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Sports › Re: France(0) Vs Nigeria(1) On Tuesday 2nd June by FBS: 8:42pm On Jun 02, 2009

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 8:40pm On Jun 02, 2009

Ibime:
(1.) Don't be silly! Even Debosky has stressed this point in the past. Arsene changed the Gunners style of play when Cesc Fabregas arrived. Before 2005, it was a counter-attacking style with Vieira, Ljungberg and Pires breaking from box to box in 3 seconds flat. Again, a wise man should be able to tell the changing times

(2.) Italy is not a club side and there is nothing to be nurtured. Players meet up for one-day a month and you do whatever is necessary to win games. . . . . . do you find Juventus attractive?. . . . instead of turning to Barca, Man Utd et al, Jose turned us into Juventus. . . . nay, he turned us into Greece of Euro 2004 fame, because however dour Juventus football is, they have always had a trequarista, be that Del Piero, Baggio etc. . . . can Juventus ever have a massive fan base in the world?

(3.) It doesn't matter where Boa-Morte is today. When you give youngsters a chance, some will pass and some won't. . . . for every Boa-Morte, Kabba Diawara and Aliardiere, read Vieira, Ljungberg, Anelka, Ashley Cole, Kolo Toure and all the other youngsters who were a success!

(4.) Arsenal did not start losing the moment the big guns left. Henry was there till 2007, Pires till 2006, Vieira till 2005. Arsenal stopped winning when Arsene changed the style of play, not because of departures. . . . from going from a team that counteraattacks swiftly, Arsenal started passing the ball too much and too predictably. . . . it's only natural.

(5.) The fact is that Stoch and MM got more chances than any youngster ever did under JM, with the exception of Lass and GJ who were bought already having experience. Mancienne played a couple of games at right-back and was even brought on as substitute in midfield. Lemme ask you something. . . . . have you heard of Mbark Boussafa?. . . . . he is the best player in Belgium and Marseille wanna sign him for £10m. . . . that was one of the youngsters we let go under the JM era. . . .

(6.) JM brought a winning mentality to the club, agreed. . . . shame it is a Juventus mentality and not a Barcelona mentality. . . . if you spend £200m on players, you better bring some mentality. . . . infact, I expect those players to be able to win even without mentality. . . . their skill should be good enough if you spent £200m on them. . . . . . for every Essien and Drogba, I think of all the players he turned down the chance to sign. . . . Ribery's, Torres and such. . . . whilst Essien and Drogba have performed, our present could be a lot more attractive considering the expenditure. . . . . sorry mate, JM fails the Cost-Benefit Analysis test!. . . .

(7.) The Chelsea of today have won nothing since JM left. . . . whilst they still have the never-say-die mentality, they are woefully short on skill. . . . . infact, since Gudjohnsen, Robben and Duff left, they have been woefully short on skill. . . . even JM failed to win the prem after the aforementioned players left. . . .

You are a bloody Arrow. More annoyingly you are in a self denial of the obvious. No offense meant but that was the plain truth. grin

1. Maybe I should have put it in a different way. AW changed his football style but not his attacking philosophy. I say congrats to him but what are the results. Trophy less seasons and a brand new stadium? maybe that is enough for you.

2. What is this about how much JM spent. Ok Imagine this. You are a president of a race team. I sell you a E-class Benzito for 20 million, you hire a good driver, pay him heavily and he wins the race not once but TWICE.
Nateevs buys the same benz for mere 3 million and did not even finish the race. grin

. Now tell me what was your secret of success? That is your take home assignment.

Sometimes you forget how Chelsea is managed and the objectives before the managers. JM 's first objective was the EPL, which he achieved. The UCL proved elusive. . .and well the rest is history.

But meanwhile check our trophy room and tell us if it was like that 50 years ago.

Take my advise and remember that Winners are never criticized. They are only envied.
If you want the Barca mentality then why not support the club or even arse-anal. the poorer version. wink

Now if you don't mind. I'd like to watch Naija play. Its been long I heard our national anthem.

nateevs:
I thot FBS said he wasn't in a mood to argue.

@Nateevs. I'm still not in the mood. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 2:26pm On Jun 02, 2009

Ibime:
A wise man should be able to read the signs of the times. . . .

Arsene is not failing because of youth policy per se, but because of change in style of play from a physical counter-attacking team, to a team that passes to the edge of the box a la Barcelona style. . .

