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1Sharon:
Now you know. It is seen as heretic to tell Christians Jesus spoke as a baby.

So this is why blasphemy is subjective and we are all blasphemers according to one religion or another.

Now does any Christian society have blasphemy laws in place?

If someone mocks Mohammed that is blasphemy to YOU. but not to the mocker.

Your religious beliefs are special to YOU only.

You are the first person telling me this is offensive to the Christians. I have so many Christian friends and neighbours and we do have discussions like this and they've never mentioned anything that is even remotely close to finding this offensive. And you said you're not a Christian so tell me, is it really the Christians that finds it offensive or it's just you?
Jesus is indeed supernatural even according to the Bible. And we (Muslims) believe in the Quran completely. The Quran tells us that Jesus spoke as a baby and that's why we believe it. We didn't just come up with a story to defame Jesus. The Quran explains it as a miracle and we believe it to be the first miracle of Jesus so what's there to be offended about? His birth was miraculous and He performed many miracles. There is nothing blasphemous about saying he spoke as a baby because even the aim or motive for saying so it to show how special he is and not to smear him.

You said "we are all blasphemers according to one religion or another". I disagree with you. This is completely wrong. If you don't mind sharing, it'll help me to give you better examples that you can relate to if I know your religious beliefs.

Which type loud be this? Sapele or Warri?

Y'all still following this scores?

1Sharon:
Muslims believe that Jesus spoke as a baby. That right there is offensive to Christians because it implies a supernatural element about him.

okay I get it now. "Offensive because it implies a supernatural element about him": I never knew the Christians find this offensive. By the way, there's indeed a supernatural element about Jesus.
Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel".
His birth is supernatural. He was not conceived through mating unlike you and I and everyone else. I believe you'll agree with me that it is "supernatural" for a virgin to give birth to a child.

About him speaking as a baby, it is not explained in the Bible (at least none that I know of) but the Quran explains this in chapter 19.
Just imagine, Mary, mother of Jesus, in a very conservative and religious community. She is from a well known family. A daughter of a priest, and has spent most of her life in the Temple. This virtuous, saintly, unmarried woman arrives carrying her child, in front of people who knew her and her family very well. How can she prove her innocence? Would anyone believe her? What on earth is she going to do? She needed a miracle. Only a miracle could vindicate Mary in front of the people. She needed a miracle, and that is precisely what she got. A great miracle:
It was baby Jesus, still in the cradle, who spoke to the crowd, defending his mother, and vindicating her for ever, and dispelling any doubt about her purity.
This is how the whole scene is beautifully described in the Quran:

Quran 19 vs 16-35:
(19:16) (O Muhammad), recite in the Book the account of Mary, when she withdrew from her people to a place towards the east;
(19:17) and drew a curtain, screening herself from people whereupon We sent to her Our spirit and he appeared to her as a well-shaped man.
(19:18) Mary exclaimed: "I surely take refuge from you with the Most Compassionate Lord, if you are at all God-fearing."
(19:19) He said: "I am just a message-bearer of your Lord, I have come to grant you a most pure boy."
(19:20) Mary said: "How can a boy be born to me when no man has even touched me, nor have I ever been unchaste?"
(19:21) The angel said: "Thus shall it be. Your Lord says: 'It is easy for Me; and We shall do so in order to make him a Sign for mankind and a mercy from Us. This has been decreed.' "
(19:22) Then she conceived him and withdrew with him to a far-off place.
(19:23) Then the birth pangs drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree and she said: "Oh, would that I had died before this and had been all forgotten."
(19:24) Thereupon the angel below her cried out: "Grieve not, for your Lord has caused a stream of water to flow beneath you.
(19:25) Shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards yourself and fresh and ripe dates shall fall upon you.
(19:26) So eat and drink and cool your eyes; and if you see any person say to him: 'Verily I have vowed a fast to the Most Compassionate Lord, and so I shall not speak to anyone today.' "
(19:27) Then she came to her people, carrying her baby. They said: "O Mary! You have committed a monstrous thing.
(19:28) O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil man, nor was your mother an unchaste woman."
(19:29) Thereupon Mary pointed to the child. They exclaimed: "How can we speak to one who is in the cradle, a mere child?"
(19:30) The child cried out: "Verily I am Allah's servant. He has granted me the Book and has made me a Prophet
(19:31) and has blessed me wherever I might be and has enjoined upon me Prayer and Zakah (purifying alms) as long as I live;
(19:32) and has made me dutiful to my mother. He has not made me oppressive, nor bereft of God's blessings.
(19:33) Peace be upon me the day I was born and the day I will die, and the day I will be raised up alive."
(19:34) This is Jesus, the son of Mary; and this is the truth about him concerning which they are in doubt.
(19:35) It does not befit Allah to take for Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decrees a thing He only says: "Be" and it is.

