of the yam would eat it.

Out of Nigeria’s 50 years of independence, the North has ruled for 38 years leaving the South with only 12 years. In fact, out of the 12 leaders Nigeria has produced since independence, the North accounted for nine! On the South’s side, Gen J.T.U. Aguiyi-Ironsi, Chief Ernest Shonekan and Olusegun Obasanjo shared the nine years among themselves. As John Adams would say: “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence”.

This is our history and they are indisputable. Many people from the North, including Atiku want to maintain that status quo. Left for Atiku, anyone else can go to hell! Where is Atiku’s sense of justice? He is touting justice and fair play as slogan without understanding what it means or so blinded by his ambition.

That arrogance and the air of entitlement is what the problem is. The North and even some people from the South believe that no one can smell any federal appointment let alone the presidency unless they lick the North’s behind. Most Northerners grew up with the same ‘born to rule’ mentality.

Do you blame them? Since they were born, every president had come from the North, whether military or civilian; so the attitude would be that it is theirs for the asking. So if anyone from the South becomes president, it would just be like the person is holding it in trust for them, or they just wanted to take a little break. Now that the shoe is on the other feet, it seems like the heavens is about to fall on top of the earth.

There is a wise saying: “Let the Chairman take the place of the Provost, so as to see what it feels like to be on your feet during meetings”. How about the South East and many ethnic minorities that have never tasted the presidency? Have they lost hope in the union called Nigeria? Of course, they are still alive even if their hope is wavering.

This reminds me of the event in the Holy Book, the Bible, where the Israelites were about to be delivered from Egypt. The heart of Pharoah and his servants were turned against his people and they said: “Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us”.

The action of Atiku and some of his Northern supporters reminds me also of the actions of the supporters of Senator John McCain

Mr. Chukwudi NWOKOYE writes from Maryland, USA.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/12/atikus-politics-of-entitlement/

Asking if Nigerians are better than the leaders is equivalent to asking if a child is better than their home. If the home is bad, do you blame the kids or do you blame the parents?
I'm afraid, the question asked by the OP is nonsensical (although thought provoking), it puts the cart before the horse. All Nigerias societal problems stem from our national architecture, which is unitary (and suited only to tiny homogenous countries), but which we decieve ourselves is federal. We will solve all our problems with the insitution of true federalism, which will translate to equity and true representation. Unjust systems create bad citizens and bad citizens make bad leaders.

appletango:
just about everything you say constitutes rumour mongering. just look at you signature.

fool

Of course, you are rumour mongers and thief worshippers.
There are too many dunces in the Atiku camp. What can be done to help these people?

[size=14pt]Atiku is a THIEF![/size]

[size=14pt]Bodies litter Jos streets[/size]
Yusuf Alli, Abuja and Yusufu Aminu Idegu, Jos 27/12/2010 00:29:00

JOS was still burning yesterday. Houses were on fire and youths launched a free-for-all. Bodies littered the streets.

The government was scrambling to restore peace, following last Friday’s explosions in the Plateau State capital.

The city was shut down. Streets were deserted. Businesses remained closed.

Agwa Rukuba, Tina, Dogon Dutse, Rikkos, Gadabiu, Abattoir and Dogon Karfe were strewn with bodies.

Youths went on the rampage, frustrating Christmas Day church services. As early as 6am, they mounted road blocks on major highways.

They set fire to some houses, especially in Angwa Rukuba and Dogon Dutse, where most Jos indigenes live.

Rikkos village also exploded in violence, which spread to Abattoir and Dogon-Karfe, where youths engaged one another in a fight.

At Abattoir, some worship houses were torched.

Thirty-two people have been confirmed dead and 74 injured on the Christmas Eve explosions.

Following the continuation of violence, Vice-President Namadi Sambo cancelled his visit to the city to inspect the scene of the violence.

Sources said Sambo was advised to suspend the visit, until the security agencies contain the violence.

Three suspects allegedly involved in the bombings were yesterday arrested by the Joint Task Force, which launched a manhunt for the masterminds of the explosions.

