₦airaland Forum

szczescie:
Don’t japa sit down and wait

Japa to where my brother.

The highest u could get is student visa and u get there they take all money via school and settling down e.g getting pr turn to another battle.

Again we are almost 300m.

Japa is out of question but a revolution but again

We are tribalistic

For the past few weeks now we have not heard about military formation attacked and soldiers killed.

SmartPolician:
The inflation rate is alarming. If state governors increase the minimum salary, prices of goods and services will increase as if everyone works for the government.

We did a study in England and in the workshop the prof said wage increase doesn't cure inflation. That immediately wage increases occur then factors owners will increase the prices of good to match the cost of production

Offpoint1:
I'm not talking of "growing" of income here, we're talking expenses.

I'm simply telling you if someone hand over 30m to you today as a family man and said this is the only money you're getting for a whole year... I'm putting it to you that by the end of one year you won't have a million naira left.

That's the reason no reason person should entrust 100k into ur hand

mrvitalis:
Surviving and living comfortably are two different thing

People survive on 50k a month

U can not live in comfort in Nigeria with 2.5 million a month... U must manage

U need to carry gun go rob bank on daily basis

ogascomax:
It's not about poverty just say can 30 millionaire give you a live of luxury. You just want to be wasteful. Who told you that 30 millionaire will not give you all that. They are standard and quality life you can still have. They are good places you can live. You can eat healthy with that money. Your children can go to nice school with it. Do you want to give birth to community.
You think out of the box. Get an inverter. They are people living well without such an amount. They use that amount to live below their means. It's people who are not yet earning some level of money right now that comes with unnecessary expectations that think this way. You can plan even a vacation once or twice a year.
30 millionaire means you are earning 2.5 millionaire monthly. And you are there talking about poverty you are not just serious at all. Many people are building houses without earning such.
You guys go just come online to impress who with fantasy.

Na yeye de worry them.

How much was i earning before i built my first house?

I have seen keke riders successfully built houses i. Mean houses with class.

. 2.5m is a huge money in Nigeria

lawani:
By the time you have built trust for years, worked for years in a business and someone is giving you ten million naira in credit, check what you have invested and it will be worth well over ten million naira

There was a time before i left Nigeria many years ago.

I wanted to sell electrical parts. So i knew i needed to learn from someone for 6 months pr 1 year..

The young man told me that after serving his oga he started with less than 300k but if u see shop.



U go respect am

Offpoint1:
Na because you never see money na him make you think sey 15m is big.

Make person dash you 30m today and start counting till a year if 1m go remain for your hand.... Like that 30m is the only money you'll have access to the whole year.

I know exactly understand what the op is saying

If u can't account for 30m within a year or knows how to grow income then if given 200m u won't account for it

lawani:
Ok. It is possible but still difficult. Small capital can grow fast but as capital passes certain thresholds it becomes more difficult to grow.

Everything is takes time business takes time to grow and as u old in the business wisdom grows.. With consistency u get there.

I remember when i was in business years ago close to 20 years ago there were businesses i started with 10k... Yes 10k within 2 months i was counting 130k as profit.

Guess what? Sellers offered me products. They saw how genuine i was and was willing to push products for me... Like pack don't worry by evening i will come and collect whatever u sold

OkanlawonB:
Oga pls this has nothing to see money or no see money, 30m naira can take care of the financial needs of a family of 4 in Lagos.
A three bed apartment can be gotten for 300k a month or 3.6m naira a year.
What percentage of the income has gone for rent? the answer is 12%

In Germany the average pension is 1,500 euros per month which is equivalent to 2.5m naira.
A one bed or studio apartment will cost about 600 euros. Gas and Electricity about 60 euros
Percentage of rental cost from income is 44% and the pensioner is living on what is left of the income.
Food cost more in Germany, petrol cost more, many other items cost more also in Germany.

How much is a 50kg bag of rice in Naija?, how much is a life chicken ?, how much is a crate of eggs.
Don`t send kids to overpriced private schools.
30m per annum is enough money for a 4 head family to live on in Nigeria.

