₦airaland Forum

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Okoro Niggeria will divide but get it into your thick skull that your blighted SE will become the new Lesotho of West Africa and if you dare allign with the fulani north to fight Niger Delta seccession you will all see real Holocaust .

Go tell it to the lizards crawling in your backyard. Nigeria will divide and we will be like the beautiful city on a hill that attracts investors from far and near. Just imagine a Nigeria without Igbos and other Biafrans, any tribes that remains inside her will go extinct.
Igbos know their boundaries. It is not you that will tell us.

Sufferingboy:
Keep quite,I made an observation.Even in agbor,you will see ndokwa people speaking Ika.

Ndokwa,Ika & Urhobos we are all brothers and intermarries so much.

Comot for road terrorist. Your cover don blow. Na Ika people I blame. Them dey leave you to use their name go find trouble. See as Ndokwa man smash your terrorist head.

Fooolishbuharri:
Now I see the "caught" at the bolded. Steer clear Bro! And by the way, No be you go tell us culture when we go uphold or not! No dey give unsolicited advice

Nice one. Crush the terrorist. They always have a devious plan.

Fooolishbuharri:
LMAO the matter tire me. Na so dem take dey start propaganda and before you know it, acrimony don enter. Orogun has a common border with Amai and we consider ourselves one! We've never had an inter communal clash despite being so close. When fulanis invaded our bushes, Orogun people chased them from Orogun to Amai, and Amai people joined hands till we crushed the invaders.

My both great grandmothers were from Amai. My great grandfathers from Orogun. My great grandmother was the Onwai during her life time being the oldest woman then. When she passed on, she was taken back to Amai despite marrying an Orogun man to be buried. Till date we have a family house there and Amai was our favorite holiday spot. We went to hunt snails there during the holidays because Amai people didn’t really eat snails.

If the OP isn't being mischievous, perhaps he'd have also said many Amai Ukwani people speak Orogun Urhobo too (ours is deeper than the usual one just as okpe Urhobo) because as I said, we are very much intertwined.

I like the way use put the sentence together. Orogun and Amai joined hands and crushed the invaders. Quash them like the bedbugs that they are.
No room for divide and rule down South.

Who takes a hermaphrodite seriously? He's a sufferingboy with a female gender attached to his moniker. No be madness be dat?
This same character has been praising Ndokwas in other threads but is concerned that Oroguns are speaking Ndokwa. He's not Ndokwa and neither is he Orogun, so what's his business in their interaction? We Know the evil people who fear 'those people from the other side'. The nightmare of the terrorists just began.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Judas Okoro, why are you backing Mbaka despite all his treachery against your people and the church ?

If Rabbi Kanustein tells you to support Buhari you fools will not hesitate to start sucking that one's cuck.

When I stated that you Igbos are cult hero worshipping idiots with a fanatical bent and an archiac tribal mentality , you phillistine savages will be calling your father Fulani.

Okoro, buying and selling cheap chinko goods is not a sign of intelligence.

Keep your petty trade and banal igbotic mindset away from politics as your foolishness of 1966 got us here.

Congo Jew rat.

No be my fault say you dey foam for mouth like this. Nigeria MUST divide so you can run mad finally. Of all the killings and destruction happening in Nigeria, na Mbaka be your problem. You see say e dey very easy to identify terrorists. Na this same energy una people take face Bishop Kukah and if to say them leave una, una for cross stop line. Even this Mbaka own, una been wan try rubbish but defense gallant for im side. Na the reason wey make you dey cry like this. Continue to dey cry o. You go dey alright las las. I fit buy you hanky if you no mind.
As for terrorist Buhari, una for keep am as life president after we don go from Nigeria to Biafra. We dey talk about going our way this one they talk buhari. If na joke make you stop am o.

A suffering fruit vendor murdered in cold blood by a Nigerian soldier because he wouldn't part ways with some bananas for free. What a country!
Tomorrow someone will write RIP for such evil military men who see civilians as bloody games to be easily tossed away at any notice.
May the soul of the young man rest in peace.

ImmaculateJOE:
Both of the monikers are one.
Now your Identity is clear, you're neither Yoruba Muslim nor a Northern Christian.
You are a Fulani jihadist.

helinues, Ooni.