Arsene has had success whilst blending youngsters into the team i.e Ashley Cole, Aliardiere, Luis Boa Morte, Ljungberg, Anelka, Eboue, Senderos, Clichy, Toure. . . . . and some would would argue a 20-year old Vieira etc. . . . .therefore his current lack of success cannot be blamed on blending youngsters. . . . again, Wengers failure is simply down to[b] change in style of play[/b], coupled with some lack of defensive nous. . . . he inherited a strong defence from George Graham and has never been adept at buying defenders or knowing what to look for in a defender. . . . .

I'm sure you didn't insult me. grin

But one a more serious note, you got to be kidding me. Did you say AW problem was change in style? Arsenal has been playing the same brand of pass-the-ball-till-you-peme type of football. grin

Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt and other teams have simply come to understand how to stop them.
Would you say Italy play sexy football? But they have won the world cup, how many times? 4!!! second only to Brazil. Victories. That is where the success lies.

Where is Luis Boa Morte et all today? Eboue? I'm pretty certain half of the gunners hate his guts.

See, the moment the big GUNS left, everything fell apart. Call it bubble bust. Kids cannot win you trophy. They provide the platform for the long run IF properly managed but you cannot use "kids" as your first 11. No, it will not work. Not in today's football.

I knew you were gonna bring up Santon so I should have pre-empted it. . . . Santon is an exception to the rule. . . . . how about Acquafresca, one of the brightest young strikers in Italy who JM has mortgaged out to Genoa in pursuit of 29-year-old Diego Milito. . . . . Santon was a hit and miss. . . JM was not happy with Maxwell's performances and put Santos in as there was a lack of cover. . . . . Santon proved himself straightaway and is of a grown-man mentality which Jose likes. . . . Jose has not had to nurture Santon at all as Santon came ready. . . .

How about JM's treatment of Balotelli. . . . . now Balotelli is coming good, with Adriano out of the picture, but as of January, JM was almost ready to sell Balotelli stating that he cannot say that Balotelli has quality. . . .

Also, what is the difference between Gibbs debut season and Clichy and Ashley Cole's, barring the slip against Man Utd?

I would have accepted your points if you were able to give credits to whom and when due. But instead you always look for a way out. Santon all of a sudden is an exception to the rule.
Tell me, how many times did Di-Santo, Stoch and MM play combined together under GH or LFS? You can actually count the number of minutes on one hand grin

Reason is simple, not all managers/coaches are willing to take the risk.

The key element here is mentality and that is what JM is after. Maybe he is not the skillfull-hunting type of manager (who can blame him. . .he was a half baked goal keeper grin

) but his mentality you cannot fault. No strange he demands same from his players and Santon was right on target.

Balloteli was having a big head just because he had the talent. JM has no time for big egos. He is the damn manager and presiding authority.
Balloteli started playing even before Adriano left and he got his reward for being level headed banging in fantastic goal. Most thanks to the manager.

The Chelsea of today came about as a result of JM's ability to bring about this never-say-die attitude we all talk about.
If you have any complaints, check our trophy room and tell me if it was like that some 50+ odd years ago.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 12:41pm On Jun 02, 2009

I laugh. . .honestly. You gast to be naive or just pretending. wink

1. True we want to see young faces in our line up but again there is a big risk involved. We dont want to end up like Arse-anal. Best is to mix things up but that time will come. It can't happen just like that.

2. JM gave young players some playing time but you and I know that he had a special assignment. He couldn't afford the luxury of experimenting.
AW- could experiment (and still experimenting but time is running out and everyone is screaming for him to buy players) yet he knows his major assignment was to balance the books after building stadium. Or you think he is simply stingy? Pray tell me who is going to buy Gibbs for 5 million naira grin

?(no offence to the guy).
SAF- what can I say. he calls the shots and he is Mr Manchester United himself.

2. Davide Santone is a first team player for Inter. How old is he? 18.! JM does believe in young talents but you CANNOT build your team on young guns alone. Remember Barca won nada for the last 2 seasons and you cannot really say they are all "young"

3. Arse-anal even with their "projects" has won nada in almost 5 seasons.

True success comes naturally but spicing things up does no harm. Ask yourself, where is LFS? Why is he not the Chelsea coach/manager. We probably should have allowed things to happen "naturally".
Blimey!!! Team spirit and performance was on a decline and situation demanded urgent surgery thus GH came in and he didn't come in for free.

If LFS had remained (and going by your natural success theory), can you guess how Chelsea would have ended the campaign?

PS: The same LD is now playing for RM. Why did he leave PM?