This is the reason the Muslims believe Jesus spoke as a baby.

1Sharon:
Right. Something from the Qur'an that is offensive to Christians.

Muslims believe that Jesus as a spoke as baby. That right there is offensive to Christians because it implies a supernatural element about him.

And you Muslims don't like telling Christians that fact, why is that?

sorry I don't understand. Seems like a typo. Could you please rephrase?

1Sharon:
Can you listen to how dumb you sound? Are you now going to tell me it's not blasphemous for a Muslim to burn down a church because no where does the Bible say 'dont burn chruches' therefore keeping burning away??

I'm not debating whether Jesus is God with you, I couldn't care less. That's not what our argument is about. Our argument is how blasphemy is subjective. So why do Muslims have laws with harsh punishments for it. And this is evidence how Islam is not truly peaceful and tolerant. If you kill someone for blasphemy, you deserve to be killed too.

Your Muslim interpretation of the bible is irrelevant. Christians find it OFFENSIVE when you call Jesus a prophet period. because according to THEIR interpretation he is a GOD.

If Christians are to accept your muslim Interpretation of the bible. Are you willing to accept their CHRISTIAN Interpretation of the Qur'an or the hadith? You're a big hypocrite aren't you?

How did I know you Muslims find it blasphemous to mock Mohammed when I never went into the Qur'an? I'm going off the way you Muslims REACT and have LAWS about how to speak about him. That's how I bloody know!
You also need to go off the way Hindu Indians react to cows being eaten and killed to know they find it OFFENSIVE. And why the majority of them are vegetarian.

I'm fully aware of the violence in the Bible.
But is there an equivalence where Christian countries with Christian laws kill people in their society for blasphemy? As is done in the Islamic world?
How many Christian countries are killing apostates, blasphemers and homosexuals?

Back to my Initial premise. Muslims cannot say Islam is a religion of peace when apostasy and blasphemy laws exist.

Girl I'm utterly disappointed in you, to say the least. I was really expecting a reply with an evidence based approach with a cogent argument and references but no! You chose to gibber. You've just wasted my time. You missed the mark girl. You are obviously very far below my expectations.

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Tomahawk99:
Primitive display of wealth. Reason why most Africans especially Nigerians struggle to stay rich.
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Give MANNABBQGRILL just a fraction of that amount so he can stop roasting dead poultry birds and rotten meat.

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1Sharon:
Lol you must think you special.

I'll be back to reply your drivel later. You really thought you did something.

You make me laugh. You really do. Drivel? Girl please! This "drivel" right here is giving you a hard time. And you know I did something especially with the facts. Patiently waiting for you to reply and please don't disappoint me, come with something solid.
As always, I hope you have a lovely day. Peace be onto you.

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Could you please move this thread to front page already? Not because of the OP but because 1Sharon obviously needs help and because I need people with highly developed intellect to give answers to the questions I raised. Thank you.

1Sharon:
I already said I'm not a Christian.
'Science doesn't have to agree with everything'
Then your Qur'an isn't compatable with science as you claimed.


'Blasphemy as a right' Then you are not for free speech as you claimed.

As I explained before blasphemy is subjective and we are all blasphemers according to some religion.The person mocking Mohammed doesn't give a damn about him like you do. He is only a blasphemer according to you Muslims.

The same way you don't respect the cow like Hindus do. If someone is to die for mocking your prophet. You should have also been dead along time ago for eating beef. But thankfully no other religion is like Islam.

