Kiddogarcia:
I won't say you are wrong, but I've witnessed juju first hand,when you've witnessed it,we can have this discussion,na we be your best plug for everything sexual enhancement tho

baba you get any spiritual se*ual enhancement? I dey ask for OP

Uptownerd:


Lol. Na Kebbi State you dey hide. EFCC will soon come knocking. Even if you like hide in Kalgo or Zuru or Gwandu, Dakingari, Jega... Even in Birnin Kebbi.

ma guy! are you a northerner? Ashe kaima dan arewa ne

Uptownerd:


Reality is often disappointing bro. You said they're "real". That's a Statement of Fact.

If I ask you how did you know, you can never answer it because you don't know. 100% of the time, stories of these juju nonsense are hearsay. I can also bet my life that your source is hearsay or them say or my friend said . And again, remember where I specifically told you that people will always con you for your greed. Believing in such nonsense is selling yourself short. Just like women who for some reason think there is a juju to trap men. They end up spending money they don't have and dashing it to con artists masquerading as juju or dibia or spiritualist. Honestly, people have cheap brain and that's why con-men find it easy to think up scam formats to defraud them. All this thing's are simple psychology.

Facts are facts, it is not hidden. No matter how hard you want to believe a superstition, you will always come up short because you can't defend nonsense or what is illogical.

The olden days oracle's that allegedly brought fear and were revered by our ancestors were simply carted away and used as decorations in museum's across Europe or sold for some cool cash cuz they're fine carvings and Arts. Yet, this are the same people that brought you Christianity. You guys have to wise up bro.

You've successfully convinced yourself that these things don't exist only because you haven't seen them for yourself. You're a logical person and lucky for you, I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to come up with any evidence about the supernatural world, witchcraft etcetera that would meet scientific standards, repeatable, testable, that sort of thing nor can I logically demonstrate the supernatural or spirituality because I know you're very much capable of asking tricky questions, challenging my own logical abilities and sincerity

On our previous conversation on the other thread and this one, I honestly don't think I can convince you. I think you're a logical & scientific person who has decided if he can’t see it, can’t touch it, then it's not there. And that’s okay. We all have our own personal ideas. But I'll tell you what a friend used to say in cases like this; "If I am wrong, and I die and get to the supernatural world, I won’t know that I was wrong but If you are wrong, and you die and get there, you are going to be very surprised."

For people that need to see, hear and feel things before they believe, it's going to be extremely difficult to convince them. So I won't even bother trying to make you believe in something you are resisting.

It is that complicated.

Benki003:


Ur name says it all

this clap back no be here

You can't keep it to yourself?
Try dey drink water. It'll help u swallow your envy easily.
You're following her and you're complaining of being tired of seeing her pictures? Are you sure you're not a witch like this? Why u no just kuku unfollow her and the entire DMW crew? Plus unfollow anybody following them. It'll help your blood pressure.
What do we think? You know already na. U self check comments. U go see say u be ugly and malicious old woman wey no fit mind her business.

Uptownerd my very intelligent friend from the other thread. You fail to understand that because you don't believe in something or can not scientifically prove something doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist.
Juju, sorcery, jaz etcetera they are all very real my friend.
In the northern part of Nigeria, there's something known as Rufa ido
You'll literally see (or not see) what people want you to.
My guy whether you believe in these things or not, I hope you don't fall a victim someday.

Aurelius1:
Buffaloes are highly prone to Bovine Tuberculosis which can affect humans. So eating buffalo meat is like going raw on an olosho.

and those lions ate it raw! You mean they now have STD pro max?

post=105489727:

Nope, what we grill are ALL on our siggy.
Barbecue is life mehn!

Do we have people that eat Buffalo meat?
If so, how does it tastes
#Curious

It must taste like beef I guess but a bit better because na bush meat and bush meat no be here

Uptownerd:


Christianity and Islam start from when you are a child and defenseless to indoctrination and dogma's to tell you about a God. What can you do? You will probably believe because you don't know any better. Then you grow up with that mindset of a sky daddy with his host of Angels who are somewhere looking over you.

Having made sure to indoctrinate the child with religious stories and practices, the child grows up thinking is real and lives his life justifying every decision he makes around whether it pleases a God or not. He will discountenance common sense in defense of the God seed planted in him as a child. Then, he starts praying to this imaginary mental construct he has been made to believe is real.