You're very smart. Let's allow them entertain us. Nothing much to add to the trashy thread.

owobokiri:
Make no mistakes about it; the emotional ones are those of you who are so sensitive to the vagaries of the politics of the moment. I just pray that most of you "segregationists" don't ever get to any serious commanding decision making positions in igboland. It will be a recipe for disaster to watch igboland and her gorgeous boundaries redefined and recalibrated based on all these debilitating impulsive - kneejerk reasonings. You lot know absolutely nothing about how states are formed. ..

If we're to follow your templates, igboland might end up just for people of Orlu and few clans around there. Because there are so many clans in Igboland that do have their semi-independent mindsets. The Oguta area used to be like that before Arthur nzeribe and co drew them deep into Imo state politics. Onitsha do have their muted nauseating Benin tales. Infact, I do believe that Ziks One Nigeria politics had it's origin in his inability to let go of his cultural trappings across the country.., ditto Ojukwu who was born in Zungeru and trained somewhat in Lagos! Abakiliki nko? We heard Dave Umeahi continuously complain of marginalisations within the east even though he's the perenial chairman of the governors forum. The Igbos ceeded to Benue, Edo and Cross Rivers states are almost gone because those of you in the hinterlands have embraced this kindergarten politics of exclusion, which only favors federal Nigeria. Asaba, which is most probably the most thriving Igbo town today that used to be in this mould, is emphatically pro-igbo right now because instead of listening to the naysayers, most igbo traders from Onitsha and environs invested heavily in real estate across the length and breadth of Asaba (isn't it interesting that 'ordinary traders" presumed to be unlettered are the ones who did this magic)! You also had isolated voices in Asaba that managed to speak up, like the Asagba of Asaba.. If the Igbos in Onitsha turned their back at Asaba, that town will have been very pro - Benin like Agbor them..

Isreal still has some Arab population inside Isreal. Do you know how vulnerable geopolitically the zionists will be if for instance, in the quest to have a pure zionist state, they ceede out the Arab areas of Isreal to any other Arab country...., simply because Arab nationalism runs haywire there? Isreal is rather acquiring more Arab lands at the Golan as speak.. The Yorubas that encourage you to dump your igboids groups near the atlantic, have they dumped the Aworis and the Eguns that own Lagos? Do you know how vital Lagos has become in the economy of the Yorubas? Inspite of the murmurings from the Ijebus, Eguns, Aworis etc, how many times have you heard the mainstream Yoruba seriously discuss running away from those? Do you guys even know that if Biafra won that war and decided to be despicable, Ojukwu could easily have unleashed a "devide and rule" tactic that could pitch these western minorities against the majority Yoruba tribe, which is exactly what the federal government is doing in the south South? Do you expect a seriously honest Yoruba leadership afterwards to turn tail, accept such "political nonsense" and start fighting their neighbors who are so culturally similar to them?

I will repeat this: the idea that because of the painful pro Nigeria shenanigans of the eastern minorities post war, (abandoned property included, my father lost a house, my uncle lost two), the igbo hinterland should refuse them and turn them into some political enemies is by far the most juvenile rant that I have ever come across as it regards the former Eastern Nigeria politics! My stand is simple,: identify those Pro - igbo elements within these groups, try to empower them same way federal Nigeria did, try to help them to positions of power and eventually use them from the position they now occupy to change the narrative! If you can do that all the way to the Bakassi peninsula, I'm with you. We have "surrendered" too much! All these sterile talks about a seperate igboland for a "fuulani created five eastern states" is shortsighted, myopic and extremely dangerous to an emerging nation both in terms of national security and economic prosperity! We are talking nation building here and not boyfriend vs girlfriends squabbles...

You're perfectly correct. This is my position too. You can't let the narrative of your enemies to define your boundaries. You must stand strong to do the job of winning back your brothers especially when some of them are still stretching back their hands of association. This is why I asked him if the writers claims are true or false.

ScamHunter:
He is saying that you cannot force Ikwerre to be Igbo if they decided to deny their roots. They are doing themselves because finally, they have no roots since the Bini have already washed their hands off their case.