The Commander of the JTF, Brigadier-General Hassan Umar, told our correspondent on the telephone that the suspects were handed over to the Police because "it is the duty of the police to investigate the suspects".

"I’m at the forefront with my men to restore normalcy. While we arrested two people in the first batch, we picked up another suspect in the second batch," Gen. Umar said.

Security agencies were meeting last night on how to unravel the masterminds of the explosions.

A top source said: "We are analysing all clues made available to us. But we are certainly determined to get to the roots of these explosions.

"The methods adopted were sophisticated and these underscored the fact that we must unmask the masterminds. We have to get the perpetrators and their sponsors.

"They also changed their tactics by hiding under the cover of the night to perpetrate the dastardly acts.

"We may involve the locals in trailing some of the suspects."

Bomb experts from Abuja have gone to Jos to team up with their colleagues for further investigation. "All the security agencies are involved; it is not an investigation we can leave to the police.

"Our immediate challenges are to check the threat of reprisals from all aggrieved groups; restore normalcy; and put in place preventive measures to avoid a repeat of the violence."

http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/22940.html

ndu_chucks:
Your name calling is not enough to dodge the issue.

Do you, as a progressive Nigerian (now quite doubtful), find it dispicable that a campaign organization would put together a roadmap for rigging the upcoming presidential election, as revealed by the documents in question?  Do you have the capability to be honest enough to say that whoever is responsible for the production of these documents does not deserve your vote?

Most people have come to expect what your answer to the questions above would be, since your uncle GEJ is at the center of this affair. Olodo 
The issue here is not your perception of my personality, the issue is about these documents which spell out GEJ's roadmap to rigging the upcoming election. Be a man, and address the issue, no name calling or bashing of SR. No curse words or abuses please, they will ban your new username agaian, if you stubbornly continue to insult people at will.

If you had to go to court and required evidence, do you think that download will stand, or will you be laughed out? Even in a village elder setting, do you think that download will count as reasonable evidence or as rumour?
The rest of your post is sentiment, I am not trying to percieve your personality, but am simply pointing out where you have stood up to be counted. Do you now wish to add "supporter of rumour mongering" to that sad list as well?

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☻ajali☺:
It is not Nigeria but the manner how the government of the passt decades has done, respectiely has not done its duty.

Do you want to tell that Jos is representative for whole Nigeria?

The sort of govt we get is based on the architecture of our union and our abberation of federalism. No?
Madam, you are chasing mere symptoms, the real problem is in the nature of the union.

GAR3TH:
if you believe nigeria has not changed then i'm sorry, but the fact is nigeria of today is better than the nigeria of 1960. you can argue blindly about   the facts, data, reports and first hand experience about it. yes nigeria is no wonder land, but it has improved as is still improving. and to say that i'm the one who cann't face the truth is just ignorance. since anyone can easliy obtain the information that nigeria is improving.

the only reason why this thread was created was because the op is brainwashed by islamophobia and the natural lust that Nigerians have for bad news. i've been on nairaland long enough to witness that every time something bad happens in nigeria some one always create one of these silly splitting thread. go look in the nairaland archives and you'll see lots of these. but every time good news is posted about nigeria nobody response to the post. they all turn a blind eye, same with islamophobia. when christians attack muslims no body post and every one turns a blind eye, but when muslims attack it becomes a hot topic.

In what ways is Nigeria of today better than Nigeria of the 60's?
In the 60's, it was possible for Igbo's to win seats in Yoruba land and and Northerners to win seats in Igbo land. I'm curious, tell me how today's Nigeria is better, cos all others have witnessed the slow crumbling of a horrible and unworkable foundation. Things have gradually worsened over the years and the foreign investments and growth you talk about are only coming on the back of oil, which is a thing we don't manufacture or even know how to drill.

GAR3TH:
you guys can keep talking. . .but can anyone give me one good reason why nigeria should split?

. . .Funny question. I'll reply with another:
Have you heard of any country that is not at war, but several thousand lives are lost to religious conflict on an annual basis?

For every seemingly sensible reply you give to the above, I'll ask two deep questions. Deal?