When things go well, the person praises the imaginary construct. When things go bad, they blame a Satan or agree it is the will of the imaginary construct.

But, as an adult, do you believe Zeus is real? Yet, at some point in time, people actually did.

Stories of Israelites and their problems are used to tell of a Jewish God called Yahweh, and made out to be real.

But, when you actually take your time to read this stories, you realize they are côck and bull story of a weak tribe who were always at the receiving end of Foreign superior powers and their conquering spree. All the stories of Yahweh using his power to rescue Israelites are nothing but slaves consoling themselves and hoping that a power somewhere will rescue them from captivity. Today, Israelites have grown to develop actual weapons and high tech to deal with anyone who messes with them.

However, the repackaged fake version of their history is sold to Africans and they have swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Will a European or American person or Chinese believe you if you told them that Amadioha was sent by a God to save mankind? They will need proof, and telling them your ancestors told you guys about Amadioha and his glory is going to make you look pathetic and a joke.

Here is what you can do to enlighten yourself more:

1) If you have not read the Bible before, try reading it today. The people telling you that you need to be in a silly spirit to understand the words are also victims of the same indoctrination and do not know what they're saying.

2) Stop acknowledging the mental construct (Yahweh, Jesus or whatever) in your mind. They are not real, they are real in your mind only.

3) Tell yourself that you are stûpid for believing in the côck and bull stories in the Bible or the texts of the other religious copycats. This works like magic and goes direct to your ID self.

4) Acknowledge that prayers are meaningless and will never ever change anything irrespective of whether you think they did or not.

5) Religion is an addiction, and has more addicting substance than Cocaine, Morphine and Heroin put together. I'm sure you already know that an addict doesn't know the dangers of their own addiction until it is probably too late. Can you distance yourself from religion for a week?

Trust me, you probably can't do this if you are addicted to religion. That's how to test your level of addiction to the faith.

Like other forms of addictions, suddenly withdrawal from your church or Religion has real psychological impact. But, like other addictions, the more you stay away from it, the better you will be for it in the long run. But, you have to start small. Start by reading the fake creation story in Genesis. Compare it with stories of religions that are older than the Abrahamic religions. Then compare it with the one of your tribe/race/ethnic group.

Wow! That was impressive I must say. I like how your points are brilliantly articulated.
Like you, I'll also try not to bore you with scriptural verses but to reason rationally through induction and deduction from data (evidence, signs, indications) obtained withing specific/given parameters. I wouldn't say I hope you "believe" in science because that'll make you a believer and it'll mean you have adopted a philosophical position (scientism) that cannot be verified, or falsified, by science itself. So I'll just hope that you trusts the expertise and integrity of cognition.

Both science and common sense attest to the causality principle which states that "all real events necessarily have a cause. The principle indicates the existence of a logical relationship between two events, the cause and the effect, and an order between them: the cause always precedes the effect". Again, I hope you trust this to be true.

If so, I'll like you to relate the causality principle to procreation and then the simple induction/deduction will come in handy. I want to believe you already get the point I'm driving at.
Science can not explain the existence of a phenomenon without it's origin (causality). That being said, how can you explain the existence of man (the first man) without turning to religious scriptures for answers?

Science isn't the only source of human knowledge my friend. And once you accept that science is the only source of human knowledge, you're again adopting a philosophical position that cannot be verified, or falsified by science.

Uptownerd:

Unfortunately, the opinions of slaves never matter.

Someone is showing you how religion was used to enslave you and milk your resources dry, and the best thing you could do is find a way to try to point out a good thing about the evil act?

You are a lost slave. The mental slavery propagated by the slave masters has eaten deep into your mentality, you don't even know how silly you sound.

Don't you guys understand that there is nothing about Religion that is real?

Tufiakwa!!!

No I don't. Please, enlighten me.

I think this thread is about to be fun. Waiting...

I just dey wonder wetin criminal go tell God

SunshineHQ:
and what about all the time and energy wasted when u can channel it to other things? they have u where they want u

channel it to what other things exactly? practicing a religion doesn't stop you from being your best self. It isn't a waste of time at all. It improves you generally as a person. As a believer, I see it as a win win.
Have me where they want me? Nope. I'm right where I want to be.

Uptownerd:

Slave who doesn't know he is a slave.