Sports › Re: Fiorentina Wants Obafemi Martins For £8 Million by FBS: 11:24am On Jun 02, 2009

Well this should be good news eh! He is not new to the Italian league.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 11:21am On Jun 02, 2009

Ribery, Villa, Pirlo , is Chelsea set to dominate the EPL and Europe?
http://www.tribalfootball.com/ribery-villa-pirlo-ancelottis-potential-super-team-shaping-best-epl-248140

Cant we go for Aguero, Geovinco/Pato & Ribery? Those guys are lethal and fast.
With these loads of players, how is the manager going to keep players happy?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 11:08am On Jun 02, 2009

@Ibime, were you not the same person who said give me a win (any form of win) over sexy brand of football when LFS was doing the Rumba with Chelsea?
I don't get it. What is your obsession with JM. Isn't that in the past? Na wa ooo

The Arses are loosing both the battle and the war. The only thing in stock for them is 4th place even in 400 years. cool

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: The 2009 Summer Football Transfer Thread(Bayern £22m Robben, Inter £13m Sneijdr) by FBS: 11:03am On Jun 02, 2009

Pellegrini named as new Real Madrid coach

Real Madrid have confirmed they have reached an agreement with Villarreal for Manuel Pellegrini to become their new coach.

The 55-year-old, who lists Argentinian giants River Plate amongst his former clubs, will be officially presented on Tuesday at midday local time at the Santiago Bernabeu.

A statement from Real Madrid read: "Real Madrid and Manuel Pellegrini have reached a deal for the Chilean coach to be the first team head coach during the forthcoming season.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=651888&sec=europe&cc=5739

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 10:59am On Jun 02, 2009

@Somze, I no know oh. . . grin

As regards JM, you couldn't have said it any better. Thanks. grin

Sports › Re: Warri Wolves Goalkeeper Slumps To Death by FBS: 10:56am On Jun 02, 2009

R.I.P. May God protect and provide for his family.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: The 2009 Summer Football Transfer Thread(Bayern £22m Robben, Inter £13m Sneijdr) by FBS: 10:55am On Jun 02, 2009

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=278439.msg3961551#msg3961551 date=1243893523]Maga don pay!! shout hallujah!! grin

[/quote]A-fori: You beat me to it cheesy

. Where is Dayok? Maga don pay. . . grin

How much did you pay for Timoshuk? cheesy

Sports › Re: France(0) Vs Nigeria(1) On Tuesday 2nd June by FBS: 10:48am On Jun 02, 2009

allboyz:
Our Super Eagles want to play France? i heard long ago and i tot it was a joke oooo . .
7 - 1 to France

If I didnt know you, I would have assumed that you are related to one ~~guy~~ thing on sports thread known for negative predos against _{*well you know which club*}. . .but you are clearly following ~~his~~ its path.
None of your predos has ever come true. Relax my guy. 7-1 huh

na cricket match dem they play?

Lithuania narrowly lost to France. Thanks to Ribery. We are miles better than the Lithuanians.
One things is certain, the SE are not expected to win. The pressure is on France and Domenech.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 10:26am On Jun 02, 2009

as said earlier, I'm just not in the mood to argue. To you JM is a coach but to me (and most of Chelsea lovers) Chelsea's best Manager till date. . .no one as come close save GH. Take it or leave it.

Ibra won the Capocannoniere for the first time since his arrival in Italy under JM. That could be the reason he asked for a rise in pay grin

. And was it not the same Ibra who left Juve after the scandal or is this the first time you see players moving out even after signing new contracts? abeg make we hear word.

other stories:

Ancelotti wants to keep Drogba at Chelsea

Carlo Ancelotti wants to keep Didier Drogba at Chelsea.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/ancelotti-wants-keep-drogba-chelsea-248179

CARLO ANCELOTTI wants Brazilian Alexandre Pato and ex-Chelsea defender Glen Johnson to kick-start his Blue revolution.

SunSport can reveal Ancelotti, 49, has already offered his old club AC Milan Ј30m for 19-year-old striker Pato.
And the new boss also gave Chelsea the nod to offer Portsmouth Ј12m for Johnson - ironically the first player Blues owner Roman Abramovich bought when he took over.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2459995/Get-me-Pato-and-Johnson.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Football

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 9:35am On Jun 02, 2009

allboyz:
True . .

he brought competition to the EPL and he's also the reason for more foreign players into the EPL with BIG WASTED MONEY. . .

I SEE HIM RETURNING MAYBE BY 2020

say what you like but in any case I'm not in the mood to argue.
I'd take some time off if I were you. Your team is a disgrace. tongue

sorry arse of a club---Arse-anal. disgusting.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 8:53am On Jun 02, 2009

JM remains Chelsea's best manager till date. . .take it or leave it.