So you can post in normal size font? Wonders!
There was no need to post in bold either, cos we can all see clearly enough to use the site.

Scrolling text is client side code, so the simple answer is, go to http://www.samisite.com/test-csb2nf/id73.htm and save the page as HTML. Voila! You'll have the full sources to peep at and hack off to your site.

PS; I don't need a recharge, thanks for the offer.

ndu_chucks:
@Beaf, the above post confirms that you've completely gone mad. I am not a supporter of the PDP or any of its candidates. Your attempt to sweep my observations about you and your sycophancy, under the carpet, is a waste of time. Why don't you address my points directly? What does my post have to do with Atiku or his supporters?     

Oh! I call Atiku a thief and suddenly your pained support for zoning and (all Atiku stands for) dries up? Your views are 100% sectional and ethnically bigoted. Please attempt to tick any of the below that you think doesn't apply to you. After you have failed, you may dust yourself and slink off into the night:

Ethnic bigotry. . . Grunt!
Sectional bigotry. . . Grunt!
Unbridled grand theft. . . Grunt!
Unabashed corruption. . . Grunt!
Planlessness. . . Grunt!
Wickedness. . . Grunt!
Senselessness. . . Grunt!

. . .And of course, Northern hegemony, violence, forged documents and articles.

ndu_chucks:
And more intellectually honest people will be more concerned about the fact that the document exists and not how the document was obtained.

Shame on you Beaf, you continue to disappoint us with your blind support for the PDP and its leader GEJ, simply because of GEJ's state of origin and ethnicity.

Seasons greetings to Atiku people!
You are followers of a mega thief and thats exactly what that document points out. Atiku is a hero of grand theft and corruption, I really feel pity for his supporters, you are truly lost people.

I believe it takes a bottom feeding mind to read that document and think there's joy for Atiku's exposed thieving ways in it, but then, Atiku supporters are a "special" breed. You could suck the brains out of their heads and it wouldn't make a difference, cos all they stand for are the most primevial aspects of neanderthal beliefs, best expressed in grunts:

Ethnic bigotry. . . Grunt!
Sectional bigotry. . . Grunt!
Unbridled grand theft. . . Grunt!
Unabashed corruption. . . Grunt!
Planlessness. . . Grunt!
Wickedness. . . Grunt!
Senselessness. . . Grunt!

For normal, hardworking, long suffering Nigerians though, doctors recommend that you avoid thieves!

[size=14pt]Atiku was caught laundering a stolen[/size] [size=33pt]40 BILLION in one instance!!![/size] [size=14pt]. . .By US Senators!!![/size]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/360110_thief_jpg03fa410e988f7d5957843ec1511da5af

blacksta:
Dont mind the sycophants -

beaf will the first person to use SR as valid link if it were against atiku - I know cause he has done it a number of times.

All hail worshippers of the thief god, Atiku!
What can be expected of a thief and the worshippers of theft, but forgeries and re-engineered documents?

Thieves have little shame or morals, they go about forging docs and ra.ping the truth.

Shame!

9ijaMan:
If SRs report is against Atiku, then its definitely true abi? But when GEJ is at the receiving end, the story becomes suspect!
I can't stop laughing o!

Hmmmmmmmm. More intelligent folk are of the opinion that Sahara Reporters got the said document from Atiku's people, cos Sahara Reporters have made that fact clear. No?

olas2u:
Do you know how the guy in running the site?

Likely by "political patronage." SR is useless,

rasputinn:
Nobody should trivialise the cogent reason for which Atiku should really be in the slammer.There's at least 3 reasons why he should be in jail either here in Nigeria or in the US of A and not for any zoning shiit

Preach bro!
We cannot continue throwing up the dregs of our uncivilised cesspits as rulers and champions. A thief like Atiku should be serving time, not running for office.

A concerned Nigerian citizen, Mr Paul Abbey, has fired a letter to the Attorney-General of the Federation and the Inspector-General of Police demanding the prosecution of Atiku and all those pushing for zoning, saying they have breached Section 102 of the Electoral Act.