You think I'm a slave and I think you're lost. We both have our different opinions of one another.

effort1:


Is violence and murder against Islam teachings?

Doesn't Islam teach violence?

Yes sir. Violence and murder is against the teachings of Islam.
No. Islam doesn' t teach violence.

[quote author=Zooposki post=105472975][/quote]what I said is a gift. Whether you like it or not, you must collect! in fact you don already collect

SmartPolician:
Muslims should speak for themselves and I will write as a Christian. You see, we must make efforts to separate Christianity (as a religion) and the way people practice it. Just like most things, Nigerians bastardized Christianity (both Pentecostal and Orthodox churches), making some of us ashamed of what fellow Christians do.

By design, a Christian is a Christ-like person, meaning that you must have good morals. However, what we have in Nigeria today is outright hypocrisy, where people pretend to exhibit Christ-like virtues only in churches and during church activities.

However, in their everyday life, you realize that they are monsters. They kill, steal, rape, fornicate and do all sorts of things Christ condemned in the Bible. While we are all sinners, the part I find shocking is glorying sins or making it look like a norm.

Therefore, Christianity preaches leading a good lifestyle and respecting the laws of the lands. In other words, the religion does not in any way impede development in Africa or anywhere else it is practiced. If a people who claim to be devout Christians don't develop their local communities and show love to their neighbors, please we don't blame Christianity for the failings of those people.

Instead, those people have to reexamine the way they practice the faith. This is the same problem with Nigeria and several countries that claim to be religious but are not God-fearing. While this post has focused mainly on Nigeria, I cannot exonerate the white man. The White men who brought us Christianity are no exception because we need to separate the message from the messenger, if we feel something is wrong with the messenger. If someone who brought you a message does not practice what he preaches, you don't blame the message. Instead, you blame the messenger for not practicing what they preach. We all have to keep this at the back of our minds.

Brilliantly said brother. I'm not a Christian but I believe you've spoken the truth. I'll like to add that while we shouldn't blame Christianity for the failings of a few Christians who probably do not understand Christianity or are involved in things that aren't Christ-like, we should equally not blame Islam or any other religion at all for the things some of the followers do that are against their religious teachings.

Everything religion teaches boils down to securing a better place in the afterlife and whether we believe in it or not, we're all going to die. Every religion attest to this. This life is a journey not a destination. Think of it this way, you are about to travel from point A to B and you have no idea what point B looks like but you've been hearing stories of how extremely cold it is at point B, wouldn't it be wise to travel with a jacket? I mean if it's cold, then fine. You have something to keep you warm and if it's not, then you lose nothing.
Call it slavery, call it delusional, call it anything but it's better to hold on to your religion and find out it isn't needed in the afterlife than to live & die in disbelief only to be filled with regrets in the afterlife.

Shukushaka:
I was shot multiple times in my dream last night by a police man but it didn't penetrate,I even went to the police station to complain about being shot for no reason. I no even understand the dream. I'm not a cultist and I left school since 2015 and no cultist activities or police brutality around where I live. I no just Understand.

Ask pastor Righteousness2

So the guy is not selina tested?

Danjikanbauchi:
shut up he is not your bro anything. Na my bro

Congrats on your bro bro

VanuatuWycombe:


He cannot be captured by the US tax net for now because he is like an undocumented immigrant since his name is not in their Labour database. So he will spend is $400 to improve himself while squatting somewhere. I am sure when his name is mentioned as an outstanding Nigerian in some years to come, you would be part of those that would be proud of him being a Nigerian.

Nigeria is DAAB (Dead And Awaiting Burial).
So if you are given one day visa, abeg use the opportunity o. The US is multi trillion dollar economy with over 500 million inhabitants. The opportunity is huge there than here.

For accommodation, if it’s Lagos, you can’t get a DECENT apartment at N150k even if it is a room self contained. A room sef con that is decent starts from 500k in Lagos mainland. There are even those that go for 700k. Quote me anywhere. I have firsthand info on them.

So you'd prefer squatting in the US to owning your own place here? Of course I'll celebrate an outstanding Nigerian but would you celebrate a criminal who is a Nigerian? Being broke and indebted in the US will only push one into criminal activities.
For accommodation, yes you can't get a decent one for 150k in some parts of Lagos but u can in many other parts of the country but in US how far? Can you? You can but it's definitely not for a year. And the type of houses you get for 500-700k in lag that you talked about will cost you more than double the amount in the US.