That's not what he is saying. No one is forcing Ikwerre to accept there roots either. The writer of the article, Wechie included notable names of Ikwerre men who affirmed their Igbo ancestry all the days of their lives. He equally wrote what historically was the Ikwerre position in Igbo affairs until politics came in to muddle the waters. All these are not lies and will remain so till eternity because they're all on record. Those of us who hesitate to go hard on Ikwerre denials are just doing so because of this history we know and not for anything else like he(Igboid) thinks. The onus lies on the Ikwerre themselves to reconnect or cement their denials as everyone have a choice of association but history cannot be changed. If they insist on the denials, we are not foolish to tow the same part because it surely will be a mockery of anthropology. We will rather state clearly that though they might be an offshoot of us, we don't regard them as one of us any longer and will reject any association with them. I hope the generation of Ikwerres that will suffer the consequences won't hinge any blame on us. History is littered with awkward relationships that beats ones imagination unless one is intimated on what led to it. I see this Igbo/Ikwerre relationship going in that direction unless their elites backtrack from this path of foolishness they're about to go.
No one is begging for association with Ikwerres. Igboland have everything in abundance more than any Ikwerreland can ever get including crude oil. Ikwerre is just 4 lgas and not all of them are oil producing but Igboland have more than 7 oil producing lgas so you can see that it's not about mineral resources. It's just kinship fever at play. I hope they retrace their steps on time before most Igbos give up on them and start to reciprocate the bad vibes they're projecting. It's them that will suffer it most.

Unity is not by force. We don't want war either and we don't want to remain treated like slaves in our land. We want Biafra so those who enjoy Nigeria can remain and build it as they want. Nigeria is not the first country that will divide. Many countries have divided and they've been enjoying peace. We want division so peace will reign. Is that too difficult to understand?

Ficient:
O Lord, let the wickedness of the wicked in Nigeria come to an end in Jesus name. My Father,my Father, change all of them to tortoise overnight or even to lizard

Lmao
Tortoise? This is too much. I kant take it.

If it is war that will bring the division, then war it is. You are not God to tell us that the evil structure is right. Nigeria isn't the first country to divide. Many better managed and stronger countries have disintegrated before because of differences.
Biafra MUST be free by any means possible.

It is not only the media. Majority of us want Nigeria to divide so every can forge the path he wants. Those who want to develop can do so in peace while those who prefer sharia can do so in whips and bombs. We are not one and will never be united. The blood shed is too much already. Divide the country let's go our separate ways.

Moferere:
Illiterate Peoples of Biafra

Douchebag like you. My educational level is beyond your grasp. Now run along with your fellow touts who are easily deceived to act thoughtlessly.

Moferere:
Who dash this one data?

When we tell you to use your head it is simply because if you don't use it, the same bloodsuckers will use it for you. If you allow them to use your natural prejudice, it is you that will suffer it. Of course you know Igbos will defend themselves against anyone who attacks them. So better think very well before you do anything stupid.
As for my data, it is a premium subscription provided by Chukwu Okike Abiama. Do you need some?

owobokiri:
But politics is not played like that bro..
Until they started their genocidal quest, many minorities of the north identified with the fuulani, including the majority Hausas. Many Western groups in the mould of the igboids of the east have been so subsumed to the Yorubas, you wouldn't even know they exist. You know why? Because it's both economically and politically rewarding. These two groups, the Yorubas and the fulanis, gambled with a war and managed to win trillions of dollars in oil and gas resources for their people and supporters.

It wasn't the case in the east. Infact, contrary to the gains of the minorities in the West and North, our bunch of wayward minorities suffered immensely. Adekunle killed many, Murtala finished all males he met at Asaba! They were left bare because of the results of that war and those who insisted to side with the Igbos, were hounded down to death like Obi Wali. It was brutal! We failed as a big brother and that to me is a big fail! Denying their igbo heritage in certain cases became a survival strategy. As disheartening as that is, most took such decisions because they were at the most vulnerable stage in their existence..

While it's obvious that this position has stiffened in some places now, like in ikwerre land, while also taking into cognizance the fact that the ikwerre committed crimes against humanity on the Igbos with the abandoned property saga, is it not better for the igbo to identify those "pro igbo elements" in these zone, and try to wrestle the political machinery of the south south left in the hands of "anti igbo characters" by the fuulani-yoruba combo, and hand over same back to the likes of the pro-east characters like the Obi Walis clan? Isn't that called politics? All these "slam the doors" talk is too emotional for practical politics if you ask me..

I agree with you and this is my position. It is more practical than Igboid's strategy.