Must he leaves in. Lagos. I have a friend doing transport in Lagos and stays around ogun state each morning he comes do his business and go home. He pays less than 600 per year on rent and he said he makes 400k per month aside expenses.

He is saving 400k alone not what the wife is bringing


Some of this guys are yahoo guys

lawani:
The person was assisted with one million naira. That one million naira can not possibly be all the capital that he is working with. Someone that saved six million naira a year has capital not less than ten to fifteen million naira in his business. Probably more

I said years ago and its precisely 4 years ago . I didn't say 1m to raise 6m in one year.

Business need consistency and the 6m profit is aside profit made from two years ago, 3 years ago.. Just last year i am referring to.


U talk about working capital. That i don't know but the business doesn't demand that amount.

There are many businesses u can enter today that if done properly and within years if successful wilm yield that. Just know ur terrain, learn or serve those into the business for 6 months etc. Get a good location and u are good to go.

People if trusted can offer goods on credit worth 5 to 10m just one person but u have to build trust over years.. You can become even a distributor of a particular brand and if seen trusted and ur turnover is high in few days they could alone give u goods worth 20m



Go and listen to maduka of cosmos

lawani:
When someone says 30 million naira annual income is survival mode for the average Nigerian in any city then you know they are not earning legit income. They are most probably yahoo people

Honestly am shock.

This are mostly kids that knows nothing about business or wealth creation.

I know someone given less than 1m few years to run a business. Last year he told me that he has a profit close to 6m..thats profit minus expenses and goods still in shop.

The business self no even stressful compared to the 12hrs shift stress i pass through here.

mrvitalis:
Do you understand what living comfortably means? No body saying you can't survive you can surely

But living comfortably? On 30 million a year? Not possible

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That's why i called u richman.

U are dreaming the life of Atiku and peter obi..

It took them years to build that and get to that level.

And secondly for you to have risen to that level in whatever u do to earn that much... Then u should have thought about getting a moderate 3 bedroom apartment of urs to eliminate rznts.

You mentioned 10m to sort school fees for your kids. I believe there are schools that teach well that one could get below 150k per term or max 200k as rich man u be. Even here in United Kingdom we still look for private teachers to teach our children although the white no send and government school is free.

My main concerns about Nigeria is just the insecurity .. Once that is tackled and inflation calm down through introduction of controlled subsidy via local refinery with aim to male fuem sell 400 per litter things will bounce back.


I am in the uk and working my ass out.. Honestly house rent, electricity, gas alone takes 50% of my monthly expenses.

I earn 1.8k pounds aftet tax per month then am left with less than 1k from there u remove other local council taxes, food, transport, other little expenses like phone bill at the end u get savings of less than 500.

And i didn't leave large as u described above cos that's luxuriy here aside electricity,security. The rest u mentioned is luxury.

If u can't survive in Nigeria with 1300 pounds per month then u can't survive in UK and save with 2k per month.

mrvitalis:
95% Nigerians don't yes
But 30 million can't give you a good life in nigeria especially
1) you live in a big city
2) you are married with kids

Rent alone is 10 million for a good 3 bedroom flat in a good location

Good schools for kids minimum 10 million per year for 3 kids

30 million can't give you good life in Nigeria

U would struggle and live hand to mouth

Rich people with doings

mrvitalis:
Oya break it down less see
30 million is mere 20k dollars

Like 4 million 2015

Its like u from a wealthy home

Please cut down ur expenses

tunapawizzy:
To live a good life? yes
To ball is a different matter

What do u mean by to ball?

30m is a huge money anyway in the world. Thats over 15k pounds .

If u have that kind money in ur account u should know how many years u saved that

Kushites:
We know you would love Satanyahu to repeat his Gaza genocide in Nigeria.

Why don't you leave Nigeria if you're so desperate to see our children slaughtered in their hundreds of thousands?

You can actually get a visa to Israel, to enjoy their genocide close-up in real time.

Can't you afford the ticket?

You call terrorist your children?

Ah you might not know what security means except u leave Nigeria.

In UK i can work even 1am at night i do it mostly
No fear.