HardMirror:
hmmm. ok then. thanks for the info, but i still know pdp or apc, they are all thieves. the largest chunk of the money would be embezzled. why are they sharing money instead of using the mone to create industries that would feed people for decades. makes no economic sense to me though i know people would not think properly and only be happy they got money that would finish within a week

Misplaced priority. One of the 7 beneficiaries I know spent 8k the day he collected the 20k. He bought rice. Just rice in a nylon bag. Before, 8k would have gotten almost a bag of rice.
People are hungry! All these funds the government are giving out, if properly invested will have a better impact in the lives of the masses but they choose to do money illusions
But even if the government tries to invest it, the government will still loot the investment.

Either way, it's messed up. But it's less messed up when they share it like this. At least some people will be able to solve one or two problems that wouldn't have been problems if the government were upright.

The thing just get as e be.

HardMirror:
i never said i doubted you, i only said you would be a liar to deny you are in the north. only northerners are getting this fund. i practically shuttle between 3 states in the south west and i dont know a single person here that has gotten the funds, yet you know seven people onl in one village that got it. is it not obvious this government is partial?

I get your point and it's saddening. There are poor people in every part of the country that'll appreciate the token. The government needs to do better. Favouritism only promote disunity especially in a diverse country like ours.

MufasaLion:


Seems I've said it before that $400 is a peanut. And I doubt if that guy is going there through a legal way.

Exactly my point. With an additional 0 only! to the 400 dollars self, haba! With speed! Who no like better thing? I'm not allergic to enjoyment Bross

tnerro1:


Well, at least bandits, kidnappers or police no go collect the 400 dollars for my hand na

You funny I swear

MufasaLion:



At the first bolded, I wish are not in a such situation or being a family to a victim.

Dude, why must I be super rich to enjoy basic health care? Isn't that insane? Is that the type of life you choose to live? Even with your super riches you still wouldn't be able to get proper health-care in Nigeria.


Is your President not wealthy? Why must he always visit the UK for health-care? Do you know how many times he's spent in the UK since he became the president?

And do you think health-care is accessible in Nigeria?

I'm not disputing it sir. 9ja is pretty messed up at the moment but with the options the op gave, 400k here is better. You pay little or no tax unlike in the US. Plus you can't compare the cost of living. A decent apartment that'll cost 150-200k in a year here can cost more than 400 dollars in a month there. With a better job in the US, we wouldn't even be having this conversation... Everybody go move but the 400 dollars there against 400k naira here isn't it.

tnerro1:
Bros give me the visa, you can stay here, I promise to dey send you something every other month

Because you think you'll have anything left to save for yourself before even thinking of sending something? From 400 dollars?
Bross with 400 dollars for 9ja u be chairman but 4 Yankee, u no go even sit-down 4 bench where men gather, na 4 ground u go sit-down

MufasaLion:


Nope!

Recently, a son of Sen. Na'Allah was killed in his home. Bro, I'm sure you're aware that security in Nigeria is very worst and to even get justice it comes with a price.

Anybody can be killed in Nigeria at anytime compared to the US. Yes, gun violence is high in the States now but they still have a better security! Let's not even talk about health, education, technology etc.

I disagree. Yes, it's no news that security is bad in Nigeria now but in this case, it's about being rich in Nigeria or being far less comfortable in the US.
Like you said, gun violence is high over there and one can also get killed. Justice? Yeah it's good but what good is it to a dead person?
Health, education, technology etcetera can be enjoyed in the US from Nigeria if one is rich. Like seriously rich.

MufasaLion:


You will understand that money is not all you need in this country.

My brother, all you need in this country is more money

Limassol:
No fulltime employee earns that peanut in the US, infact, the minimum wage is nearly ×4 of that(though it depends on the state) .

What if op isn't promised full time employment? Except if he'll be shuffling two - three jobs with similar pay which is definitely going to be real stressful, 9ja is better off in his case. My guess is, the 400k job here is a 9-5. That pay should be enough to get something going for him on the sidelines and he can comfortably vacation in the US say once a year. If faced with similar options, I'm definitely taking the Nigerian job.

Ororo! Cut soap for super eagles na