Igboid:
The writer is an Amaechi agent.
They are all scammers Working hard for Igbo votes, by counting on weak and emotional mentality of many Igbos towards such issues.

We should be strong enough and slam the door hard and harsh on the face of those Bini tricksters.
Stop falling for their manipulations for crying out loud. They become emergency Igbos when they need Igbo votes or support and revert back to their default Igbophobic settings once they feel they no longer need Igbo votes.
Look at Wike. Not long ago he was claiming to be reincarnation of Ojukwu, just to press the emotional buttons of gullible Igbos, today he is showing his true Ikwerre colors.

If the writer has an issue with his non Igbo tag, he should be writing to Ogbako Ikwerre, and not on social media.
Mind you, his(the writer) principal, Amaechi Rotimi, is a high ranking member of Ogbako Ikwerre, and he has not for one day questioned Ogbakor Ikwerre non Igbo stance on issues.
Cunny man die, cunny man bury am.

Ok. Ogbakor Ikwerre will have to come out and speak on this issue before Amaechi will be taken seriously.
Cunny man die, cunny man bury am.

Taba21:
Mumu calling Fulani your eyes will clear

Lmao. Our eyes don clear long time. Na una turn to have una eyes clear. Fulani strategy don fail long time ago.

Lmao. Fulani agents always yapping trash. All their efforts are crashing and they're so desperate to try any news that they think can distract us. No distraction in our ranks. We dey gidigba no shaking. Make una continue to make noise while boys go continue dey run things. Biafran freedom na guarantee.
God Bless Biafra.

Igboid:
Ikwerre is not Igbo . Ara agabakwana unu o!
Amaechi is looking for who to scam and it's a pity some Igbos are falling for it.

As for Olisa/Olise/Orisa/Orise names.
It doesn't belong to Binis. It's one of those words we share in common when we were members of same group now called YEAII (Yoruba, Edo, Akoko,Igbo,Igala) in the past.
Each of us took the name from that common YEAII language that is now extinct.

The name is used in parts of Imo and Anambra that has nothing to do with Bini and that never had any thing to do with Bini.

Concerning the Ikwerres, your IPOBS should let them be, they are not that important. If they say they don't want to be Igbo, it's their right and choice, let them be for crying out loud.

Ikwerre is not Igbo, any dubious Ikwerre man claiming Igbo is an impostor and it's the duty of bonafide Igbos to disgrace such a person and not shelter them in our gathering. Water and oil should not mix.

Amaechi is Igbo today because he reckons he might need Igbo votes in his future federal positions search. Once that is secured,he stops being Igbo. I don't know why Ndiigbo would deliberately allow ourselves to be pawns in these lots trickery and treachery.

Ike agwubeghi unu? Emelu unu ya eme?

I know what angle you are coming from.
Are you saying the writer of that article is wrong?

Lomprico2:
heavy gunshots around kala police station at mile 4. route to all police station blocked. curfew from 7pm state wide

Hmmm. Ok

Lomprico2:
las Las, we go fight this war.

Rivers state dey hot already

What's happening in Rivers today?

Lmao. See how known fulani handles are swarming the thread believing they can use the same format they used to quash the Endsars to cause confusion again. Will Yorubas fall for the trick again? Only time will tell.
No Biafran is joining any protest in Lagos again. Only Yorubas will do their protest alone. We know our territory and will defend it to the last.
Fulani cowards always can't fight a people who are not divided. They will always look for ways to cause internal strife before attacking. Yorubas must beware of any news playing on their intelligence.

Moferere:
This is not cowardice. This is reality. Ignore that warning at your peril. In Computer Village and Festac alone, think about the number of people that will be victims of reprisals if Ipob attack Lagos.

Why being so gullible? Why will IPOB attack Lagos? What's the gain in it? Why do you guys fall for the fulani tricks? You all saw the DSS bringing in thugs to disrupt the Endsars protest. Do you think those guys care who is killed or what is destroyed? Do don't care about anyone or any other thing as long as their cashcow Nigeria remains, they are fine. They can slaughter 50million people just to keep the status quo. This news is directed at creating chaos are you guys are falling for them.

Philipponzaghi:
Where do you see him kill for religion?

And trying to speak for Muslim rights is not religious bigotry. Try to Google the meaning of bigotry or killing.