There was times I used to guard heavy machines and site inside the forest with no guns or knife just touch light. I mean inside forest where the next house is like an hour drive.

Call police and they are there like 5mins.

No fear nothing.

Nigeria is like jungle and its crazy how APC has normalised insecurities as a normal thing and Nigerians are getting along with it

MaxInDHouse:
Should i say the highlighted revealed what is in your mind?🤔

Well true Christians don't do harvest nor first fruit neither do we sow seeds using material things in the congregation.

Harvest or thanksgiving are done by all pentecostal churches... Redeem, mfm etc.

First fruit are done by them likewise.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus never established Christianity base on gift items it's about the message of God's Kingdom which has nothing to do with worldly things.
Do those people know what to do when politics and racism comes to play?
Do they know and believe that they have to remain loyal to their fellow believers not raising weapons to fight their fellow worshipers?

Gifts may seem like friendship or love but it's not what Jesus taught us! 1Corinthans 13:1-3

But while in Nigeria you gave harvest by December right

And by January u will do first fruit.. All ur salary as first fruit.

Then seed sowing, then monthly tithes and offerings.

Secondly, almost all mega churches has universities in which the price members can't even send their ward to. They also have secondary schools which are the most expensive.

All that big GO have private jets, limousine and all types of expensive cars ane mansion.

Are all this Christ like?

Examine all Nigerian big churches in UK they always run into problems with authorities as they often refused their accounts to be cross examined because they are non profit organisation.

MaxInDHouse:
He wants to hear people's opinion and going by the items he is displaying they are not even Christians to start with!🤔

why do u say going by gift they are not Christians?

writeprof:
Are you a Christian truly? Your statement against the Nigerian Christian Community is not truthful. Maybe, it's the Christian community you belong to...and a question to you is what has been your own contribution to the community since January till December? I have heard a lot of testimonies from Nigerians who relocated to the UK of the warm and friendly reception and support received from Nigerian Christian communities.

Some so-called Christian expects so much from the "church" without any sense of responsibility towards the church's finances. Does the church have a factory or industry that gives it money? NO!

Every individual is the "church" and is expected to contribute his/her quota to the church by voluntary giving, and faithful payment of tithes and offerings from which the church have to give also.

The mindset behind giving to and by the church is God-centred and not self-centred.

Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. Get connected to Him sincerely. 2026 promises to be great.

While in Nigeria i know how many pastors i placed on salary. Infact there are months 200 to 300k goes out from me to charity with an average of 200k dedicated to charities. Please note that this was when Naira had value. A bag of rice then was below 35k...


When i came to the uk i could remember how we had our baby here in uk inform the church via pastor immediately at hospital n non shown up for almost a week.
When they knew we were new immigrants they showed less concern or concerns with caution as if u need immigration assistance from thm.

Was it the issue when i needed the church assistant to secure accommodation when i arrived because i needed a guarantor but they declined. Mind u i hsd over 5 months rent upfront.

Was it about job? Nothing of such. They preach one n do opposite

seunmsg:
It’s very obvious you’re pained that the FG is working with the US to smoke out the terrorists. That wasn’t what you guys wanted. Sadly, you can’t get what you want in this situation. We shall not gloss over the collaboration no matter how painful it is to you and other terrorists sympathizers.

Yes, we spoke out against a unilateral air strike in order to protect the territorial integrity of Nigeria. The US government listened to our concerns and instead opted to work with the FG to strike the terrorists. Nobody is against that except folks like you who are always angry over everything since Peter Obi lost the 2023 election.

Nigerians are killed daily in hundreds and all you cared about is territorial integrity?

See how resources that should go to improving the living standards of Nigerians are used to fight terrorist.

Our beloved country is now at the mercy of ISIS and all u cared is Tinubu and territorial integrity? Tinubu has not shown enough commitment to fighting this terrorist. He was quick to send jets to Benin but has not in the case of Nigeria.

U self think am

I just saw this

Itiskdg121:
Almost all churches would give you gifts as a first timer from my experience. I may be wrong though

not first timer stuff.

My friend that introduced me said that her children gets giftd often

slimdamatrix1:
Nice!