Sports › Re: France(0) Vs Nigeria(1) On Tuesday 2nd June by FBS: 8:49am On Jun 02, 2009

igwe will not be playing. . .so what next? tongue

Sports › Re: France(0) Vs Nigeria(1) On Tuesday 2nd June by FBS: 8:14am On Jun 02, 2009

we can actually win this. Lithuania narrowly lost to France and we are miles better than them. grin

Sports › Re: French Open 2009: Nadal Loses In The Fourth Round!!! by FBS: 7:58am On Jun 02, 2009

Monfils. . .me like that guy. very childish but fun. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Your Thoughts On Obama Supreme Court Nominee by FBS: 7:50am On Jun 02, 2009

Obama is brilliant. cool

Fashion › Re: Are Guys More Fashionable Than Girls? by FBS: 1:10pm On Jun 01, 2009

says who?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 12:58pm On Jun 01, 2009

Milan Consider Swapping Pirlo For Chelsea's Essien

Milan have been linked with a move for Chelsea midfielder Michael Essien in a deal which would see Andrea Pirlo move in the other direction, according to Il Corriere Dello Sport.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2009/05/30/1294725/milan-consider-swapping-pirlo-for-chelseas-essien-report

They gotta be joking. cool

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 12:50pm On Jun 01, 2009

this is interesting and I like it. . . grin

Carlo Ancelotti(June 2009 - ?)
The Italian has an impressive managerial c.v and can boast two Champions League triumphs and a Serie A title (both with AC Milan) among his accomplishments.
But the 49-year-old has never managed in the Premier League. Will he do a Scolari or a Hiddink? We will have to wait and see,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1190029/Chelseas-Ruud-awakening-Mourinhos-special-delivery-Ancelottis-arrival--A-guide-Blues-foreign-bosses.html?ITO=1490

Family › Re: Would You Marry A Gurl/Guy You Met At Party Dancing/Fighting by FBS: 12:23pm On Jun 01, 2009

and what is the big deal? why not.

Politics › Re: What Have U Done Personally For Nigeria ? by FBS: 12:19pm On Jun 01, 2009

paid my tax and as at when due. . . grin

Sports › Re: SA 2010 WCQ: Nigeria(3) Vs Kenya(0) On Sunday 7th June by FBS: 12:16pm On Jun 01, 2009

The match against France will show how good or weak these guys really are but if we are to use the same B-team, then. . .hmmmm yawa go gas ooh! grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 12:12pm On Jun 01, 2009

relax guys. . .this may be the start of a new day. wink

The number of manager in a short period of time doesn't mean shait as long as they get the desired results. Agreed we need stability but hey, rome was not built in a day. We must keep trying until we get it right.

Why concede a race even before the start . . .

PS: ^{the other side of me is thinking} But why Ancelotti? undecided

I don't want to believe that RA wants fire from the supporters and lovers of CFC.

Sports › Re: The Best Striker In The World by FBS: 7:58pm On May 31, 2009

DD or Eto'o. Both are fantastic.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 7:55pm On May 31, 2009

allboyz:
what's happening here i tot Barca won the UCL . . . Why all this celebrations and Pre-Ejaculations? abi na Barca thread be this?

see shameless Arse-anal fan talking grin

. Didn't you say Everton will whoop us? tongue

who is having the last laugh now? cool

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by FBS: 7:28pm On May 30, 2009

Dr Kitaun:
all their ejaculations are now on Arsenal. . .

how can the 14th most successful club in English history be rubbing shoulders with the 3rd best ?

Arsenal be Chelsea's BABA anytime anyday . . .DONT GET IT TWISTED !!!

story story grin

we handed you the heaviest defeat at the emirati. tongue

pathetic mugus. grin

dont you think its time you improve on your history instead of just living on it?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 7:25pm On May 30, 2009

khanye:
Stick to ur Rugby team

I laf in indian. . .uuuuuuu grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by FBS: 7:09pm On May 30, 2009

Dr Kitaun:
@FBS

u be daddy now ?

who cares ?

I just hope ur wife doesnt allow u corrupt ur kids and make them as chavvy as u are

buncha asstards that went 50 bloody years without a league trophy claiming Macho all of a sudden

@Dr kit, take a chill pill. Too early to act irrational. I can't even imagine how painful it is to support a sorry arse club like Arse-anal grin

True, we went 50 years but we finally broke the jinx. . .
Now its your turn. . .
5 years and still counting. . . tongue

My wife cares, knows better and wise enough to know that Chelsea is the only real club. cool

btw, courtesy at least demands you say congratulations. mu mu grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here by FBS: 7:03pm On May 30, 2009

allow the guy to be having unnecessary ejaculation there. tongue

Barca my foot. cool

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