Section 102 of the Act states: “Any candidate, person or association who engage in campaigning or broadcasting based on religious, tribal or sectional bias for the purpose of promoting or opposing a particular political party or the election of a particular candidate commits an offence under this Act and is liable on conviction to a maximum fine of N100,000 or imprisonment for twelve months or both.”

. . .Now, that's one hell of a clanger!
Damn! Jail all ethnic bigots and throw away the bloody key!

saint1983:
I am ivorian and there something that people here don't know. In 2002 the war start at the north of Ivory Coast so many people fled the north to the south at the north there are no business opportunities so there many people living in the south of Ivory Coast. since 2002 the entire north of Ivory Coast is control by Alassane Ouattara and his rebellion. why there are problem here and 2 présidents. during the vote we all notice in ivory coast that the number of people subscribed to vote are less than the number of the people who voted for Outtara, and some cities in the north the number of vote for Alassane Ouattara are more than the people who live in these cities and rebels at the north force people to vote for Alassane. the UE notice that and made a declaration about it, so somevote have been canceled by the suprem cour of ivory coast who is the one who can say who is the winner and who is not and his decision is final is how law we have to respect it. that why the ivorien suprem cour has declare Gbagbo the winner and the UN declare Alassane Ouattara the winner at the hotel call "Golf hotel". Actually ivorian people don't mind Alassane Ouattara because he lost accounting how law, people are working that prove that there are no many people who support Alassane Ouattara in Ivory Coast that why Gbagbo is still there and that why Alassane Ouattara want CEDEAO force to come to Ivory Coast to make War to remove Gbagbo. but africans have to be aware that this issue can be resolve peacefully CEDEAO got 15 countries and in Ivory Coast live more than 800 000 of nigerian and 2 000 000 of burkinabé (Ivory coast has 26% of foreign people from west Africa) so force will put the west community in war because how law put Gbagbo as president final we can't do anything about it our army are clear they will fight untill the CEDEAO kill all of us. beacuse the ivorian army got more than 50 000 troops ready to fight and 3 000 000 of people ready to help them so I want you to see the picture.

Something your have to know:
Alassane Outtara is not Ivorian for peace, the Ivorian Suprem Court alowed him to be candidats so that his troops will trop guns
Alassane Ouattara is not Muslin he is Buddhist
It is not who is the winner or who is not the matter is that Laurent Gbagbo don't obei to France
In Ivory Coast the agreement between Houphouet Boigney and the france gouvernement is that : the Ivory Coast must do business only with France in 2000 when Gbogbo came to power he decided to do business with other countries (china, russian, Brézil, south Africa, a 50 % 50% business).
In 2002 A rebellion came via Burkina Faso and take the north of the country and ask Gbagbo to live the power. so the president Gbagbo ask Chaque Chirac to help him to fight the rebellion and he refused because for him it is an ivorian affaire the Nigerian gouvernment throught Obasanjo decided to help Gbagbo but the france people called Obasanjo and nothing happen so during 8 years for peace Gbagbo shared his gouvernement with all the opposition political parties members and some members of rebellion (the rebellion cause the death of 5 000 people the entire international community didn't talk about it). how matter the end of the election the France Gouvernement has choose before the begining of the election Alassane Ouattara so they won't give up.

This crisis can be resolve peacefully between ivorian any force will be replicated because Angola is ready to Help Ivory Coast if Ivory Coast is Attacked. what happen in ivory coast must be solve buy Ivorian. the two part were ready to talk and find a solution but when CEDEAO said they will use force now all discutions is other.
The solution was to share the gouvernement or to make a new vote so the entire community will see but Alassane Ouattara refuse because he know that he won't because all ivorian people know that Alassane Ouattara is here for the france gouvenment interest.
we can even use our law to force Gbagbo to live but Africans what they know is muscle not head

may the god protect Africa!

Some of you will continue to talk stupidly and without an iota of shame. It is a disgrace that Black people from the same country can institute apartheid on themselves. You fools would make Hitler proud. Pack of barbarians!