You're grasping at straws at this point.

My initial premise is that Islam is not a peaceful and tolerant religion if it kills people for leaving the faith, for being gay or for what they perceive as blasphemy. PERIOD.

I'll make it easier for you.
1. You're saying Muslims are blasphemous and I gave you proof why Muslims can never be blasphemous: Quran 6:108.

2. You said it is a blasphemy to a Christian for saying Jesus is not God and I also gave you proof from the Bible and Quran that says otherwise:
Mark 12:29
Romans 1:21-23
Romans 1:25
Quran 4:171

3. You said there's a concept for blasphemy in Hinduism but you failed to provide a proof from any scripture that says so.

4. On the punishment for blasphemy, I gave you proof of the Christian punishment (Death penalty): Leviticus 24:16. But you're already so engrossed in your hatred for Islam that you can't even understand that not only Islam permits death penalty for blasphemy. If you hate Islam for killing people for blasphemy you should hate Christianity too for Leviticus 24:16.

5. I again asked you what the Christians hold sacred that the Muslims disrespect but you again failed to mention anything but that didn't stop me from giving you an evidence why Muslims can't disrespect Jesus or Mary: Chapter 19 of the Quran, Surah Maryam. Just so you know, Jesus is one of the most mentioned people in the Quran by reference; 25 times by the name Isa, third-person 48 times, first-person 35 times and the rest as titles.

6. You said what the Bible considers as blasphemy is different from what Islam considers as blasphemy but you fail to tell me what it is that is considered as blasphemy according to the Bible.

7. You said and I quote "Do they (Christians) follow the Bible blindly or has Christianity been REFORMED?" and I pointed out to you that to "follow blindly" means to do something without thinking for yourself if what you're doing is right or wrong. Then I asked you if you're insinuating that the Bible contains something that is unethical and morally wrong but again, you couldn't answer.

8. You said Islam is not in conformity with science because science does not say horses can fly but you fail to refute the fact that world renowned scientists agree that almost everything, from relativity, quantum mechanics, Big Bang theory, black holes and pulsars, genetics, embryology, modern geology, thermodynamics, even the laser and hydrogen fuel cells, have been found in the Quran.
I also pointed out that if you say Islam is not in conformity with science just because horses don't fly then is Christianity in conformity with science for saying the same Jesus who "died" on the cross will be coming back to the world again?

You said I am grasping at straws but common sense says the reverse is the case.

It is your word against the scriptures and simple logic here.

Breakfast is served girl. You can give it up now. But in case you still don't comprehend and you're not convinced after all these facts presented to you, then I understand why and I don't blame you because the Quran says:
"Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness [so] they could not see.
Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path]".
Quran 2:17-18.
Cheers.

If I get money ehn...

1Sharon:
Are you dumb? If you don't have an Indian around you can't you read sources? Knowledge is literally at your finger tips. Stop the foolish questions Abeg.Why would an Indian lie to you about his religion? Oh you think Hindus engage in al-taqqiya like you Muslims are taught to do?

Blasphemy is not freedom of speech? Oh really? So why is this right suppressed in Islamic countries? Can I say whatever I want about Mohammed in a Sharia country??

Exactly. Science doesn't say horses can fly but apparently Mohammed rode a flying horse to heaven? Does science agree with that?

I see how you ignored my point on Muhammed Bala. Peaceful north my foot.

if you don't mind me asking, are you a Christian? Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross and is still going to come back? Does science agree with that?
Science doesn't have to agree with everything. But fine, if science doesn't agree with the prophet going to heaven, science does agrees with every other thing I mentioned above and more and they're all in the Quran.
Blasphemy is a right? C'mon!
Knowledge is indeed at our fingertips and you couldn't access the "knowledge at your fingertip" and give me scriptural proof of your assertions.
Why would an Indian lie to me about his religion? You're really asking this question? I see you have no point at all.
You've failed to answer my questions. You tagged them "foolish questions" only because you have no answer.
And I don't know anything about the Muhammed Bala you were talking about that's why I ignored it.
Do have a lovely night.