I think I prefer these western churches.

They understand the assignment more than we Africans.

I have washed my hands off them. From today its this one and it's closer to my house

SpencerForbes:
Honestly, it feels like most people dragging Nigerian churches haven't actually experienced the good ones. I have to give credit where it's due—back when I was a regular at RCCG, they were consistent with sharing hamper with food items, and Christ Embassy does the same. Many churches even distributed bags of rice and other food items this Christmas. Just because your local branch didn’t show up for you doesn't mean others aren't doing the work.

Please this is not Christmas gift.. It was one of the Sundays in December. The storehouse was opened and we collected anything we wanted. I got this shoe. It came with the receipt
I decided to post this today cos i am free

They even asked us to come this Christmas day... 25th for gifts but i couldn't.. Because of work

Men.... Always run dna test to avoid tears

SEGLIZ:
you reserve no right to tell him off the thread, it a public and open forum for all if don't want opposite opinion you the one that should have stayed off.


my question is, what is the population of that church.

with you asking people to stay off it's obvious you are targeting the Nigerian churches.

This is the very firdt time am going to church in my life and i received such gifts.

Our Nigerian Christian community don't practicalise love
By January they will call for first fruit... That's all ur salaries.
Remember this December they called for thanksgiving where members will bring or empty their purse.
Then we talk about tithe and offering
And unending seed sowing.

So i was excited to share to show love still exists in Christian communities.

SEGLIZ:
you reserve no right to tell him off the thread, it a public and open forum for all, if you don't want opposite opinion you are the one that should have stayed off.


my question is, what is the population of that church.

with you asking people to stay off it's obvious you are targeting the Nigerian churches.

you are contradicting yourself with the bolded there. first time of attending a church "in your life", yet you are dissecting a church inside out?

beside you don't know the church like you claim. you only judge the church based on hearsay, the general judgemental opinion of those that are positioned to bring down the church. I'm not saying all churches are good but backlash against Christianity for no reason is out of it.

I'm not against what ever the charity out there, good thing to do and I love it. as a people (Nigerians) are too entitled, even when can afford it, we still want it for free even at the expense of those that really needs it.


they won't rather they will whimp, they don't pay tithe, those paying aren't complaining, even the one individual that can't explain what church is would scream the loudest.


you wey nobi MUGU, as soon as you carry headache cause of some MU-MU, your MUGU na him worse pass. you said west fine the law in Nigeria does not register church as charity but religious organizations only that dey enjoy tax exemption like the NGOs. not until recently the west in particular UK don't scrutinise church account.

the case Matthew Ashimolowo wasn't of embezzlement (verify your claim,) his church was investigated and found clean but his success was his problem with UK government. they wanted to kill his investment as such he relocated everything back to Nigeria, mind his source of wealth was back home.

I no drop quote o, na fact o. mind you I nobi pastor, I just believe in the existence of God and a must to serve Him, irrespective of people actions and inactions. the truth is people don't know the church like they claim. if you want us to talk more on this, we might get engaged.

Please i have been attending church as i am a practical Christian in Nigeria and away but what i meant is that even here i got stucked with Nigerian churches because they all have branches here like Redeem, deeper life, christ embassy etc

But this is my first time of going to an all white church here and also the first time to receive gifts. The gifts are over 300 pounds and there are more i didn't post here

NoahHadNoArk:
It was a gift, from the abundance of another man’s heart.

Why bring it here to announce to the world, what was supposed to stay between you and the he church ?!

Was it not enough or something ?!

stay off the thread please.



Lots of baby's night wears for my baby child all brand new with labels

The third is a new show with receipt stuck inside the shoe

This comes with remote control likewise. You can charge it as you can see am charging it

immortalcrown:
I guess they do more of giving than asking for tithes.

Bro nothing like tithe. Nothing of such.
And nothing like" are you here for first time stand up for recognition "

Toys for my baby... With remote control.

Please note this was not Christmas gift rather the store house is open for all n its filled with assorted things.



Its like take whatever u like..
. Lots of clothes, shoes, drinks, etc i picked only what i could take n all is brand new with receipt

It was last Sunday