I pray that your country is invaded as soon as possible by ECOWAS military forces to wipe out the last traces of "Ivority" introduced by the dead Konan Bedie an carried on by the various madmen that have ruled you ever since.

You people have been terrorising your own people, claiming that Northern Ivorians are foreigners. Lets see how your twopenny bully army stands up to the military might of countries like Nigeria. It will pay you to check out what a single ship like NNS Aradu can do to you from the sea.
You keep going to war over your apartheid policies? We will sort out your disgraceful behaviour. Fools.

alj harem1:
in fact!!! the so called nigerdelta can not even agree with itsekiri people,,,,they are always fighting
and itsekiri joined afenifere which is a yoruba group so what domination are you talking about

is itsekiri not a minority group just like ijaws and others but yet they joined a majority just like kanuris joined arewa

why can't ijaws join ohaneze or any other group

look there will never be a Nigerdelta country,,,,,that is the reality on ground

a country of ijaws as the so called northerners itsekiri as the yorubas and other minority is in now in nigeria,,,,,,does that even make sense when it is going to be a mini nigeria

You concern yourself so much with the Niger Delta, yet there are[size=14pt] 10 million alimajiri's[/size] in your part of the World. Not just that, but religious terrorist activities, even on Christmas day; plus all sorts of backwardness and wretchedness.
Why bother yourself with people whose lot is far better than yours, while your ship is sinking? Now, thats a real curiosity and the very definition of the word, FOOL!

^
Dude, you've always been a cross-breed between man and donkey, a truly daft person. I am not Ijaw.

I am really appalled at the level of political ignorance by some of our brothers from the SW (dayokanu, lagbaja etc). For some strange reason, they feel that the old Midwest (or parts of it) will find their way into Oduduwa. The very same Midwest that bolted from the SW?
We do not appreciate any form of overbearing dominance by any large ethnic group that has not grasped the meaning of true federalism and imagines their population will equate to total political control. It is quite clear that some have no clue as to why todays Nigeria is failing; even though, God in his infinite wisdom has ensured that Nigeria is kept alive by the SS minorities, some are still too blind to see an equitable way out. Tribalism is for fools.

As for Udezue's partitioning of the Itsekiri with the Yoruba, it seems a physical impossibility, because there are vast Ijaw territories between the Itsekiri and the Yoruba. More than that however, is the fact that the problems between the Urhobo and Ijaw against the Itsekiri are easily resolvable (as evidenced by current Delta state politics); especially when it is realised that they were created when we were part of the Western region. Yes, the Warri problem was created by a tribalistic Western region leader (who like some from that region today, put population above equity). We won't be going back to the same old thing - the SS minorities aren't anybodies puns.

As to the way we will go in the event of a split, it would likely be a country made up of the old Midwest groups. Failing that, we would accept a confederation, if offered by Biafra. We would accept same from the SW, only we will never be part of a country called Oduduwa (names gotto go).

A state like Delta, whose people are politically savvy over and beyond what obtains in the rest of the country, will come to any negotiating table with very sophisticated arguments. The question is if others will be ready or able to cope.
Delta state is the only one in Nigeria to have been successfully led by someone from an ethnic minority; Uduaghan is Itsekiri, in a state whose majority population is Urhobo (followed by Igbo). Nigeria should be modelled on Delta state, we put the rest to shame.

lagbaja20:
I am not sure if I, or any other Yoruba, would be willing to deal with the Ibos,  but one thing though, Yorubas need the SS, just as how they need us. And I think any cooperation with the SS would be good for the Yoruba race, and vice-versa; after all, we have shared history and, to some extent, shared culture and interests

Stop it abeg!
You don't need us and we don't need you. Nobody needs anybody and everybody can survive on their own if need be, we need to be confident in our abilities to weather any storm.

By the way, what culture and history does the SW share with Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Bayelsa and 90% of Delta state?

I'm not saying there can't be synergy, but there certainly isn't a "need."

Musiwa,:
let me explain how bad it is with ethnics problem in nigeria, when some northern military order the genocide of the yorubas many years ago, i was in nigeria. they were shooting at random, they nearly kill me[b].[size=14pt] A bullet came directly at my brain[/size]. [/b] It miss like less than 1 feet, because someone call my attention because i moved my head.