1Sharon:
I just told you? I'm not aware of any scriptures but go and ask any Indian why they don't eat beef. They hold the cow sacred.



Go and and read up about Hinduism and it's various deities. You don't need scriptures to learn a religion.

What the Bible considers blasphemy is not the same as what you Muslims consider blasphemy.

Where are Christian laws in reality that punish people with death for perceived blasphemy? Do they follow the Bible blindly or has Christianity been REFORMED?

Correction islam is incompatible with western civilization and society because there is intolerance and no freedom of speech.

Islam is compatible with science? Does science say horses can fly?

You're not aware of any scriptures but I should ask an Indian? I don't know any Indian and even if I do, am I to take your word or that of a random Indian as the gospel truth? I know better.
You do need scriptures to learn religions. At least that's what Islam taught me. You don't just do things because you think they're right or cool or because many people are doing it. You do things because the scripture teaches and permits you to do them. Now that's the difference between Islam and other religions.
What the Bible considers blasphemy is not the same thing as what Islam considers? Really? Please enlighten me. You may have a different definition of blasphemy which I don't know about. And what does the Bible considers as blasphemy?
Is there anything as "follow the Bible blindly"? I'm sure you do know that to follow blindly means you do something without thinking for yourself whether what you are doing is right or wrong. Are you insinuating that something can be in the Bible and also the morally wrong or unethical at the same time?
Blasphemy is not freedom of speech anywhere in the world. You can't hurt people because you are exercising your freedom.
No. Science does not say horses can fly but scientists agree that almost everything, from relativity, quantum mechanics, Big Bang theory, black holes and pulsars, genetics, embryology, modern geology, thermodynamics, even the laser and hydrogen fuel cells, have been 'found' in the Quran, which was revealed over a thousand years ago. In fact, Muslims were modern long before the modern world and modern science. If you still think otherwise, read this book The Bible, the Quran and Science by Maurice Bucaille.
Here's a link to the PDF http://www.islamicbook.ws › ...PDF
The Bible,The Qur'an and Science - islamicbook

If only Daniel Regha is on nairaland

Nigerians are generally kind and peaceful people. I know this because I was born and bred in the barracks where there are every tribe and religion. You may be from Abia and your neighbor from Borno and you lookout for each other.

1Sharon:
Hindu proof of blasphemy ? I just told you. They hold the cow sacred and don't consume it. Eating beef around them is considered disrespectful. Nigerians that work with Indians have confirmed this. Indians are mainly vegetarian.

As you kill and eat meat for your eid festivals just know you're offending a Hindu.

But do they have laws in place to kill you for doing so? That's the difference between you and them.

Christians and Muslims both believe in Jesus but Muslims don't venerate him as Christians do. To say Jesus is a prophet is disrespectful to Christians.

Thanks for confirming Islam is backward and not compatible with a modern society.

Don't dare label ppl islamophobic when you suppress and kill the minorities among you.


Muhammed Bala is an atheist man that has been imprisoned in the North, where is the tolerance?
When Muslims are the minority they are very concerned with rights. When they become the majority, nobody has any rights.

I hear you but you've not given me any proof from any scripture. There's
The Bible for Christianity, The Quran And The Hadiths for Islam, The Vedas And The Upanishads for Hinduism, The Tipitaka for Buddhism or The Tanakh And The Talmud for Judaism. Any of these scriptures at all.
You said there's a concept for blasphemy in Hinduism but you have failed to provide a proof for your assertion. I told you about the law of blasphemy according to the Bible and you said nothing about it. Your only concern is that Muslims kill people for blasphemy but you fail to understand that killing people for blasphemy is not a sin according to the Bible.
Islam is backward only according to your definition which is adhering to the scripture.
Islam is not compatible with a modern society? Islam is not only compatible with the modern society, it was also compatible with the ancient society and even with the future. Islam is also compatible with science.

1Sharon:
Why are you now being disingenuous and narrowing down the definition of blasphemy?

Is blasphemy only the dismissal of deities?

Blasphemy also involves disrespecting what is held SACRED.

If that wasn't the case, why is it considered blasphemy to mock Mohammed?? Is Mohammed a GOD??