I’ve not heard where MURIC said church must not open or where he instruct Muslims to kill Christians for Allah.

I know you’re IPOB, so I’m not surprised with your thinking.

I'm proudly IPOB.
Just one question for you. Do you trust MURIC and Prof. Ishaq Akintola to stand for Yoruba interest against any external enemy?

Ok. Over to the usual haters who claim Igbos are forcing themselves on Ikwerre. Many of such demented people don't even have a single cultural or anthropological reason for being against the Igbo/Ikwerre connection save for sheer prejudice and hatred. If you ask them to show you the boundary of Ikwerre territory, they'll run away because they don't know. All what they want to believe is that Igbos must be wrong in their claim on Ikwerres. Such a set of shameless people.
I'm not from Rivers and previously was totally ignorant of Ikwerre existence until I began my sojourn. It was thereafter I took interest in understanding the Igbo/Ikwerre relationship.
Ikwerres are the dominant group in the PH metropolitan area with the Kalabaris and Okrikas occupying mostly the waterside and tiny islands that dot the area south of PH city. On the whole of Eastern PH city are the Ogonis to the NE and East proper to the Andonis to the SE. Other the SW of the metropolis are the Kalabaris. To the north of the metropolis are the three other Igbo groups namely Ikwerre, Etche and Asa/Ndoki. These are the ones that have boundaries with Imo and Abia states. If you go around all those areas you won't even know which state that you are because the language, culture and style of doing things are the same. The level of mutual intelligibility begins to diminish as you go down towards the coast but there's no time the level of intelligibility is out of tune to suggest that part were not Igbos. This situation was so far back in the days but today, the level of intelligibility has really improved just as it has in the interior parts of SE.
From the foregoing, one can see that though Ikwerres share boundary with both the Ogonis and Kalabaris and Okrikas(Ijaws), the there's no language similarity with them. The level of shared culture is very minute and not even do they share names. To the far West and NW of the Ikwerre area are the Orashis comprising another Igbo and Igboid groups. The Igbo groups are the Egbemas, Ogbas and Ndoni while the Ekpeyes are the only ones I consider an Igboid group. I group all of them as Orashis because of the Orashi river that flows through that area.
Back to the Ikwerres. There's no single anthropological or cultural link between them and Benin. Not the language, not the culture, not the food, not the names, not even deities so how come the claims of Ikwerre originating from Benin? Any group that claims having Benin origin or to have at one time had something to do with Benin has a common denominator which is the use of the word 'Osa' or 'Ose' or 'Olisa' or 'Orisa' in reference to God. The same is applicable to Yorubas who use the word 'Osa' or 'Orisa' in reference to God. For our Anioma brothers, the common usage of names like Osakwe, Oliseh, Olisa etc proves the contact they had with Benin. The Yorubas who use names like Osarinde, Osayomi, Osewa etc proves the contact they had with Benin. No Oyo or Kwara person bears such names. The same can be said of our Ikwerre brothers. They have no single connection with Benin so these new drive for claiming Benin origin is just a mockery of history to every true anthropologists.
I'll conclude by saying that any group of persons can decide whatever political decisions they want for their people but they mustn't tamper with history because it will surely come back to hunt them.
NB: Chibuike Amaechi's place 'Ubima' is just 10km from the boundary with Imo state and they use 'umu' like other Igbos in the SE for reffering to descendants or children as the case may be. When he claimed he has Igbo ancestry, as much as we could view it as a political strategy to curry acceptance from the SE, he is saying the truth. Even Wike the blood sucker knows in his heart where his ancestry comes from but for the sake of politics, he blatantly denies it.
Ubochi nta ka anyi chuo na owerre nchi.

Philipponzaghi:
This is Yorubaland, we don’t do religious bigotry or kill for Allah here.

Ok. What about Prof. Akintola of MURIC?

Praying for Adeboye while supporting the killings of Christians. I've never seen such paradox.

Olatomiwami:
Y SE/SS?am yet to see we SS/SE, must u b doing attache by force? B proud of your 5 region, turn it to Japan and shame everybody, una no deh shame.

Biafran includes major part of the SE and SS so my usage of SE/SS is correct. However, we have said that these areas are subject to a referendum. Those who don't want Biafra 0 remain in Nigeria or chart their own course. We are in a civilized world and force won't be used to keep a people in a country.