Many yorubas were gun down , many, we dont know the numbers. They had military vehicle all over Yorubaland station for many years. This is how bad it is. We want out.

so anyone drawing the conclusion that the satellite pictures is not going to lead to a civil war is not been sincere with you. that person is a liar. And there are many liars like that in Nigeria.

[size=14pt]No wonder!!!![/size]

appletango:
Have you read it read? It reads like it's been written by beaf:

http://www.saharareporters.com/sites/default/files/uploads/Rigging_GEJ.pdf

I love the new "fresh face" of nigerian politics.

Seasons greetings to Atiku people!
You are followers of a mega thief and thats exactly what that document points out. Atiku is a hero of grand theft and corruption, I really feel pity for his supporters, they are truly lost people.

I believe it takes a bottom feeding mind to read that document and think there's joy for Atiku's exposed thieving ways in it, but then, Atiku supporters are a "special" breed. You could suck the brains out of their heads and it wouldn't make a difference, cos all they stand for are the most primevial aspects of neanderthal beliefs, best expressed in grunts:

Ethnic bigotry. . . Grunt!
Sectional bigotry. . . Grunt!
Unbridled grand theft. . . Grunt!
Unabashed corruption. . . Grunt!
Planlessness. . . Grunt!
Wickedness. . . Grunt!
Senselessness. . . Grunt!

For normal, hardworking, long suffering Nigerians though, doctors recommend that you avoid thieves!

[size=14pt]Atiku was caught laundering a stolen[/size] [size=33pt]40 BILLION in one instance!!![/size] [size=14pt]. . .By US Senators!!![/size]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/360110_thief_jpg03fa410e988f7d5957843ec1511da5af

The Ikorodu poll was a close run, but a shocker all the same.

Draw.
. . .And Man U matches on!

strangerf:
"Stewpid" is that supposed to be mandarin?

Make no mistake about it, I want one NL, but a NL where I will be a second class citizen is not the NL I want to participate in. All Nigerians must all be first class citizens on NL regardless of where we come from. This is the time to lay the foundation for such co-existence, without foreign interference. What is the purpose of being a Nigerian on NL, if I am being stupidly censored by a foreigner? But first we must sit together to discuss the nature of the NL foundation, devoid of outside influence. This is why we must have a talk, where the mighty and the low will sit together to determine how to dialogue on this cyberspace. I care not where the supermod comes from as long as he/she is Nigerian, and as long as  I can be treated with respect and all the good things of NL are made available to me

Obviously, She is not doing her job well, and that is why SEFAGO wants her job!

This is absolutely ridiculous.

You shouldn't care if the mod is from the Moon or Uzbekistan as long as they do a proper job.
Mukina has her faults and weaknesses, but being a Black person from anywhere in the Universe is a plus, being an African is another plus, having roots in West Africa is yet another, as is being Sierra Leonian. The overriding plus though, is if she is doing a good job.
Her origins have nothing to do with the job, lets stop brandishing bigotry as some sort of acceptable banner, it is disgusting and disgraceful.

Next thing will be to ask that all mods come from Seuns state, which in turn will only last as long as those from his village and compound allow. There's a thing called closed-mindedness that stunts possibilities for those it affects.

It is fools like you that use such derogatory terms. You can hardly hang two words together to make a coherent sentence, yet you wish to redefine words that have already been defined by your betters.

Dude, I lost any respect for you on the day you repeatedly posted that you would p.i.m.p your wife for papers abroad and not care who the father of your kids was. Now you want to add this deeply insulting thread to that.

Ikwikwikwi:
mosques in the south must be targeted as well, Aba we go first

That is exactly what the bombers wish you to do. The cabal will use the confusion to attempt to sieze power and smash through the South.
Let govt take the lead instead and we egg them on to use max violence.

May the souls of the departed rest in peace.

Everybody that has threatened violence in any form and those that have voiced plans to make the country ungovernable must be arrested.

[size=33pt]Enough is enough!!![/size]