My point still stands. In Hinduism and Christianity, YOU are considered a blasphemer because you do not respect what THEIR RELIGION HOLDS SACRED.

What you FEEL about the divinity of Jesus is irrelevant.

The Christians FEEL a different way about Jesus than you do.

And you not acknowledging Jesus as God and calling him a prophet and continuing to consume beef is considered blasphemous to Christians and Hindus respectively.
My point again stands.

And you are wrong. Hindus do have a concept of blasphemy. The cow is not god but is sacred to them. Consuming the cow is considered sacrilege
The difference between you Muslims and Hindus is that they won't put you to death for desecrating what they hold as sacred.


What the Bible says about blasphemy? Do Christians have laws in place to kill people for blasphemy or have they reformed their beliefs?

That's another difference between Christians and Muslims. They don't operate on autopilot like Muslims when it comes to beliefs. Islam is called backward for a reason.


Now is Islam truly peaceful when people can be put to death for holding minority beliefs?

Why did you call me islamoohobic when Islamists display phobia to the minorities among them?

You are right, we are both right in this case. Blasphemy also involves disrespecting what is held sacred and no. Muhammad (SAW) is not God.
Hindus have a concept of blasphemy? I am not wrong sister but you are. If they do then what is it? Give me proof.
What is it that Christianity holds sacred that the Muslims disrespect?
Is it Jesus? The Muslims not only believe in Jesus but also love, respect and honor him by following his teachings. Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is not considered a Muslim.
Or is it Mary the mother of Jesus? There is a chapter in the Quran dedicated to her (Quran 19). Muslims also love and respect her.
We name our children after them.

Yes Christians do have law in place to kill people for blasphemy. See Leviticus 24:16 "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death".
Except if you don't consider the words of the Bible as laws of course.

If following the scripture is your definition of backward then yes, Islam is backward.

Muslims display phobia to the minorities among them? This is a misconception. Have you ever been to the northern part of Nigeria where Muslims are the majority? (I take it you're Nigerian) if you haven't, ask those youth corp members who served or are serving in the north or the Igbos and Yoruba non-Muslims who resides and own businesses in the north. The Muslims are generally peaceful and loving people.


And I'm glad we're having this conversation.

1Sharon:
Basically, someone deserves to die to not hurt the feelings of Muslims.

In what way does someone declare they don't believe in god anymore affect law and order?

The Qur'an forbids Muslims to be blasphemou s? You do know you're a blasphemer to a Christian because you deny that Jesus is God.
You are also a blasphemer to a Hindu because you consume the cow and don't hold it sacred as they do.

We are all blasphemers according to some religion.

Give it up. Muslims are not peaceful people if you feel it's okay to kill someone for their beliefs or lack of beleifs.


Muslims are such hypocrites. They love to label people islamophobic so freely. Meanwhile when they become the majority they show their own phobia and hatred for the minority beliefs among them.

Your true colours show when you become the majority in ANY society. Give it up.

Give it up? Not while I have all the facts. You should give it up. Only when you're fully convinced though.
When a Muslim says Jesus (peace be upon him) is not God, that is not blasphemy because there are many verses of the Bible and the Quran that says so. For example, (all KJV):

Mark 12:29 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord"

Romans 1:21-23
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

there are other verses of the Bible but I'll stop here. The Quran also says :
Quran 4:171
People of the Book! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to Allah nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him (which led to Mary's conception). So believe in Allah and in His Messengers, and do not say: (Allah is a) trinity. Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. Allah is indeed just one God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. Allah is sufficient for a guardian.

Jesus is not God. There is nothing blasphemous about the statement.
And on Hinduism, eating cow (beef) and saying cow is not God is also not a blasphemy. Hinduism and its offshoots Buddhism and Jainism, have no concept of blasphemy and hence no punishment. The idea of blasphemy is entirely and unsurprisingly absent. Unlike other religions, they do not prescribe what is right thought, speech or action. Buddhists for example do not believe in a god that will punish those who commit sins. Instead, the Buddhist belief in karma, or the notion that every action has a consequence, holds that punishment comes as a natural result of hurtful acts.
There are many verses of the Quran to prove that cow or any other animal, man, stone, the sun, moon, stars or any creature whatsoever are not God but I won't go into that now.

On the punishment for blasphemy, what do you think the Bible says about it? Check out Leviticus 24:16 (KJV). "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death".
These are not my words, you can look them up for yourself.
Hypocrisy? Lol do your research sister.

Hismasterpiece:
You said that anyone that rejects the sacrifice of Jesus is going to hell and that's exactly what the Bible teaches.

No I did not. That is what you believe. The question is, is rejecting the "sacrifice" a sin or not?

ochibuogwu5:
If Jesus cannot do it for you, then no being in the heavens, earth, in the seas or underworld can ever do it for you

even God?

Hismasterpiece:
You already answered your question.

and this is a very wrong answer my friend.

Hismasterpiece:
He, in His Justice and Mercy and Grace and Love sent His Son Jesus to take our well-deserved punishment so we won't have to. John 3:16-21.

So what's the essence of hell since he sent His "son" to die for the sins of man.
If he did died for the sins why would people still go to hell? And don't say it is because they fail to accept him because failure to accept him should also be a sin which he has already died for.
OP abeg this story get as e be
I believe in heaven and hell but Christianity does not and can't really explain it.
Nobody died for nobody's sins. I mean, where is the justice?

judgement day go tough

1Sharon:
I'm not a Christian.

Forget homosexuality and address my comments on blasphemy laws.

Peaceful religion y'all say?

Didn't know you're not a Christian. Sorry about that.
And on blasphemy, yeah, peaceful religion it is. Blasphemy not only hurts the religious sentiments of others, but it also disturbs the peace and harmony of any society and even causes law and order problems, that is why Islam does not allow even the idols of the polytheists reviled or maligned. Allah says:“And abuse not those whom they call upon beside Allah, lest they, out of spite, abuse Allah in their ignorance.”Al Quran 6:108
See how peaceful the religion is? The holy Quran forbids Muslims to be blasphemous but if a blasphemy is committed, whether by a so called Muslim or non-Muslims, the blasphemer must be punished so that others won't do the same. This is not only really very simple to understand but also fair and logical.
Before you go into the punishment for blasphemy, I'll love to ask you a simple question and I'll really appreciate a honest answer from you. If a Muslim doesn't abuse what you hold sacred (it's a grave sin for a Muslim to do that as you've seen above) why do non-Muslims abuse what the Muslims hold sacred? It is obviously unprovoked. Who's the peaceful one now?
Looking forward to your honest answer my friend. Hope you have a great day.

1Sharon:
Of course you don't support homosexuality. You're Muslim aren't you?

Christian homophobes in SA? Is that the best you could do? WEAK.

In 13 Islamic countries, apostasy laws exist. Non-believers can be killed for their lack of belief and homosexuality is punishable by death.

Show me the Christian countries that do this?

If Muslims are truly a peaceful majority where is the OUTRAGE on LAWS like THAT?

Hypocrites.

Yes I'm a Muslim and yes I don't support homosexuality but wait a minute, what version of the Bible are you reading that's in support of homosexuality? Islam is against homosexuality so Muslims are openly against it not like some of y'all Christians. Hypocrites you said? Lol Matthew 23:27,28 says otherwise. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean".

1Sharon:
If it's one thing you muslims have, it's audacity.

Islamophobic? When gay people are killed in Muslims countries and atheists face apostasy laws? Whe

Islamophobia? What about the hatred you have for non- believers? The death penalty ? You dish out hatred and intolerance, yet claim to be the opposite.

You all deserve the hate you are getting, because you are hateful.

Of course you're not supposed to take my word for it, that's why I put the excerpt

The book is Peter hammond: slavery, terror and Islam


Google the excerpt to see I didn't make it up

Lol. You make me laugh. You really do. Why don't you check this out https://www.secularism.org.uk/christian-homophobes-are-spreadi.html
Just to be clear, I'm not in any way in support of homosexuality. Brought this up because of what you said. Saw this while I was trying to get to know the said author of the book you're talking about. But not to digress from the point, I still haven't gotten the book. Still trying though